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* Why does Madame Zeroni curse Elya Yelnats's descendants as well as himself anyway? Seems quite the case of [[DisproportionateRetribution disproportionate retribution]] to curse an entire lineage of people whose only crime is being descended from someone who forgot to carry out his end of an agreement... at least as long as you forget the detail that when the curse was first laid out, Zeroni was helping Elya to court Myra. Had things worked out and Elya did end up with Myra but still failed to carry Zeroni up the mountain, then the curse would have been affecting the children of Elya and Myra, a marriage Zeroni had a more direct hand in creating and thus perhaps more of a reason for them to have earned her ire. [[ForWantofaNail Elya not taking the pig up the mountain just one more day changed the targets of Zeroni's curse to an otherwise innocent line of descendants.]]
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* Why does Madame Zeroni curse Elya Yelnats's descendants as well as himself anyway? Seems quite the case of [[DisproportionateRetribution disproportionate retribution]] to curse an entire lineage of people whose only crime is being descended from someone who forgot to carry out his end of an agreement... at least as long as you forget the detail that when the curse was first laid out, Zeroni was helping Elya to court Myra. Had things worked out and Elya did end up with Myra but still failed to carry Zeroni up the mountain, then the curse would have been affecting the children of Elya and Myra, a marriage Zeroni had a more direct hand in creating and thus perhaps more of a reason for them to have earned her ire. [[ForWantofaNail Elya not taking the pig up the mountain just one more day changed the targets of Zeroni's curse to an otherwise innocent line of descendants.]]
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* Why does Madame Zeroni curse Elya Yelnats's descendants as well as himself anyway? Seems quite the case of [[DisproportionateRetribution disproportionate retribution]] to curse an entire lineage of people whose only crime is being descended from someone who forgot to carry out his end of an agreement... at least as long as you forget the detail that when the curse was first laid out, Zeroni was helping Elya to court Myra. Had things worked out and Elya did end up with Myra but still failed to carry Zeroni up the mountain, then the curse would have been affecting the children of Elya and Myra, a marriage Zeroni had a more direct hand in creating and thus perhaps more of a reason for them to have earned her ire. [[ForWantofaNail Elya not taking the pig up the mountain just one more day changed the targets of Zeroni's curse to an otherwise innocent line of descendants.]]
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* So Zero's mom was having him wait in places like parks, while she would go off on her own. Does it occur to anyone else that she might have been driven to sex work out of desperation to support herself and her son, and the reason she never came back one day was because she was busted by the cops?
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* So Zero's mom was having him wait in places like parks, while she would go off on her own. Does As mentioned above, it occur to anyone else is very likely that she might was imprisoned, as she would have been driven returned for him otherwise. Zero confirmed that she was relying on theft for food as they were homeless, but sentences for theft tend to sex work out be quite lenient. But if she was imprisoned for theft, then surely she could have taken Zero with her. But instead, she would leave him in parks for the whole day. So it is very much possible that she had taken to prostitution as a way of desperation to support supporting herself and her son, and the reason it explains why she never came back would leave Zero alone. She wouldn’t want Zero to have to sit in peoples houses to hear her having sex with men entirely for financial purposes. Then, one day was because she was got busted by the cops?cops and was given a harsh sentence.
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* Kate says Trout and his descendants could spend "a century digging and never find" her treasure. The Warden almost managed to find a loophole in this, as she turned the former lake into a detention camp and had ''other people'' search for the treasure instead. Neither the Warden nor her descendants could ever find the treasure, but someone else could, which the Warden might even have been banking on. Besides, it was a much more efficient way of finding the treasure than her crazy grandfather digging randomly would be, and she made money off of it without having to do any of the work herself.
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** Sam was shot while in the boat, which was on the water. Thus the original shoreline was at the point where the ruins of ''Mary-Lou'' lie. Not too far, really.
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* So Zero's mom was having him wait in places like parks, while she would go off on her own. Does it occur to anyone else that she might have been driven to sex work out of desperation to support herself and her son, and the reason she never came back one day was because she was busted by the cops?
