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* StimulantSpeedtalk: After Evan goes to a side room to use a phone, a group of older guys enter the room without noticing him and start doing blow. Once they notice him, they mistake him for the brother of a friend, and the ringleader of the bunch goes on a spiel about how he needs to sing for them.
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Cool Loser TRS cleanup, has been renamed to Unconvincingly Unpopular Character and is a YMMV audience reaction.
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* CoolLoser: Evan, while awkward, is a fairly normal teenager who should probably have a bigger social circle. However, it's implied that a lot of people in their class do like him, but they don't hang out with him because of [[{{Jerkass}} Seth]] and [[CasanovaWannabe Fogell]]. During his fight with Seth, Evan claims that he could have made more friends if Seth wasn't hanging around with him all the time.
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* EverybodyKnewAlready: Both cops are already fully aware that [="McLovin"=] isn't Fogell's real name, but they're playing along to try and show him that not all police officers are heartless jerks.
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* EverybodyKnewAlready: Both cops are already After accidentally cockblocking Fogell at the party, Officers Slater and Michaels admit to him that they were fully aware that [="McLovin"=] isn't Fogell's real name, but they're name and the ID he showed them was fake. They were just playing along to try and show him that not all police officers are heartless jerks.
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** Alternatively, you could say that the obvious subversion of his "goody-two-shoes" image with such a scene is what ''really'' got everybody's attention. Not so much this particular trope.
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-->'''Evan:''' What kind of a stupid name is that, Fogell? What are you trying to be, an Irish R&B singer?
-->'''Fogell:''' They let you pick any name you want when you get down there.
-->'''Seth:''' And you landed on [=McLovin=]?!
-->'''Fogell:''' Yeah, it was between that and Muhammad.
-->'''Seth:''' [beat] Why the FUCK would it be between that and Muhammad?! Why didn't you just pick a common name like a normal person?
-->'''Fogell:''' Muhammad is the most commonly used name on earth. Read a fucking book for once.
-->'''Evan:''' Have you ever actually met anyone named Muhammad?
-->'''Fogell:''' Have you ever actually met anyone named [=McLovin=]?
-->'''Seth:''' No, that's why you picked a dumb fucking name!
-->'''Fogell:''' Fuck you.
-->'''Fogell:''' They let you pick any name you want when you get down there.
-->'''Seth:''' And you landed on [=McLovin=]?!
-->'''Fogell:''' Yeah, it was between that and Muhammad.
-->'''Seth:''' [beat] Why the FUCK would it be between that and Muhammad?! Why didn't you just pick a common name like a normal person?
-->'''Fogell:''' Muhammad is the most commonly used name on earth. Read a fucking book for once.
-->'''Evan:''' Have you ever actually met anyone named Muhammad?
-->'''Fogell:''' Have you ever actually met anyone named [=McLovin=]?
-->'''Seth:''' No, that's why you picked a dumb fucking name!
-->'''Fogell:''' Fuck you.
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-->'''Evan:''' What kind of a stupid name is that, Fogell? What are you trying to be, an Irish R&B singer?
-->'''Fogell:'''singer?\\
'''Fogell:''' They let you pick any name you want when you get downthere.
-->'''Seth:'''there.\\
'''Seth:''' And you landed on[=McLovin=]?!
-->'''Fogell:'''[=McLovin=]?!\\
'''Fogell:''' Yeah, it was between that andMuhammad.
-->'''Seth:'''Muhammad.\\
'''Seth:''' [beat] Why the FUCK would it be between that and Muhammad?! Why didn't you just pick a common name like a normalperson?
-->'''Fogell:'''person?\\
'''Fogell:''' Muhammad is the most commonly used name on earth. Read a fucking book foronce.
-->'''Evan:'''once.\\
'''Evan:''' Have you ever actually met anyone namedMuhammad?
-->'''Fogell:'''Muhammad?\\
'''Fogell:''' Have you ever actually met anyone named[=McLovin=]?
-->'''Seth:'''[=McLovin=]?\\
'''Seth:''' No, that's why you picked a dumb fuckingname!
-->'''Fogell:'''name!\\
'''Fogell:''' Fuck you.
-->'''Fogell:'''
'''Fogell:''' They let you pick any name you want when you get down
-->'''Seth:'''
'''Seth:''' And you landed on
-->'''Fogell:'''
'''Fogell:''' Yeah, it was between that and
-->'''Seth:'''
'''Seth:''' [beat] Why the FUCK would it be between that and Muhammad?! Why didn't you just pick a common name like a normal
-->'''Fogell:'''
'''Fogell:''' Muhammad is the most commonly used name on earth. Read a fucking book for
-->'''Evan:'''
'''Evan:''' Have you ever actually met anyone named
-->'''Fogell:'''
'''Fogell:''' Have you ever actually met anyone named
-->'''Seth:'''
'''Seth:''' No, that's why you picked a dumb fucking
-->'''Fogell:'''
'''Fogell:''' Fuck you.
