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* If Selene loses Julianna or the two are forced to become fugitives, a Togami or Lucille who is alive and is still evil is the best opportunity to get vengeance on Elodie as well as Nova as a whole. A scenario, of all four are alive and Togami's crystal conquest isn't stopped and Lucille has rendered Elodie infertile doesn't look pretty.

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* If Selene loses Julianna or the two are forced to become fugitives, a Togami or Lucille who is alive and is still evil is the best opportunity to get vengeance on Elodie as well as Nova as a whole. A scenario, of all four are alive and Togami's crystal conquest isn't stopped and Lucille has rendered Elodie infertile doesn't look pretty.pretty.
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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Laurent's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in a prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess (is you go the soldier queen route) to begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.

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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Laurent's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in a prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess (is (if you go the soldier queen route) to begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.
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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Laurent's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in a prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.

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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Laurent's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in a prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess (is you go the soldier queen route) to begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.
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* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for Elodie, it implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Brin and passing her holdings to Bennett, locking Julianna up for life, giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is assassinated being replaced with a random commoner, ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead & the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.

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* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for Elodie, it implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Banion after she's already executed Brin and passing her and his holdings to Bennett, Bennett and his son respectively, locking Julianna up for life, life (optionally killing her later), giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is assassinated being replaced with a random commoner, commoner (as opposed to an experienced administrator), ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead & the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, inherit (while his son Anciet can only be named heir, as, at 8 years old, he's too young to immediately assume Banion's title, meaning a long regency), Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.
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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Laurent's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.

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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Laurent's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in a prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.
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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Bennet's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.

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** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Bennet's Laurent's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.

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* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for Elodie, which implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Brin and passing her holdings to Bennett, locking Julianna up for life, giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is assassinated being replaced with a random commoner, ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead & the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.

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* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for Elodie, which it implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Brin and passing her holdings to Bennett, locking Julianna up for life, giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is assassinated being replaced with a random commoner, ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead & the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.rookies.
** The sad part is that this is probably the best outcome for cruel Elodie. With the power of the nobility broken, there's nobody left to actually endanger her rule, allowing her to rule with impunity, even more so if she executes the entirety of her Uncle Bennet's family after figuring out her Aunt's plot, ensuring that she won't have to worry about anything from that direction. Play her cards right, and she is in prime position to become an unstoppable absolute monarch, accountable to no one, with the military prowess begin a reconquest of the continent in a bid to crown herself Empress of a new Empire of Nova.
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* If Selene loses Julianna or the two are forced to become fugitives, a Togami who is alive and is still evil is the best opportunity to get vengeance on Elodie as well as Nova as a whole.

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* If Selene loses Julianna or the two are forced to become fugitives, a Togami or Lucille who is alive and is still evil is the best opportunity to get vengeance on Elodie as well as Nova as a whole.whole. A scenario, of all four are alive and Togami's crystal conquest isn't stopped and Lucille has rendered Elodie infertile doesn't look pretty.
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** In the end, Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead). However, even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory hollow]].

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** In the end, Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead). However, even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory hollow]].hollow]].
* If Selene loses Julianna or the two are forced to become fugitives, a Togami who is alive and is still evil is the best opportunity to get vengeance on Elodie as well as Nova as a whole.
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* What becomes of Julianna in the "evil minion" ending, especially if she's Elodie's mentor. Given that Elodie, the one person traditionally trusted to have magic, has murdered her own father and absconded with another Lumen, it's doubtful people will be generously inclined to the one public Lumen left in Nova. Considering how in an epilogue where the Lumen approval didn't improve Charlotte almost got drowned by an angry mob for ''healing a dying boy'', Julianna got [[CruelAndUnusualDeath brutally lynched]] or forced to flee Nova entirely is a big possibility.

