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* In "Gigantomachia" is shown that the Coma Berenices Cloth, kept inside Mount Etna, [[spoiler:[[SealedEvilInACan acts as a seal for Typhon's soul]]]] and Mei removing it to become a Saint resulted in [[spoiler:[[DemonicPossession being possessed by Typhon]]]]. The trainer for the Coma Berenices Cloth is Deathmask, whose power set includes manipulating souls, meaning that he was placed there specifically so [[spoiler:he could contain Typhon when the Cloth was removed]]... But Mei went and did the job unsupervised.

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* In "Gigantomachia" is shown that the Coma Berenices Cloth, kept inside Mount Etna, [[spoiler:[[SealedEvilInACan acts as a seal for Typhon's soul]]]] and Mei removing it to become a Saint resulted in [[spoiler:[[DemonicPossession being possessed by Typhon]]]]. The trainer for the Coma Berenices Cloth is Deathmask, whose power set includes manipulating souls, meaning that he was placed there specifically so [[spoiler:he could contain Typhon when the Cloth was removed]]... But Mei went and did took his Cloth unsupervised.
** Shaka could have also done
the job unsupervised.job, as he can manipulate evil spirits and is far stronger than Deathmask... But the area near Mount Etna is inhabited and what is ''really'' inside is to be kept secret, so Deathmask who is Italian and anyway more normal looking, was placed there.
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* Italian dub only: many Saints have been renamed after their constellation-that can serve as another name for them. Actually hinted at by Deathmask, who in his mission to kill Dohko, first calls him by his assumed name of "Old Master of Goro-oh", as he had been known until then, before asking if he should call him by his real name and calling him by his title as the Libra Gold Saint.

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* Italian dub only: many Saints have been renamed after their constellation-that can serve as another name for them. Actually hinted at by Deathmask, who in his mission to kill Dohko, first calls him by his assumed name of "Old Master of Goro-oh", as he had been known until then, before asking if he should call him by his real name and calling him by his title as the Libra Gold Saint.Saint.
* In "Gigantomachia" is shown that the Coma Berenices Cloth, kept inside Mount Etna, [[spoiler:[[SealedEvilInACan acts as a seal for Typhon's soul]]]] and Mei removing it to become a Saint resulted in [[spoiler:[[DemonicPossession being possessed by Typhon]]]]. The trainer for the Coma Berenices Cloth is Deathmask, whose power set includes manipulating souls, meaning that he was placed there specifically so [[spoiler:he could contain Typhon when the Cloth was removed]]... But Mei went and did the job unsupervised.
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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Japanese police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.

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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Japanese Greek police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.
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** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Specter Punch bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).

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** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Specter Punch Demon Illusion Fist bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that the Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).



** Every single Gold Saint has attacks that ''will'' hit any enemy, even bypassing the defenses of supposedly invulnerable enemies like Siegfried (Aldebaran has an unnamed technique that [[YourHeadAsplode makes you explode from the inside]] [[YouAreAlreadyDead after a while]], Saga can brainwash them, Deathmask can send their souls to hell, Aeolia as of ''Manga/SaintSeiyaEpisodeG'' has attacks that enters the victim's body before affecting them, Shaka can do [[NightmareFuel his thing]], Dohko has homing attacks and weapons that are just too powerful to be stopped, Milo's Scarlet Needle can bypass defenses, Aeolus had his arrow that's even more powerful than Libra's weapons, Shura's arms can cut ''anything'', Camus can kill them with cold, Aphrodite has [[DeadlyGas the pollen of his roses]], and Mu and Shion have techniques that outright ''disintegrate'' the enemy). Some other enemies have an ArmorPiercingAttack, but the Gold Saints are the only group where ''everyone'' has at least one.

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** Every single Gold Saint has attacks that ''will'' hit any enemy, even bypassing the defenses of supposedly invulnerable enemies like Siegfried (Aldebaran has an unnamed technique that [[YourHeadAsplode makes you explode from the inside]] [[YouAreAlreadyDead after a while]], Saga can brainwash them, them or trap them in a maze of illusions or even in another freaking dimension, Deathmask can send their souls to hell, Aeolia as of ''Manga/SaintSeiyaEpisodeG'' has attacks that enters the victim's body before affecting them, Shaka can do [[NightmareFuel his thing]], Dohko has homing attacks and weapons that are just too powerful to be stopped, Milo's Scarlet Needle can bypass defenses, Aeolus had his arrow that's even more powerful than Libra's weapons, Shura's arms can cut ''anything'', Camus can kill them with cold, Aphrodite has [[DeadlyGas the pollen of his roses]], and Mu and Shion have techniques that outright ''disintegrate'' the enemy). Some other enemies have an ArmorPiercingAttack, but the Gold Saints are the only group where ''everyone'' has at least one.
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* People like Cancer Death Mask and Pisces Aphrodite seem out of place in the army of the goddess defending Earth from other gods. But think about it: Athena is the Goddess of ''War'', with War intended as ''fighting smart'' (as opposed to Ares who is the God of War as in ''violence and bloodshed''), and who are the Saints who fight the smartest and dirtiest, using respectively fear, the opponents' own emotions and the ability to ''teleport their soul directly to hell'' and the other using ''DeadlyGas''?

