History Fridge / Deltarune

* The last portion of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtP7PnyuSw4 this video]] proposes an alternate explanation for why Queen describes Noelle using phrases like "strong" or "strength" specifically-- not just as in "has a strong heart" or anything philosophical, but more like "strong" as in the Weird Route's frequent usage of "Noelle became stronger". More specifically, while players may assume that Queen tore up the opening section to Cyber City, the rest of the Cyber Field is left unharmed and pristine despite her influence and frequent assimilation of its Darkeners-- who aren't as frozen in fear as the ones in the opening, indicating that Queen doesn't typically leave a trail of destruction in her wake. It also doesn't seem like Queen and Noelle had even met until the latter's on-screen capture, it's not like Queen could have just ''known'' about a supposed inner strength when she first saw Noelle, and the Darkeners in the opening section aren't being specific as to what happened aside from being scared about what "she" can do. With all this in mind, the video theorizes that it was '''''Noelle''''' who fought her way through that area and tore it up… and to top it all off, the initial pose she's in when Kris and Susie reach her is her sitting on her knees with her face obscured, which isn't unlike the pose she makes when she [[PowerIncontinence blacks out]] after casting [=SnowGrave=] in the Weird Route…

* As one redditor pointed out, remember how the save file had Kris' name instead of the player's? If you decide to play Chapter 2 without loading Chapter 1 save data, it will play as if you made very specific decisions in Chapter 1, possibly indicating that those are the "canon" decisions that Kris would've made if they weren't controlled. For instance, Kris took the pacifist route, ''didn't'' meet the original Starwalker, ''didn't'' fight Jevil, ''did'' talk to Alphys after leaving the Dark World, ''did'' meet Onion, ''didn't'' talk to Noelle about Susie...

* Spamton NEO's flavor text "There is no audience" is chilling enough on its own, since it was preceded by several lines describing Spamton desperately appealing to the audience. However, it only gets worse when you remember one of these lines describes Spamton ''praying'' to the audience, as if they were some sort of deity, which turns the meaning of this line into "[[DespairEventHorizon There is no god]]"

* Spamton NEO's flavor text "There is no audience" is chilling enough on its own, since it precedes several lines describing Spamton desperately appealing to the audience. However, it only gets worse when you remember one of these lines describes Spamton ''praying'' to the audience, as if they were some sort of deity, which turns the meaning of this line into "[[DespairEventHorizon There is no god]]"

** I always figured he was one of those giant things that the roaring would unleash, who escaped by losing some of his body and power. He would most likely reign supreme as a hero to the other giants.

* There's a lot of speculation about how the consequences of Weird Route are supposed to fit the game's maxim that "your choices don't matter". Here's one dark possibility: maybe the choice is moot because ''all the damage you can cause in the Weird Route is destined to occur in later chapters anyway''.

* As you can read above, there's a lot of speculation about how the consequences of Weird Route are supposed to fit the game's maxim that "your choices don't matter", but here's another dark possibility: maybe the choice is moot because ''all the damage you can cause in the Weird Route is destined to occur in later chapters anyway''.

* Another thing relating to the general "choices don't matter" theme going on: when you die, instead of simply dropping you back at the SAVE point like in ''Undertale'', in ''Deltarune'', you go from when you last saved with anything since that save never happening; what you did before you died didn't matter, so why keep it?

* A bit of Horror and Brilliance. The bead maze table in the hospital during Chapter 1 seems to reference the fact that this game is fairly railroaded and put on a preset ending. Yet, do a Weird Route in Chapter 2 and Kris will notice that someone ripped off the blue bead from its track — symbolizing how you changed fate, but broke something in the process. What's worse, bead mazes often have beads of four or five different colors. Perhaps future chapters will include the possibility to trigger three more "weird routes", or more deaths?

* You can lose to Berdly, ''twice''. Here is the thing: he claims that he is beating Kris into submission and "freeing" Noelle. Instead, he accidentally kills you both. Berdly doesn't want Noelle dead. How is his reaction when she stops moving?

* A meta example that bodes ill for future events in the game: there's a [[https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/430416952285077504 little-known Toby Fox tweet from 2014]] in which he states that he had an idea for a game (explicitly stated not to be ''Undertale'') for over 2 years, but that he learned someone else was going to make a game very, very similar to it. The game he had an idea about is almost certainly ''Deltarune'', due to Toby coming up with it in 2012, 2 years prior to this tweet. But what's the game very similar to it? Well, given Toby's close relationship with its creator and the fact that it was first announced a couple months after this tweet, there's a very good chance that the "similar game" was none other than ''VideoGame/{{Omori}}''. And given how disturbing ''Omori'' gets later on, unless Toby changed his mind about ''Deltarune'''s story, get ready for the future chapters to get ''very'' dark.

