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* ADateWithRosiePalms: Snuffy says that the first rule of prep school etiquette is to pretend to be asleep whenever your roommate is beating off.
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* WouldHurtAChild: Cali is willing to excite some of the younger kids to punish escapes if necessary and when [[spoiler: Joey Trotta (Creator/WilWheaton)]] tries to start a rebellion among the students, the Colombians shoot him down without hesitation. Cali does try to explain that, had the boy not grabbed a submachine gun from one of the guards and threatened his people with it, Cali probably would have been content to just beat up on him some as punishment instead of shooting him. Cali doesn't help his case by claiming it was an accident.

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* WouldHurtAChild: Cali is willing to excite execute some of the younger kids to punish escapes if necessary and when [[spoiler: Joey Trotta (Creator/WilWheaton)]] tries to start a rebellion among the students, the Colombians shoot him down without hesitation. Cali does try to explain that, had the boy not grabbed a submachine gun from one of the guards and threatened his people with it, Cali probably would have been content to just beat up on him some as punishment instead of shooting him. Cali doesn't help his case by claiming it was an accident.
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** [[spoiler:Luis Cali attempts to release Joey because he respects Joey's father Albert, a mob boss. Joey despises his father and is appalled by being released while his friends remain captive, so he overcomes his guard and takes his machine gun. Joey attempts to use the gun on one of Cali's goons, but immediately loses control of the gun and is shot dead. Joey's father is (understandably) outraged his kid was shot down and doesn't believe it could be an accident and orders the assassination of Luis's father. Luis's entire goal was to free his father, so all this culminates in the Feds being forced to attempt the assault on the school. ]]

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** [[spoiler:Luis Cali attempts to release Joey because he respects Joey's father Albert, a mob boss. Joey despises his father and is appalled by being released while his friends remain captive, so he overcomes his guard and takes his machine gun. Joey attempts to use the gun on one of Cali's goons, but immediately loses control of the machine gun due to the kick and is shot dead. Joey's father is (understandably) outraged his kid was shot down and doesn't believe it could be an accident and orders the assassination of Luis's father. father in revenge. Luis's entire goal was to free his father, so all this culminates in the Feds being believe he could start killing the kids or even detonate his bombs so the Feds are forced to attempt the risky assault on the school. ]]

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: [[spoiler:Cali is killed by a random soldier instead of Billy, one of his friends, or the nearby Dean Parker in the climax. During military raids to end hostage situations, the trained professionals are far more likely to kill the hostage-takers than the hostages are, no matter how proactive they've been during their captivity and how much ItsPersonal anger the hostages may have.]]

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[[spoiler:Cali is killed by a random soldier instead of Billy, one of his friends, or the nearby Dean Parker in the climax. During military raids to end hostage situations, the trained professionals are far more likely to kill the hostage-takers than the hostages are, no matter how proactive they've been during their captivity and how much ItsPersonal anger the hostages may have.]]
** [[spoiler:Luis Cali attempts to release Joey because he respects Joey's father Albert, a mob boss. Joey despises his father and is appalled by being released while his friends remain captive, so he overcomes his guard and takes his machine gun. Joey attempts to use the gun on one of Cali's goons, but immediately loses control of the gun and is shot dead. Joey's father is (understandably) outraged his kid was shot down and doesn't believe it could be an accident and orders the assassination of Luis's father. Luis's entire goal was to free his father, so all this culminates in the Feds being forced to attempt the assault on the school.
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''Toy Soldiers'' is a film released in 1991, starring Creator/LouisGossettJr, Creator/SeanAstin, Creator/WilWheaton, and Keith Coogan.

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''Toy Soldiers'' is a film released in 1991, starring Creator/LouisGossettJr, Creator/SeanAstin, Creator/WilWheaton, and Keith Coogan.Creator/KeithCoogan.
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* RecurringExtra: A student named Robert Anderson has a few notable scenes, such as trying to call for help during the raid on the school and being identified as one of the students with a particularly rich father, but never speaks up or mingles with the main gang of kids.

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* BadassBookworm: Joey dutifully does his own homework as well as Billy's and is a skilled sketch artist, but he's also quick to advocate fighting back against the terrorists (albeit in a LeeroyJenkins way) and eventually overpowers one hostage-taker and takes his gun away.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Dean Parker and the Headmaster are both this for the school. Deputy Director Brown and General Kramer also seem like this outside the school.