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* People like Cancer Death Mask Deathmask and Pisces Aphrodite seem out of place in the army of the goddess defending Earth from other gods. But think about it: Athena is the Goddess of ''War'', with War intended as ''fighting smart'' (as opposed to Ares who is the God of War as in ''violence and bloodshed''), and who are the Saints who fight the smartest and dirtiest, using respectively fear, the opponents' own emotions and the ability to ''teleport their soul directly to hell'' and the other using ''DeadlyGas''?



* Ophiucus Shaina is considered the strongest female Saint, and one of the strongest Silver Saints overall. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_%28astrology%29 Her constellation is sometimes considered the thirteen sign of the Zodiac]]. Well played, Kurumada.

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* Ophiucus Ophiuchus Shaina is considered the strongest female Saint, and one of the strongest Silver Saints overall. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_%28astrology%29 Her constellation is sometimes considered the thirteen sign of the Zodiac]]. Well played, Kurumada.



* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Greek police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.

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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Greek Japanese police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.



** In the manga the first assassin is Hyoga, and was chosen for four reasons: as the apprentice of a Gold Saint he was automatically considered trustworthy until proven otherwise, even if he was an unproven rookie; at first he had ''not'' answered the Graude Fondation's call for the Galaxian Wars, so he had already proven his trustworthiness in a small way; as he was supposed to take part in the Galaxian Wars, his targets had no reason to suspect he was there to kill them all (and they're actually caught completely by surprise when he flatly admits why he came there after the Silver Saints started targeting him too); thanks to [[AnIcePerson his mastery over cold]] his attacks could easily shatter a Bronze Cloth, no matter what its special abilities are, thus completely negating the toughness of Shiryu's shield and the defensive abilities of Shun's chain.
** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).

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** In the manga the first assassin is Hyoga, and was chosen for four reasons: as the apprentice of a Gold Saint he was automatically considered trustworthy until proven otherwise, even if he was an unproven rookie; at first he had ''not'' answered the Graude Fondation's Graad Foundation's call for the Galaxian Wars, so he had already proven his trustworthiness in a small way; as he was supposed to take part in the Galaxian Wars, his targets had no reason to suspect he was there to kill them all (and they're actually caught completely by surprise when he flatly admits why he came there after the Silver Saints started targeting him too); thanks to [[AnIcePerson his mastery over cold]] his attacks could easily shatter a Bronze Cloth, no matter what its special abilities are, thus completely negating the toughness of Shiryu's shield and the defensive abilities of Shun's chain.
** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken Specter Punch bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).



** Every single Gold Saint has attacks that ''will'' hit any enemy, even bypassing the defenses of supposedly invulnerable enemies like Siegfried (Aldebaran has an unnamed technique that [[YourHeadAsplode makes you explode from the inside]] [[YouAreAlreadyDead after a while]], Saga can brainwash them, Deathmask can send their souls to hell, Aiolia as of ''Manga/SaintSeiyaEpisodeG'' has attacks that enters the victim's body before affecting them, Shaka can do [[NightmareFuel his thing]], Dohko has homing attacks and weapons that are just too powerful to be stopped, Milo's Scarlet Needle can bypass defenses, Aiolos had his arrow that's even more powerful than Libra's weapons, Shura's arms can cut ''anything'', Camus can kill them with cold, Aphrodite has [[DeadlyGas the pollen of his roses]], and Mu and Shion have techniques that outright ''disintegrate'' the enemy). Some other enemies have an ArmorPiercingAttack, but the Gold Saints are the only group where ''everyone'' has at least one.

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** Every single Gold Saint has attacks that ''will'' hit any enemy, even bypassing the defenses of supposedly invulnerable enemies like Siegfried (Aldebaran has an unnamed technique that [[YourHeadAsplode makes you explode from the inside]] [[YouAreAlreadyDead after a while]], Saga can brainwash them, Deathmask can send their souls to hell, Aiolia Aeolia as of ''Manga/SaintSeiyaEpisodeG'' has attacks that enters the victim's body before affecting them, Shaka can do [[NightmareFuel his thing]], Dohko has homing attacks and weapons that are just too powerful to be stopped, Milo's Scarlet Needle can bypass defenses, Aiolos Aeolus had his arrow that's even more powerful than Libra's weapons, Shura's arms can cut ''anything'', Camus can kill them with cold, Aphrodite has [[DeadlyGas the pollen of his roses]], and Mu and Shion have techniques that outright ''disintegrate'' the enemy). Some other enemies have an ArmorPiercingAttack, but the Gold Saints are the only group where ''everyone'' has at least one.
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** One in-universe explanation if Saga impersonates Shion, is that he likely doesn't want to risk blowing up his cover.
** Also, helping matters is that Mu explicitly agrees to repairing the Cloths of whoever manages to come to him. He merely refuses to answer summons to the Sanctuary.