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* So Zero's mom was having him wait in places like parks, while she would go off on her own. Does it occur to anyone else that she might have been driven to sex work out of desperation to support herself and her son, and the reason she never came back one day was because she was busted by the cops?cops?
* Good thing Kate removed the pits from the peaches she put in jars, otherwise, when the abandoned jars [[WayPastTheExpirationDate turned into sploosh after 110 years]], the pits would also turn to mush, and thoroughly mix with the edible part. Peach pits contain ''cyanide''. So when Stanley and Hector ate them, they would have died horribly even if the jars were perfectly airtight.
* Good thing Kate removed the pits from the peaches she put in jars, otherwise, when the abandoned jars [[WayPastTheExpirationDate turned into sploosh after 110 years]], the pits would also turn to mush, and thoroughly mix with the edible part. Peach pits contain ''cyanide''. So when Stanley and Hector ate them, they would have died horribly even if the jars were perfectly airtight.
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*** Having a hard life doesn't necessarily mean they're under a curse. In the case of the Zeronis, they've been through some pretty awful years, but it's all the result of a single cause -- homelessness and general poverty. What makes Stanley's family different isn't just that they've been through hard times, it's the sheer number of ''[[CoincidenceMagnet otherwise unrelated bad things]]'' that keep happening to them.
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*** Having a hard life doesn't necessarily mean they're under a curse. In the case of the Zeronis, they've been through some pretty awful years, but it's all the result of related to a single cause -- homelessness and general poverty. (the family's extreme poverty). What makes Stanley's family different isn't just that they've been through hard times, it's the sheer number of ''[[CoincidenceMagnet otherwise unrelated unrelated]]'' bad things]]'' things that keep happening to them.
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** Also, it's not like she has any kind of preexisting relationship with either of them, she barely knows them except to say hello. From her point of view, she's being asked to choose between two strangers -- how would ''she'' know that Elya would be a better husband than Igor? It's not like she knows anything about what either of them is like as a person. As far as she knows, Elya's polished exterior could be hiding something rotten underneath; the ''reader'' knows that's not the case, but Myra doesn't. (And if it's common in that time and place for older men to marry younger women, that wouldn't be a red flag for her like it seems to be to the audience.)
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** Also, it's not like she has any kind of preexisting relationship with either of them, she barely knows them except to say hello. From her point of view, she's being asked to choose between two strangers -- how would ''she'' know that Elya would be a better husband than Igor? It's not like she knows anything about what either of them is like as a person. As far as she knows, Elya's polished exterior could be hiding something rotten underneath; the ''reader'' knows that's not the case, but Myra doesn't. (And And if it's common in that time and place for older men to marry younger women, that wouldn't be a red flag for her like either (arguably not at all, as these things are often shaped by cultural norms, and certainly not from Myra's own perspective) even if it seems to be like one to the audience.)
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** Also, it's not like she has any kind of preexisting relationship with either of them, she barely knows them except to say hello. From her point of view, she's being asked to choose between two strangers -- how would ''she'' know that Elya would be a better husband than Igor? It's not like she knows anything about what either of them is like as a person. As far as she knows, Elya's polished exterior could be hiding something rotten underneath; the ''reader'' knows that's not the case, but Myra doesn't.
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** Also, it's not like she has any kind of preexisting relationship with either of them, she barely knows them except to say hello. From her point of view, she's being asked to choose between two strangers -- how would ''she'' know that Elya would be a better husband than Igor? It's not like she knows anything about what either of them is like as a person. As far as she knows, Elya's polished exterior could be hiding something rotten underneath; the ''reader'' knows that's not the case, but Myra doesn't. (And if it's common in that time and place for older men to marry younger women, that wouldn't be a red flag for her like it seems to be to the audience.)
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* Zero's whole personality could be subject to this. He has a very specific talent (digging holes) that most people consider useless, he's unusually good at math, and he almost never speaks until Stanley becomes the first person he trusts enough to open up to him. Do any of those traits sound familiar? They should. Zero potentially has ''Asperger's syndrome.''
