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* Also a case of Fridge Sadness, but the nature of Obi-Wan's decade-long HeroicBSOD, how he spends the time drowning in guilt and grief over Anakin, replaying old arguments, trying to figure out just where he went wrong, etc. Obi-Wan no longer thinks of himself as a Jedi during this period, so he just goes all-in on ''attachment'' in all the worst ways. The fact that he ''was'' emotionally attached to Anakin was always a known thing, and even the Jedi tend to accept the emotional relationship between Master and Padawan. It's even hinted at times that Obi-Wan's attachment to Anakin did start toeing the line of acceptability to the Order in various ways, but they also tolerated it because the two made such a good team and Obi-Wan tended to keep Anakin on the straight and narrow. But here, where Obi-Wan no longer thinks of himself as a Jedi, he stops even trying to manage his feelings in this regard, ''doesn't'' process them in any kind of remotely healthy way, and if anything, clings to the grief and guilt as a way to hang onto one last piece of Anakin. Which is more or less the opposite of how Jedi like to do things.

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* Also a case of Fridge Sadness, but the nature of Obi-Wan's decade-long HeroicBSOD, how he spends the time drowning in guilt and grief over Anakin, replaying old arguments, trying to figure out just where he went wrong, etc. Obi-Wan no longer thinks of himself as a Jedi during this period, so he just goes all-in on ''attachment'' in all the worst ways. The fact that he ''was'' emotionally attached to Anakin was always a known thing, and even the Jedi tend to accept the emotional relationship between Master and Padawan. It's even hinted at times that Obi-Wan's attachment to Anakin did start toeing the line of acceptability to the Order in various ways, but they also tolerated it because the two made such a good team and Obi-Wan tended to keep Anakin on the straight and narrow.narrow (well, until he didn't). But here, where Obi-Wan no longer thinks of himself as a Jedi, he stops even trying to manage his feelings in this regard, ''doesn't'' process them in any kind of remotely healthy way, and if anything, clings to the grief and guilt as a way to hang onto one last piece of Anakin. Which is more or less the opposite of how Jedi like to do things.
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* Also a case of Fridge Sadness, but the nature of Obi-Wan's decade-long HeroicBSOD, how he spends the time drowning in guilt and grief over Anakin, replaying old arguments, trying to figure out just where he went wrong, etc. Obi-Wan no longer thinks of himself as a Jedi during this period, so he just goes all-in on ''attachment'' in all the worst ways. The fact that he ''was'' emotionally attached to Anakin was always a known thing, and even the Jedi tend to accept the emotional relationship between Master and Padawan. It's even hinted at times that Obi-Wan's attachment to Anakin did start toeing the line of acceptability to the Order in various ways, but they also tolerated it because the two made such a good team and Obi-Wan tended to keep Anakin on the straight and narrow. But here, where Obi-Wan no longer thinks of himself as a Jedi, he stops even trying to manage his feelings in this regard, ''doesn't'' process them in any kind of remotely healthy way, and if anything, clings to the grief and guilt as a way to hang onto one last piece of Anakin. Which is more or less the opposite of how Jedi like to do things.
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** Does Obi-Wan leave him thinking he'll die this time? Doe he leave him thinking his brother might learn and atone? Does he spare his apprentice because he thinks the man's children might change him? Or is he following the will of the Force? Is Uncle Ben weak, compassionate, wise...?

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** Does Obi-Wan leave him thinking he'll die this time? Doe Does he leave him thinking his brother might learn and atone? Does he spare his apprentice because he thinks the man's children might change him? Or is he following the will of the Force? Is Uncle Ben weak, compassionate, wise...?
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** Also, in Literature/StarWarsBloodline, Leia it's totally unwilling to forgive her father, thinking on the man as an utter monster whose existence only gave her pain and misery. Part III also showcases Vader lashing out after a father and a son in such a cruel and even spiteful manner, some short time after Leia wished to know if Obi-Wan was his father and she having a desire to meet him... and then Leia's illusion once she reaches adulthood gets shattered if not totally obliterated once she finds out that the homicidal monster who was willing to kill innocents just to get back at one man, razed a village and represents the worst of the empire was his father all along (and eventually killed Obi-Wan in Episode IV as well, his old friend here). It's understandable Leia wouldn't take the revelation very well.