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* What becomes of Julianna in the "evil minion" ending, especially if she's Elodie's mentor. Given that Elodie, the one person traditionally trusted to have magic, has murdered her own father and absconded with another Lumen, it's doubtful people will be generously inclined to the one public Lumen left in Nova. Considering how in an epilogue where the Lumen approval didn't improve Charlotte almost got drowned by an angry mob for ''healing a dying boy'', Julianna got getting [[CruelAndUnusualDeath brutally lynched]] or forced to flee Nova entirely is a big possibility.
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* The law forbidding a single person from holding more than one duchy isn't only to keep people from officially having a position similar to Arisse's. Each duchy used to have its own Lumen crystal, but a person can only bond with one at a time. Back when it was the case, having more than a duchy woudld have meant having more than one crystal, and the unused one(s) would have been wasted. A single family having too many crystals would also be a problem if the line went extinct.

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* The law forbidding a single person from holding more than one duchy isn't only to keep people from officially having a position similar to Arisse's. Each duchy used to have its own Lumen crystal, but a person can only bond with one at a time. Back when it was the case, having more than a duchy woudld would have meant having more than one crystal, and the unused one(s) would have been wasted. A single family having too many crystals would also be a problem if the line went extinct.
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* The law forbidding a single person from holding more than one duchy isn't only to keep people from officially having a position similar to Arisse's. Each duchy used to have its own Lumen crystal, but a person can only bond with one at a time. Back when it was the case, having more than a duchy woudld have meant having more than one crystal, and the unused one(s) would have been wasted. A single family having too many crystals would also be a problem if the line went extinct.
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* It's possible to [[spoiler:marry Kevan after killing his mother, as long as he doesn't realize you did it]]. In that case the ending slides look heartwarming and all, but [[spoiler:let's hope he never finds out how his trust has been abused ''again'']]. And given how little is said about how she feels in return, who knows how a cruel Elodie could take advantage of UndyingLoyalty?
** Kevan's entire life is one bucket of FridgeHorror. [[spoiler:It's very likely that his stepfather "seduced" him by either exploiting his "family above all" attitude, or ''instilling'' it. More than one sexual abuser has [[TruthInTelevision silenced their victims]] by telling them they'll ruin the family if they tell.]] It's possible, even ''likely'', that Kevan is clinging to that viewpoint in order to protect himself from the realization that what happened to him was both wrong ''and'' not his fault.
* It's possible for Elodie to become queen after dodging a number of assassination attempts, but without ever discovering who's behind them and dealing with them. [[spoiler:The endings show that Elodie does indeed stay Queen once she's on the throne, but there's no reason for Lucille to refrain from taking a second crack at it with Elodie's children.]]
* What becomes of Julianna in the [[spoiler:"evil minion" ending]], especially if she's Elodie's mentor. Given that Elodie, the one person traditionally trusted to have magic, [[spoiler:has murdered her own father and absconded with another Lumen]], it's doubtful people will be generously inclined to [[spoiler:the one public Lumen left in Nova]]. Considering how in an epilogue where the Lumen approval didn't improve [[spoiler: Charlotte almost got drowned by an angry mob for ''healing a dying boy'']], Julianna [[spoiler: got [[CruelAndUnusualDeath brutally lynched]] or forced to flee Nova entirely]] is a big possibility.
* Mutually exclusive choices can lead to this. For example, in order to [[spoiler:romance Evrard]], you can't go to the birthday party, which means that [[spoiler:Briony will die in the Old Forest, and Kevan has a significant chance of dying trying to avenge her]].
* The wife-killer, if dealt with in the right way: [[spoiler:All Lumen crystals are color-coordinated to their potential attuned wielders, usually by hair or eye color, and it's stated that their personalities must be similar, and the wife-killer's a violent, angry man who immediately lashes out the second he perceives a threat. His Lumen crystal? It's ''orange''.]] Giving him a Lumen crystal would be the only way to make [[FieryRedhead Kevan]] more dangerous than he already is (though a Lumen Kevan who's already given his loyalty to Elodie would at least be on her side).
* The squid poem can end up in Talarist's possession. Hilarious! [[spoiler:Except for the fact that that poem was last seen stuck in a hard-to-reach place in Elodie's castle, and on more than one occasion he reacts to some of Elodie's decisions awfully quickly (and harshly) for someone who doesn't even live in Nova. It's possible, even likely, that he's got a spy infiltrating the castle on his behalf.]]
** WordOfGod [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2006&p=14192&hilit=poem#p14192 about the squid poem]] is that someone else found the poem and began reciting it in taverns, from which it spread. [[spoiler:Then it was overheard by one of Talarist's agents. In the game itself, an Elodie who's engaged to Talarist can flee Togami's army by taking refuge in Talasse, and she's said to be met partway through her journey by Sednan agents who aid her escape. Talarist has agents ''somewhere'' in Nova, at least.]]
* Possibly Uncle Laurent's fate, if you get the Imprisoned Your Uncle achievement. [[spoiler:After a short time in the dungeons, he goes insane due to being poisoned. The obvious culprit is Lucille, but she's nowhere near him, so how did it happen? Lucille has powers over nothingness and this event doesn't happen unless Elodie can figure out the assassin came from Merva. Lucille most likely poisoned Laurent before the Grand Ball and used her Lumen powers to prevent it from taking effect; once they're separated, her spell wears off, and Laurent (and all his possible knowledge of her scheming) dies, leaving no direct connection to her as the culprit.]]

