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** Also, Logan had said that he wanted to see if he could surpass John’s skill, which is why he repeated the test of the barn game with Halloran’s informants (along the intention of using the corpses of the victims that failed to make the police think that the barn game was active); The Laser Collar is a more humane version of the RBT, as it kills the wearer quickly by destroying the brain, compared to the RBT‘s brutal ripping open of the victim’s head.
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** Also, Logan had said that he wanted to see if he could surpass live up to John’s skill, which is why he repeated the test of the barn game with Halloran’s informants (along the intention of using the corpses of the victims that failed to make the police think that the barn game was active); The Laser Collar is a more humane version of the RBT, as it kills the wearer quickly by destroying the brain, compared to the RBT‘s brutal ripping open of the victim’s head.
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** Flat screens existed in some forms in the early late 90s- 2000’s.
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%%** Another theory is the symbolism behind Billy: the puppet is an upgraded version of a slightly less creepy toy John made for his miscarried son, which John started to treat like his actual, hypothetical son following his breakdown. Billy represents Gideon judging the people of the world that took his life and offering a chance to better themselves. So if Billy represents Gideon, why would John
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* Logan was seen helping John construct the Reverse Beartrap in a flashback; the Laser Collars could be considered an updated version of the RBT, considering that both traps mutilate the victims head by tearing it apart.
** Also, Logan had said that he wanted to see if he could surpass John’s skill, which is why he repeated the test of the barn game with Halloran’s informants (along the intention of using the corpses of the victims that failed to make the police think that the barn game was active); The Laser Collar is a more humane version of the RBT, as it kills the wearer quickly by destroying the brain, compared to the RBT‘s brutal ripping open of the victim’s head.
** Also, Logan had said that he wanted to see if he could surpass John’s skill, which is why he repeated the test of the barn game with Halloran’s informants (along the intention of using the corpses of the victims that failed to make the police think that the barn game was active); The Laser Collar is a more humane version of the RBT, as it kills the wearer quickly by destroying the brain, compared to the RBT‘s brutal ripping open of the victim’s head.
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''Fridge/SawI'' | ''Fridge/SawII'' | ''Fridge/SawIV'' | ''Fridge/SawV'' | ''Fridge/SawVI'' | ''Fridge/Saw3D'' | '''''Jigsaw''''' | ''[[Fridge/Spiral2021 Spiral]]'' | ''[[Fridge/SawX Saw X]]''-]]]]]
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''Fridge/SawI'' | ''Fridge/SawII'' | ''Fridge/SawIV'' | ''Fridge/SawV'' | ''Fridge/SawVI'' | ''Fridge/Saw3D'' | '''''Jigsaw''''' | ''[[Fridge/Spiral2021 Spiral]]'' | ''[[Fridge/SawX Saw X]]''-]]]]]''Fridge/SawX''-]]]]]
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''Fridge/SawI'' | ''Fridge/SawII'' | ''Fridge/SawIV'' | ''Fridge/SawV'' | ''Fridge/SawVI'' | ''Fridge/Saw3D'' | '''''Jigsaw''''' | ''[[Fridge/Spiral2021 Spiral]]''-]]]]]Spiral]]'' | ''[[Fridge/SawX Saw X]]''-]]]]]
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* Several of the traps carry similarities to others from earlier in the franchise; the bucket-head one in particular is similar to the first one the [[Film/SawV Fatal Five]] go through, and Ryan and Anna's final test is somewhat similar to [[Film/Saw1 the bathroom trap]]. And after the reveal that the movie is a prequel, they could be looked at as prototypes for what chronologically followed.
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* Several of the traps carry similarities to others from earlier in the franchise; the bucket-head one in particular is similar to the first one the [[Film/SawV Fatal Five]] go through, and Ryan and Anna's final test is somewhat similar to [[Film/Saw1 [[Film/SawI the bathroom trap]]. And after the reveal that the movie is a prequel, they could be looked at as prototypes for what chronologically followed.