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** Also, in Literature/StarWarsBloodline, Leia it's is totally unwilling to forgive her father, thinking on the man as an utter monster whose existence only gave her pain and misery. Part III also showcases Vader lashing out after at a father and a son in such a cruel and even spiteful manner, some short time after Leia wished to know if Obi-Wan was his her father and she having a desire to meet him... and then Leia's illusion once she reaches adulthood gets shattered if not totally obliterated once she finds out that the homicidal monster who was willing to kill innocents just to get back at one man, razed a village and represents the worst of the empire Empire was his her father all along (and eventually killed Obi-Wan in Episode IV as well, his her old friend here). It's understandable Leia wouldn't take the revelation very well.
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** Considering how the sides of the Force are shown/implied to work throughout the franchise, it could be a lot simpler: "[[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi Strike me down with all of your hatred, and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!]]" - Jedi are willing to kill, but take care to make the distinction between "killing" and "cold-blooded murder", taking care to never ever do the latter, and also not to do the former ''out of emotion'', only in defense of others. As pointed out above, Vader is most definitely not just another Sith to Obi-Wan. They know each-other and have a deep, if extremely troubled and complicated, emotional connection even during this duel and Obi-Wan knows this. He may have let go of his guilt, but the connection is still there and if he kills Vader himself, it ''will'' be emotionally motivated and he'll lose himself all over again, if not outright fall to the dark. So he walks away.
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** Adding to this, it's a small way of rubbing salt in Vader's wounds. It's Obi-Wan SPECIFICALLY telling Vader that for all the things he did, everything he destroyed and lost, all the hurt and misery he caused both himself and the Galaxy... He's just a pawn in someone else's game. He's just another Darth, no better than Maul, or Tyrannus, or any other Sith. He gave up everything he could have had... To become a servant.

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** Adding to this, it's a small way of rubbing salt in Vader's wounds. It's Obi-Wan SPECIFICALLY telling Vader that for all the things he did, everything he destroyed and lost, all the hurt and misery he caused both himself and the Galaxy... He's just a pawn in someone else's game. He's just another Darth, no better than Maul, or Tyrannus, Tyranus, or any other Sith. He gave up everything he could have had... To to become a servant.
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* Owen's unwillingness to let Luke leave the family farm in ''A New Hope'' is completely recontextualized in this series: here he not only knows Luke is almost certainly Force-sensitive (something that's never been confirmed before) but knows fully well what the Empire does to those with the Force, and has already had ''several'' close-encounters with the Inquisitors that he just barely manages to shield Luke from. By the time Luke is nineteen, Owen is reduced to coming up with increasingly implausible excuses to keep him on Tatooine and off the Empire's radar, and knowing that it's not going to work much longer.

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* Owen's unwillingness to let Luke leave the family farm in ''A New Hope'' is completely recontextualized in this series: here he not only knows Luke is almost certainly Force-sensitive (something that's never been confirmed before) but knows fully full well what the Empire does to those with the Force, and has already had ''several'' close-encounters with the Inquisitors that he just barely manages to shield Luke from. By the time Luke is nineteen, Owen is reduced to coming up with increasingly implausible excuses to keep him on Tatooine and off the Empire's radar, and knowing that it's not going to work much longer.
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** Also, in Literature/StarWarsBloodline, Leia it's totally unwilling to forgive her father, thinking on the man as an utter monster who's existence only gave her pain and misery. Part III also showcases Vader lashing out after a father and a son in such a cruel and even spiteful manner, some short time after Leia wished to know if Obi-Wan was his father and she having a desire to meet him... and then Leia's illusion once she reaches adulthood gets shattered if not totally obliterated once she finds out that the homicidal monster who was willing to kill innocents just to get back at one man, razed a village and represents the worst of the empire was his father all along (and eventually killed Obi-Wan in Episode IV as well, his old friend here). It's understandable Leia wouldn't take the revelation very well.

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** Also, in Literature/StarWarsBloodline, Leia it's totally unwilling to forgive her father, thinking on the man as an utter monster who's whose existence only gave her pain and misery. Part III also showcases Vader lashing out after a father and a son in such a cruel and even spiteful manner, some short time after Leia wished to know if Obi-Wan was his father and she having a desire to meet him... and then Leia's illusion once she reaches adulthood gets shattered if not totally obliterated once she finds out that the homicidal monster who was willing to kill innocents just to get back at one man, razed a village and represents the worst of the empire was his father all along (and eventually killed Obi-Wan in Episode IV as well, his old friend here). It's understandable Leia wouldn't take the revelation very well.
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** The big tragedy here, however? WHAT is Anakin trying to prove? And WHY does he have that need? Because Anakin is seeking that parental approval from Obi-Wan - approval that, due to the Jedi training, Obi-Wan not only isn't well equipped to offer, is also not aware he needs to offer... OR it's a need to prove that he belongs with the Jedi, since Anakin joined the Jedi being told that they wouldn't accept him for training, only changing that determination to honor Qui-Gon's dying wish - so knowing that the Jedi only welcomed him reluctantly. So Anakin's need to prove himself is almost intrinsic to his very being AS a Jedi, while ALSO, according to Obi-Wan, his failing.