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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Japanese police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.

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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Japanese Greek police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.



* Sanctuary is strangely lax with Mu's silent rebellion, especially considering he's the clothsmith and is in possession of the Caelum Cloth, whose tools allow to repair other Cloths. But there's also ''another'' Cloth with the same characteristics, the Sculptor Cloth. Maybe there's another clothsmith, possibly the Sculptor Saint, who is loyal to Sanctuary, making Mu's rebellion tolerable as long as he doesn't actually take up arms against Sanctuary.

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* Sanctuary is strangely lax with Mu's silent rebellion, especially considering he's the clothsmith Clothsmith and is in possession of the Caelum Cloth, whose tools allow to repair other Cloths. But there's also ''another'' Cloth with the same characteristics, the Sculptor Cloth. Maybe there's another clothsmith, Clothsmith, possibly the Sculptor Saint, who is loyal to Sanctuary, making Mu's rebellion tolerable as long as he doesn't actually take up arms against Sanctuary.



** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificiable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).

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** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificiable sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).
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* Hades goes down pretty quickly after being attacked by both Seiya and Saori. In Greek myth, a god could be killed only if he was wounded by a mortal and then finished off by a god, or wounded by a god and finished off by a mortal, as shown by the Titans' inability to kill Uranus (who they scared of) or their non-Titan sibling gods (that they imprisoned), the Olympians' inability to kill the Titans (that they imprisoned), and the death of the Giants when Herakles (a demigod but still a mortal) was summoned by Zeus and Athena to wound them with his arrows.
* Sanctuary is strangely lax with Mu's silent rebellion, especially considering he's the clothsmith and is in possession of the Caelum Cloth, whose tools allow to repair other Cloths. But there's also ''another'' Cloth with the same characteristics, the Sculptor Cloth. There's another clothsmith, possibly the Sculptor Saint, who is loyal to Sanctuary, making Mu's rebellion tolerable as long as he doesn't actually take up arms against Sanctuary.

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* Hades goes down pretty quickly after being attacked by both Seiya and Saori. In Greek myth, a god could be killed only if he was wounded by a mortal and then finished off by a god, or wounded by a god and finished off by a mortal, as shown by the Titans' inability to kill Uranus (who they scared of) off) or their non-Titan sibling gods (that they imprisoned), the Olympians' inability to kill the Titans (that they imprisoned), and the death of the Giants when Herakles (a demigod but still a mortal) was summoned by Zeus and Athena to wound them with his arrows.
* Sanctuary is strangely lax with Mu's silent rebellion, especially considering he's the clothsmith and is in possession of the Caelum Cloth, whose tools allow to repair other Cloths. But there's also ''another'' Cloth with the same characteristics, the Sculptor Cloth. There's Maybe there's another clothsmith, possibly the Sculptor Saint, who is loyal to Sanctuary, making Mu's rebellion tolerable as long as he doesn't actually take up arms against Sanctuary.



** In the manga the first assassin is Hyoga, and was chosen for four reasons: as the apprentice of a Gold Saint he was automatically considred trustworthy until proven otherwise, even if he was an unproven rookie; at first he had ''not'' answered the Graude Fondation's call for the Galaxian Wars, so he had already proven his trustworthiness in a small way; as he was supposed to take part in the Galaxian Wars, his targets had no reason to suspect he was there to kill them all (and they're actually caught completely by surprise when he flatly admits why he came there after the Silver Saints started targeting him too); thanks to [[AnIcePerson his mastery over cold]] his attacks could easily shatter a Bronze Cloth, no matter what his special abilities are, thus completely negating the toughness of Shiryuu's shield and the defensive abilities of Shun's chain.
** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryuu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).
* When one thinks about it, Poseidon in the modern times had no hostility toward Athena, and was acting in what he thought was self-defense against his bloodthirsty niece: when Kanon awakened him he was planning to go back to sleep until he was told that Athena was gearing up for war, he was still mostly asleep during most of his arc, with Julian executing what was ''Kanon''[='=]s plan, and when he woke up he saw that [[OhCrap Athena's Saints had invaded his realm, brought down most of the pillars]], and ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu wounded him]]'', and tried to stop them from completely demolishing his home. Only ''after'' being sealed again he realized what had just happened.