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* It's possible to [[spoiler:marry marry Kevan after killing his mother, as long as he doesn't realize you Elodie did it]]. it. In that case the ending slides look heartwarming and all, but [[spoiler:let's let's hope he never finds out how his trust has been abused ''again'']].''again''. And given how little is said about how she feels in return, who knows how a cruel Elodie could take advantage of UndyingLoyalty?
** Kevan's entire life is one bucket of FridgeHorror. [[spoiler:It's It's very likely that his stepfather "seduced" him by either exploiting his "family above all" attitude, or ''instilling'' it. More than one sexual abuser has [[TruthInTelevision silenced their victims]] by telling them they'll ruin the family if they tell.]] It's possible, even ''likely'', that Kevan is clinging to that viewpoint in order to protect himself from the realization that what happened to him was both wrong ''and'' not his fault.
* It's possible for Elodie to become queen after dodging a number of assassination attempts, but without ever discovering who's behind them and dealing with them. [[spoiler:The The endings show that Elodie does indeed stay Queen once she's on the throne, but there's no reason for Lucille to refrain from taking a second crack at it with Elodie's children.]]
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* What becomes of Julianna in the [[spoiler:"evil "evil minion" ending]], ending, especially if she's Elodie's mentor. Given that Elodie, the one person traditionally trusted to have magic, [[spoiler:has has murdered her own father and absconded with another Lumen]], Lumen, it's doubtful people will be generously inclined to [[spoiler:the the one public Lumen left in Nova]]. Nova. Considering how in an epilogue where the Lumen approval didn't improve [[spoiler: Charlotte almost got drowned by an angry mob for ''healing a dying boy'']], boy'', Julianna [[spoiler: got [[CruelAndUnusualDeath brutally lynched]] or forced to flee Nova entirely]] entirely is a big possibility.
* Mutually exclusive choices can lead to this. For example, in order to [[spoiler:romance Evrard]], you romance Evrard, Elodie can't go to the birthday party, which means that [[spoiler:Briony Briony will die in the Old Forest, and Kevan has a significant chance of dying trying to avenge her]].
her.
* The wife-killer, if dealt with in the right way: [[spoiler:All All Lumen crystals are color-coordinated to their potential attuned wielders, usually by hair or eye color, and it's stated that their personalities must be similar, and the wife-killer's a violent, angry man who immediately lashes out the second he perceives a threat. His Lumen crystal? It's ''orange''.]] Giving him a Lumen crystal would be the only way to make [[FieryRedhead Kevan]] more dangerous than he already is (though a Lumen Kevan who's already given his loyalty to Elodie would at least be on her side).
* The squid poem can end up in Talarist's possession. Hilarious! [[spoiler:Except Except for the fact that that poem was last seen stuck in a hard-to-reach place in Elodie's castle, and on more than one occasion he reacts to some of Elodie's decisions awfully quickly (and harshly) for someone who doesn't even live in Nova. It's possible, even likely, that he's got a spy infiltrating the castle on his behalf.]]
behalf.
** WordOfGod [[http://hanakoforum.nfshost.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2006&p=14192&hilit=poem#p14192 about the squid poem]] is that someone else found the poem and began reciting it in taverns, from which it spread. [[spoiler:Then Then it was overheard by one of Talarist's agents. In the game itself, an Elodie who's engaged to Talarist can flee Togami's army by taking refuge in Talasse, and she's said to be met partway through her journey by Sednan agents who aid her escape. Talarist has agents ''somewhere'' in Nova, at least.]]
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* Possibly Uncle Laurent's fate, if you get the Imprisoned Your Uncle achievement. [[spoiler:After After a short time in the dungeons, he goes insane due to being poisoned. The obvious culprit is Lucille, but she's nowhere near him, so how did it happen? Lucille has powers over nothingness and this event doesn't happen unless Elodie can figure out the assassin came from Merva. Lucille most likely poisoned Laurent before the Grand Ball and used her Lumen powers to prevent it from taking effect; once they're separated, her spell wears off, and Laurent (and all his possible knowledge of her scheming) dies, leaving no direct connection to her as the culprit.]]