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Dean Parker and the Headmaster are both this headmaster impose discipline where it's necessary but don't go for the school. maximum punishment and want to help their students rather than push them away. They also work hard to keep them calm and safe during the hostage standoff.
** General Kramer plans a successful rescue operation, cares about saving the hostages, doesn't overestimate his abilities, and isn't too proud to accept input from the information Billy smuggles out of the school.
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Deputy Director Brown is respectful to Kramer, Parker, and General Kramer also seem like this outside the school.local cops, strives to avoid unnecessary bloodshed through negotiation as well as planning the commando raid, and only argues against relying on Billy for the understandable reason that Billy is an inexperienced kid with known authority issues.

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: [[spoiler:Cali is killed by a random soldier instead of Billy or one of his friends in the climax. During military raids to end hostage situations, the trained professionals are far more likely to kill the hostage-takers than the hostages are, no matter how proactive they've been during their captivity and how much ItsPersonal anger the hostages may have.]]

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: [[spoiler:Cali is killed by a random soldier instead of Billy or Billy, one of his friends friends, or the nearby Dean Parker in the climax. During military raids to end hostage situations, the trained professionals are far more likely to kill the hostage-takers than the hostages are, no matter how proactive they've been during their captivity and how much ItsPersonal anger the hostages may have.]]



* WouldHurtAChild: When [[spoiler: Joey Trotta (Creator/WilWheaton)]] tries to start a rebellion among the students, the Colombians shoot him down without hesitation. Cali does try to explain that, had the boy not grabbed a submachine gun from one of the guards and threatened his people with it, Cali probably would have been content to just beat up on him some as punishment instead of shooting him. Cali doesn't help his case by claiming it was an accident.

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* VillainousValor: Two pairs of {{Mooks}} stand their ground and keep firing away at against dozens of special forces soldiers for some time in the climax. [[spoiler:The first pair is killed at the entrance to the administration building, while [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse it's unclear whether the second pair were killed or eventually surrendered to the troops who barge in through the outer office the goons were last seen defending.]]]]
* WouldHurtAChild: When Cali is willing to excite some of the younger kids to punish escapes if necessary and when [[spoiler: Joey Trotta (Creator/WilWheaton)]] tries to start a rebellion among the students, the Colombians shoot him down without hesitation. Cali does try to explain that, had the boy not grabbed a submachine gun from one of the guards and threatened his people with it, Cali probably would have been content to just beat up on him some as punishment instead of shooting him. Cali doesn't help his case by claiming it was an accident.
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* BadassBystander: One unnamed kid (credited as "Brave student") sprints out of the cafeteria past the cartel gunmen during the initial hostage taking and tries to get to a phone to call in what's happening before being caught.

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* BadassBystander: One unnamed kid (credited as "Brave student") student outside of Billy's gang sprints out of the cafeteria past the cartel gunmen during the initial hostage taking and tries to get to a phone to call in what's happening before being caught.



* TheDragon: Jack Thorpe.

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* TheDragon: Jack Thorpe.Thorpe is Cali's main advisor and enfrocer.



* MenOfSherwood: Barely any of the commandos who end the hostage situation at the boarding school and rescue the kids are named or get characterization, but they are responsible for [[spoiler:every fatality the villains suffer, including the BigBad]], and only lose a few of their own people. Throughout this, the main characters (the hostages) settle for [[spoiler:overpowering a few guards, disarming a booby trap, and taking cover]].

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* MenOfSherwood: Barely any of the commandos who end the hostage situation at the boarding school and rescue the kids are named or get characterization, but they are responsible for [[spoiler:every fatality the villains suffer, including the BigBad]], and only lose a few of their own people. people to one grenade. Throughout this, the main characters (the hostages) settle for [[spoiler:overpowering a few guards, disarming a booby trap, and taking cover]].cover where they can't be held hostage]].



* ProperlyParanoid: The authorities moving the son of the judge trying Cali's father out of the school and into protective custody was a far-sighted and wise precaution. Unfortunately, it isn't enough to keep Cali from holding everyone else at the school hostage.
* RaceAgainstTheClock: Billy has to get back to the school in time to make the next headcount, or five of his classmates will be executed.

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* ProperlyParanoid: The authorities moving the son of the judge trying Cali's father out of the school and into protective custody was while keeping his new location secret is a far-sighted and wise precaution. Unfortunately, it isn't enough to keep Cali from holding everyone else at the school hostage.
hostage once he finds Phil gone.
* RaceAgainstTheClock: After delivering information to the troops outside, Billy has to get back to the school in time to make the next headcount, or five of his classmates will be executed.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: [[spoiler:Cali is killed by a random soldier instead of Billy or one of his friends in the climax. During military raids to end hostage situations, the trained professionals are far more likely to kill the hostage-takers than the hostages are, no matter how proactive they've been during their captivity and how much ItsPersonal anger the hostages may have.]]
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Albert Trotta is on two scenes, giving orders to negotiate with Cali to save Joey and then ordering Enrique’s murder.