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** In the manga the first assassin is Hyoga, and was chosen for four reasons: as the apprentice of a Gold Saint he was automatically considred considered trustworthy until proven otherwise, even if he was an unproven rookie; at first he had ''not'' answered the Graude Fondation's call for the Galaxian Wars, so he had already proven his trustworthiness in a small way; as he was supposed to take part in the Galaxian Wars, his targets had no reason to suspect he was there to kill them all (and they're actually caught completely by surprise when he flatly admits why he came there after the Silver Saints started targeting him too); thanks to [[AnIcePerson his mastery over cold]] his attacks could easily shatter a Bronze Cloth, no matter what his its special abilities are, thus completely negating the toughness of Shiryuu's Shiryu's shield and the defensive abilities of Shun's chain.
** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryuu's Shiryu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable sacrificiable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).
* When one thinks about it, Poseidon in the modern times had no hostility toward Athena, and was acting in what he thought was self-defense against his bloodthirsty niece: when Kanon awakened him he was planning to go back to sleep until he was told that Athena was gearing up for war, he was still mostly asleep during most of his arc, with Julian executing what was ''Kanon''[='=]s plan, and when he woke up he saw that [[OhCrap Athena's Saints had invaded his realm, brought down most of the pillars]], and ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu wounded him]]'', and tried to stop them from completely demolishing his home. Only ''after'' being sealed again did he realized realize what had just happened.



** Every single Gold Saint has attacks that ''will'' hit any enemy, even bypassing the defenses of supposedly invulnerable enemies like Siegfried (Aldebaran has an unnamed technique that [[YourHeadAsplode makes you explode from the inside]] [[YouAreAlreadyDead after a while]], Saga can brainwash them, Deathmask can send their souls to hell, Aiolia as of ''Manga/SaintSeiyaEpisodeG'' has attacks that enters the victim's body before affecting them, Shaka can do [[NightmareFuel his thing]], Dohko has homing attacks and weapons that are just too powerful to be stopped, Milo's Scarlet Needle can bypass defenses, Aiolos had his arrow that's even more powerful than Libra's weapons, Shura's arms can cut ''anything'', Camus can kill them with cold, Aphrodite has [[DeadlyGas the pollen of his roses]], and Mu and Shion have techniques that outright ''disintegrate'' the enemy). Some other enemy has an ArmorPiercingAttack, but the Gold Saints are the only group where ''everyone'' has at least one.

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** Every single Gold Saint has attacks that ''will'' hit any enemy, even bypassing the defenses of supposedly invulnerable enemies like Siegfried (Aldebaran has an unnamed technique that [[YourHeadAsplode makes you explode from the inside]] [[YouAreAlreadyDead after a while]], Saga can brainwash them, Deathmask can send their souls to hell, Aiolia as of ''Manga/SaintSeiyaEpisodeG'' has attacks that enters the victim's body before affecting them, Shaka can do [[NightmareFuel his thing]], Dohko has homing attacks and weapons that are just too powerful to be stopped, Milo's Scarlet Needle can bypass defenses, Aiolos had his arrow that's even more powerful than Libra's weapons, Shura's arms can cut ''anything'', Camus can kill them with cold, Aphrodite has [[DeadlyGas the pollen of his roses]], and Mu and Shion have techniques that outright ''disintegrate'' the enemy). Some other enemy has enemies have an ArmorPiercingAttack, but the Gold Saints are the only group where ''everyone'' has at least one.



* Misty's pride in his looks, his general arrogance, and the infamous naked scene make perfect sense when one takes into account that, to Ancient Greeks, [[BeautyEqualsGoodness physical beauty is an objective thing and often a sign of divine favor]]: he's fully convinced to have Athena's favor, and ''will'' flaunt it.

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* Misty's pride in his looks, his general arrogance, and the infamous naked scene make perfect sense when one takes into account that, to Ancient Greeks, [[BeautyEqualsGoodness physical beauty is an objective thing and often a sign of divine favor]]: he's fully convinced to have he has Athena's favor, and ''will'' flaunt it.



* Italian dub only: many Saints have been renamed after their constellation-that can serve as another name for them. Actually hinted at by Deathmask, who in his mission to kill Dohko, first calls him by his assumed name of "Old Master of Goro-oh", had he had been known until then, before asking if he should call him by his real name and recites his title as the Libra Gold Saint.

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* Italian dub only: many Saints have been renamed after their constellation-that can serve as another name for them. Actually hinted at by Deathmask, who in his mission to kill Dohko, first calls him by his assumed name of "Old Master of Goro-oh", had as he had been known until then, before asking if he should call him by his real name and recites calling him by his title as the Libra Gold Saint.
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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Greek police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.