* Julianna's [[SinkOrSwimMentor refusal]] to help Elodie is more and more upsetting the more you think about it. She won't expose Selene unless Elodie can sense her powers herself, even if that means you don't have enough Lumens to fight [[spoiler:Togami's fleet]], she won't explain anything of her own volition (and will snub Elodie over her minor magic ability if you max out Meditation), if she's your tutor, she's present at the Grand Ball but does nothing to help if [[spoiler:Elodie confronts Lucille]], she does nothing against [[spoiler:Togami himself]] for extremely flimsy reasons, and in general just acts like a complete snob. How much better would the opinion of Lumens be if Julianna didn't behave as if being a Lumen made her more important than the ''queen?''
* One if you read between the lines a little in the "Soldier Queen" ending (reach coronation with more combined military skills than other skills). [[spoiler: Elodie comes to consider ruling a "game". She Builds up her military greatly, having just devastated the Shanjian army. Togami escaped and he's rebuilding his own forces. A second confrontation is clearly going to happen, and ''soon'']]
** In the "Soldier Queen" ending, if you managed to [[spoiler:defeat Shanjia's fleet in naval battle]], it is mentioned that [[spoiler: Shanjia is facing an internal crisis in the wake of Togami's preparation for second invasion]]. [[spoiler:Who says that Elodie won't exploit this chance for counter invasion, even more so if she managed to form an alliance with Thalasse and/or Ixion]].

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* Julianna's [[SinkOrSwimMentor refusal]] to help Elodie is more and more upsetting the more you think about it. She won't expose Selene unless Elodie can sense her powers herself, even if that means you don't have enough Lumens to fight [[spoiler:Togami's fleet]], Togami's fleet, she won't explain anything of her own volition (and will snub Elodie over her minor magic ability if you max out Meditation), if she's your tutor, she's present at the Grand Ball but does nothing to help if [[spoiler:Elodie Elodie confronts Lucille]], Lucille, she does nothing against [[spoiler:Togami himself]] Togami himself for extremely flimsy reasons, and in general just acts like a complete snob. How much better would the opinion of Lumens be if Julianna didn't behave as if being a Lumen made her more important than the ''queen?''
* One if you read between the lines a little in the "Soldier Queen" ending (reach coronation with more combined military skills than other skills). [[spoiler: Elodie comes to consider ruling a "game". She Builds up her military greatly, having just devastated the Shanjian army. Togami escaped and he's rebuilding his own forces. A second confrontation is clearly going to happen, and ''soon'']]
''soon''.
** In the "Soldier Queen" ending, if you managed to [[spoiler:defeat defeat Shanjia's fleet in naval battle]], battle, it is mentioned that [[spoiler: Shanjia is facing an internal crisis in the wake of Togami's preparation for second invasion]]. [[spoiler:Who invasion. Who says that Elodie won't exploit this chance for counter invasion, even more so if she managed to form an alliance with Thalasse and/or Ixion]].Ixion.



