Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Film / MoreDeadThanAlive

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* InexperiencedKiller: Billy Valance. A trick shot artist in Ruffalo's traveling shooting show, Billy believes that he is great gunslinger and a ruthless killer, but has never been in a real gunfight. Cain keeps showing him up by demonstrating that things are different when the target can shoot back: such as slapping him in the face before he can draw his gun. The only person Billy manages to kill is [[spoiler:Ruffalo]] who is unarmed. And this act puts Cain on his trail looking for revenge.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MeaningfulName: The protagonist [[NameOfCain Cain]] is steeped in blood that he can never wash away, no matter how hard he tries. His dogged pursuer is named Karma, and Cain cannot escape, no matter how far or long he runs. Eventually [[spoiler:Karma strikes him down without warning or mercy, only explaining afterward that this was payback for the murders Cain had committed in his previous life.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MedicineShow: Showman Mark Ruffalo runs a variant, in that he doesn't hawk any medicines, but runs the Shooting Shoe & Death Display: essentially a miniature wild west show with marksmanship and trick shooting displays and a exhibit of items of dubious provenance purporting to be connected with the deaths of various famous denizens of TheWildWest.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NameOfCain: The protagonist is named Cain. [[OnlyOneName Just Cain]]. A gunslinger released from prison after 18 years, Cain is trying to go straight but finding it hard as people cannot see him as anything more than a brutal killer. Not helped by people continually referring to him by his old nickname: "Killer" Cain.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GhostTown: Cain first stumbles into the ghost town of Drywood as he is making his way back from the ambush at the mine. It is here that he first meets Monica, who is painting the deserted town as a symbol of [[TwlightOfTheOldWest the dying of the West]]. Later Billy flees here after [[spoiler:murdering Ruffalo and stealing the cashbox]], and it is here that Cain has his final showdown with Luke Santee after Santee has [[spoiler:killed Billy]].

to:

* GhostTown: Cain first stumbles into the ghost town of Drywood as he is making his way back from the ambush at the mine. It is here that he first meets Monica, who is painting the deserted town as a symbol of [[TwlightOfTheOldWest [[TwilightOfTheOldWest the dying of the West]]. Later Billy flees here after [[spoiler:murdering Ruffalo and stealing the cashbox]], and it is here that Cain has his final showdown with Luke Santee after Santee has [[spoiler:killed Billy]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* GhostTown: Cain first stumbles into the ghost town of Drywood as he is making his way back from the ambush at the mine. It is here that he first meets Monica, who is painting the deserted town as a symbol of [[TwlightOfTheOldWest the dying of the West]]. Later Billy flees here after [[spoiler:murdering Ruffalo and stealing the cashbox]], and it is here that Cain has his final showdown with Luke Santee after Santee has [[spoiler:killed Billy]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DestinationDefenestration: After catching up with Luke Santee in the GhostTown [[spoiler:(just after Santee has killed Billy)]], Cain crash tackles him through a plate glass window and the pair of them crash out into the street.


Added DiffLines:

* SuperWindowJump: After catching up with Luke Santee in the GhostTown [[spoiler:(just after Santee has killed Billy)]], Cain crash tackles him through a plate glass window and the pair of them crash out into the street.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ARealManIsAKiller: TheGunfighterWannabe Billy Valance demands to know why he is being paid less to perform in the shooting show than Cain, especially as he is the better shot. His boss Mark Ruffalo curtly explains that he is just a kid who is a good shot, while Cain is the real deal, a veteran gunslinger who has killed men, and people will always pay more to see a killer. Unfortunately, this pushes the already unstable Billy over the edge.


Added DiffLines:

* SoftGlass: Cain crash tackles Luke Santee out through a plate glass window, with neither of them suffering a scratch. An odd application of this trope in a movie that otherwise does not shy away from showing the brutality of combat.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EmbarrassingNickname: Cain does not like his old nicknamed of "Killer" Cain as he is attempting to go straight, put the past behind him and make a new start. But he is forced to use it to earn a living while appearing in Ruffalo's Shooting Show & Death Display.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ThrowawayGuns: During the prison break at the start of the film, one of the gang members empties his revolver at the prison guards, and then casually tosses it aside as he draws another.

Added: 341

Changed: 2

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: Showman Mark Ruffalo speaks this way when drumming up business for his Shooting Show & Death Display:
-->"Step right up and see the spectacular shooting show and death display. See the world's greatest gunslinger. He's sharp. He's a shootin' shark. So step right up and get your tickets here, ladies and gentlemen."



* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: When [[OnlyOneName Cain]] finally has enough of Billy's whining, threats and generally being a {{Jerkass}}, he declares that form now own Billy will address him as 'Mr. Cain'.

to:

* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: When [[OnlyOneName Cain]] finally has enough of Billy's whining, threats and generally being a {{Jerkass}}, he declares that form from now own Billy will address him as 'Mr. Cain'.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* HollywoodCostuming: Set in 1890s, but all of the women sport late 1960s hairstyles. Otherwise the costuming is pretty accurate.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DownerEnding: See ShootTheShaggyDog below.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MeaningfulEcho: Two seemingly casual lines return with a vengeance:
** "Never holster an empty gun." The first time this is given as a piece of gunslinger advice from Cain to TheGunfighterWannabe Billy as Billy is bragging about what a badass gunslinger he would have been. The second time [[spoiler:outlaw Luke Santee says to Billy after Billy has beaten him to the draw only to discover that his pistol is empty because he didn't reload it after murdering Ruffalo. It seems Billy [[FatalFlaw never listens]]. Luke guns him down.]]
** "That's the cost of one life, not twelve!" First said by Cassidy in sour grapes mode when he doesn't think Cain should have been let out of prison even after serving 18 years. The second time [[spoiler:occurs after Cain is gunned down by Karma. A hysterical Monica asks him why he had down that, when Cain had paid for his crimes by spending 18 years in prison. Karma coldly replies with this line and then rides off.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* LetsYouAndHimFight: Billy attempts to goad Cain and Cassidy into having a gunfight: first siding with one of them, and then the other, and even handing Cain a gun when he says doesn't have one. It is only Cain's steadfast refusal to pick up the gun that prevents a fight. As Billy's pleas for them to shoot each other become more desperate and pathetic, Cassidy realises how stupid the whole thing is and walks ways. Billy suffers a VillainousBreakdown as he sees that the shootout isn't happening.

to:

* LetsYouAndHimFight: Billy attempts to goad Cain and Cassidy into having a gunfight: first siding with one of them, and then the other, and even handing Cain a gun when he says doesn't have one. It is only Cain's steadfast refusal to pick up the gun that prevents a fight. As Billy's pleas for them to shoot each other become more desperate and pathetic, Cassidy realises how stupid the whole thing is and walks ways. Billy suffers a VillainousBreakdown as he sees that the shootout isn't happening.happening: slumping on the ground and all but weeping.




to:

* VillainousBreakdown: Billy suffers one when he fails to [[LetsYouandHimFight goad Cain and Cassidy into killing each other in a gunfight]]: slumping on the ground and all but weeping. This is the first solid indication that Billy is not just immature and arrogant, but actually mentally ill.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* LetsYouAndHimFight: Billy attempts to goad Cain and Cassidy into having a gunfight: first siding with one of them, and then the other, and even handing Cain a gun when he says doesn't have one. It is only Cain's steadfast refusal to pick up the gun that prevents a fight. As Billy's pleas for them to shoot each other become more desperate and pathetic, Cassidy realises how stupid the whole thing is and walks ways. Billy suffers a VillainousBreakdown as he sees that the shootout isn't happening.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DramaticAmmoDepletion: TheGunfighterWannabe Billy Valence beats outlaw Luke Santee to the draw, only for the hammer to fall on a spent shell in the chamber. He pulls the trigger again and agin with no reult, and he realises with growing horror, that he never reloaded his pistol [[spoiler:after murdering Ruffalo]]. Earlier in the film, Cain had warned him to never holster an empty pistol, [[FatalFlaw but Billy didn't listen]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BriefcaseBlaster: the attorney Karma, who has been following Cain for most of the film, pulls a gun from his attache case [[spoiler:and casually shoots Cain dead]]


Added DiffLines:

* FatalFlaw: Billy's arrogance and refusal to listen. Following a discussion about gunfights in the old days, Cain tells him never to holster an empty pistol. He is eventually killed when he beats Luke Santee to the draw [[spoiler:only to discover that he never reloaded his pistol after murdering Ruffalo, and he tries to shoot Luke with an empty gun]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* GatlingGood: Much of Luke Santee's gang is killed by the Gatling gun at the prison during the attempted prison break.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: When [[OnlyOneName Cain]] finally has enough of Billy's whining, threats and generally being a {{Jerkass}}, he declares that form now own Billy will address him as 'Mr. Cain'.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* OnlyOneName: Cain. People sometimes refer to him by his old nickname of "Killer" Cain, although he does not like this. When he first meets Monica, he gives his name as 'just Cain'. He then clarifies that he means 'only Cain', and not that his name is 'Just Cain'.

Added: 179

Changed: 302

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BodybagTrick: Members of Luke Santee's gang conceal themselves inside the coffins TheUndertaker is bringing into the prison to collect the bodies of the executed prisoners.

to:

* BadassBystander: The prison break by Luke Santee's gang is foiled by one of the prison guards who does not go down as easily as expected. He instead kills several of the gang and buys the rest of the guards time to rally and repel the assault. This character has no lines and is not named.
* BodybagTrick: Members of Luke Santee's gang conceal themselves inside the coffins TheUndertaker the {{Undertaker}} is bringing into the prison to collect the bodies of the executed prisoners.



