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*** Or he just didn't care.care.
*Why is it that over the course of twelve and a half millennia, none of the seven hosts involved had even considered an option to take on [[BigBad Vlitra]] other than sacrificing trillions of innocents?

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* Chakravartin says that everything that he has done (making the Gohma, giving the Gods the ideas for defeating it, etc.) was to choose his heir so that he can go on and find other worlds for his guidance. What if he has done it before, and Earth is merely the latest planet he's pulled his plan on?

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* Chakravartin says that everything that he has done (making the Gohma, giving the Gods the ideas for defeating it, etc.) was to choose his heir so that he can go on and find other worlds for his guidance. What if he has done it before, and Earth Gaea is merely the latest planet he's pulled his plan on?


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*** It's more frightening when considering just how deaths that his cycle brings. At the moment all you think is him destroying the planet and the deaths from that, but then stop to consider, all the humans, or whatever lifeforms exist, killed by whatever monster he created over that period as well, which is likely beyond count since the Seven Deities state that up to the point before Vlitra's return they had seven trillion souls, but that only counts the number they had then and hadn't already used, and the number that they weren't able to keep out of the Ghoma's hands. Chakravartin not getting the results he wants implies that in the past, his menace wiped out all life on the planet in those cases, and his BringIt line to Asura hints that even if someone could stop the thing they only ended up getting killed by him.
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* Why do the Gohma have gold blood (and turn gold as their corpses disappear) despite their colors for everything else being black and red? [[spoiler:Because they aren't actually the creations of Gaea-they're Chakravartin's, and his power is predominantly gold-colored when he uses it. As the Gohma die, the magic making them up returns to it's original form.]]
* Asura's personality becomes somewhat more balanced after [[spoiler: having the Karma Fortress Mantra Reactor implanted because it exposes him to non-Wrath Mantra.]]

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* Why do the Gohma have gold blood (and turn gold as their corpses disappear) despite their colors for everything else being black and red? [[spoiler:Because they aren't actually the creations of Gaea-they're Gaea -- they're Chakravartin's, and his power is predominantly gold-colored when he uses it. As the Gohma die, the magic making them up returns to it's its original form.]]
* Asura's personality becomes somewhat more balanced after [[spoiler: having [[spoiler:having the Karma Fortress Mantra Reactor implanted because it exposes him to non-Wrath Mantra.]]



* When Asura and Yasha fight in Episode 21, Yasha is ''insanely'' powerful, despite [[spoiler: ripping out his own Mantra Reactor and giving it to Asura]]. How did he become that powerful? His Mantra affinity is Melancholy. [[spoiler: He's dying, and he knows it, so he's at his most melancholy in the entire game]]. It's no coincidence that when he's finally satisfied and smiling, that [[spoiler: this is the moment he dies]].
* During a flashback, Asura is shown saying that [[spoiler: he has no idea what to do when his daughter cries, except to punch the face of who or whatever is causing her to cry.]] At the end of the game, what is he doing? [[spoiler: REPEATEDLY PUNCHING GOD IN THE FACE.]]
* Fridge Sadness or Heartwarming, perhaps? [[spoiler: During the opening of the final episode, Asura commandeers a Shinkoku battleship to soar into space to challenge Chakravartin. These battleships have been shown to require a sizable demigod crew, and Asura doesn't have his own unique craft or any known servants. In other words, it's implied that the leaderless remnants of the Shinkoku demigod armies are rallying behind Asura for one last defense of their beloved home - and consider Asura's battle strategy more or less entails catching Chakravartin's first attack head-on, they probably knew that it was a suicide mission, but did it anyways.]]
* It seems strange that the world would be [[spoiler: governed by eight mantras that are all largely negative emotions. Until you remember that in HinduMythology, the Asura race were the embodiment of all of negative emotions. It's the Devas, who are above the Asura, who get to embody positive emotions.]]
* Asura and Augus both have blank white eyes. In Augus' case, it's because he's blind, unlike Asura who can see perfectly. This doesn't make sense, until you realize that Asura, in a way, is also blind. To be precise, he's blinded by rage.
* So, why do the humans not have subtitles to tell the player what they're saying? Because Asura doesn't know what they're saying. After 12,000 years, the language has changed to the point that he has know idea what they're saying, and neither does the player by extension.