* The very concise final sentence in the (arguably) worst ending where [[spoiler:Elodie betray Nova for Togami, in addition also ordering imprisonment/execution of her maternal uncle, leading to Charlotte become ''extremely'' unpopular Nova's throne heir and therefore, civil war (which might not even be the first)]],[[spoiler:"And thus the power of Nova was broken"]]. It might imply that [[spoiler:the horrible devastation caused by this civil war will cause Nova to be even worse than just being a VestigialEmpire, but [[BalkanizeMe the very concept of sovereign and unified Nova itself cease to exist]]]].
** Remember how Julianna [[MyGreatestFailure feel responsible]] for Fidelia's death & how, for all the questionable things she did, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold she put Nova's well-being as her highest priority in life]]? Just imagine how she [[DespairEventHorizon has to cope]] with the fact that her pupil, Fidelia's daughter [[spoiler:not only utilize her power to commit cruel acts but also [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil willingly betray her own nation, ensuring it's devastation]]]] in this ending.
** It's mentioned that Tombula, considered as analogue of early post-revolution France, [[spoiler:was discouraged from committing invasion thanks to Julianna's magic]]. Now with [[spoiler:Nova devastated by horrible civil war and Julianna almost certainly [[DespairEventHorizon not in the best state of mind]], it's practically an invitation for Tombula to finally "export their revolutionary idea" to Nova]].
** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead)]]. However, [[spoiler:even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory hollow]]]].

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* The very concise final sentence in the (arguably) worst ending where [[spoiler:Elodie Elodie betray Nova for Togami, in addition also ordering imprisonment/execution of her maternal uncle, leading to Charlotte become ''extremely'' unpopular Nova's throne heir and therefore, civil war (which might not even be the first)]],[[spoiler:"And first), "And thus the power of Nova was broken"]]. broken". It might imply that [[spoiler:the the horrible devastation caused by this civil war will cause Nova to be even worse than just being a VestigialEmpire, but [[BalkanizeMe the very concept of sovereign and unified Nova itself cease to exist]]]].
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** Remember how Julianna [[MyGreatestFailure feel responsible]] for Fidelia's death & how, for all the questionable things she did, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold she put Nova's well-being as her highest priority in life]]? Just imagine how she [[DespairEventHorizon has to cope]] with the fact that her pupil, Fidelia's daughter [[spoiler:not not only utilize her power to commit cruel acts but also [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil willingly betray her own nation, ensuring it's devastation]]]] devastation]] in this ending.
** It's mentioned that Tombula, considered as analogue of early post-revolution France, [[spoiler:was was discouraged from committing invasion thanks to Julianna's magic]]. magic. Now with [[spoiler:Nova Nova devastated by horrible civil war and Julianna almost certainly [[DespairEventHorizon not in the best state of mind]], it's practically an invitation for Tombula to finally "export their revolutionary idea" to Nova]].
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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead)]]. figurehead). However, [[spoiler:even even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory hollow]]]].hollow]].

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* An interesting one mentioned on the main page; while Elodie can learn many things, her young age and relative lack of experience means she can't win any of the events she can compete in... except one. Elodie, if properly trained in it, can outright win the Music contest. This is {{Foreshadowing}} that, while Elodie can become quite skilled at anything she focuses on, she's a genuine musical prodigy, and her musical talent might be important... [[spoiler: In fact, Elodie is such an incredibly gifted musician that she can even [[HeelFaceTurn move the heart of a]] [[SorcerousOverlord foreign Emperor.]] ]]

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* An interesting one mentioned on the main page; while Elodie can learn many things, her young age and relative lack of experience means she can't win any of the events she can compete in... except one. Elodie, if properly trained in it, can outright win the Music contest. This is {{Foreshadowing}} that, while Elodie can become quite skilled at anything she focuses on, she's a genuine musical prodigy, and her musical talent might be important... [[spoiler: In fact, Elodie is such an incredibly gifted musician that she can even [[HeelFaceTurn move the heart of a]] [[SorcerousOverlord foreign Emperor.]] ]]King]].