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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Greek Japanese police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.
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* Why did Marin not make immediately clear to Seiya she's ''not'' his older sister? Because, knowing that a Saint's training take years and that Seiya had been separated from Seika for months, she thought he had realized it wasn't true.

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* Why did Marin not make immediately clear to Seiya she's ''not'' his older sister? Because, knowing that a Saint's training take years and that Seiya had been separated from Seika for months, she thought he had realized it wasn't true.true.
* Italian dub only: many Saints have been renamed after their constellation-that can serve as another name for them. Actually hinted at by Deathmask, who in his mission to kill Dohko, first calls him by his assumed name of "Old Master of Goro-oh", had he had been known until then, before asking if he should call him by his real name and recites his title as the Libra Gold Saint.
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* Misty's pride in his looks, his general arrogance, and the infamous naked scene make perfect sense when one takes into account that, to Ancient Greeks, [[BeautyEqualsGoodness physical beauty is an objective thing and often a sign of divine favor]]: he's fully convinced to have Athena's favor, and ''will'' flaunt it.

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* Misty's pride in his looks, his general arrogance, and the infamous naked scene make perfect sense when one takes into account that, to Ancient Greeks, [[BeautyEqualsGoodness physical beauty is an objective thing and often a sign of divine favor]]: he's fully convinced to have Athena's favor, and ''will'' flaunt it.it.
* Why did Marin not make immediately clear to Seiya she's ''not'' his older sister? Because, knowing that a Saint's training take years and that Seiya had been separated from Seika for months, she thought he had realized it wasn't true.
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* Eris' pride in his looks, his general arrogance, and the infamous naked scene make perfect sense when one takes into account that, to Ancient Greeks, [[BeautyEqualsGoodness physical beauty is an objective thing and often a sign of divine favor]]: he's fully convinced to have Athena's favor, and ''will'' flaunt it.

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* Eris' Misty's pride in his looks, his general arrogance, and the infamous naked scene make perfect sense when one takes into account that, to Ancient Greeks, [[BeautyEqualsGoodness physical beauty is an objective thing and often a sign of divine favor]]: he's fully convinced to have Athena's favor, and ''will'' flaunt it.
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* After Mu first repaired it, Seiya says that (as far he knew) the Pegasus Cloth is tougher than it had ever been before, even if he got it in prime condition. It had also been repaired with the blood of someone whose Cosmo is on par with that of the Silver Saints: as would later happen when the Cloths were repaired with the Gold Saints' blood his Cloth had indeed become tougher, even close to a Silver Cloth when he burns his Cosmo high enough, but nobody noticed because Bronze and Silver Cloths are multicolored.

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* After Mu first repaired it, Seiya says that (as far he knew) the Pegasus Cloth is tougher than it had ever been before, even if he got it in prime condition. It had also been repaired with the blood of someone whose Cosmo is on par with that of the Silver Saints: as would later happen when the Cloths were repaired with the Gold Saints' blood his Cloth had indeed become tougher, even close to a Silver Cloth when he burns his Cosmo high enough, but nobody noticed because Bronze and Silver Cloths are multicolored.multicolored.
* Eris' pride in his looks, his general arrogance, and the infamous naked scene make perfect sense when one takes into account that, to Ancient Greeks, [[BeautyEqualsGoodness physical beauty is an objective thing and often a sign of divine favor]]: he's fully convinced to have Athena's favor, and ''will'' flaunt it.
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** Also, [[ShownTheirWork the people responsible for the dub had evidently read the manga in advance]].

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* After Mu first repaired it, Seiya says that (as far he knew) the Pegasus Cloth is tougher than it had ever been before, even if he got it in prime condition. It had also been repaired with the blood of someone whose Cosmo is on par with that of the Silver Saints: as would later happen when the Cloths were repaired with the Gold Saints' blood his Cloth had indeed become tougher, even close to a Silver Cloth when he burns his Cosmo high enough, but nobody noticed because Bronze and Silver Cloths are multicolored.
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** Only Gold Saints can use [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Athena Exclamation]].

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** Only Gold Saints can use [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Athena Exclamation]].Exclamation]].
* Italian dub-only: Seiya can quote [[Literature/TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]] in spite of being an IdiotHero and generally [[BookDumb not too knowledgeable of literature]]... But Hades' realm is ''identical'' to Dante's description of Hell. He was being taught in preparation for an assault on Hades itself.
** Also, [[ShownTheirWork the people responsible for the dub had evidently read the manga in advance]].

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* When one thinks about it, Poseidon in the modern times had no hostility toward Athena, and was acting in what he thought was self-defense against his bloodthirsty niece: when Kanon awakened him he was planning to go back to sleep until he was told that Athena was gearing up for war, he was still mostly asleep during most of his arc, with Julian executing what was ''Kanon''[='=]s plan, and when he woke up he saw that [[OhCrap Athena's Saints had invaded his realm, brought down most of the pillars]], and ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu wounded him]]'', and tried to stop them from completely demolishing his home. Only ''after'' being sealed again he realized what had just happened.

