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* TenLittleMurderVictims: It was widely considered an unofficial adaptation of ''And Then There Were None''. That said, this case is a combination of Type B and Type K.

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* TenLittleMurderVictims: It was widely considered an unofficial adaptation of ''And Then There Were None''. That said, this case is a combination of Type B C and Type K.
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* TenLittleMurderVictims: It was widely considered an unofficial adaptation of ''And Then There Were None''.

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* TenLittleMurderVictims: It was widely considered an unofficial adaptation of ''And Then There Were None''. That said, this case is a combination of Type B and Type K.
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** [[spoiler: J.D.]] getting his lower extremities practically flash frozen couldn't have felt that great.

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** [[spoiler: J.D.]] getting his lower extremities practically flash frozen couldn't have felt that great. It fact he even exclaims that it's burning him.

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* AgonyOfTheFeet: [[spoiler:Nicole]] smokes a cigarette, not knowing it has been laced with [[HollywoodAcid acid]], several drops of which eat through her boot. She briefly stomps her foot in pain [[OhCrap before realizing she has other problems]].

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* AgonyOfTheFeet: AgonyOfTheFeet:
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[[spoiler:Nicole]] smokes a cigarette, not knowing it has been laced with [[HollywoodAcid acid]], several drops of which eat through her boot. She briefly stomps her foot in pain [[OhCrap before realizing she has other problems]].problems]].
** [[spoiler: J.D.]] getting his lower extremities practically flash frozen couldn't have felt that great.
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** It's soon established that the killer is using traps and schedules to knock off one or two members of the group at a time, and yet no one just considers staying put in the forensic room they know isn't trapped and just waiting the thing out. Sure, the killer is with them, but he's outnumbered and you'd think one person would figure out such a simple solution.

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** It's soon established that the killer is using traps and schedules to knock off one or two members of the group at a time, and yet no one just considers staying put in the forensic room they know isn't trapped and just waiting the thing out. Sure, the killer is with them, but he's outnumbered and you'd think one person would figure out such a simple solution. Several characters, including ''[[HidingInPlainsight the killer]]'' themself, actually suggest this but no one adheres to it.
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* DecoyProtagonist: [[spoiler:J.D.]] at a push. The actor who plays him is [[spoiler:definitely the most well-known of the main cast,]] with the possible exception of [[spoiler:Val Kilmer, who also ends up dead.]] WordOfGod is that no specific character was set up to be the lead, to give the impression that AnyoneCanDie.

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* DecoyProtagonist: [[spoiler:J.D.]] at a push. The actor who plays him is [[spoiler:definitely the most well-known of the main cast,]] with the possible exception of [[spoiler:Val Kilmer, who also ends up dead.dead, and James Todd Smith aka LL Cool J, who lives.]] WordOfGod is that no specific character was set up to be the lead, to give the impression that AnyoneCanDie.
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* TheTeam: JD is TheLeader, Sara is TheChick and Gabe is the SixthRanger. Elsewhere Bobby is TheAce, Nicole shares TheSmartGuy role with him and also TheBigGuy with Vince. Lucas claims to be the best driver and Rafe isn't really developed enough to slot into a role.

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* TheTeam: JD is TheLeader, Sara is TheChick TheHeart and Gabe is the SixthRanger. Elsewhere Bobby is TheAce, Nicole shares TheSmartGuy role with him and also TheBigGuy with Vince. Lucas claims to be the best driver and Rafe isn't really developed enough to slot into a role.
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* UndignifiedDeath: COmbined with DroppedABridgeOnHim in Harris's case; he gets tortured, forced to watch his students die off one by one, and then is murdered and grotesquely strung up like a marionette for the remaining survivors to find.

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* UndignifiedDeath: COmbined Combined with DroppedABridgeOnHim in Harris's case; he gets tortured, forced to watch his students die off one by one, and then is murdered and grotesquely strung up like a marionette for the remaining survivors to find.
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** Implied. Gabe notes that J.D.'s desire to be the leader was because he lacked one in his own life.

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** Implied. Gabe notes that J.D.'s desire to be the leader was because he lacked one a father figure in his own life.

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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Vince]].

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* AssholeVictim: %%* Asshole Victim: [[spoiler:Vince]].



* BigBad: [[spoiler:Lucas Harper]], the SerialKiller stalking the island.


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* HiddenVillain: [[spoiler:Lucas Harper]], the SerialKiller stalking the island.
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* * SacrificialLion: J.D. is the first one killed off to show that this isn't just a simulation anymore.