* It's been noted that Julianna and Selene share some similarities with [[Anime/SailorMoon Sailor Uranus and Neptune]] respectively and it's obvious due to their relationship, status as adult MagicalGirlWarrior types, and power sets, but it's easier to miss Charlotte as ''Sailor Saturn'': odd healing powers that she tries to hide because they're considered strange, a purple color theme, a close friendship with a pink-haired crown princess, [[spoiler:and she's the daughter of a prominent series villain who has turned to evil in an effort to elevate her]]. She even has the same haircut!

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* It's been noted that Julianna and Selene share some similarities with [[Anime/SailorMoon Sailor Uranus and Neptune]] respectively and it's obvious due to their relationship, status as adult MagicalGirlWarrior types, and power sets, but it's easier to miss Charlotte as ''Sailor Saturn'': odd healing powers that she tries to hide because they're considered strange, a purple color theme, a close friendship with a pink-haired crown princess, [[spoiler:and and she's the daughter of a prominent series villain who has turned to evil in an effort to elevate her]].her. She even has the same haircut!



* Julianna being an arrogant (if steadfastly loyal to the crown) snob about magic makes sense. Being the heir to the only noble family that openly practices magic, her attitude is only natural: [[spoiler:Her family's view of magic is from a time in history where Nova's authority came from Lumen nobles giving their power to their monarch and using that authority to abuse the world around them with the magical backlash.]] ''Of course'' she thinks she's better than everyone else, her morals are completely out of date. Listening to her vitriol about anything is like listening to somebody's casually-racist granddad.

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* Julianna being an arrogant (if steadfastly loyal to the crown) snob about magic makes sense. Being the heir to the only noble family that openly practices magic, her attitude is only natural: [[spoiler:Her her family's view of magic is from a time in history where Nova's authority came from Lumen nobles giving their power to their monarch and using that authority to abuse the world around them with the magical backlash.]] backlash. ''Of course'' she thinks she's better than everyone else, her morals are completely out of date. Listening to her vitriol about anything is like listening to somebody's casually-racist granddad.grandparent.
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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead)]]. However, even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory pointless]].

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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead)]]. However, even [[spoiler:even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory pointless]].hollow]]]].
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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead). However, even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory pointless]].

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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (She become the ruler of Nova with Charlotte as the figurehead).figurehead)]]. However, even if somehow they still have ''anything'' left to salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory pointless]].
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* What becomes of Julianna in the [[spoiler:"evil minion" ending]], especially if she's Elodie's mentor. Given that Elodie, the one person traditionally trusted to have magic, [[spoiler:has murdered her own father and absconded with another Lumen]], it's doubtful people will be generously inclined to [[spoiler:the one public Lumen left in Nova]].

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* What becomes of Julianna in the [[spoiler:"evil minion" ending]], especially if she's Elodie's mentor. Given that Elodie, the one person traditionally trusted to have magic, [[spoiler:has murdered her own father and absconded with another Lumen]], it's doubtful people will be generously inclined to [[spoiler:the one public Lumen left in Nova]]. Considering how in an epilogue where the Lumen approval didn't improve [[spoiler: Charlotte almost got drowned by an angry mob for ''healing a dying boy'']], Julianna [[spoiler: got [[CruelAndUnusualDeath brutally lynched]] or forced to flee Nova entirely]] is a big possibility.
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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (Charlotte on the throne with herself as Prime Minister). But even if that civil war didn't cause Nova to collapse, [[MeaninglessVillainVictory]]they will inherit a failed,broken nation along with it's [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating pissed citizens and nobles]]]].

