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* MetafictionalTitle: ''Points of Origin'' was the title of the book [[WritingAboutYourCrimes the real John Leonard Orr was writing about his arson spree]].
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* MetafictionalTitle: ''Points of Origin'' was the title of the book [[WritingAboutYourCrimes the real John Leonard Orr was writing about his arson spree]].
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* WritingAboutYourCrimes: One of the film's subplots is Orr writing a novel about the arson spree that he is orchestrating, with him as the hero. It's more proof that he is a very egocentric madman beneath it all. He also adds additional crimes for his fictional version of the arsonist (such as being [[GratuitousRape a rapist]]) that are more disturbing to the rest of the cast once they figure out he is the real arsonist.
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* WritingAboutYourCrimes: WritingAboutYourCrime: One of the film's subplots is Orr writing a novel about the arson spree that he is orchestrating, with him as the hero. It's more proof that he is a very egocentric madman beneath it all. He also adds additional crimes for his fictional version of the arsonist (such as being [[GratuitousRape a rapist]]) that are more disturbing to the rest of the cast once they figure out he is the real arsonist.
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* WorkingWithTheEx: Both Lang and Ambria are assigned to work on the task force. It is awkward for Lang, who admits that she dumped him when she met someone else.
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* WorkingWithTheEx: Both Lang and Ambria are assigned to work on the task force. It is awkward for Lang, who admits that she dumped him when she met someone else.else.
* WritingAboutYourCrimes: One of the film's subplots is Orr writing a novel about the arson spree that he is orchestrating, with him as the hero. It's more proof that he is a very egocentric madman beneath it all. He also adds additional crimes for his fictional version of the arsonist (such as being [[GratuitousRape a rapist]]) that are more disturbing to the rest of the cast once they figure out he is the real arsonist.
* WritingAboutYourCrimes: One of the film's subplots is Orr writing a novel about the arson spree that he is orchestrating, with him as the hero. It's more proof that he is a very egocentric madman beneath it all. He also adds additional crimes for his fictional version of the arsonist (such as being [[GratuitousRape a rapist]]) that are more disturbing to the rest of the cast once they figure out he is the real arsonist.
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* FirefighterArsonist: The whole movie is a {{Dramatization}} of the hunt for RealLife serial arsonist John Leonard Orr--a fire captain and arson investigator for the Glendale Fire Department in Southern California.
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* DetectiveMole: Because no member of the investigation team suspects Orr (at first), they consult him, bring him to the crime scenes and even ask him to create a psychological profile of the arsonist.
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* HiredToHuntYourself: Because no member of the investigation team suspects Orr (at first), they consult him, bring him to the crime scenes and even ask him to create a psychological profile of the arsonist.
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* HiredToHuntYourself: DetectiveMole: Because no member of the investigation team suspects Orr (at first), they consult him, bring him to the crime scenes and even ask him to create a psychological profile of the arsonist.
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* RomanAClef: Orr's unpublished manuscript for a novel about an arsonist includes details only the arsonist would know.
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* RomanAClef: Orr's unpublished manuscript for a novel about an arsonist includes details only the arsonist would know. Wanda points out that his hero is VERY similar to Orr and finds it creepy.
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* BrokenPedestal: At first, Lang refuses to believe that Orr, the man who taught him everything he knows, could be responsible for all the fires. But when Orr is arrested and found guilty, Lang just looks like a kicked puppy.
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* [[invoked]]GratuitousRapeScene: Orr's novel includes one by the arsonist. When Wanda reads the manuscript, she is repulsed by it but he claims he put it in to make it more realistic.
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* [[invoked]]GratuitousRapeScene: Orr's novel includes one by the arsonist. [[invoked]]GratuitousRape: When Wanda reads the manuscript, she is repulsed by it a scene where the arsonist stalks and rapes a girl but he claims he put it in to make it more realistic.
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* ArcWords: "If you wanna catch this guy, you must recognize that this is about ego."
* [[invoked]]GratuitousRapeScene: Orr's novel includes one by the arsonist. When Wanda reads the manuscript, she is repulsed by it but he claims he put it in to make it more realistic.
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* HistoricalBeautyUpgrade: Underneath the glasses, the mustache, and the ill-fitting clothes, it is still Ray Liotta. The real life Orr was nowhere near as handsome.
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* HistoricalBeautyUpgrade: Underneath the glasses, the mustache, and the ill-fitting clothes, beer belly, it is still Ray Liotta. The real life Orr was nowhere near as handsome.
