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* ViewersAreIdiots: Apparently, KC didn't think the audience would get that the Postman was lying about the USA unless he gave the most unconvincing performance imaginable.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: When the Holnists almost STONE TO DEATH a man for not showing the ''Sound of Music.''
** Bizarrely, this is meant to have a point. The Holnists are almost all conscripts and thus are not the psychopaths that you might initially think.
** Bizarrely, this is meant to have a point. The Holnists are almost all conscripts and thus are not the psychopaths that you might initially think.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: When the Holnists almost STONE TO DEATH a man for not showing the ''Sound of Music.''
** Bizarrely, this is meant to have a point. The Holnists are almost all conscripts and thus are not the psychopaths that you might initially think.
** Bizarrely, this is meant to have a point. The Holnists are almost all conscripts and thus are not the psychopaths that you might initially think.
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* AFatherToHisMen: General Bethlehem thinks he's one of these. Amusingly, it's fairly clear almost every one of his men hates him to the core but none of them want to stand up to him (assuming the other people in the army are loyal Holnists).
* ANaziByAnyOtherName: Actually, it's fairly clear that the Holnists in this movie are the Ku Klux Klan by any other name.
** Which makes perfect sense since the KKK actually includes many of the survival groups the Holnists were based on.
* BadassBookworm: General Bethlehem. He then subverts it by having the books he's done with burned.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: When the Holnists almost STONE TO DEATH a man for not showing the ''Sound of Music.''
** Bizarrely, this is meant to have a point. The Holnists are almost all conscripts and thus are not the psychopaths that you might initially think.
* BlatantLies: All of Kevin Costner's lies about the reformed United States government go unquestioned despite how obviously evasive and unconvincing he is.
** No one questions that the new President of the United States has the same real name as ''RINGO STAR''.
* ANaziByAnyOtherName: Actually, it's fairly clear that the Holnists in this movie are the Ku Klux Klan by any other name.
** Which makes perfect sense since the KKK actually includes many of the survival groups the Holnists were based on.
* BadassBookworm: General Bethlehem. He then subverts it by having the books he's done with burned.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: When the Holnists almost STONE TO DEATH a man for not showing the ''Sound of Music.''
** Bizarrely, this is meant to have a point. The Holnists are almost all conscripts and thus are not the psychopaths that you might initially think.
* BlatantLies: All of Kevin Costner's lies about the reformed United States government go unquestioned despite how obviously evasive and unconvincing he is.
** No one questions that the new President of the United States has the same real name as ''RINGO STAR''.
* CrazySurvivalist: The Holnists APPEAR to be this in the movie.
* CruelMercy: General Bethlehem gets this at one point. [[spoiler: Almost.]]
* EvilArmy: Averted. The Holnists are probably the least enthusiastic gang of rapists and plunderers in history.
* CruelMercy: General Bethlehem gets this at one point. [[spoiler: Almost.]]
* EvilArmy: Averted. The Holnists are probably the least enthusiastic gang of rapists and plunderers in history.
* ImAHumanitarian: Not shown but all of the poor pets you get attached to are killed and eaten in this movie.
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* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Along with EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: The main character is called "Shakespeare" when anyone wants to call him by a particular name, because he made a living traveling from place to place performing the works of WilliamShakespeare ([[PragmaticAdaptation more or less]]) until the events at the beginning of the movie. For most of the rest of the movie, he is addressed as [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The Postman]].
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* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Along with EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: The main character is called "Shakespeare" when anyone wants to call him by a particular name, because he made a living traveling from place to place performing the works of WilliamShakespeare ([[PragmaticAdaptation WilliamShakespeare.
* {{Narm}}: So...goddamn...much.
** The scene where Kevin Costner's character imagines owning a television set that functions.
** The scene where Kevin Costner does Shakespeare ''horribly'' with his Donkey.
** The Shakespeare contest with General Bethlehem, which... honestly is so Narmalicious that even Kevin Costner seems weirded out he's doing it.
** Kevin Costner's attempts to make up a story even though he's a horrible liar.
** A man is rendered sterile by... the bad mumps.
** Roger Ebert said the crowning moment of sap was when the Postman rides out to pick a letter from a boy's hands.
*** Hell, just the whole damn movie.
*([[PragmaticAdaptation more or less]]) until the events at the beginning of the movie. For most of the rest of the movie, he is addressed as [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The Postman]].
* {{Narm}}: So...goddamn...much.
** The scene where Kevin Costner's character imagines owning a television set that functions.
** The scene where Kevin Costner does Shakespeare ''horribly'' with his Donkey.
** The Shakespeare contest with General Bethlehem, which... honestly is so Narmalicious that even Kevin Costner seems weirded out he's doing it.
** Kevin Costner's attempts to make up a story even though he's a horrible liar.
** A man is rendered sterile by... the bad mumps.
** Roger Ebert said the crowning moment of sap was when the Postman rides out to pick a letter from a boy's hands.
*** Hell, just the whole damn movie.
*([[PragmaticAdaptation more or less]]) until the events at the beginning of the movie. For most of the rest of the movie, he is addressed as [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The Postman]].