* TheGhost: All of the powerful fathers of the main characters besides Joey's father are mentioned but unseen (several parents are seen in a meeting with the authorities, who are trying to prevent them from panicking, but none of them are identified as being the parents of previously established characters). [[spoiler:Even then, Joey's dad is not seen on screen, but his influence on the events that lead to the climax make him a major ChekhovsGunman]].

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* TheGhost: All of the powerful fathers of the main characters besides Joey's father are mentioned but unseen (several parents are seen in a meeting with the authorities, who are trying to prevent them from panicking, but none of them are identified as being the parents of previously established characters). [[spoiler:Even then, Joey's dad is not seen on screen, but his influence on the events that lead to the climax make him a major ChekhovsGunman]].
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* ChekhovsGunman: Joey's dad is repeatedly mentioned to be a member of TheMafia, a source of great shame to Joey. [[spoiler:Joey is killed and Cali's father is murdered in prison several scenes later by order of Joey's dad, instigating the climactic raid]].

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* TheGhost: All of the powerful fathers of the main characters besides Joey's father are mentioned but unseen (several parents are seen in a meeting with the authorities, who are trying to prevent them from panicking, but none of them are identified as being the parents of previously established characters).

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* TheGhost: All of the powerful fathers of the main characters besides Joey's father are mentioned but unseen (several parents are seen in a meeting with the authorities, who are trying to prevent them from panicking, but none of them are identified as being the parents of previously established characters). [[spoiler:Even then, Joey's dad is not seen on screen, but his influence on the events that lead to the climax make him a major ChekhovsGunman]].


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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: The climactic raid on the school is forced upon the protagonists because [[spoiler:Joey Trotta's father, in a moment of unthinking PapaWolf rage, orders the death of Cali's father in revenge for Joey's and now the police has to prevent Cali from killing all of the children in a retaliation of his own.]]

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* CassandraTruth: Cali's claims that what happened to [[spoiler:Joey]] was do to his own actions when he really was going to be released are largely true, but come across as false to [[spoiler:Joey's father]].

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* CassandraTruth: Cali's claims claim that what happened to [[spoiler:Joey]] was do got shot due to his own actions when of fighting back even though he really was going to be released are is largely true, but come comes across as false to [[spoiler:Joey's father]].father, who has Cali's father killed]].



* TheGhost: All of the parents besides Joey's father (several parents are seen in a meeting with the authorities, who are trying to prevent them from panicking, but none of them are identified as being the parents of previously established characters).

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* TheGhost: All of the parents powerful fathers of the main characters besides Joey's father are mentioned but unseen (several parents are seen in a meeting with the authorities, who are trying to prevent them from panicking, but none of them are identified as being the parents of previously established characters).


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* MenOfSherwood: Barely any of the commandos who end the hostage situation at the boarding school and rescue the kids are named or get characterization, but they are responsible for [[spoiler:every fatality the villains suffer, including the BigBad]], and only lose a few of their own people. Throughout this, the main characters (the hostages) settle for [[spoiler:overpowering a few guards, disarming a booby trap, and taking cover]].

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* NoKillLikeOverkill: It's not enough for the terrorists to shoot up a cop car with a fifty-cal heavy machine gun, they have to blow it up with an anti-tank rocket launcher to top it off!

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* NoKillLikeOverkill: It's not enough for the terrorists to shoot up a cop car with a fifty-cal heavy machine gun, they have to blow it up with an anti-tank rocket launcher to top it off!off! Later an AH-64 Apache is twice seen shooting baddies with its 30mm cannon, a weapon meant to pierce light armor. The Apache's appearance is a bit gratuitous, since it isn't shown doing anything one of the Blackhawks couldn't have done, but see RuleOfCool.


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* RuleOfCool: There was no tactical benefit to using an AH-64 Apache instead of another UH-60 Blackhawk, but damn if it isn't satisfying to see the fear of god in the eyes of the terrorists.
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* CassandraTruth: Cali's claims that what happened to [[spoiler:Joey]] was do ho his own actions when he really was going to be released are largely true, but come across as false to [[spoiler:Joey's father]].

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* CassandraTruth: Cali's claims that what happened to [[spoiler:Joey]] was do ho to his own actions when he really was going to be released are largely true, but come across as false to [[spoiler:Joey's father]].
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** TruthInTelevision, radio control components are standardized. This makes it a bit risky to use for a bomb, though they are freely available, so easily accessible to terrorists. They might not even be aware they are used in toys.
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* DisposableWoman: The unfortunate courtroom hostage in the opening. She and others are forced to stand on the window sill. One rifle butt [[DestinationDefenestration later...]]
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* TheMafia: Joey's father is a Don in the Mafia, and Joey is ashamed of it and takes exception when his friends bring it up.