* TheUndertaker: A typical Western undertaker is forced at gunpoint to aid the Santee gang in their attempt at BreakingOutTheBoss.

to:

* TheUndertaker: {{Undertaker}}: A typical Western undertaker is forced at gunpoint to aid the Santee gang in their attempt at BreakingOutTheBoss.

Added: 275

Changed: 130

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* JustGotOutOfJail: The 'Winter' segment deals with Cain being just released prison. No one will give him a job and people are after him for his earlier crimes. He finally takes an offer from a showman named Ruffalo to perform as "Killer Cain" in his traveling shooting show.




to:

* TheUndertaker: A typical Western undertaker is forced at gunpoint to aid the Santee gang in their attempt at BreakingOutTheBoss.

Added: 261

Changed: 719

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* ShootTheShaggyDog: The entire movie focuses on a guy known as "Killer" Cain trying to settle down with an honest living after spending 18 years in jail for a string of murders he committed prior to the movie. Being an ex-criminal, it's hard for him to find work. The only job he can keep is one at a shooting show. However there, he has to put up with an insolent young co-worker of his. To make things worse, he's made plenty of enemies in the past. By the end of the movie, [[spoiler: he not only gets the ranch he wants, but he gets to marry the woman he loves in a classic Western movie fashion. But then one of his old enemies (apparently the guy's father was one of Cain's victims) shows up and guns him down]].
* TwilightOfTheOldWest: A major theme of the film is how much the West has changed in the 18 years Cain has been in prison. Cain is stunned the first time he sees a bicycle and a telephone, and Ruffalo says that men no longer wear guns unless they're traveling.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EvilIsPetty: After luring Cain into an ambush and beating him into unconsciousness, Luke Santee steals back the $2 he had paid Cain to trick him into the ambush.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* PercussivePrevention: Cain stops Wes from joining the escape attempt, and probably getting killed, by punching him hard in the stomach and knocking him out.

Added: 90

Changed: 241

Removed: 153

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[quoteright:336:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/more_dead_than_alive.jpg]]



* DescriptionCut: The scene dissolves from an oil lantern in the barbershop in the small town of Las Rainas to a gas lamp in the modern city of Prescott.




to:

* MatchCut: The scene cuts from an oil lantern in the barbershop in the small town of Las Rainas to a gas lamp in the modern city of Prescott. A later scene cuts from Ruffalo dropping a handful of coins to Billy dropping a handful of shells.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DescriptionCut: The scene dissolves from an oil lantern in the barbershop in the small town of Las Rainas to a gas lamp in the modern city of Prescott.

to:

* DescriptionCut: The scene dissolves from an oil lantern in the barbershop in the small town of Las Rainas to a gas lamp in the modern city of Prescott.Prescott.
* TheGunfighterWannabe: Billy Valance. A trick shot artist in Ruffalo's traveling shooting show, Billy believes that he is great gunslinger, but has never been in a real gunfight. Cain keeps showing him up by demonstrating that things are different when the target can shoot back: such as slapping him in the face before he can draw his gun.

----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

''More Dead Than Alive'' is a 1969 film directed by Robert Sparr and produced by Aubrey Schenck, starring Creator/ClintWalker, Creator/VincentPrice and Anne Francis.

An incarcerated killer named Cain (Walker) is released from prison after 18 years and wants to settle down as a rancher without ever having to touch a gun again. But no one will give him a job and people are after him for his earlier crimes. He finally takes an offer from a showman named Ruffalo (Price) to perform as "Killer Cain" in his traveling shooting show. However, after 18 years without practice, Cain is not as good as he once was with a gun. Cain tries to find redemption and peace when he falls in love and eventually marries Monica Alton (Francis), an artist from the east who came out west to paint. Yet Cain's reputation continues to dog him as past enemies try to settle old scores and a young sharpshooter rival with mental issues in Ruffalo's show named Billy Valence (Paul Hampton) looking to build his reputation by killing Cain.

!!Tropes in ''More Dead Than Alive'' include:

* BodybagTrick: Members of Luke Santee's gang conceal themselves inside the coffins TheUndertaker is bringing into the prison to collect the bodies of the executed prisoners.
* BreakingOutTheBoss: Luke Santee and his gang break into the prison to free Luke's brother Wes.
* CaptivityHarmonica: One of the prisoners watching the execution is playing a harmonica. This serves as a diegetic soundtrack for the execution.
* DescriptionCut: The scene dissolves from an oil lantern in the barbershop in the small town of Las Rainas to a gas lamp in the modern city of Prescott.

Top