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* When Asura and Yasha fight in Episode 21, Yasha is ''insanely'' powerful, despite [[spoiler: ripping [[spoiler:ripping out his own Mantra Reactor and giving it to Asura]]. How did he become that powerful? His Mantra affinity is Melancholy. [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's dying, and he knows it, so he's at his most melancholy in the entire game]]. It's no coincidence that when he's finally satisfied and smiling, that [[spoiler: this [[spoiler:this is the moment he dies]].
* During a flashback, Asura is shown saying that [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he has no idea what to do when his daughter cries, except to punch the face of who or whatever is causing her to cry.]] At the end of the game, what is he doing? [[spoiler: REPEATEDLY [[spoiler:REPEATEDLY PUNCHING GOD IN THE FACE.]]
* Fridge Sadness or Heartwarming, perhaps? [[spoiler: During [[spoiler:During the opening of the final episode, Asura commandeers a Shinkoku battleship to soar into space to challenge Chakravartin. These battleships have been shown to require a sizable demigod crew, and Asura doesn't have his own unique craft or any known servants. In other words, it's implied that the leaderless remnants of the Shinkoku demigod armies are rallying behind Asura for one last defense of their beloved home - and consider Asura's battle strategy more or less entails catching Chakravartin's first attack head-on, they probably knew that it was a suicide mission, but did it anyways.]]
* It seems strange that the world would be [[spoiler: governed [[spoiler:governed by eight mantras that are all largely negative emotions. Until you remember that in HinduMythology, the Asura race were the embodiment of all of negative emotions. It's the Devas, who are above the Asura, who get to embody positive emotions.]]
* Asura and Augus both have blank white eyes. In Augus' case, it's because he's blind, unlike Asura Asura, who can see perfectly. This doesn't make sense, until you realize that Asura, in a way, is also blind. To be precise, he's blinded by rage.
* So, why do the humans not have subtitles to tell the player what they're saying? Because Asura doesn't know what they're saying. After 12,000 years, the language has changed to the point that he has know no idea what they're saying, and neither does the player by extension.



* According to some of Asura's line to the Golden Spider this doesn't seem to be the first time he [[spoiler: entered his Berserker form.]] Then what the hell drove him over the edge in the past?

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* According to some of Asura's line lines to the Golden Spider this doesn't seem to be the first time he [[spoiler: entered [[spoiler:entered his Berserker form.]] Then what the hell drove him over the edge in the past?



*** We don't know that for sure, but we do here him say that he was destroyed and reset the planet when the results don't satisfy him. Do we even want imagine how many times he's done that, given that he's shown he'll do it as many times as he feels necessary and he has the patience to wait thousands of years. It's a terrifying thought.

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*** We don't know that for sure, but we do here hear him say that he was has destroyed and reset the planet when the results don't satisfy him. Do we even want to imagine how many times he's done that, given that he's that? He's shown he'll do it as many times as he feels necessary and he has the patience to wait thousands of years. It's a terrifying thought.



*** They maybe used Augus Septentrion ship. Considering it lies crashed on the moon in the lost episode 2 the landing probably wasn't very soft. Probably because Augus was blind.

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*** They maybe used Augus Augus's Septentrion ship. Considering it lies crashed on the moon in the lost episode 2 2, the landing probably wasn't very soft. Probably because Augus was blind.

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* To some, Deus' [[FightingWithChucks weapon of choice might seem a bit odd]], but that's until you realise that they are based of the Vajra which can mean [[ShockAndAwe thunderbolt]].

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* To some, Deus' [[FightingWithChucks weapon of choice choice]] might seem a bit odd]], odd, but that's until you realise that they are based of the Vajra which can mean [[ShockAndAwe thunderbolt]].



*** Then it starts entering FridgeHorror territory. [[spoiler:Could it be that Vlitra used to be a Guardigan General that used the Wrath mantra prior to Asura and lost himself to his wrath but never got out of it, and in the end becoming the Golden Spiders pawn?]]

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*** Then it starts entering FridgeHorror territory. [[spoiler:Could it be that Vlitra used to be a Guardigan Guardian General that used the Wrath mantra prior to Asura and lost himself to his wrath but never got out of it, and in the end becoming the Golden Spiders pawn?]]