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-->'''Seth:''' Fuck, man!
-->'''Evan:''' So what the fuck do you want from me? I'm not gonna let you slow me down anymore, Seth!
-->'''Evan:''' So what the fuck do you want from me? I'm not gonna let you slow me down anymore, Seth!
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-->'''Seth:''' Fuck, man!
-->'''Evan:'''man!\\
'''Evan:''' So what the fuck do you want from me? I'm not gonna let you slow me down anymore, Seth!
-->'''Evan:'''
'''Evan:''' So what the fuck do you want from me? I'm not gonna let you slow me down anymore, Seth!
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* MostWritersAreAdults: INVERTED. Both Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg wrote most of the film when they were 13, even though Seth and Evan are finishing high school.
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* MostWritersAreAdults: INVERTED.''{{Inverted|Trope}}''. Both Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg wrote most of the film when they were 13, even though Seth and Evan are finishing high school.
* NeverMyFault:
** Seth blames Becca for "ratting" on him for drawing pictures of dicks in elementary school, which resulted in him having to go to therapy. What actually happened was she accidentally came across one of the drawings after a rude classmate intentionally knocked over Seth's stuff, which understandably freaked her out and made her scream, which drew the attention of the teacher.
** Seth also lashes out at Evan for getting into Dartmouth, complaining that they were supposed to go to the same college together. Evan retorts that going to a college like Dartmouth is a great opportunity for his future and it's selfish of Seth to expect Evan to compromise his potential just for Seth's sake.
** Seth blames Becca for "ratting" on him for drawing pictures of dicks in elementary school, which resulted in him having to go to therapy. What actually happened was she accidentally came across one of the drawings after a rude classmate intentionally knocked over Seth's stuff, which understandably freaked her out and made her scream, which drew the attention of the teacher.
** Seth also lashes out at Evan for getting into Dartmouth, complaining that they were supposed to go to the same college together. Evan retorts that going to a college like Dartmouth is a great opportunity for his future and it's selfish of Seth to expect Evan to compromise his potential just for Seth's sake.
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* NeverMyFault: Seth blames Becca for "ratting" on him for drawing pictures of dicks in elementary school, which resulted in him having to go to therapy. What actually happened was she accidentally came across one of the drawings after a rude classmate intentionally knocked over Seth's stuff, which understandably freaked her out and made her scream, which drew the attention of the teacher.
** Seth also lashes out at Evan for getting into Dartmouth, complaining that they were supposed to go to the same college together. Evan retorts that going to a college like Dartmouth is a great opportunity for his future and it's selfish of Seth to expect Evan to compromise his potential just for Seth's sake.
** Seth also lashes out at Evan for getting into Dartmouth, complaining that they were supposed to go to the same college together. Evan retorts that going to a college like Dartmouth is a great opportunity for his future and it's selfish of Seth to expect Evan to compromise his potential just for Seth's sake.
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* ComedicSociopathy: Officer Slater and Michaels turn off their radio, after their colleagues scream for help, implicitly leaving them to die simply for interrupting their conversation.
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* RecklessGunUsage: Michaels and Slater constantly wave their loaded guns around and let a drunken minor shoot at their burning patrol car.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Officers Slater and Michaels believe that Fogell, played by 18 year old Christopher Mintz-Plasse, is a 25 year old Hawaian called McLovin, no first name. They only laughed examining his fake ID because he's an organ donour. And the rump they have with Fogell shows that they are indeed pretty dumb and incompetent police officers. But toward the end of the movie, after accidently cockblocking him, they explain to him that they from the start his ID was fake but played along because they remembered being geeky teens like him and wanted to look cool to him.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Officers Slater and Michaels believe that Fogell, played by 18 year old Christopher Mintz-Plasse, is a 25 year old Hawaian called McLovin, no first name. They only laughed examining his fake ID because he's an organ donour. And the rump romp they have with Fogell shows that they are indeed pretty dumb and incompetent police officers. But toward the end of the movie, after accidently accidentally cockblocking him, they explain to him that they knew from the start his ID was fake but played along because they remembered being geeky teens like him and wanted to look cool to him.
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* OneTrackMindedArtist: Seth's childhood obsession with drawing penises. The art itself is incredibly good, anything from political caricature to copying classic artists to showcasing inner hurt, but it's still all about penises. When his family discovers this art it ends with him being forced to go to therapy and Seth considers an old childhood sweetheart his sworn enemy because he believes she's the one who told them.
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* OneTrackMindedArtist: Seth's childhood obsession with drawing penises. The art itself is incredibly good, anything from political caricature to copying classic artists to showcasing inner hurt, but it's still all about penises. When He still blames Becca for freaking out when she happened to see one of his family discovers this art it ends with pictures and causing the grown ups to find out, which resulted in his parents forcing him being forced to go to therapy and Seth considers an old childhood sweetheart his sworn enemy because he believes she's the one who told them.therapy.