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* * SacrificialLion: J.D. is the first one killed off to show that this isn't just a simulation anymore.

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* * SacrificialLion: J.D. is the first one killed off to show that this isn't just a simulation anymore.



* SacrificialLion: J.D. is the first one killed off to show that this isn't just a simulation anymore.

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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: If being sprayed form the feet up with liquid nitrogen until you [[LiterallyShatteredLives fall over]] or finding out the hard way that your smokes have laced with HollywoodAcid don't fit this trope, nothing does.

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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: If being sprayed form from the feet up with liquid nitrogen until you [[LiterallyShatteredLives fall over]] or finding out the hard way that your smokes have been laced with HollywoodAcid don't fit this trope, nothing does.


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* SacrificialLion: J.D. is the first one killed off to show that this isn't just a simulation anymore.


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* UndignifiedDeath: COmbined with DroppedABridgeOnHim in Harris's case; he gets tortured, forced to watch his students die off one by one, and then is murdered and grotesquely strung up like a marionette for the remaining survivors to find.
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* FamousLastWords:
** "You." [[spoiler:Vince.]]
** "[[DefiantToTheEnd Well, go on and finish it]]." [[spoiler:Jake Harris.]]
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* UnwinnableTrainingSimulation: The opening DangerRoomColdOpen. The goal of the training simulation was to apprehend the two killers without discharging any rounds. Sarah was under the impression that successfully completing the simulation would mean rescuing the two abducted girls unharmed.
-->'''Sarah:''' Then how could we have saved the girls at the old hotel?
-->'''Harris:''' You couldn't. They were dead no matter what you did.
-->'''Sarah:''' What's the point if we couldn't have saved them?
-->'''Harris:''' The point is [[ItGetsEasier to get used to it.]]
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* RedHerring: By the time the cast is whittled down to about five people, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Jake Harris, the supervisor,]] is the real killer when he begins to taunt them through the loudspeakers set up on the island. They find him inside his lair, [[spoiler:only to discover that the speakers were playing a pre-recorded tape and Harris himself had been tortured to death.]]

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* RedHerring: By the time the cast team is whittled down to about five people, it's revealed that [[spoiler:Jake Harris, the supervisor,]] is has been on the real killer island for the duration of the exercise, when he begins to taunt them the team through the loudspeakers set up on the island. They find track him inside down to his lair, [[spoiler:only to discover that the speakers were playing a pre-recorded tape and Harris himself had been tortured to death.]]
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* RecycledInSpace: As noted above it's effectively ''Literature/AndThenThereWereNone'', with the key differences that (i) all of the characters are law enforcement, and knowledgeable in forensics and profiling; and (ii) the killer extensively employs traps to kill their victims rather than killing them all directly.
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--> [[spoiler:'''Vince''']]: You.
--> [[spoiler:'''Jake Harris''']]: [[DefiantToTheEnd Well, go on and finish it]].

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--> [[spoiler:'''Vince''']]: You.
--> [[spoiler:'''Jake Harris''']]: [[DefiantToTheEnd
** "You." [[spoiler:Vince.]]
** "[[DefiantToTheEnd
Well, go on and finish it]]." [[spoiler:Jake Harris.]]

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* UsefulNotes/TheLostColonyOfRoanoke: While the agents are unconscious from the spiked coffee, the killer daubs a single character in phosphorescent material on each of their jackets, which spell out "Croatone". Vince explains the story of how the colonists of Roanoke vanished seemingly without a trace in the 16th century, the only clue being the word "Croatone" carved into a tree. Sara surmises that the killer wants to create a similar unsolvable mystery: how did nine people go to a secluded island in the middle of nowhere and then simply vanish?



* OntologicalMystery: The movie has definite shades of this. The characters do know ''why'' they're on a secluded island: as part of an FBI profiler training exercise. It doesn't take long before they're completely cut of from the outside world and it turns out that there's a killer amongst them who starts murdering them one by one.

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* OntologicalMystery: The movie has definite shades of this. The characters do know ''why'' they're on a secluded island: as part of an FBI profiler training exercise. It doesn't take long before they're completely cut of off from the outside world and it turns out that there's a killer amongst them who starts murdering them one by one.
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* TaintedTobacco: Nicole, being a chain smoker, ends up being killed by an arsenic-laced cigarette placed by the serial killer that burns through her lungs.
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* ComplexityAddiction: Justified and ultimate the killer's undoing. He doesn't want to kill the group in a mundane fashion because that would be unsatisfying. He wants them to know he's doing it and fall for it anyway as proof that he can outsmart them. This allows Sarah to expose him.
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** Vince represents a different sort of Sloth. The trap with the water pipe banks on him not trusting anyone with his gun, which is moral laziness. [[spoiler: In this case he overcomes it and trusts Gabe]].