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* Several of the traps carry similarities to others from earlier in the franchise; the bucket-head one in particular is similar to the first one the [[Film/SawV Fatal Five]] go through, and Ryan and Anna's final test is somewhat similar to [[Film/{{Saw}} the bathroom trap]]. And after the reveal that the movie is a prequel, they could be looked at as prototypes for what chronologically followed.
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* Several of the traps carry similarities to others from earlier in the franchise; the bucket-head one in particular is similar to the first one the [[Film/SawV Fatal Five]] go through, and Ryan and Anna's final test is somewhat similar to [[Film/{{Saw}} [[Film/Saw1 the bathroom trap]]. And after the reveal that the movie is a prequel, they could be looked at as prototypes for what chronologically followed.
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** It could be considered in-univers EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. This being his first trap, John is still figuring things out and trying. Maybe the more demonic puppet seemed a cool idea, but he found out a more subdued version was more his style.
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** It could be considered in-univers in-universe EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. This being his first trap, full-fledged series of traps, John is still figuring things out and trying. Maybe the more demonic puppet seemed a cool idea, but he found out a more subdued version was more his style.
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** It could be considered in-univers EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. This being his first trap, John is still figuring things out and trying. Maybe the more demonic puppet seemed a cool idea, but he found out a more subdued version was more his style.
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** At the Grain Silo, though, the television and the first group are clearly seen in the same frame on certain shots, so I doubt this.
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** At the Grain Silo, though, the television and the first group group's victims are clearly seen in the same frame on certain shots, so I doubt this.
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** At the Grain Silo, though, the television and the first group are clearly seen in the same frame on certain shots, so I doubt this.
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* Both Logan and Keith served in Iraq, where Logan was captured and subjected to brutal interrogation, leading to his discharge. While this would be a simple thing to accept, given that the American occupation of Iraq lasted eight years, Logan specifically says that he came out of the war a broken man "ten years ago," and that Jigsaw put his life together again. This suggests the two were part of the initial invasion, which actually matches up well with the real-world dates (The Invasion of Iraq began in March 2003, while the first Saw was released in October 2004), potentially justifying Logan and John crossing paths shortly after the former was discharged.
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* When choosing to kidnap Anna for his first game, John may not have only chosen her for causing the deaths of her baby and her husband. When testing Anna and Ryan, John mentions that the death of a child is one of life's greatest burdens. As shown in ''Film/SawIV'', John suffered the loss of his unborn son Gideon when Cecil carelessly slammed a doorknob on John's wife’s stomach. John may have felt that it was really unfair that someone honest and good like him was denied being a parent whereas Anna, who had a nice house and family, threw all that away in a fit of rage.
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* When choosing to kidnap Anna for his first game, John may not have only chosen her for causing the deaths of her baby and her husband. When testing Anna and Ryan, John mentions that the death of a child is one of life's greatest burdens. As shown in ''Film/SawIV'', John suffered the loss of his unborn son Gideon when Cecil carelessly slammed a doorknob on John's wife’s Jill's stomach. John may have felt that it was really unfair that someone honest and good like him was denied being a parent whereas Anna, who had a nice house and family, threw all that away in a fit of rage.
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* When choosing to kidnap Anna for his first game, John may not have only chosen her for causing the deaths of her baby and her husband. When testing Anna and Ryan, John mentions that the death of a child is one of life's greatest burdens. As shown in ''Film/SawIV'', John suffered the loss of his unborn son Gideon when Cecil Fletcher carelessly slammed a doorknob on John's wife’s stomach. John may have felt that it was really unfair that someone honest and good like him was denied being a parent whereas Anna, who had a nice house and family, threw all that away in a fit of rage.
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* When choosing to kidnap Anna for his first game, John may not have only chosen her for causing the deaths of her baby and her husband. When testing Anna and Ryan, John mentions that the death of a child is one of life's greatest burdens. As shown in ''Film/SawIV'', John suffered the loss of his unborn son Gideon when Cecil Fletcher carelessly slammed a doorknob on John's wife’s stomach. John may have felt that it was really unfair that someone honest and good like him was denied being a parent whereas Anna, who had a nice house and family, threw all that away in a fit of rage.
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