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Based on the novel by BernardMalamud, ''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring Creator/RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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Based on the novel by BernardMalamud, Bernard Malamud, ''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring Creator/RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: A male version with Roy, who expresses interest in Harriet (until she reveals herself to be a LoonyFan) and pursues a relationship with Memo despite being cautioned against it. The tropes is ultimately subverted when he chooses Iris in the end.
* CatapultNightmare: Roy has a nightmare involving the woman who shot him ([[{{Foreshadowing}} while in bed with Memo]]), and jerks awake in a panic.
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* FirstGirlWins / VictoriousChildhoodFriend: Implied Roy refuses to throw the game and run away with Memo like she begged him to, and the ending.final scene shows him playing catch with [[spoiler: his son]] while Iris watches.
* HisStoryRepeatsItself: [[spoiler: Memo]] pulls a gun on Roy during her VillainousBreakdown. She doesn't shoot him, but he's understandably unnerved at the sight (considering what happened to him sixteen years before), and he visibly relaxes after taking it away from her. Then he hangs a lampshade on the parallel by telling her [[CallBack she was right]]; they have met before.
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* LivingLegend: Becoming one is Roy's biggest dream in life. He succeeds.
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* LivingLegend: Becoming one is Roy's biggest dream in life. [[spoiler: He succeeds.]]
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* LoonyFan: Of the very creepy variety.
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* TimeshiftedActor: Paul Sullivan Jr. as Young Roy, and Rachel Hall as Young Iris.
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* VillainousBreakdown: Memo pulls a gun on Roy when he tells The Judge that he's not going to throw the game, since it means that he won't run away with her like she begged him to.
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Based on the novel by Creator/BernardMalamud, ''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring Creator/RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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-->'''Roy Hobbs''': And then? And then when I walked down the street people would've looked and they would've said there 'there goes Roy Hobbs, the best there ever was in this game.game'.
Based on the novel byCreator/BernardMalamud, BernardMalamud, ''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring Creator/RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
Based on the novel by
* TheAce: Roy in his younger days. He develops into a (very downplayed) BrokenAce after the incident that ruined his early career.
* BookEnds: The movie begins with young Roy playing catch with his father in a field on their farm, and ends with adult Roy playing catch with [[spoiler: his son]] in what appears to be the same field.
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* DarkIsEvil: Implied with [[NoNameGiven the Judge]], who refuses to light his office. Roy doesn't hold this belief so, saying that the only think he knows about the dark is "you can't see in it."
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* DarkIsEvil: Implied with [[NoNameGiven the Judge]], who refuses to light his office. Roy doesn't hold this belief so, belief, saying that the only think he knows about the dark is "you can't see in it."
* FirstGirlWins / VictoriousChildhoodFriend: Implied with the ending.
* FriendToAllChildren: Roy goes out of his way to be kind and friendly with every child he meets.
* FriendToAllChildren: Roy goes out of his way to be kind and friendly with every child he meets.
* LivingLegend: Becoming one is Roy's biggest dream in life. He succeeds.
--> "There goes Roy Hobbs, the best there ever was in this game."
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: The film makes games in which Hobbs plays seem like Ragnarok. Hobbs knocks the cover off of balls, wedges the ball into the net when he pitches, and at the end his homerun hit destroys the lighting fixtures, causing explosions of sparks to rain down on the field.
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* MoodWhiplash: Bump Bailey's death occurs during a game where he's playing exceptionally well, and the coaches are congratulating each other on successfully motivating him to play better... then he crashes through the outfield wall while chasing a ball and it cuts to a radio announcer describing his funeral while his ashes are scattered on the field. The whole thing comes completely out of nowhere.
* MundaneMadeAwesome: The film makes games in which Hobbs plays seem like Ragnarok. Hobbs knocks the cover off of balls, wedges the ball into the net when he pitches, and at the end hishomerun home run hit destroys the lighting fixtures, causing explosions of sparks to rain down on the field.field as he rounds the bases.