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** The big tragedy here, however? WHAT is Anakin trying to prove? And WHY does he have that need? Because Anakin is seeking that parental approval from Obi-Wan - approval that, due to the Jedi training, Obi-Wan not only isn't well equipped to offer, is also not aware he needs to offer... OR it's a need to prove that he belongs with the Jedi, since Anakin joined the Jedi being told that they wouldn't accept him for training, only changing that determination to honor Qui-Gon's dying wish - so knowing that the Jedi only welcomed him reluctantly. So Anakin's need to prove himself is almost intrinsic to his very being AS a Jedi, while ALSO, according to Obi-Wan, his failing.
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** Does Obi-Wan leave him thinking he'll die this time? Doe he leave him thinking his brother might learn and atone? Does he spare his apprentice because he thinks the man's children might change him? Or is he following the will of the Force? Is Uncle Ben weak, compassionate, wise...?
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** Adding to this, it's a small way of rubbing salt in Vader's wounds. It's Obi-Wan SPECIFICALLY telling Vader that for all the things he did, everything he destroyed and lost, all the hurt and misery he caused both himself and the Galaxy... He's just a pawn in someone else's game. He's just another Darth, no better than Maul, or Tyrannus, or any other Sith. He gave up everything he could have had... To become a servant.
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** Also, Bail Organa tasked Leia to seek out Obi-Wan in ''Film/RogueOne'', and it wasn't just because Obi-Wan rescued her.

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** Also, Bail Organa tasked Leia to seek out Obi-Wan in ''Film/RogueOne'', and it wasn't just because Obi-Wan rescued her. This means she had plenty of reasons to put all her faith in him.
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** The big tragedy here, however? WHAT is Anakin trying to prove? And WHY does he have that need? Because Anakin is seeking that parental approval from Obi-Wan - approval that, due to the Jedi training, Obi-Wan not only isn't well equipped to offer, is also not aware he needs to offer... OR it's a need to prove that he belongs with the Jedi, since Anakin joined the Jedi being told that they wouldn't accept him for training, only changing that determination to honor Qui-Gon's dying wish - so knowing that the Jedi only welcomed him reluctantly. So Anakin's need to prove himself is almost intrinsic to his very being AS a Jedi, while ALSO, according to Obi-Wan, his failing.
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* Where did Obi-Wan learn that the lesson that "need for victory is a weakness" to Anakin? Yoda. Listen to how Obi-Wan says it "Your need to prove yourself is your undoing. Until you overcome it, [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker a Padawan you will still be]].

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* Where did Obi-Wan learn that the lesson that "need for victory is a weakness" to Anakin? Yoda. Listen to how Obi-Wan says it "Your need to prove yourself is your undoing. Until you overcome it, [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker a Padawan you will still be]].
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* Where did Obi-Wan learn that the lesson that "need for victory is a weakness" to Anakin? Yoda. Listen to how Obi-Wan says it "Your need to prove yourself is your undoing. Until you overcome it, [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker a Padawan you will still be]].
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** Sith Lords gain their power through anger. Palpatine surrounded himself in his early days with people he hated, forced to pretend to be their friend, in order to boost his powers in the Dark Side. For Anakin he was placed in a suit that constantly hurt him and limited his movements, meaning he couldn't use his natural fighting instincts; he also chose to make his home on the planet where he lost everything. Forcing Vader to call off the search is another way to further entrench Anakin in the Dark Side: him knowing that Obi Wan is alive, beat him in a duel, and he isn't allowed to do a thing? Anakin will be left full of frustration and anger that will only make him stronger.
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** Obi-Wan will likely soon learn that Vader has buried Anakin completely and avoids anything and everything to do with his former self. He would never return to the Lars homestead because that’s where his mother’s grave is. Low orbit over Tatooine is as close as he’s ever willing to get.
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** Also, Bail Organa tasked Leia to seek out Obi-Wan in ''Film/RogueOne'', and it wasn't just because Obi-Wan rescued her.
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** The troper who posted this also forgot that Bail Organa tasked Leia to seek out Obi-Wan in ''Film/RogueOne'', and that it wasn't just because he rescued her.
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** The troper who posted this also forgot that Bail Organa tasked Leia to seek out Obi-wan in ''Film/RogueOne'', and that it wasn't just because he rescued her.

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** The troper who posted this also forgot that Bail Organa tasked Leia to seek out Obi-wan Obi-Wan in ''Film/RogueOne'', and that it wasn't just because he rescued her.
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* Besides wanting to redirect Vader from Obi-Wan, Palpatine showed his PragmaticVillainy in telling Vader to drop his chase. In the process of hunting him down to curry favor, an Inquisitor hired thugs to kidnap an Imperial Senator's child, let her witness some phenomenal cruelty towards innocents, and nearly being tortured for information. Bail Organa is absolutely the type of man who would call attention to all of her experiences during the season as an example of the Empire overreaching, [[PapaWolf especially with this being his daughter]]. While the initiation of the plot was all Reva going over everyone else's heads, from Palpatine's perspective Vader's obsession with Obi-Wan had created a situation where he'd have to dance around some ''very'' frustrating questions to keep the senate under his control. If he let Vader keep going, the Dark Lord's rage and lack of subtlety could have legitimately endangered the Galactic Empire's future on political backlash alone.

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