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* When one thinks about it, Poseidon in the modern times had no hostility toward Athena, and was acting in what he thought was self-defense against his bloodthirsty niece: when Kanon awakened him he was planning to go back to sleep until he was told that Athena was gearing up for war, he was still mostly asleep during most of his arc, with Julian executing what was ''Kanon''[='=]s plan, and when he woke up he saw that [[OhCrap Athena's Saints had invaded his realm, brought down most of the pillars]], and ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu wounded him]]'', and tried to stop them from completely demolishing his home. Only ''after'' being sealed again he realized what had just happened.happened.
* The Gold Saint's fame as the strongest warriors of all seems exaggerated, as some warriors can actually match or even defeat them... But there's two very good reasons:
** Every single Gold Saint has attacks that ''will'' hit any enemy, even bypassing the defenses of supposedly invulnerable enemies like Siegfried (Aldebaran has an unnamed technique that [[YourHeadAsplode makes you explode from the inside]] [[YouAreAlreadyDead after a while]], Saga can brainwash them, Deathmask can send their souls to hell, Aiolia as of ''Manga/SaintSeiyaEpisodeG'' has attacks that enters the victim's body before affecting them, Shaka can do [[NightmareFuel his thing]], Dohko has homing attacks and weapons that are just too powerful to be stopped, Milo's Scarlet Needle can bypass defenses, Aiolos had his arrow that's even more powerful than Libra's weapons, Shura's arms can cut ''anything'', Camus can kill them with cold, Aphrodite has [[DeadlyGas the pollen of his roses]], and Mu and Shion have techniques that outright ''disintegrate'' the enemy). Some other enemy has an ArmorPiercingAttack, but the Gold Saints are the only group where ''everyone'' has at least one.
** Only Gold Saints can use [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Athena Exclamation]].
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** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryuu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).

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** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryuu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).process).
* When one thinks about it, Poseidon in the modern times had no hostility toward Athena, and was acting in what he thought was self-defense against his bloodthirsty niece: when Kanon awakened him he was planning to go back to sleep until he was told that Athena was gearing up for war, he was still mostly asleep during most of his arc, with Julian executing what was ''Kanon''[='=]s plan, and when he woke up he saw that [[OhCrap Athena's Saints had invaded his realm, brought down most of the pillars]], and ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu wounded him]]'', and tried to stop them from completely demolishing his home. Only ''after'' being sealed again he realized what had just happened.

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* Sanctuary is strangely lax with Mu's silent rebellion, especially considering he's the clothsmith and is in possession of the Caelum Cloth, whose tools allow to repair other Cloths. But there's also ''another'' Cloth with the same characteristics, the Sculptor Cloth. There's another clothsmith, possibly the Sculptor Saint, who is loyal to Sanctuary, making Mu's rebellion tolerable as long as he doesn't actually take up arms against Sanctuary.

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* Sanctuary is strangely lax with Mu's silent rebellion, especially considering he's the clothsmith and is in possession of the Caelum Cloth, whose tools allow to repair other Cloths. But there's also ''another'' Cloth with the same characteristics, the Sculptor Cloth. There's another clothsmith, possibly the Sculptor Saint, who is loyal to Sanctuary, making Mu's rebellion tolerable as long as he doesn't actually take up arms against Sanctuary.Sanctuary.
* The first assassin sent by Sanctuary in both manga and anime was actually chosen ''very'' carefully:
** In the manga the first assassin is Hyoga, and was chosen for four reasons: as the apprentice of a Gold Saint he was automatically considred trustworthy until proven otherwise, even if he was an unproven rookie; at first he had ''not'' answered the Graude Fondation's call for the Galaxian Wars, so he had already proven his trustworthiness in a small way; as he was supposed to take part in the Galaxian Wars, his targets had no reason to suspect he was there to kill them all (and they're actually caught completely by surprise when he flatly admits why he came there after the Silver Saints started targeting him too); thanks to [[AnIcePerson his mastery over cold]] his attacks could easily shatter a Bronze Cloth, no matter what his special abilities are, thus completely negating the toughness of Shiryuu's shield and the defensive abilities of Shun's chain.
** In the anime the first assassin is Ikki, and was chosen for three reasons: like Hyoga, he's supposed to be there, so his targets would have not suspected anything had he not decided to steal the Sagittarius Cloth and declare he was there to kill them all; being a mental attack, the Phoenix Genmaken bypasses the physical defenses of a Cloth, also solving the issue of Shiryuu's shield and Shun's chain; if things went wrong, he had a ''completely sacrificable army'' in the form of the Black Saints (renegades that Sanctuary would kill in a heartbeat if they just were worth the effort, so if they were actually exterminated it would have been a boon as long as they recovered the Gold Cloth in the process).