* MundaneMadeAwesome: The film makes games in which Hobbs plays seem like Ragnarok. Hobbs knocks the cover off of balls, wedges the ball into the net when he pitches, and at the end his
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* WomanInWhite: Iris, when she attends the baseball game where Roy breaks his batting slump. She's even back-lit by the sun so it looks like she's glowing.
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* AMasterMakesTheirOwnTools: At the beginning of the movie, lightning strikes an oak tree outside the family home. Obviously, the thing to do is to turn the wood into a regulation baseball bat and use it to start a career as a professional baseball player.
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* WholePlotReference: To ''MorteDarthur'', right down to the manager's name being Fisher (FisherKing), the team being called The Knights, Roy's bat being named (as Excalibur was), broken, and "healed" (in this case, a replacement).
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* WholePlotReference: To ''MorteDarthur'', ''Literature/LeMorteDarthur'', right down to the manager's name being Fisher (FisherKing), the team being called The Knights, Roy's bat being named (as Excalibur was), broken, and "healed" (in this case, a replacement).
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* ArtisticLicenseSports: The New York Knights somehow are batting in the bottom of the inning in Chicago despite being the visiting team.
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* GretzkyHasTheBall: The New York Knights somehow are batting in the bottom of the inning in Chicago despite being the visiting team.
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** Hobbs is much closer to Ted Williams than Ruth. Williams was also a decent pitcher who was quickly changed to a left fielder while still in the minors, wore the number 9, and hit a home run in his last at bat of his career.
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* BettyAndVeronica: Iris and Memo.
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* BettyAndVeronica: Iris and Memo.
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* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in the opening sequence. Even after the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]'' They do make a minor plot point of his being "the oldest rookie", have other players calling him Grandpa, stuff like that. His character isn't that old (35) but for a rookie baseball player that's ancient.
* DownToTheLastPlay
* {{Expy}}: "The Whammer", played by Joe Don Baker, is obviously inspired by BabeRuth. For that matter Hobbs is both a tremendous pitcher (he strikes out the Whammer) and a fearsome slugger, much as Ruth was in real life.
* DownToTheLastPlay
* {{Expy}}: "The Whammer", played by Joe Don Baker, is obviously inspired by BabeRuth. For that matter Hobbs is both a tremendous pitcher (he strikes out the Whammer) and a fearsome slugger, much as Ruth was in real life.
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* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in DownToTheLastPlay: Roy's walkoff homer off the opening sequence. Even after lighting tower to win the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]'' They do make a minor plot point of his being "the oldest rookie", have other players calling him Grandpa, stuff like that. His character isn't that old (35) but for a rookie baseball player that's ancient.
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* {{Expy}}: "The Whammer", played by Joe Don Baker, is obviously inspired byBabeRuth.Creator/BabeRuth. For that matter Hobbs is both a tremendous pitcher (he strikes out the Whammer) and a fearsome slugger, much as Ruth was in real life.
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* {{Expy}}: "The Whammer", played by Joe Don Baker, is obviously inspired by
* GaussianGirl: A male example for the early scenes where 48-year-old Robert Redford is asked to play a teenager.
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* WoundThatWillNotHealWoundThatWillNotHeal: The bullet in Roy's gut, which is still bleeding nearly 20 years after he got shot.
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* DarkIsEvil: Implied with [[NoNameGiven the Judge]], who refuses to light his office. Roy doesn't hold this belief so, saying that the only think he knows about the dark is "you can't see in it."
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* WholePlotReference: To ''MorteDarthur'', right down to the manager's name being Fisher (FisherKing) and the team being called The Knights.
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* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler: Roy dies at the end of the book.]]
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* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler: Roy dies at the end of the book.]]
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* ShoutOut: Roy's statement he wants people on the street to say "There goes Roy Hobbs, the greatest hitter who ever lived" was something Ted Williams stated.
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* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in the opening sequence. Even after the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]'' They do make a minor plot point of his being "the oldest rookie", have other players calling him Grandpa, stuff like that.
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* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in the opening sequence. Even after the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]'' They do make a minor plot point of his being "the oldest rookie", have other players calling him Grandpa, stuff like that. His character isn't that old (35) but for a rookie baseball player that's ancient.