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* TheMafia: Joey's father is a Don in the Mafia, and Joey is ashamed of it and takes exception when his friends bring it up. [[spoiler:When Joey is killed, his dad has Cali's dad murdered in prison in retaliation.]]
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* CassandraTruth: Cali's claims that what happened to [[spoiler:Joey]] was do ho his own actions when he really was login to be released are largely true, but come across as false to [[spoiler:Joey's father]].

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* CassandraTruth: Cali's claims that what happened to [[spoiler:Joey]] was do ho his own actions when he really was login going to be released are largely true, but come across as false to [[spoiler:Joey's father]].
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''Toy Soldiers'' is a film released in 1991, starring Louis Gossett Jr., Creator/SeanAstin, Creator/WilWheaton, and Keith Coogan.

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''Toy Soldiers'' is a film released in 1991, starring Louis Gossett Jr., Creator/LouisGossettJr, Creator/SeanAstin, Creator/WilWheaton, and Keith Coogan.
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* ADateWithRosiePalms: Snuffy says that the first rule of prep school etiquette is to pretend to be asleep whenever your roommate is beating off.


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* BadassBystander: One unnamed kid (credited as "Brave student") sprints out of the cafeteria past the cartel gunmen during the initial hostage taking and tries to get to a phone to call in what's happening before being caught.


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** During the initial hostage taking, the chemistry teacher tries to manhandle a mercenary who looks about to shoot a student, which gets him killed.


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* CassandraTruth: Cali's claims that what happened to [[spoiler:Joey]] was do ho his own actions when he really was login to be released are largely true, but come across as false to [[spoiler:Joey's father]].


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* TheGhost: All of the parents besides Joey's father (several parents are seen in a meeting with the authorities, who are trying to prevent them from panicking, but none of them are identified as being the parents of previously established characters).


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* InstantlyProvenWrong: A deliberately invoked example. Ricardo claims not to speak Spanish to Cali, who tells one of his men in spanish to shoot Ricardo in the leg, with his panicked reaction showing that he did understand that.


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* PetTheDog: Cali is a cold, ruthless man, but after the American government meets several of his demands (although not all of them) while he continues to hold out for more, he acknowledges this act of good faith and extends the deadline he made for executing hostages to give them more time.
* ProperlyParanoid: The authorities moving the son of the judge trying Cali's father out of the school and into protective custody was a far-sighted and wise precaution. Unfortunately, it isn't enough to keep Cali from holding everyone else at the school hostage.
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* NumbersStation: The coded transmissions of TheCartel utilize this method.
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* BadassTeacher: Dean Parker definitely earns his stripes at the climax when the assault team he was leading into the school gets incapacitated by a booby trap and he picks up a gun and continues on his own.
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* GunshipRescue: The climactic raid on the school has multiple soldiers flying in with Blackhawks and Apache chopper support.


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* SpannerInTheWorks: The climactic raid becomes much more important to pull off because [[spoiler:Joey Trotta's father (who has connections in prison) orders the death of Luis Cali's father (who is also in prison) as he's being released and the authorities really don't want to know what will Cali do when he discovers that his plan to force the authorities to release his father was AllForNothing.]]
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PapaWolf:[[spoiler: Directly related to the above, Albert Trotta does ''not'' the news of his son's killing well. See ThisIsFor below.]]
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PapaWolf:[[spoiler: Directly related to the above, Albert Trotta does ''not'' the news of his son's killing well. See ThisIsFor below.]]
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* DieHardOnAnX: ''Film/DieHard'' in a boarding school.
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* WouldHurtAChild: When [[spoiler: Joey Trotta (WilWheaton)]] tries to start a rebellion among the students, the Colombians shoot him down without hesitation. Cali does try to explain that, had the boy not grabbed a submachine gun from one of the guards and threatened his people with it, Cali probably would have been content to just beat up on him some as punishment instead of shooting him. Cali doesn't help his case by claiming it was an accident.

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* WouldHurtAChild: When [[spoiler: Joey Trotta (WilWheaton)]] (Creator/WilWheaton)]] tries to start a rebellion among the students, the Colombians shoot him down without hesitation. Cali does try to explain that, had the boy not grabbed a submachine gun from one of the guards and threatened his people with it, Cali probably would have been content to just beat up on him some as punishment instead of shooting him. Cali doesn't help his case by claiming it was an accident.
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* CutPhoneLines: The cartel does this at the school, just before busting in to announce their takeover.

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