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* Ophiucus Shaina is considered the strongest female Saint, and one of the strongest Silver Saints overall. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_%28astrology%29 Her constellation is sometimes considered the thirteen sign of the Zodiac]]. Well played, Kurumada. Oh, and Manga/SaintSeiyaNextDimension confirmed that Ophiuchus was indeed the 13th Gold.
* Shaina and Marin's Cloths are infamous for [[ChainmailBikini covering very little]], especially when compared to later female cloths. In the manga, all Cloths get better coverage whenever they're repaired (or, in the Phoenix's case, regenerate after being disintegrated). Those two Cloths have ''never'' needed being repaired.

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* Ophiucus Shaina is considered the strongest female Saint, and one of the strongest Silver Saints overall. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_%28astrology%29 Her constellation is sometimes considered the thirteen sign of the Zodiac]]. Well played, Kurumada. Oh, Kurumada.
** Confirmed
and Manga/SaintSeiyaNextDimension confirmed that Ophiuchus was indeed more with ''Manga/SaintSeiyaNextDimension'': [[spoiler:Ophiuchus started out as the 13th Gold.
''13th Gold Cloth'']].
* Shaina and Marin's Cloths are infamous for [[ChainmailBikini covering very little]], especially when compared to later female cloths. In the manga, all Cloths get better coverage whenever they're repaired (or, in the Phoenix's case, regenerate after being disintegrated). Those two Cloths have ''never'' needed being repaired.repaired, especially Ophiucus, as ''Manga/SaintSeiyaNextDimension'' shows that [[spoiler:it used to be a Gold Cloth and only became a Silver one, with its current form, after the previous Holy War]].



* Hades goes down pretty quickly after being attacked by both Seiya and Saori. In Greek myth, a god could be killed only if he was wounded by a mortal and then finished off by a god, or wounded by a god and finished off by a mortal, as shown by the Titans' inability to kill Uranus (who they scared of) or their non-Titan sibling gods (that they imprisoned), the Olympians' inability to kill the Titans (that they imprisoned), and the death of the Giants when Herakles (a demigod but still a mortal) was summoned by Zeus and Athena to wound them with his arrows.

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* Hades goes down pretty quickly after being attacked by both Seiya and Saori. In Greek myth, a god could be killed only if he was wounded by a mortal and then finished off by a god, or wounded by a god and finished off by a mortal, as shown by the Titans' inability to kill Uranus (who they scared of) or their non-Titan sibling gods (that they imprisoned), the Olympians' inability to kill the Titans (that they imprisoned), and the death of the Giants when Herakles (a demigod but still a mortal) was summoned by Zeus and Athena to wound them with his arrows.arrows.
* Sanctuary is strangely lax with Mu's silent rebellion, especially considering he's the clothsmith and is in possession of the Caelum Cloth, whose tools allow to repair other Cloths. But there's also ''another'' Cloth with the same characteristics, the Sculptor Cloth. There's another clothsmith, possibly the Sculptor Saint, who is loyal to Sanctuary, making Mu's rebellion tolerable as long as he doesn't actually take up arms against Sanctuary.

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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Greek police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers.

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* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Bronze Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Greek police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons, weapons that could have actually hit and wounded him, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers.revolvers that would have been too scared to hit him.
* Hades goes down pretty quickly after being attacked by both Seiya and Saori. In Greek myth, a god could be killed only if he was wounded by a mortal and then finished off by a god, or wounded by a god and finished off by a mortal, as shown by the Titans' inability to kill Uranus (who they scared of) or their non-Titan sibling gods (that they imprisoned), the Olympians' inability to kill the Titans (that they imprisoned), and the death of the Giants when Herakles (a demigod but still a mortal) was summoned by Zeus and Athena to wound them with his arrows.
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* Shaina and Marin's Cloths are infamous for [[ChainmailBikini covering very little]], especially when compared to later female cloths. In the manga, all Cloths get better coverage whenever they're repaired (or, in the Phoenix's case, regenerate after being disintegrated). Those two Cloths have ''never'' needed being repaired.

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* Shaina and Marin's Cloths are infamous for [[ChainmailBikini covering very little]], especially when compared to later female cloths. In the manga, all Cloths get better coverage whenever they're repaired (or, in the Phoenix's case, regenerate after being disintegrated). Those two Cloths have ''never'' needed being repaired.repaired.
* There's actually a very good reason behind Docrates' [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere escape from the police]]: the anime indicates that firearms can actually hurt Saints (as shown when a {{Mook}} in a later episode shot at Seiya and he bothered to dodge), and the Greek police is heavily armed (their equipment includes even machine guns). He was expecting to face both four weakened Saints Saints and a small army with heavy weapons, not four weakened Saints and a force of policemen with revolvers.
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* Ophiucus Shaina is considered the strongest female Saint, and one of the strongest Silver Saints overall. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_%28astrology%29 Her constellation is sometimes considered the thirteen sign of the Zodiac]]. Well played, Kurumada.