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* CallingYourShots: Subverted: The Whammer (a Babe Ruth expy) calls his shot in an impromptu showdown with young Roy Hobbs, but goes down on strikes.
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Based on the novel by Creator/BernardMalamud, ''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring RobertRedford Creator/RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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* HeroOfAnotherStory: The young pitcher who faces off against Hobbs in the final game, and who nearly strikes Hobbs out, is described by the game's radio announcer in the same terms that Hobbs is described at the beginning of the movie. This pitcher is another "Natural", and its clear that, given time, he'll end up being one of the greatest players in the game, just like Hobbs.
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* ICallItVera: "Wonderboy"
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* ICallItVera: "Wonderboy""Wonderboy".
* LighterAndSofter: The movie has a HappyEnding, unlike the book.
* LighterAndSofter: The movie has a HappyEnding, unlike the book.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Randy Newman's score sounds suspiciously like Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man".
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Adapted from the novel by Bernard Malamud. Malamud's novel has a [[spoiler: DownerEnding in which Hobbs strikes out at the end and is disgraced]], while the movie has a completely opposite ending.
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: Adapted from the novel by Bernard Malamud. Malamud's novel is considerably darker in tone and has a [[spoiler: DownerEnding in which Hobbs strikes out at the end and is disgraced]], while the movie has a completely opposite ending.
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** Also, in the book, Hobbs becomes an arrogant {{Jerkass}} as a result of his sudden fame.
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Based on the novel by BernardMalamud, Creator/BernardMalamud, ''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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Based on the novel by BernardMalamud, ''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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* WatchOutForThatTree: How Bump Bailey meets his end, courtesy of an outfield wall.
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* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in the opening sequence. Even after the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]''
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* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in the opening sequence. Even after the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]''
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* [[GiveMeASword Give Me A Bat]]: "Pick me a winner, Bobby."
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* [[GiveMeASword Give Me GiveMeASword: A Bat]]: baseball bat, this time. "Pick me a winner, Bobby."
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* HairOfGold: Iris.
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: The film makes games in which Hobbs plays seem like Ragnarok. Hobbs knocks the cover off of balls, wedges the ball into the net when he pitches, and at the end his homerun hit destroys the lighting fixtures, causing explosions of sparks to rain down on the field.
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-->'''Roy Hobbs''': I coulda been better. I coulda broke every record in the book.
-->'''Iris Gaines''': And then?
-->'''Roy Hobbs''': And then? And then when I walked down the street people would've looked and they would've said there goes Roy Hobbs, the best there ever was in this game.
''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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!!This movie contains examples of:
* BettyAndVeronica: Iris and Memo.
* BigGame
* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in the opening sequence. Even after the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]''
** And they make a minor plot point of his being "the oldest rookie", have other players calling him Grandpa, stuff like that.
* DownToTheLastPlay
* {{Expy}}: "The Whammer", played by Joe Don Baker, is obviously inspired by BabeRuth. For that matter Hobbs is both a tremendous pitcher (he strikes out the Whammer) and a fearsome slugger, much as Ruth was in real life.
* TheFilmOfTheBook: Adapted from the novel by Bernard Malamud. Malamud's novel has a [[spoiler: DownerEnding in which Hobbs strikes out at the end and is disgraced]], while the movie has a completely opposite ending.
* [[GiveMeASword Give Me A Bat]]: "Pick me a winner, Bobby."
* GretzkyHasTheBall: The New York Knights somehow are batting in the bottom of the inning in Chicago despite being the visiting team.
* HairOfGold: Iris.
* ICallItVera: "Wonderboy"
* TheJimmyHartVersion: Randy Newman's score sounds suspiciously like Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man".
* LoonyFan: "Are you the best there ever was?"
* NoodleIncident: Baseball players are renowned for being hilariously superstitious. For the Knights, the number 11 is unlucky for some unexplained reason, and their supply manager warns Roy off.
* PutMeInCoach: Knights manager Pop Fisher is initially highly reluctant to let his absurdly old rookie play in a game.
* RedemptionQuest
* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: Iris has a secret.