* Why is Asura so much weaker than the Seven Deities until he gets really fucking pissed enough to trigger a burst and then knock them apart with a few punches? Because unlike everyone else in the Seven (save Augus, possibly) he ''never received a Mantra reactor'' when the Seven ascended. This isn't apparent until the DLC, where Yasha opens Asura's chest to reveal that he doesn't have a reactor, whereas Yasha does. That's why every battle Asura is involved in is an uphill struggle; until he gets angry enough that his Affinity for Wrath lets him draw on enough power to match his opponent, he's just not able to fight them evenly.

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* Why is Asura so much weaker than the Seven Deities until he gets really fucking pissed enough to trigger a burst and then knock them apart with a few punches? Because unlike everyone else in the Seven (save Augus, possibly) he ''never received a Mantra reactor'' when the Seven ascended. This isn't apparent until the DLC, where Yasha opens Asura's chest to reveal that he doesn't have a reactor, whereas Yasha does. That's why every battle Asura is involved in is an uphill struggle; until he gets angry enough that his Affinity for Wrath lets him draw on enough power to match his opponent, he's just not able to fight them evenly.



* Drawing on the above, how are Asura and Yasha able to defeat Deus despite his overwhelming power? Deus' Mantra Affinity is Pride. By constantly and continuously hitting him over and over, they keep ''wounding his pride'' and thus reducing how much Mantra he can pull. That's why Yasha has such a hard time against Deus in Episode 15.5, because Deus was still extremely powerful and thus Yasha's attacks did nothing, fueling his pride and making him even stronger.

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* Drawing on the above, how are Asura and Yasha able to defeat Deus despite his overwhelming power? Deus' Mantra Affinity is Pride. By constantly and continuously hitting him over and over, they keep ''wounding his pride'' and thus reducing how much Mantra he can pull. That's why Yasha has such a hard time against Deus in Episode 15.5, because Deus was still extremely powerful and thus Yasha's attacks did nothing, fueling his pride and making him even stronger.
* When Asura completely loses it and becomes Wrath Asura, Yasha is able to get through to him, even though he has to beat the crap out of him to do it. Why? Because Yasha's Mantra affinity is Melancholy (read: Sadness). Rage is basically sadness at a much higher heat, so it makes sense that Yasha should be able to reach Asura in the state he's in; after all, they're both bitter over the state of the world and grieving for the same people.



* Chakravartin says that everything that he has done (making the Gohma, giving the Gods the ideas for defeating it, etc.) was to chose his heir so that he can go on and find other worlds for his guidance. What if he has done it before, and Earth is merely the latest planet he's pulled his plan on?

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* Chakravartin says that everything that he has done (making the Gohma, giving the Gods the ideas for defeating it, etc.) was to chose choose his heir so that he can go on and find other worlds for his guidance. What if he has done it before, and Earth is merely the latest planet he's pulled his plan on?



* Speaking of Augus, how in the world does he fight so well if he's blind?

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* Speaking of Augus, how in the world does he fight so well if he's blind?blind?
** Because he's just that awesome.



** Strada and Durga are non-combat demigods. They only have extended lifespans. They don't use Mantra much at all, so their blood isn't orange from saturated Mantra.

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** Strada and Durga are non-combat demigods. They only have extended lifespans. They don't use Mantra much at all, so their blood isn't orange from saturated Mantra.Mantra saturation.
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* Speaking of Augus, how in the world does he fight so well if he's blind?
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* So, why do the humans not have subtitles to tell the player what they're saying? Because Asura doesn't know what they're saying. After 12,000 years, the language has changed to the point that he has know idea what they're saying, and neither does the player by extension.
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** The first thing someone thinks of when they see a statue of someone famous who looks like them is not "Holy shit that guy is me!" It is usually "That statue looks kind of like me. That's funny."

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** The first thing someone thinks of when they see a statue of someone famous who looks like them is not "Holy shit that guy is me!" It is usually "That statue looks kind of like me. That's funny.""
*** Or he just didn't care.
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** [[spoiler:And the moment he does the first/only thing he does is kill The Creator. That is one hell of a power up.]]
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* Asura and Augus both have blank white eyes. In Augus' case, it's because he's blind, unlike Asura who can see perfectly. This doesn't make sense, until you realize that Asura, in a way, is also blind. To be precise, he's blinded with wrath.