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* Ophiucus Shaina is considered the strongest female Saint, and one of the strongest Silver Saints overall. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_%28astrology%29 Her constellation is sometimes considered the thirteen sign of the Zodiac]]. Well played, Kurumada. Oh, and Manga/SaintSeiyaNextDimension confirmed that Ophiuchus was indeed the 13th Gold.
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* In the anime Shaina is among those people who see the Cloths who wish to exclude non-Greeks from being Saints. Thing is, she's Italian. Hypocrisy? No, for three reasons: first, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonies_in_antiquity#Greek_colonies the ancient Greeks spread around the Mediterranean Sea]], and she may well be from one of the parts of Italy where Greek colonists settled; second, Italians are traditionally considered descendants of the ancient Romans (plus a few dozens other populations, but that doesn't matter here), who claimed descendance from the ''Greeks'' of ancient Troy; third and final, after taking over Greece the ancient Romans adopted a version of Greek culture and spread it through their empire, thus, technically, anyone from ''any'' region of the Roman empire could be counted as 'Greek'.

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* In the anime Shaina is among those people who see the Cloths who wish to exclude non-Greeks from being Saints. Thing is, she's Italian. Hypocrisy? No, for three reasons: first, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonies_in_antiquity#Greek_colonies the ancient Greeks spread around the Mediterranean Sea]], and she may well be from one of the parts of Italy where Greek colonists settled; second, Italians are traditionally considered descendants of the ancient Romans (plus a few dozens other populations, but that doesn't matter here), who claimed descendance from the ''Greeks'' of ancient Troy; third and final, after taking over Greece the ancient Romans adopted a version of Greek culture and spread it through their empire, thus, technically, anyone from ''any'' region of the Roman empire could be counted as 'Greek'.'Greek'.
* Ophiucus Shaina is considered the strongest female Saint, and one of the strongest Silver Saints overall. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus_%28astrology%29 Her constellation is sometimes considered the thirteen sign of the Zodiac]]. Well played, Kurumada.
* Shaina and Marin's Cloths are infamous for [[ChainmailBikini covering very little]], especially when compared to later female cloths. In the manga, all Cloths get better coverage whenever they're repaired (or, in the Phoenix's case, regenerate after being disintegrated). Those two Cloths have ''never'' needed being repaired.
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* People like Cancer Death Mask and Pisces Aphrodite seem out of place in the army of the goddess defending Earth from other gods. But think about it: Athena is the Goddess of ''War'', with War intended as ''fighting smart'' (as opposed to Ares who is the God of War as in ''violence and bloodshed''), and who are the Saints who fight the smartest and dirtiest, using respectively fear, the opponents' own emotions and the ability to ''teleport their soul directly to hell'' and the other using ''DeadlyGas''?

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* People like Cancer Death Mask and Pisces Aphrodite seem out of place in the army of the goddess defending Earth from other gods. But think about it: Athena is the Goddess of ''War'', with War intended as ''fighting smart'' (as opposed to Ares who is the God of War as in ''violence and bloodshed''), and who are the Saints who fight the smartest and dirtiest, using respectively fear, the opponents' own emotions and the ability to ''teleport their soul directly to hell'' and the other using ''DeadlyGas''?''DeadlyGas''?
* In the anime Shaina is among those people who see the Cloths who wish to exclude non-Greeks from being Saints. Thing is, she's Italian. Hypocrisy? No, for three reasons: first, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonies_in_antiquity#Greek_colonies the ancient Greeks spread around the Mediterranean Sea]], and she may well be from one of the parts of Italy where Greek colonists settled; second, Italians are traditionally considered descendants of the ancient Romans (plus a few dozens other populations, but that doesn't matter here), who claimed descendance from the ''Greeks'' of ancient Troy; third and final, after taking over Greece the ancient Romans adopted a version of Greek culture and spread it through their empire, thus, technically, anyone from ''any'' region of the Roman empire could be counted as 'Greek'.
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* People like Cancer Death Mask and Pisces Aphrodite seem out of place in the army of the goddess defending Earth from other gods. But think about it: Athena is the Goddess of ''War'', with War intended as ''fighting smart'' (as opposed to Ares who is the God of War as in ''violence and bloodshed''), and who are the Saints who fight the smartest and dirtiest, using respectively fear, the opponents' own emotions and the ability to ''teleport their soul directly to hell'' and the other using ''DeadlyGas''?

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