* ThrowingTheFight: The Judge wants his own players to throw the climactic game so that he can force out Pop Fisher and take total control of the team.
* TruthInTelevision: Players have indeed hit home runs into scoreboard clocks, light arrays, and through the outfield fence. When Greg "The Bull" Luzinski was playing for the Phillies back in the 1970s, he hit a ball off the Jumbotron. It started smoking and they had to turn it off.
* TheVamp: Memo.
* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Philadelphia Phillies shortstop Eddie Waitkus was shot in the chest in his hotel room by a deranged fan in 1949. He recovered from his wound and played six more seasons in the big leagues, starring with the 1950 "Whiz Kids" Philadelphia team that won the National League pennant.
** Bump Bailey's fatal collision with an outfield wall was inspired by a similar (but thankfully non-fatal) accident involving talented young Brooklyn Dodgers outfielder Pete Reiser.
* VillainyFreeVillain: Max Mercy.
* WoundThatWillNotHeal
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-->'''Iris Gaines''': And then?
-->'''Roy Hobbs''': And then? And then when I walked down the street people would've looked and they would've said there goes Roy Hobbs, the best there ever was in this game.
''The Natural'' is a 1984 film starring RobertRedford as Roy Hobbs, a supernaturally gifted young baseball talent whose career is derailed when he is shot in the gut by a deranged fan. Years later he makes his belated big league debut, but his dark secret threatens to destroy him.
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!!This movie contains examples of:
* BettyAndVeronica: Iris and Memo.
* BigGame
* DawsonCasting: 48-year-old Redford plays a teenaged baseball prospect in the opening sequence. Even after the flash-forward, he's too old to play a big league athlete. He tends to get forgiven because, y'know, it's ''[[MrFanservice Robert Redford.]]''
** And they make a minor plot point of his being "the oldest rookie", have other players calling him Grandpa, stuff like that.
* DownToTheLastPlay
* {{Expy}}: "The Whammer", played by Joe Don Baker, is obviously inspired by BabeRuth. For that matter Hobbs is both a tremendous pitcher (he strikes out the Whammer) and a fearsome slugger, much as Ruth was in real life.
* TheFilmOfTheBook: Adapted from the novel by Bernard Malamud. Malamud's novel has a [[spoiler: DownerEnding in which Hobbs strikes out at the end and is disgraced]], while the movie has a completely opposite ending.
* [[GiveMeASword Give Me A Bat]]: "Pick me a winner, Bobby."
* GretzkyHasTheBall: The New York Knights somehow are batting in the bottom of the inning in Chicago despite being the visiting team.
* HairOfGold: Iris.
* ICallItVera: "Wonderboy"
* TheJimmyHartVersion: Randy Newman's score sounds suspiciously like Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man".
* LoonyFan: "Are you the best there ever was?"
* NoodleIncident: Baseball players are renowned for being hilariously superstitious. For the Knights, the number 11 is unlucky for some unexplained reason, and their supply manager warns Roy off.
* PutMeInCoach: Knights manager Pop Fisher is initially highly reluctant to let his absurdly old rookie play in a game.
* RedemptionQuest
* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: Iris has a secret.
* ThrowingTheFight: The Judge wants his own players to throw the climactic game so that he can force out Pop Fisher and take total control of the team.
* TruthInTelevision: Players have indeed hit home runs into scoreboard clocks, light arrays, and through the outfield fence. When Greg "The Bull" Luzinski was playing for the Phillies back in the 1970s, he hit a ball off the Jumbotron. It started smoking and they had to turn it off.
* TheVamp: Memo.
* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: Philadelphia Phillies shortstop Eddie Waitkus was shot in the chest in his hotel room by a deranged fan in 1949. He recovered from his wound and played six more seasons in the big leagues, starring with the 1950 "Whiz Kids" Philadelphia team that won the National League pennant.
** Bump Bailey's fatal collision with an outfield wall was inspired by a similar (but thankfully non-fatal) accident involving talented young Brooklyn Dodgers outfielder Pete Reiser.
* VillainyFreeVillain: Max Mercy.
* WoundThatWillNotHeal
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