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* ViewersAreIdiots: Apparently, KC didn't think the audience would get that the Postman was lying about the USA unless he gave the most unconvincing performance imaginable.
* YouHaveFailedMe: The Holnists do this to one member of every recruit batch they do it, to scare them straight. Bizarrely, General Bethlehem doesn't do it to anyone else.
* {{Wallbanger}}: Where do you EVEN BEGIN.
** How about a man being rendered sterile ''by the mumps.''
* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: General Bethlehem's followers apparently hate him every bit as much as the townsfolk they oppress. Not a single one of them seems unhappy to see him gone after the one racist redneck killed early on.
* YouHaveFailedMe: The Holnists do this to one member of every recruit batch they do it, to scare them straight. Bizarrely, General Bethlehem doesn't do it to anyone else.
* {{Wallbanger}}: Where do you EVEN BEGIN.
** How about a man being rendered sterile ''by the mumps.''
* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: General Bethlehem's followers apparently hate him every bit as much as the townsfolk they oppress. Not a single one of them seems unhappy to see him gone after the one racist redneck killed early on.
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* AdaptationDecay: The movie left out quite a bit of the plot of the book, particularly the [[SuperSoldier augments]] and pretty much the entire conflict between the towns loyal to the Reunited States of America and the Holnists.
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* [=~Chekhov's Gun~=]: The tattoo that recruits into Bethlehem's army are given [[spoiler: including Shakespeare]]
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* [=~Chekhov's Gun~=]: ChekhovsGun: The tattoo that recruits into Bethlehem's army are given [[spoiler: including Shakespeare]]
Shakespeare]].
*[=~Chekhov's Gunman~=]: ChekhovsGunman: [[spoiler: Colonel Getty]]Getty]].
* CompressedAdaptation: The movie left out quite a bit of the plot of the book, particularly the [[SuperSoldier augments]] and pretty much the entire conflict between the towns loyal to the Reunited States of America and the Holnists.
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* TookALevelInBadass: General Bethlehem mentions that before the war, he was a copier salesman.
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: The two armies get ready to fight the big battle at the end... [[spoiler: and it all comes down to a one-on-one [[strike: duel]] brawl between the two leaders.]]
* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: [[OurFounder the statue]]]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: the soldier from [[strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]]]] the Republic of California]]
* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: [[OurFounder the statue]]]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: the soldier from [[strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]]]] the Republic of California]]
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-->'''[[spoiler: [[AsHimself Tom Petty]]]]''': ''I was once... sorta. Kinda. But not anymore.''
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A [[TheNineties 1997]] [[FilmOfTheBook movie based on a book]] by DavidBrin, about a wanderer in post-apocalyptic Oregon who ends up disguising himself as a US Postman and weaving an intricate story about the US government being reformed. [[{{Understatement}} It was not a very successful movie.]]
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A [[TheNineties 1997]] [[FilmOfTheBook movie based on on]] [[ThePostman a book]] by DavidBrin, about a wanderer in post-apocalyptic Oregon who ends up disguising himself as a US Postman and weaving an intricate story about the US government being reformed. [[{{Understatement}} It was not a very successful movie.]]
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* KlingonPromotion: Members of Bethelehem's army are allowed to challenge their superiors in one-on-one combat for their positions. [[ChekovsGun this becomes important later on.]]
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* KlingonPromotion: Members of Bethelehem's army are allowed to challenge their superiors in one-on-one combat for their positions. [[ChekovsGun [[ChekhovsGun this becomes important later on.]]
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* StarDerailingRole: KevinCostner barely recovered from it.
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* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: [[OurFounder the statue]]]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: The soldier from [[strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]]]] the Republic of California]]
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* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: [[OurFounder the statue]]]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: The the soldier from [[strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]]]] the Republic of California]]
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* HeyItsThatGuy: The assistant coach of [[RememberTheTitans the Titans]] went on to coach bigger teams.
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* DareToBeBadass: According to General Bethlehem, he was a copier salesman before the war forced him to [[TookALevilInBadass take a level or two]].
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* PragmaticAdaptation: There really wasn't any way that a movie made in TheNineties was going to do a very good job trying to deal with everything that happens in the book, so the movie took the core concept of the story and ran with it. For what it is worth, [[http://www.davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm David Brin]] [[WordOfGod liked the movie.]]
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* PragmaticAdaptation: There really wasn't any way that a movie made in TheNineties was going to do a very good job trying to deal with everything that happens in the book, so the movie took the core concept of the story and ran with it. For what it is worth, [[http://www.davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm David Brin]] [[WordOfGod liked the movie.]]]]
* TookALevelInBadass: General Bethlehem mentions that before the war, he was a copier salesman.
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* DareToBeBadass: According to General Bethlehem, he was a copier salesman before the war forced him to [[TookALevilInBadass take a level or two]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: The whole movie nowadays plays like something of a mix between DancesWithWolves and {{Fallout}}.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The whole movie nowadays plays like something of a mix between DancesWithWolves ''DancesWithWolves'' and {{Fallout}}.''{{Fallout}}''.