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*ObfuscatingStupidity: Officers Slater and Michaels believe that Fogell, played by 18 year old Christopher Mintz-Plasse, is a 25 year old Hawaian called McLovin, no first name. They only laughed examining his fake ID because he's an organ donour. And the rump they have with Fogell shows that they are indeed pretty dumb and incompetent police officers. But toward the end of the movie, after accidently cockblocking him, they explain to him that they from the start his ID was fake but played along because they remembered being geeky teens like him and wanted to look cool to him.
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* AlphaBitch: Averted BIG TIME with Jules. She is not only one of the most popular girls at school, but is by far the nicest/most polite character in the movie. The reversal of this trope actually plays into the plot, as Seth assumes she will be a drunk party animal as a popular girl, and gets equally hammered in preparation for that, only to find out that Jules does not even drink alcohol.
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* CoolLoser: Evan, while awkward, is a fairly normal teenager who should probably have a bigger social circle. However, it's implied that a lot of people in their class do like him, but they don't hang out with him because of [[{{Jerkass}} Seth]] and [[ExtravertedNerd Fogell]]. During his fight with Seth, Evan claims that he could have made more friends if Seth wasn't hanging around with him all the time.
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* CoolLoser: Evan, while awkward, is a fairly normal teenager who should probably have a bigger social circle. However, it's implied that a lot of people in their class do like him, but they don't hang out with him because of [[{{Jerkass}} Seth]] and [[ExtravertedNerd [[CasanovaWannabe Fogell]]. During his fight with Seth, Evan claims that he could have made more friends if Seth wasn't hanging around with him all the time.
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* ExtravertedNerd: Fogell, aka [=McLovin=], seems to have no idea how dorky he is and puts himself out in social situations.
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* FatAndSkinny: Seth and Evan respectively.
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%% * FatAndSkinny: Seth and Evan respectively.
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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: The opening scene where Seth is chatting to Evan about his porn habits is a good one - Seth is shown to be a crude, horny teenager who's obsessed by sex and views women only as sex objects; while Evan is clearly more emotionally mature but willing to indulge his friend. We even see the first hint that Seth may not be entire heterosexual (specifically, he's not turned on by "a vagina on its own", he needs to see "dick going in").
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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: The opening scene where Seth is chatting to Evan about his porn habits is a good one - Seth is shown to be a crude, horny teenager who's obsessed by sex and views women only as sex objects; while Evan is clearly more emotionally mature but willing to indulge his friend. We even see the first hint that Seth may not be entire entirely heterosexual (specifically, he's not turned on by "a vagina on its own", he needs to see "dick going in").
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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: The opening scene where Seth is chatting to Evan about his porn habits is a good one - Seth is shown to be a crude, horny teenager who's obsessed by sex and views women only as sex objects; while Evan is clearly more emotionally mature but willing to indulge his friend. We even see the first hint that Seth may not be entire heterosexual (specifically, he's not turned on by "a vagina on its own", he needs to see "dick going in").
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* SleepCute: Seth and Evan pull this off after going back to their room having failed/refused to get laid with Jules and Becca.
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''Superbad'' is a 2007 teen comedy film written by Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg, directed by Greg Mottola and produced by Creator/JuddApatow. Rogen and Goldberg began working on it when they were in high school, and named the main characters after themselves.
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''Superbad'' is a 2007 teen comedy film written by Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg, directed by Greg Mottola and produced by Creator/JuddApatow. Rogen and Goldberg began working on it the film when they were in high school, and named the main characters after themselves.
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->''"You know when you hear girls say 'Ah man, I was so shit faced last night, I shouldn't have fucked that guy?' We could be that mistake!"''
-->--'''Seth'''
''Superbad'' is a 2007 teen comedy written by Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg (who began working on it when they were in high school and named the main characters after themselves), directed by Greg Mottola and produced by Creator/JuddApatow.
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''Superbad'' is a 2007 teen comedy written by Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg (who began working on it when they were in high school and named the main characters after themselves), directed by Greg Mottola and produced by Creator/JuddApatow.
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->''"You know when you hear girls say 'Ah say, 'Ah, man, I was so shit faced shit-faced last night, I shouldn't have fucked that guy?' guy'? We could be that mistake!"''
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-->-- '''Seth'''
''Superbad'' is a 2007 teen comedy film written by Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg, directed by Greg Mottola and produced by Creator/JuddApatow. Rogen and Goldberg(who began working on it when they were in high school school, and named the main characters after themselves), directed by Greg Mottola and produced by Creator/JuddApatow.
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''Superbad'' is a 2007 teen comedy film written by Creator/SethRogen and Evan Goldberg, directed by Greg Mottola and produced by Creator/JuddApatow. Rogen and Goldberg