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* Asura and Augus both have blank white eyes. In Augus' case, it's because he's blind, unlike Asura who can see perfectly. This doesn't make sense, until you realize that Asura, in a way, is also blind. To be precise, he's blinded with wrath.
by rage.
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* It seems strange that the world would be [[spoiler: governed by eight mantras that are all largely negative emotions. Until you remember that in HinduMythology, the Asura race were the embodiment of all of negative emotions. It's the Devas, who are above the Asura, who get to embody positive emotions.]]

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* It seems strange that the world would be [[spoiler: governed by eight mantras that are all largely negative emotions. Until you remember that in HinduMythology, the Asura race were the embodiment of all of negative emotions. It's the Devas, who are above the Asura, who get to embody positive emotions.]]
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* Asura and Augus both have blank white eyes. In Augus' case, it's because he's blind, unlike Asura who can see perfectly. This doesn't make sense, until you realize that Asura, in a way, is also blind. To be precise, he's blinded with wrath.
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*** Considering that Asura can punch Ryu to the moon with little effort, there's not really any additional elaboration necessary.
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* It seems strange that the world would be [[spoiler: governed by eight mantras that are all largely negative emotions. Until you remember that in HinduMythology, the Asura race were the embodiment of all of negative emotions. It's the Devas, who are above the Asura, who get to embody positive emotions.]]
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* Fridge Sadness or Heartwarming, perhaps? During the opening of the final episode, Asura commandeers a Shinkoku battleship to soar into space to challenge Chakravartin. These battleships have been shown to require a sizable demigod crew, and Asura doesn't have his own unique craft or any known servants. In other words, it's implied that the leaderless remnants of the Shinkoku demigod armies are rallying behind Asura for one last defense of their beloved home - and consider Asura's battle strategy more or less entails catching Chakravartin's first attack head-on, they probably knew that it was a suicide mission.

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* Fridge Sadness or Heartwarming, perhaps? [[spoiler: During the opening of the final episode, Asura commandeers a Shinkoku battleship to soar into space to challenge Chakravartin. These battleships have been shown to require a sizable demigod crew, and Asura doesn't have his own unique craft or any known servants. In other words, it's implied that the leaderless remnants of the Shinkoku demigod armies are rallying behind Asura for one last defense of their beloved home - and consider Asura's battle strategy more or less entails catching Chakravartin's first attack head-on, they probably knew that it was a suicide mission.
mission, but did it anyways.]]
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* Fridge Sadness or Heartwarming, perhaps? During the opening of the final episode, Asura commandeers a Shinkoku battleship to soar into space to challenge Chakravartin. These battleships have been shown to require a sizable demigod crew, and Asura doesn't have his own unique craft or any known servants. In other words, it's implied that the leaderless remnants of the Shinkoku demigod armies are rallying behind Asura for one last defense of their beloved home - and consider Asura's battle strategy more or less entails catching Chakravartin's first attack head-on, they probably knew that it was a suicide mission.
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* During a flashback, Asura is shown saying that [[spoiler: he has no idea what to do when his daughter cries, except to punch the face of who or whatever is causing her to cry.]] At the end of the game, what is he doing? [[spoiler: REPEATEDLY PUNCHING GOD IN THE FACE.]]
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Finished counting the arms and I was all like \"Cyber Connect 2 you clever bastards!\"

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*Speaking of [[spoiler:Chakravartin, the self-styled "Spinner of All Mantra" and named by his debut episode as "the One Behind the Curtain". If you look closely, either in game or at his artwork, he has exactly 22 arms.]]The game, including all four main parts (and excluding the animated and Street Fighter DLC), has exactly 22 episodes. [[spoiler:Chakravartin, the one behind the curtain, quite literally has a hand in everything that you do in this game]]

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* According to some of Asura's line to the Golden Spider this does'nt seem to be the first time he [[spoiler: entered his Berserker form.]] Then what the hell drove him over the edge in the past?

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* According to some of Asura's line to the Golden Spider this does'nt doesn't seem to be the first time he [[spoiler: entered his Berserker form.]] Then what the hell drove him over the edge in the past?