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* CelebritySurvivor: [[spoiler: TomPetty]]
-->'''Shakespeare''': ''I know you. You're... famous. ''
-->'''[[spoiler: TomPetty]]''': ''I was once... sorta.''
-->'''Shakespeare''': ''I know you. You're... famous. ''
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* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: the statue]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: The soldier from [[strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]]]] the Republic of California]]
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* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: [[OurFounder the statue]] statue]]]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: The soldier from [[strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]]]] the Republic of California]]
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* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: the statue]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: The soldier from [[Strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]] the Republic of California]]
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* {{Narm}}: Along with {{Glurge}}, in quite a few places throughout the movie, particularly the [[spoiler: the statue]] at the end and when Ford Lincoln Mercury meets [[spoiler: The soldier from [[Strike: [[strike: [[{{Fallout}} The NCR]] NCR]]]] the Republic of California]]
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: The two armies get ready to fight the big battle at the end... and it all comes down to a one-on-one [[strike: duel]] brawl between the two leaders.
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: The two armies get ready to fight the big battle at the end... [[spoiler: and it all comes down to a one-on-one [[strike: duel]] brawl between the two leaders.]]
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* Adaptation Decay: The movie left out quite a bit of the plot of the book, particularly the [[SuperSoldier augments]] and pretty much the entire conflict between the towns loyal to the Reunited States of America and the Holnists.
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* Adaptation Decay: AdaptationDecay: The movie left out quite a bit of the plot of the book, particularly the [[SuperSoldier augments]] and pretty much the entire conflict between the towns loyal to the Reunited States of America and the Holnists.
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: The two armies get ready to fight the big battle at the end... and it all comes down to a one-on-one [[strike: duel]] brawl between the two leaders.
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: The two armies get ready to fight the big battle at the end... and it all comes down to a one-on-one [[strike: duel]] brawl between the two leaders.leaders.
* PragmaticAdaptation: There really wasn't any way that a movie made in TheNineties was going to do a very good job trying to deal with everything that happens in the book, so the movie took the core concept of the story and ran with it. For what it is worth, [[http://www.davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm David Brin]] [[WordOfGod liked the movie.]]
* PragmaticAdaptation: There really wasn't any way that a movie made in TheNineties was going to do a very good job trying to deal with everything that happens in the book, so the movie took the core concept of the story and ran with it. For what it is worth, [[http://www.davidbrin.com/postmanmovie.htm David Brin]] [[WordOfGod liked the movie.]]
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A [[TheNineties 1997]] [[FilmOfTheBook movie based on a book]] by DavidBrin, about a wanderer in post-apocalyptic Oregon who ends up disguising himself as a US Postman and weaving an intricate story about the US government being reformed. [[{{Understatement}} It was not a very successful movie.]]
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A [[TheNineties 1997]] [[FilmOfTheBook movie based on a book]] by DavidBrin, about a wanderer in post-apocalyptic Oregon who ends up disguising himself as a US Postman and weaving an intricate story about the US government being reformed. [[{{Understatement}} It was not a very successful movie.]]]]
* Adaptation Decay: The movie left out quite a bit of the plot of the book, particularly the [[SuperSoldier augments]] and pretty much the entire conflict between the towns loyal to the Reunited States of America and the Holnists.
* ChekovsGun: The tattoo that recruits into Bethlehem's army are given [[spoiler including Shakespeare]]
* KlingonPromotion: Members of Bethelehem's army are allowed to challenge their superiors in one-on-one combat for their positions. [[ChekovsGun this becomes important later on.]]
* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Along with EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: The main character is called "Shakespeare" when anyone wants to call him by a particular name, because he made a living traveling from place to place performing the works of WilliamShakespeare ([[PragmaticAdaptation more or less]]) until the events at the beginning of the movie. For most of the rest of the movie, he is addressed as [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The Postman]].
* MissedMomentOfAwesome: The two armies get ready to fight the big battle at the end... and it all comes down to a one-on-one [[strike: duel]] brawl between the two leaders.
* Adaptation Decay: The movie left out quite a bit of the plot of the book, particularly the [[SuperSoldier augments]] and pretty much the entire conflict between the towns loyal to the Reunited States of America and the Holnists.
* ChekovsGun: The tattoo that recruits into Bethlehem's army are given [[spoiler including Shakespeare]]
* KlingonPromotion: Members of Bethelehem's army are allowed to challenge their superiors in one-on-one combat for their positions. [[ChekovsGun this becomes important later on.]]
* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Along with EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: The main character is called "Shakespeare" when anyone wants to call him by a particular name, because he made a living traveling from place to place performing the works of WilliamShakespeare ([[PragmaticAdaptation more or less]]) until the events at the beginning of the movie. For most of the rest of the movie, he is addressed as [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin The Postman]].
* MissedMomentOfAwesome: The two armies get ready to fight the big battle at the end... and it all comes down to a one-on-one [[strike: duel]] brawl between the two leaders.
