Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Film / TwelveAngryMen1997

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** If you watch closely, you'll notice that by the time the jury discusses the angle of the knife wound, Juror #7 has gotten much quieter than before, and he's paying more attention. He is very quiet and attentive after that. At one point, he makes a wisecrack, but here he has a purpose: he doesn't see Juror #9's point regarding the witness's eyesight, and he wants him to get to the point. When Juror #9 makes his point, #7 is listening very closely. Finally, when the jury reaches a verdict and are preparing to leave, he tosses the baseball tickets on the table, even though he still has time to make the game; the game means nothing to him now.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ArmorPiercingQuestion: #6 asks #8 "Suppose you talk us all out of this, and the kid really ''did'' stick that knife into his father?" #8 looks in a mirror, and is clearly considering the possibility.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AdaptationalNationality: Juror #4 speaks with a noticeable German accent, implying he's an immigrant in this take.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10 is reimagined here as an AngryBlackMan who is prejudiced against Latinos. When Juror #5 (also African-American) changes his verdict to Not Guilty, #10 is quick to accuse him of selling out to the white man.

to:

* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10 is reimagined here as an AngryBlackMan AngryBlackManStereotype who is prejudiced against Latinos. When Juror #5 (also African-American) changes his verdict to Not Guilty, #10 is quick to accuse him of selling out to the white man.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Dewicked trope


* NiceHat: Juror #10 wears a kufi.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Juror #10 maintains his racist worldview become being shamed by 11 strangers who he has no connection to is unlikely to make a lasting impact on most people.

to:

* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Juror #10 maintains his racist worldview become because being shamed by 11 strangers who he has no connection to is unlikely to make a lasting impact on most people.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Juror #10 maintains his racist worldview become being shamed by 11 strangers who he has no connection to is unlikely to make a lasting impact on most people.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AngryBlackMan: Played absolutely straight with Juror #10, although he's also extremely racist towards Hispanic people.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AngryBlackMan: Played absolutely straight with Juror #10, although he's also extremely racist towards Hispanic people.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AdaptationalVillainy: Unlike in the original film, Juror #10 here feels no remorse or shame after he has exposed his racism to the other jurors. He openly states that he doesn't care about the law or the trial: he just wants to put a Hispanic kid behind bars. Afterwards, he states he couldn't care less if the kid is guilty or not. He votes not guilty just to go along. Unlike #7, who actually pulls his head out of his ass and becomes a decent juror, and #3, who is a TragicVillain, #10 has no redeeming traits. He's just a racist CardCarryingVillain.

to:

* AdaptationalVillainy: Unlike in the original film, Juror #10 here feels no remorse or shame after he has exposed his racism to the other jurors. He openly states that he doesn't care about the law or the trial: trial; he just wants to put a Hispanic kid behind bars. Afterwards, he states he couldn't care less if the kid is guilty or not. He not, and votes not guilty just to go along. Unlike #7, who actually pulls his head out of his ass and becomes a decent juror, and #3, who is a TragicVillain, #10 has no redeeming traits. He's just a racist CardCarryingVillain.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AdaptationalVillainy: Juror #10 feels no remorse or shame after he has exposed his racism to the other jurors. He openly states that he doesn't care about the law or the trial: he just wants to put a Hispanic kid behind bars. Afterwards, he states he couldn't care less if the kid is guilty or not. He votes not guilty just to go along. Unlike #7, who actually pulls his head out of his ass and becomes a decent juror, and #3, who is a TragicVillain, #10 has no redeeming traits. He's just a racist CardCarryingVillain.

to:

* AdaptationalVillainy: Unlike in the original film, Juror #10 here feels no remorse or shame after he has exposed his racism to the other jurors. He openly states that he doesn't care about the law or the trial: he just wants to put a Hispanic kid behind bars. Afterwards, he states he couldn't care less if the kid is guilty or not. He votes not guilty just to go along. Unlike #7, who actually pulls his head out of his ass and becomes a decent juror, and #3, who is a TragicVillain, #10 has no redeeming traits. He's just a racist CardCarryingVillain.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[quoteright:310:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/12_angry_men_1997.jpg]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* StoppedCaring: Juror #10 declares that he no longer cares if the boy is guilty or not after being worn out by everyone giving him the cold shoulder.