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*** We don't know that for sure, but we do here him say that he was destroyed and reset the planet when the results don't satisfy him. Do we even want imagine how many times he's done that, given that he's shown he'll do it as many times as he feels necessary and he has the patience to wait thousands of years. It's a terrifying thought.
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* Chakravartin says that everything that he has done (making the Gohma, giving the Gods the ideas for defeating it, etc.) was to chose his heir so that he can go on and find other worlds for his guidance. What if he has done it before, and Earth is merely the latest planet he's pulled his plan on?
** Does this mean that there are others that are of similar power that decided to go on and find heirs so that they could continue the cycle?
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* When Asura and Yasha fight in Episode 21, Yasha is ''insanely'' powerful, despite [[spoiler: ripping out his own Mantra Reactor and giving it to Asura]]. How did he become that powerful? His Mantra affinity is Melancholy. [[spoiler: He's dying, and he knows it, so he's at his most melancholy in the entire game]]. It's no coincidence that when he's finally satisfied and smiling, that [[spoiler: this is the moment he dies]].

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** Strada and Durga are non-combat demigods. They only have extended lifespans. They don't use Mantra much at all, so their blood isn't orange from saturated Mantra.
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*** They maybee used Augus Septentrion ship. Considering it lies crashed on the moon in the lost episode 2 the landing probably wasn't wery soft. Probably because Augus was blind.

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*** They maybee maybe used Augus Septentrion ship. Considering it lies crashed on the moon in the lost episode 2 the landing probably wasn't wery very soft. Probably because Augus was blind.
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* Why did [[spoiler:Chakravartin loose to Asura when he is described as omnipotent? He is The Creator, he only sucks at destroying.]]

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* Why did [[spoiler:Chakravartin loose lose to Asura when he is described as omnipotent? He is The Creator, he only sucks at destroying.]]
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* The similarities between [[spoiler: Berserker Asura and Vlithra's Core]] seem to just make the latter a MirrorBoss. But then you remember [[spoiler: that Vlitra is [[GaiasVengeance the will of the planet driven made by rage at Humanity and Demigods]], and Asura's Mantra affinity is '''Wrath'''. They possess similar forms because they share the same mantra affinity: Wrath.]]

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* The similarities between [[spoiler: Berserker Asura and Vlithra's Core]] seem to just make the latter a MirrorBoss. But then you remember [[spoiler: that Vlitra is [[GaiasVengeance the will of the planet driven made mad by rage at Humanity and Demigods]], and Asura's Mantra affinity is '''Wrath'''. They possess similar forms because they share the same mantra affinity: Wrath.]]
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* Why did Emperor Strada bleed red blood if he's a demigod like the rest? Shouldn't it be glowing orange blood?

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* Why did Emperor Strada and Durga bleed red blood if he's a demigod they're demigods like the rest? Shouldn't it be glowing orange blood?
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* Why did Emperor Strada bleed red blood if he's a demigod like the rest? Shouldn't it be glowing orange blood?
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*** They maybee used Augus Septentrion ship. Considering it lies crashed on the moon in the lost episode 2 the landing probably wasn't wery soft.

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*** They maybee used Augus Septentrion ship. Considering it lies crashed on the moon in the lost episode 2 the landing probably wasn't wery soft.
soft. Probably because Augus was blind.
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* It seems funny to most people that as Asura is killing Kalrow he says "I tire of hearing about the world" when he is doing so much to protect until you realize he's not saying that he doesn't care about the world, but that he's tired of hearing the pathetic justifications that the demigods are using to explain away their cruelty to humanity.

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* It seems funny to most people that as Asura is killing Kalrow he says "I tire of hearing about the world" when he is doing so much to protect it. That is until you realize he's not saying that he doesn't care about the world, but that he's tired of hearing the pathetic justifications that the demigods are using to explain away their cruelty to humanity.
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* It seems funny to most people that as Asura is killing Kalrow he says "I tire of hearing about the world" when he is doing so much to protect until you realize he's not saying that he doesn't care about the world, but that he's tired of hearing the pathetic justifications that the demigods are using to explain away their cruelty to humanity.
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* Asura's personality becomes somewhat more balanced after [[spoiler: having the Karma Fortress Mantra Reactor implanted because it exposes him to non-Wrath Mantra.]]
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* Why do the Gohma have gold blood (and turn gold as their corpses disappear) despite their colors for everything else being black and red? [[spoiler:Because they aren't actually the creations of Gaea-they're Chakravartin's, and his power is predominantly gold-colored when he uses it. As the Gohma die, the magic making them up returns to it's original form.]]

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