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* DaydreamSurprise: When Orr is arrested, he daydreams that he fights back by pulling out [[GunsAkimbo dual]] [[HandCannon heavy-caliber revolvers]] and blasting all of the cops away in a display of acrobatic GunFu when he is actually being dragged to the patrol car.
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* DaydreamSurprise: When Orr is arrested, he [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lmGg8llb-M daydreams that he fights back back]] by pulling out [[GunsAkimbo dual]] dual handguns]] (one of which is [[HandCannon heavy-caliber revolvers]] an absolutely massive revolver]]) and blasting all of the cops away in a display of acrobatic GunFu when he is actually being dragged to the patrol car.
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Lang says he knows Orr and refuses to believe he is the arsonist. Matassa asks Lang: "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" Afterwards, Lang goes on to spy on Orr.
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Lang says he knows Orr and refuses to believe he is the arsonist. ATF agent Matassa asks Lang: "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" Afterwards, Lang goes on to spy on Orr.
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* JurisdictionFriction: The District attorney wants to brings in the feds but Orr claims that the ATF is just a bunch of bureaucrats disguised as bomb experts and that HE is better alone.
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** The Districtattorney Attorney wants to brings in the feds but Orr claims that the ATF is just a bunch of bureaucrats disguised as bomb experts and that HE is works better alone.alone.
** Lang accuses Camello of siding with the ATF "against one of us" for insisting they follow ATF protocol and put Orr under surveillance. Camello retorts that if indeed Orr is the arsonist, "he is not 'one of us'."
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** Lang accuses Camello of siding with the ATF "against one of us" for insisting they follow ATF protocol and put Orr under surveillance. Camello retorts that if indeed Orr is the arsonist, "he is not 'one of us'."
* NoTellMotel: After being told that Orr is the arsonist and refusing to believe it, Lang follows Orr in his car and sees him meet a woman at a sleazy hotel.
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* ThisCannotBe: When told that Orr is the arsonist, Lang thinks it is a joke, then insists someone made a mistake with the fingerprint match. Matassa tells him that they only need a six-point match to make a positive ID. Orr's prints yielded a ''thirteen-point'' match to that left. Lang insists it is impossible because Orr is a workaholic and is always at all the scenes. Matassa's ArmorPiercingQuestion, "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" makes him storm out.
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* ThisCannotBe: When Lang is told that Orr is the arsonist, Lang arsonist and he first thinks it is a joke, then insists someone made a mistake with the fingerprint match. Matassa tells him that they only need a six-point match to make a positive ID. Orr's prints yielded a ''thirteen-point'' match to that left. Lang insists it is impossible because Orr is a workaholic and is always at all the scenes. Matassa's ArmorPiercingQuestion, "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" makes him storm out.
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''Point of Origin'' is a 2002 Creator/{{HBO}} original drama film, starring Creator/RayLiotta, Creator/JohnLeguizamo, and Creator/ColmFeore.
In TheEighties, California is devastated by a series of fires. Arson investigator and fire captain John Leonard Orr (Liotta) is looking for the responsible party.
!!Tropes present in this film
* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Lang says he knows Orr and refuses to believe he is the arsonist. Matassa asks Lang: "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" Afterwards, Lang goes on to spy on Orr.
* BasedOnATrueStory: "This film is based upon a true story."
* DeathOfAChild: In the first fire scene shown, a little kid can be seen looking around and calling for his grandma. He succumbs to the smoke. During the investigation, Orr shows the little boy's charred corpse to Lang.
* HistoricalBeautyUpgrade: Underneath the glasses, the mustache, and the ill-fitting clothes, it is still Ray Liotta. The real life Orr was nowhere near as handsome.
* JurisdictionFriction: The District attorney wants to brings in the feds but Orr claims that the ATF is just a bunch of bureaucrats disguised as bomb experts and that HE is better alone.
* KillerCop: Orr may work for the fire department but given that he is an arson investigator, his job falls under the law enforcement category. And by starting fires that led to deaths, he qualifies as a killer.
* MaleGaze: The camera makes sure we get a good look at the girl in the short shorts and skimpy top in a very thin fabric. The arsonist makes a big deal of admiring her top to try and cop a feel.
* PaperThinDisguise: The arsonist's disguise is a wig and sunglasses.