* A meta example that bodes ill for future events in the game: there's a [[https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/430416952285077504 little-known Toby Fox tweet from 2014]] in which he states that he had an idea for a game (explicitly stated not to be ''Undertale'') for over 2 years, but that he learned someone else was going to make a game very, very similar to it. The game he had an idea about is almost certainly ''Deltarune'', due to Toby coming up with it in 2012, 2 years prior to this tweet. But what's the game very similar to it? Well, given Toby's close relationship with its creator and the fact that it was first announced a couple months after this tweet, there's a very good chance that the "similar game" was none other than ''VideoGame/Omori''. And given how disturbing ''Omori'' gets later on, unless Toby changed his mind about ''Deltarune'''s story, get ready for the future chapters to get ''very'' dark.

* Spamton giving Kris the chance to be a [=[[=]BIG SHOT!!![=]]=] may be a form of PsychologicalProjection. After beating Spamton NEO as the SuperBoss, the other salesmen explain his backstory: Spamton himself started as a nobody of a salesman, until one day he met a mysterious benefactor who turned out to be ''his own'' chance to be the [=[[=]BIG SHOT!!![=]]=] he always wanted to be. He took it and [[RagsToRiches became a successful big shot]] at Queen's mansion… but [[LonelyAtTheTop at the cost of his friends]], and [[RichesToRags it didn't last forever]]. Even his initial offer to Kris hints at this projection, mentioning abandonment by friends and sales going down the drain.

* If you try to interact with Spamton in the basement on the Weird Route, he says "IT'S NOT MY JOB TO BE SOME KIDS' [Extra Boss]!". By the time you reach this point, you've come too far and you can't stop the Weird Route. Spamton can't be an [[SuperBoss Extra Boss]] anymore; right now, he's the FinalBoss.

* Spamton giving Kris the chance to be a [=[[=]BIG SHOT!!![=]]=] may be a form of PsychologicalProjection. After beating Spamton NEO as the BonusBoss, the other salesmen explain his backstory: Spamton himself started as a nobody of a salesman, until one day he met a mysterious benefactor who turned out to be ''his own'' chance to be the [=[[=]BIG SHOT!!![=]]=] he always wanted to be. He took it and [[RagsToRiches became a successful big shot]] at Queen's mansion… but [[LonelyAtTheTop at the cost of his friends]], and [[RichesToRags it didn't last forever]]. Even his initial offer to Kris hints at this projection, mentioning abandonment by friends and sales going down the drain.

* If you try to interact with Spamton in the basement on the Weird Route, he says "IT'S NOT MY JOB TO BE SOME KIDS' [Extra Boss]!". By the time you reach this point, you've come too far and you can't stop the Weird Route. Spamton can't be an [[BonusBoss Extra Boss]] anymore; right now, he's the FinalBoss.

* Following the ChessMotifs, Kris is clearly the Pawn, since, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin they're the player's pawn]]. But what are the characteristics of a Pawn? Once they [[TheStinger reach the end of the board]], they can be [[CreateYourOwnVillain promoted]] into many pieces — for example, a [[AmbiguouslyEvil Knight]] — and while still a pawn, [[YouCantFightFate the only way they can move]] is to [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Pro]][[ArcWords ce]][[{{Gaslighting}} ed]] straight forward, unless they are moving to [[EarnYourBadEnding take another piece]] (in which case they move [[ScrewDestiny diagonally forward]]). Also, the [[FirstEpisodeTwist first move]] of a chess game can only be [[EpilepticTrees one of two options]]: [[RedHerring the pawn]] or [[EvilAllAlong the knight]].

* A minor one, Susie often mentions that she's feeling hungry despite getting something to eat now and then during the journey. This might be because she likely grew up on the surface and is used to "human food" alongside monster food. Eating only monster food that is almost entirely made of magic simply isn't as filling.

* "Your choices are meaningless"… except why is there a Genocide Route in chapter 2? Simple, it's not ''your'' choices that cause it to happen, it's not Kris working as the player's proxy to get onto that path and throw off the flow of the story, it's Noelle's choices at the player's urging, using manipulative tactics and feeding her LOVE so that she's the one that rips things OffTheRails while you follow behind her to see what happens. Your choices don't matter… but that doesn't mean you can't make others who ''do'' have the agency you've been denied make unexpected choices that you follow in the trail of.
* Spamton giving Kris the chance to be a [=[[=]BIG SHOT!!![=]]=] may be a form of PsychologicalProjection. After beating Spamton NEO as the BonusBoss, the other salesmen explain his backstory: Spamton himself started as a nobody of a salesman, until one day he met a mysterious benefactor who turned out to be ''his own'' chance to be the [=[[=]BIG SHOT!!![=]]=] he always wanted to be. He took it and [[RagsToRiches became a successful big shot]] at Queen's mansion... but [[LonelyAtTheTop at the cost of his friends]], and [[RichesToRags it didn't last forever]]. Even his initial offer to Kris hints at this projection, mentioning abandonment by friends and sales going down the drain.
* The [[RunningGag usual]] "smells like [x]" gag for Berdly states that it "Smells like frozen chicken." However, Berdly uses ''[[BlowYouAway wind]]'' magic in the Dark World, not [[AnIcePerson ice,]] so this wouldn't make sense at first. However, consider who ''does'' use ice magic; Noelle. Noelle is [[BehindEveryGreatMan the real brains]] between Berdly and herself since the former is only regarded as an InsufferableGenius by everyone else because he won against Noelle in a spelling bee and also studies with her.