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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (Charlotte on (She become the throne ruler of Nova with herself Charlotte as Prime Minister). But the figurehead). However, even if that civil war didn't cause Nova somehow they still have ''anything'' left to collapse, [[MeaninglessVillainVictory]]they will inherit a failed,broken nation along with it's [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating pissed citizens and nobles]]]].salvage out of the ruins of Nova, her triumph is practically rendered [[MeaninglessVillainVictory pointless]].
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* Possibly Uncle Laurent's fate, if you get the Imprisoned Your Uncle achievement. [[spoiler:After a short time in the dungeons, he goes insane due to being poisoned. The obvious culprit is Lucille, but she's nowhere near him, so how did it happen? Lucille has powers over nothingness, and this event doesn't happen unless Elodie can figure out the assassin came from Merva. Lucille most likely poisoned Laurent before the Grand Ball and used her Lumen powers to prevent it from taking effect; once they're separated, her spell wears off, and Laurent (and all his possible knowledge of her scheming) dies, leaving no direct connection to her as the culprit.]]
* A lot of things are easy to brush off just because that's the tone of the game, but when you think about it, all the possible, nation-breaking events that depend on indirect consequence to Elodie's decisions (the civil war, peasant revolt, the Mervan rebellion, public opinion of Lumens, etc) aren't usually things that can come to a boil in under twelve months. Your nobles are more forgivable, in that Fidelia was a powerful and well-respected queen and Arisse is a more firmly-established leader so it's natural that they'd be more quick to turn to a new authority, but it implies that the commoners of Nova are ''fickle as hell'', especially if you raise public opinion of Lumens; Julianna can go from being a distrusted and mildly ostracized social pariah to being openly celebrated and able to bring her girlfriend out of hiding in less than a year.

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* Possibly Uncle Laurent's fate, if you get the Imprisoned Your Uncle achievement. [[spoiler:After a short time in the dungeons, he goes insane due to being poisoned. The obvious culprit is Lucille, but she's nowhere near him, so how did it happen? Lucille has powers over nothingness, nothingness and this event doesn't happen unless Elodie can figure out the assassin came from Merva. Lucille most likely poisoned Laurent before the Grand Ball and used her Lumen powers to prevent it from taking effect; once they're separated, her spell wears off, and Laurent (and all his possible knowledge of her scheming) dies, leaving no direct connection to her as the culprit.]]
* A lot of things are easy to brush off just because that's the tone of the game, but when you think about it, it all the possible, nation-breaking events that depend on indirect consequence to Elodie's decisions (the civil war, peasant revolt, the Mervan rebellion, public opinion of Lumens, Lumens,...etc) aren't usually things that can come to a boil in under twelve months. Your nobles are more forgivable, in that Fidelia was a powerful and well-respected queen and & Arisse is a more firmly-established leader so so, it's natural that they'd be more quick to turn to a new authority, but it implies that the commoners of Nova are ''fickle as hell'', especially if you raise public opinion of Lumens; Julianna can go from being a distrusted and distrusted, mildly ostracized social pariah to being openly celebrated and able to bring her girlfriend out of hiding in less than a year.



* One if you read between the lines a little in the "Soldier Queen" ending (reach coronation with more combined military skills than other skills). [[spoiler: Elodie comes to consider ruling a "game" and builds up her military greatly, having just devastated the Shanjian army. Togami escaped and he's rebuilding his own forces. A second confrontation is clearly going to happen, and ''soon'']]

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* One if you read between the lines a little in the "Soldier Queen" ending (reach coronation with more combined military skills than other skills). [[spoiler: Elodie comes to consider ruling a "game" and builds "game". She Builds up her military greatly, having just devastated the Shanjian army. Togami escaped and he's rebuilding his own forces. A second confrontation is clearly going to happen, and ''soon'']]



* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for her, that implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Brin and passing her holdings to Bennett and locking Julianna up for life and giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is assassinated and replaced with a random commoner, ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead and the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.

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* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for her, that Elodie, which implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Brin and passing her holdings to Bennett and Bennett, locking Julianna up for life and life, giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is assassinated and being replaced with a random commoner, ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead and & the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.