* ParentalNeglect: Orr spends all his time at home in the basement, either working in the investigation or on his writing. His wife Wanda tells him she spends more time with his kids than he does, and she is not even their real mother.
* TheProfiler: Orr gives a profile of the arsonist to the task force: he starts the fires on stores frequented by women, using a time-delayed device. He has trouble in his relationships with women, he is a loner, etc.
* TheReveal: Orr, the arson investigator, is the one ''causing'' the fires. That is why he is so good at locating the incendiary devices, as Matassa points out.
* RomanAClef: Orr's unpublished manuscript for a novel about an arsonist includes details only the arsonist would know.
* {{Tagline}}: "When fire becomes an obsession... truth becomes stranger than fiction."
* ThisCannotBe: When told that Orr is the arsonist, Lang thinks it is a joke, then insists someone made a mistake with the fingerprint match. Matassa tells him that they only need a six-point match to make a positive ID. Orr's prints yielded a ''thirteen-point'' match to that left. Lang insists it is impossible because Orr is a workaholic and is always at all the scenes. Matassa's ArmorPiercingQuestion, "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" makes him storm out.
* WeNeedADistraction: It is pointed out that fires occur at the same time when a conference on arson is taking place. In other words, leaving the fire stations understaffed.
* WorkingWithTheEx: Both Lang and Ambria are assigned to work on the task force. It is awkward for Lang, who admits that she dumped him when she met someone else.
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''Point of Origin'' is a 2002 Creator/{{HBO}} original drama film, starring Creator/RayLiotta, Creator/JohnLeguizamo, and Creator/ColmFeore.
In TheEighties, California is devastated by a series of fires. Arson investigator and fire captain John Leonard Orr (Liotta) is looking for the responsible party.
!!Tropes present in this film
* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Lang says he knows Orr and refuses to believe he is the arsonist. Matassa asks Lang: "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" Afterwards, Lang goes on to spy on Orr.
* BasedOnATrueStory: "This film is based upon a true story."
* DeathOfAChild: In the first fire scene shown, a little kid can be seen looking around and calling for his grandma. He succumbs to the smoke. During the investigation, Orr shows the little boy's charred corpse to Lang.
* HistoricalBeautyUpgrade: Underneath the glasses, the mustache, and the ill-fitting clothes, it is still Ray Liotta. The real life Orr was nowhere near as handsome.
* JurisdictionFriction: The District attorney wants to brings in the feds but Orr claims that the ATF is just a bunch of bureaucrats disguised as bomb experts and that HE is better alone.
* KillerCop: Orr may work for the fire department but given that he is an arson investigator, his job falls under the law enforcement category. And by starting fires that led to deaths, he qualifies as a killer.
* MaleGaze: The camera makes sure we get a good look at the girl in the short shorts and skimpy top in a very thin fabric. The arsonist makes a big deal of admiring her top to try and cop a feel.
* PaperThinDisguise: The arsonist's disguise is a wig and sunglasses.
* ParentalNeglect: Orr spends all his time at home in the basement, either working in the investigation or on his writing. His wife Wanda tells him she spends more time with his kids than he does, and she is not even their real mother.
* TheProfiler: Orr gives a profile of the arsonist to the task force: he starts the fires on stores frequented by women, using a time-delayed device. He has trouble in his relationships with women, he is a loner, etc.
* TheReveal: Orr, the arson investigator, is the one ''causing'' the fires. That is why he is so good at locating the incendiary devices, as Matassa points out.
* RomanAClef: Orr's unpublished manuscript for a novel about an arsonist includes details only the arsonist would know.
* {{Tagline}}: "When fire becomes an obsession... truth becomes stranger than fiction."
* ThisCannotBe: When told that Orr is the arsonist, Lang thinks it is a joke, then insists someone made a mistake with the fingerprint match. Matassa tells him that they only need a six-point match to make a positive ID. Orr's prints yielded a ''thirteen-point'' match to that left. Lang insists it is impossible because Orr is a workaholic and is always at all the scenes. Matassa's ArmorPiercingQuestion, "Did you ever wonder why John was ''so'' good at finding these time-delayed devices?" makes him storm out.
* WeNeedADistraction: It is pointed out that fires occur at the same time when a conference on arson is taking place. In other words, leaving the fire stations understaffed.
* WorkingWithTheEx: Both Lang and Ambria are assigned to work on the task force. It is awkward for Lang, who admits that she dumped him when she met someone else.