Added: 692

Changed: 518

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AdaptationalVillainy: Juror #10 feels no remorse or shame after he has exposed his racism to the other jurors. He openly states that he doesn't care about the law or the trial: he just wants to put a Hispanic kid behind bars. Afterwards, he states he couldn't care less if the kid is guilty or not. He votes not guilty just to go along. Unlike #7, who actually pulls his head out of his ass and becomes a decent juror, and #3, who is a TragicVillain, #10 has no redeeming traits. He's a CardCarryingVillain.
* HiddenDepths: It looks like [[spoiler: Juror #7 switches his vote to "Not Guilty" just to go along with the crowd and get out of there, as he did in the 1957 version.]] But when Juror #11 [[WhatTheHellHero berates him for this]] and demands he give an honest answer for [[spoiler: switching his vote, Juror #7 says, "I don't think he's guilty," [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness in a quiet, matter-of-fact voice.]] Then he looks at the tickets to the baseball game he didn't want to miss, clearly ashamed of himself.]]

to:

* AdaptationalVillainy: Juror #10 feels no remorse or shame after he has exposed his racism to the other jurors. He openly states that he doesn't care about the law or the trial: he just wants to put a Hispanic kid behind bars. Afterwards, he states he couldn't care less if the kid is guilty or not. He votes not guilty just to go along. Unlike #7, who actually pulls his head out of his ass and becomes a decent juror, and #3, who is a TragicVillain, #10 has no redeeming traits. He's just a racist CardCarryingVillain.
* GenderFlip: The judge in the original movie was a man, but this movie has a female judge.
* HiddenDepths: It looks like [[spoiler: Juror #7 switches his vote to "Not Guilty" just to go along with the crowd and get out of there, as he did in the 1957 version.]] But when Juror #11 [[WhatTheHellHero berates him for this]] and demands he give an honest answer for [[spoiler: switching his vote, Juror #7 says, "I don't think he's guilty," [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness in a quiet, matter-of-fact voice.]] voice]]. Then he looks at the tickets to the baseball game he didn't want to miss, clearly ashamed of himself.]]


Added DiffLines:

* KnowWhenToFoldEm: [[spoiler:Near the end, Juror #10 admits he still thinks the boy is guilty, but has voted not guilty because he knows the verdict he wants will never happen now.]]

Added: 758

Changed: 48

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: After Juror #6 asks Juror #8, "Suppose you talk us all out of this, and the kid really ''did'' stick that knife into his father?" Juror #8 looks in the mirror, and his expression says he knows #6 could very well be right.



* AdaptationalVillainy: Juror #10 feels no remorse or shame after he has exposed his racism to the other jurors. He openly states that he doesn't care about the law or the trial: he just wants to put a Hispanic kid behind bars. Afterwards, he states he couldn't care less if the kid is guilty or not. He votes not guilty just to go along. Unlike #7, who actually pulls his head out of his ass and becomes a decent juror, and #3, who is a TragicVillain, #10 has no redeeming traits. He's a CardCarryingVillain.



** If you watch closely, you'll notice that by the time the jury discusses the angle of the knife wound, Juror #7 has gotten much quieter than before, and he's paying more attention. He is very quiet and attentive after that. At one point, he makes a wisecrack, but here he has a purpose: he doesn't see Juror #9's point regarding the witness's eyesight, and he wants him to get to the point. When Juror #9 makes his point, #7 is listening very closely. Finally, when the jury reaches a verdict and are preparing to leave, he tosses the baseball tickets on the table; the game means nothing to him now.

to:

** If you watch closely, you'll notice that by the time the jury discusses the angle of the knife wound, Juror #7 has gotten much quieter than before, and he's paying more attention. He is very quiet and attentive after that. At one point, he makes a wisecrack, but here he has a purpose: he doesn't see Juror #9's point regarding the witness's eyesight, and he wants him to get to the point. When Juror #9 makes his point, #7 is listening very closely. Finally, when the jury reaches a verdict and are preparing to leave, he tosses the baseball tickets on the table; table, even though he still has time to make the game; the game means nothing to him now.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** If you watch closely, you'll notice that by the time the jury discusses the angle of the knife wound, Juror #7 has gotten much quieter than before, and he's paying more attention. He is very quiet and attentive after that. At one point, he makes a wisecrack, but here he has a purpose: he doesn't see Juror #9's point regarding the witness's eyesight, and he wants him to get to the point.

to:

** If you watch closely, you'll notice that by the time the jury discusses the angle of the knife wound, Juror #7 has gotten much quieter than before, and he's paying more attention. He is very quiet and attentive after that. At one point, he makes a wisecrack, but here he has a purpose: he doesn't see Juror #9's point regarding the witness's eyesight, and he wants him to get to the point. When Juror #9 makes his point, #7 is listening very closely. Finally, when the jury reaches a verdict and are preparing to leave, he tosses the baseball tickets on the table; the game means nothing to him now.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AdaptationalJobChange: Instead of owning a garage, Juror #10 owns a car wash.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** If you watch closely, you'll notice that by the time the jury discusses the angle of the knife wound, Juror #7 has gotten much quieter than before, and he's paying more attention. He is very quiet and attentive after that. At one point, he makes a wisecrack, but here he has a purpose: he doesn't see Juror #9's point regarding the witness's eyesight, and he wants him to get to the point.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HollywoodLaw: The judge in the original mentions that in the event the accused is found guilty, that it is automatically a death sentence (as it was until 1963 in New York--the film came out in 1957), and that he would not entertain any recommendations for mercy. It wasn't up to him--he had no choice about it. The judge in the remake echoes this, stating that she will not consider pleas for leniency should the jury find the defendant guilty. However, at that time, like now, the jurors decide what sentence the defendant should get too in capital cases after considering all the various aggravating vs. mitigating factors, following US Supreme Court rulings which struck down most of the capital punishment laws in the US. Without such a recommendation for death, the judge can't sentence the defendant to it. Given that change, this is nonsensical and legally meaningless (though it could mislead jurors, which thus might get any death sentence they passed overturned).

to:

* HollywoodLaw: The judge in the original mentions that in the event the accused is found guilty, that it is automatically a death sentence (as it was until 1963 in New York--the film came out in 1957), and that he would not entertain any recommendations for mercy. It wasn't up to him--he had no choice about it. The judge in the remake echoes this, stating that she will not consider pleas for leniency should the jury find the defendant guilty. However, at that time, like now, the jurors decide what sentence the defendant should get too in capital cases after considering all the various aggravating vs. mitigating factors, following US Supreme Court rulings which struck down most of the capital punishment laws in the US. Without such a recommendation for death, the judge can't sentence the defendant to it. Given that change, this is nonsensical and legally meaningless (though it could mislead jurors, which thus might get any death sentence they passed overturned). A mandatory death penalty sentence was also ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1976.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10 is reimagined here as an AngryBlackMan who is prejudiced against Latinos. When Juror #5 (also African-American) changes his verdict to Not Guikty, #10 is quick to accuse him of selling out to the white man.

to:

* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10 is reimagined here as an AngryBlackMan who is prejudiced against Latinos. When Juror #5 (also African-American) changes his verdict to Not Guikty, Guilty, #10 is quick to accuse him of selling out to the white man.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10 is reimagined here as an AngryBlackMan who is prejudiced against Latinos.

to:

* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10 is reimagined here as an AngryBlackMan who is prejudiced against Latinos. When Juror #5 (also African-American) changes his verdict to Not Guikty, #10 is quick to accuse him of selling out to the white man.



* RaceLift: The original featured 12 white men. This movie diversifies the racial makeup of the jury with one Latino juror (#11) and four African Americans (#1, #2, #5, and #10). [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]: In 1954, an all-white, all-male jury would be the norm, but in 1997 such a jury would be very unusual, given that having all the jurors be of the same race could be used as grounds for an appeal later.

to:

* RaceLift: The original featured 12 white men. This movie diversifies the racial makeup of the jury with one Latino juror (#11) and four African Americans (#1, #2, #5, and #10). Furthermore, Juror #4, while still the same race, was American in the original but German here. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]: In 1954, an all-white, all-male jury would be the norm, but in 1997 such a jury would be very unusual, given that having all the jurors be of the same race could be used as grounds for an appeal later.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Fixed zero-context example


* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10.

to:

* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10.#10 is reimagined here as an AngryBlackMan who is prejudiced against Latinos.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 [[MadeForTVMovie made-for-TV]] remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin and originally shown on Creator/{{Showtime}} television.

to:

''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 [[MadeForTVMovie made-for-TV]] remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin and originally shown on Creator/{{Showtime}} television.
Creator/{{Showtime}}.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin and originally shown on Creator/{{Showtime}} television.

to:

''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 [[MadeForTVMovie made-for-TV]] remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin and originally shown on Creator/{{Showtime}} television.

Added: 224

Changed: 231

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin. It starred Creator/GeorgeCScott as Juror #3, Creator/JamesGandolfini as Juror #6, and Creator/JackLemmon as Juror #8, the sole Not Guilty vote on the first jury poll (the role played by Creator/HenryFonda in the 1957 version).

to:

''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin. Creator/WilliamFriedkin and originally shown on Creator/{{Showtime}} television.