* One minor RunningGag throughout Chapter 2 is Berdly not having nipples. This may seem like just another way to cement his ButtMonkey status, but remember that he's an anthropomorphic bird monster. Of course, he wouldn't have the nipples only mammals evolved.
* One of the plugboys mentions they love digital cats. While at first this seems like nothing but a reference to cat meme videos online, it actually has relevance. He's talking about the Tasques.

*** Alternatively, Spamton could be based on a spambot, a program that can act independently at first glance, but is still heavily reliant on outside forces and more specifically, outside approval. Spamton is forceful in his advances, but even with his NEO body he in the end cannot force Kris to do anything, something he even acknowledges if you get far enough in his boss fight. His entire plan hinges on Kris accepting his "deals" and cooperating until the end. The second Kris throws up some resistance, Spamton's whole plan fails.

** For Kris, Ralsei Tea heals them for 60 HP, Noelle Tea heals them for 70 HP, and Susie Tea heals them for 120 HP. Ralsei's a sweet guy, but Kris met him literally yesterday and might bring up bittersweet memories of their brother. Noelle has known Kris since they were kids, but something happened in their past that caused the two of them to grow distant from each other. Kris has only been friends with Susie for a day, but Susie has also put her life on the line for Kris, and before that Kris jumped to her defense with no input from the player, so they obviously care about her a lot.
** For Susie, everyone's tea heals her for 120 HP. No matter how much bravado she puts up about being a mean tough girl, she really cares about all of her friends because she hasn't really had any before.

*** Concerning the Kris Tea, Noelle comments it has a notable aftertaste. Among the party members, Noelle has known Kris the longest as they are childhood friends, so she would notice things about Kris's behavior that Susie or Ralsei would not. This aftertaste may well be her subconsciously noting that something is wrong with Kris and considering Kris is being controlled by the Soul and perhaps something else, her intuition is not wrong in the slightest.

* With Chapter 2's 1.6 Update, using the left-in exploit for the Spamton NEO fights to instantly fire a [[ChargedAttack Big Shot]] causes him to become [[TurnsRed increasingly]] [[HighPressureEmotion pissed off.]] However, this makes sense in-character as opposed to just being the game [[NoFairCheating punishing you for trying to get cute with it]]: Spamton gave and lost everything in his pursuit to become a big shot, and Kris is using an exploit to get "Big Shots" risk-free right in front of him. In other words, Kris is cheating their way to Spamton's symbolic goal right in his face and doing so liberally. No ''wonder'' Spamton loses his shit at this.

* Following the ChessMotifs, Kris is clearly the Pawn, since, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin they're the player's pawn]]. But what are the characteristics of a Pawn? Once they [[TheStinger reach the end of the board]], they can be [[CreateYourOwnVillain promoted]] into many pieces — for example, a [[AmbiguouslyEvil Knight]] — and while still a pawn, [[YouCantFightFate the only way they can move]] is to [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Pro]][[ArcWords ce]][[{{Gaslighting}} ed]] straight forward, unless they are moving to [[EarnYourBadEnding take another piece]] (in which case they move diagonally forward). Also, the [[FirstEpisodeTwist first move]] of a chess game can only be [[EpilepticTrees one of two options]]: [[RedHerring the pawn]] or [[EvilAllAlong the knight]].

* Kris creates Dark Fountains, either as the Roaring Knight or a equal and opposite force. They also have a close connection to Christmas through both their friendship with Noelle and their name (Kris- Christ/Christmas). Finally, they rarely speak, and when the do, we, the player, don't hear it. Another name we could give Kris is the [[StealthPun Silent Knight]]!

** Potentially an allusion to the end of Chapter 1, where thanks to Ralsei being tricked by the King, they have all accepted that sometimes violence is necessary against certain people. Cue Chapter 2, where you ''must'' fight the Queen in her giant mech form. Remember, LV stands for Level of Violence...

** This, however, only seems to apply to the Dark World since if you check Kris's stats in Hometown, their LV is 1, so it is also likely that the Dark World LV represents something else while the Light World LV follows more closely to ''Undertale''[='=]s rules.

* Chapter 2 shows you don't need a physical body to become a part of a Dark World, Spamton, Swatch, Tasque Manager, and a ton of basic enemies were completely digital on a computer. Seems cool, until you realize the new Dark World was made in a room where a television was playing monster movies for several hours...