** Remember how Julianna [[MyGreatestFailure feel responsible]] for Fidelia's death and how for all the questionable things she did, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold she put Nova's well-being as her highest priority in life]]? Just imagine how she [[DespairEventHorizon has to cope]] with the fact that her pupil, Fidelia's daughter, [[spoiler:not only utilize her power to commit cruel acts but also [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil willingly betray her own nation and ensuring it's devastation]]]] in this ending.

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** Remember how Julianna [[MyGreatestFailure feel responsible]] for Fidelia's death and how & how, for all the questionable things she did, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold she put Nova's well-being as her highest priority in life]]? Just imagine how she [[DespairEventHorizon has to cope]] with the fact that her pupil, Fidelia's daughter, daughter [[spoiler:not only utilize her power to commit cruel acts but also [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil willingly betray her own nation and nation, ensuring it's devastation]]]] in this ending.



** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (Charlotte in the throne with herself as Prime Minister). But even if that civil war didn't cause Nova to collapse, [[MeaninglessVillainVictory they will inherit a failed and broken nation]] along with it's [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating pissed citizens and nobles]]]].

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** In the end, [[spoiler:Lucille finally [[GoneHorriblyRight get what she always wanted]] (Charlotte in on the throne with herself as Prime Minister). But even if that civil war didn't cause Nova to collapse, [[MeaninglessVillainVictory they [[MeaninglessVillainVictory]]they will inherit a failed and broken nation]] failed,broken nation along with it's [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating pissed citizens and nobles]]]].
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* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for her, that implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Brin and passing her holdings to Bennett and locking Julianna up for life and giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is executed and replaced with a random commoner, ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead and the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.

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* A sufficiently cruel and intimidating Elodie can hold Briony hostage and trade her for the exile of the linchpins of the noble revolt. If this is part of a pattern of behavior for her, that implies an ''ugly'' future for Nova. If she wins the vote of no-confidence by executing Brin and passing her holdings to Bennett and locking Julianna up for life and giving her title to Ignatius, and if the Duke of Elath is executed assassinated and replaced with a random commoner, ''and'' if Elodie exiles the Duchess of Mead and the Duchess of Lillah, that leaves all but one of those territories with incompetent leadership. Only Kiran, the new Duke of Lillah, was actually prepared for the position: Bennett admits he needs Lieke's guidance because he never expected to inherit, Ignatius was rejected by his father and was never trained to manage his family's holdings, a random commoner would naturally have no experience with noble rulership ''or'' the cutthroat world of Novan noble politics, and Briony is a foolhardy child with an inferiority complex and even less education than Elodie. On top of all ''that'', since Kevan doesn't show up to threaten Elodie over the exile of his mother and sisters, he's either willingly gone with them into exile, or is too afraid of Elodie to push his luck, and since he has no children, then his title would pass to Thaddeus, who is just as emotionally unstable as he is ''and'' was never intended to inherit! There's no telling what kind of absolute mess the peasants of Nova are going to be in when the nobility consists almost entirely of psychopaths, morons, and rookies.
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* An interesting one mentioned on the main page; while Elodie can learn many things, her young age and relative lack of experience means she can't win any of the events she can compete in... except one. Elodie, if properly trained in it, can outright win the Music contest. This is {{Foreshadowing}} that, while Elodie can become quite skilled at anything she focuses on, she's a genuine musical prodigy, and her musical talent might be important... [[spoiler: In fact, Elodie is such an incredibly gifted musician that she can even [[HeelFaceTurn move the heart of a]] [[SorcerousOverlord]] like Togami.]]

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* An interesting one mentioned on the main page; while Elodie can learn many things, her young age and relative lack of experience means she can't win any of the events she can compete in... except one. Elodie, if properly trained in it, can outright win the Music contest. This is {{Foreshadowing}} that, while Elodie can become quite skilled at anything she focuses on, she's a genuine musical prodigy, and her musical talent might be important... [[spoiler: In fact, Elodie is such an incredibly gifted musician that she can even [[HeelFaceTurn move the heart of a]] [[SorcerousOverlord]] like Togami.[[SorcerousOverlord foreign Emperor.]] ]]

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