It starred stars Creator/GeorgeCScott as Juror #3, Creator/JamesGandolfini as Juror #6, and Creator/JackLemmon as Juror #8, the sole Not Guilty vote on the first jury poll (the role played by Creator/HenryFonda in the 1957 version).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin. It starred Creator/GeorgeCScott as Juror #3, Creator/JamesGandolfini as Juror #6, and Creator/JackLemmon as Juror #8, the sole Not Guilty vote (the role played by Creator/HenryFonda in the 1957 version).

to:

''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin. It starred Creator/GeorgeCScott as Juror #3, Creator/JamesGandolfini as Juror #6, and Creator/JackLemmon as Juror #8, the sole Not Guilty vote on the first jury poll (the role played by Creator/HenryFonda in the 1957 version).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin. It starred Creator/GeorgeCScott as Juror #3, Creator/JamesGandolfini as Juror #6, and Jack Lemmon as Juror #8, the sole Not Guilty vote (the role played by Creator/HenryFonda in the 1957 version).

to:

''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin. It starred Creator/GeorgeCScott as Juror #3, Creator/JamesGandolfini as Juror #6, and Jack Lemmon Creator/JackLemmon as Juror #8, the sole Not Guilty vote (the role played by Creator/HenryFonda in the 1957 version).

Added: 4

Changed: 235

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]].

to:

''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]].name]], directed by Creator/WilliamFriedkin. It starred Creator/GeorgeCScott as Juror #3, Creator/JamesGandolfini as Juror #6, and Jack Lemmon as Juror #8, the sole Not Guilty vote (the role played by Creator/HenryFonda in the 1957 version).

----

Added: 535

Changed: 110

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HiddenDepths: It looks like [[spoiler: Juror #7 switches his vote to "Not Guilty" just to go along with the crowd and get out of there, as he did in the 1957 version.]] But when Juror #11 [[WhatTheHellHero berates him for this]] and demands he give an honest answer for [[spoiler: switching his vote, Juror #7 says, "I don't think he's guilty," [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness in a quiet, matter-of-fact voice.]] Then he looks at the tickets to the baseball game he didn't want to miss, clearly ashamed of himself.]]



* MalcolmXerox: Juror #10.



* RaceLift: The original featured 12 white men. This movie diversifies the racial makeup of the jury with one Latino juror and four African Americans. In a twist, one of the latter is a MalcolmXerox version of the bigoted Juror #10 from the original. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]: In 1954, an all-white, all-male jury would be the norm, but in 1997 such a jury would be very unusual, given that having all the jurors be of the same race could be used as grounds for an appeal later.

to:

* RaceLift: The original featured 12 white men. This movie diversifies the racial makeup of the jury with one Latino juror (#11) and four African Americans. In a twist, one of the latter is a MalcolmXerox version of the bigoted Juror #10 from the original.Americans (#1, #2, #5, and #10). [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]: In 1954, an all-white, all-male jury would be the norm, but in 1997 such a jury would be very unusual, given that having all the jurors be of the same race could be used as grounds for an appeal later.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

''12 Angry Men'' is a 1997 remake of the 1957 [[Film/TwelveAngryMen film of the same name]].
!!Provides examples of:
* HollywoodLaw: The judge in the original mentions that in the event the accused is found guilty, that it is automatically a death sentence (as it was until 1963 in New York--the film came out in 1957), and that he would not entertain any recommendations for mercy. It wasn't up to him--he had no choice about it. The judge in the remake echoes this, stating that she will not consider pleas for leniency should the jury find the defendant guilty. However, at that time, like now, the jurors decide what sentence the defendant should get too in capital cases after considering all the various aggravating vs. mitigating factors, following US Supreme Court rulings which struck down most of the capital punishment laws in the US. Without such a recommendation for death, the judge can't sentence the defendant to it. Given that change, this is nonsensical and legally meaningless (though it could mislead jurors, which thus might get any death sentence they passed overturned).
* LargeHam: George C. Scott as Juror #3. He yells almost every other line.
* NiceHat: Juror #10 wears a kufi.
* RaceLift: The original featured 12 white men. This movie diversifies the racial makeup of the jury with one Latino juror and four African Americans. In a twist, one of the latter is a MalcolmXerox version of the bigoted Juror #10 from the original. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]: In 1954, an all-white, all-male jury would be the norm, but in 1997 such a jury would be very unusual, given that having all the jurors be of the same race could be used as grounds for an appeal later.
* RealityHasNoSoundtrack: The music plays only once during the credits.
----

Top