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** Vince represents a different sort of Sloth. Sloth; being injured in the line of duty and left wheechair bound has caused him to be overly reliant on his gun. The trap with the water pipe banks on him not trusting anyone with his gun, it, which is moral laziness. [[spoiler: In this case he overcomes it and trusts Gabe]]. [[spoiler:It still comes back to bite him in the butt(or rather, the face) later.]]
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* SelfMadeOrphan: The killer when he was just a lad. He assumed the police would take him away when they investigated the scene, but to his astonishment nobody even suspected him of causing his parent's deaths, which just fed his misantropy even more.

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* SelfMadeOrphan: The killer when he was just a lad. He assumed the police would take him away when they investigated the scene, but to his astonishment nobody even suspected him of causing his parent's parents' deaths, which just fed his misantropy even more.
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* SelfMadeOrphan: The killer when he was just a lad.

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* SelfMadeOrphan: The killer when he was just a lad. He assumed the police would take him away when they investigated the scene, but to his astonishment nobody even suspected him of causing his parent's deaths, which just fed his misantropy even more.
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* GutturalGrowler: J.D.
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** And the liquid nitrogen tanks, which are uses to kill [[spoiler:J.D.]]

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* AgonyOfTheFeet: One of the female FBI agents smokes a cigarette, not knowing it has been laced with [[HollywoodAcid acid]], several drops of which eat through her boot. She briefly stomps her foot in pain [[OhCrap before realizing she has other problems]].

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* AgonyOfTheFeet: One of the female FBI agents [[spoiler:Nicole]] smokes a cigarette, not knowing it has been laced with [[HollywoodAcid acid]], several drops of which eat through her boot. She briefly stomps her foot in pain [[OhCrap before realizing she has other problems]].problems]].
* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Vince]].


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* LargeHam: [[spoiler:Harper]] after he is revealed as the killer.


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* TheSmartGuy: Bobby.
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* FailedASpotCheck: In a DangerRoomColdOpen situation, two FBI trainees enter a house to save a serial killer's latest victim and declare the area safe before they're both "killed" by a second perpetrator. Their supervisor later chews them out about all the telltale signs they missed that the killer might have had an accomplice, including two cars parked in the front.

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* FailedASpotCheck: In a DangerRoomColdOpen situation, two FBI trainees Sara and J.D. enter a house to save a serial killer's latest victim and declare the area safe before they're both "killed" by a second perpetrator. Their supervisor Harris later chews them out about all the telltale signs they missed that the killer might have had an accomplice, including two cars parked in the front.

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* FacialHorror: [[spoiler:Vince]] after his gun explodes when he fires it.



* FamousLastWords:
--> [[spoiler:'''Vince''']]: You.
--> [[spoiler:'''Jake Harris''']]: [[DefiantToTheEnd Well, go on and finish it]].



* {{Foreshadowing}}: Since the method of death is directly linked to the person's personality, this entire movie is foreshadowing from the get-go. The first two to three scenes set up the entire shaky house of cards. The only trap that isn't really foreshadowed is [[spoiler: Headless Coffee Guy]] (with a HandWave of another character referring to him as a [[spoiler:"coffee junkie"]] several hours later). Another major but subtle instance is [[spoiler:Agent Jensen describes Lucas as having an addictive personality. He's addicted to killing.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Since the method of death is directly linked to the person's personality, this entire movie is foreshadowing from the get-go. The first two to three scenes set up the entire shaky house of cards. The only trap that isn't really foreshadowed is [[spoiler: Headless Coffee Guy]] [[spoiler:Rafe]] (with a HandWave of another character Sara referring to him as a [[spoiler:"coffee junkie"]] several hours later). Another major but subtle instance is [[spoiler:Agent Jensen describes Lucas as having an addictive personality. He's addicted to killing.]]


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* FreudianExcuse:
** Sara is terrified of the water because of her sister being drowned and raped.
** Vince refuses to be without a gun because he was shot and paralyzed.
** Implied. Gabe notes that J.D.'s desire to be the leader was because he lacked one in his own life.

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* BodyHorror: Nicole's death. Turns out that [[HollywoodAcid ac]][[PoisonIsCorrosive id]] ingested via cigs can do a little more than contribute to the chance of getting lung cancer...

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* BodyHorror: Nicole's [[spoiler:Nicole's]] death. Turns out that [[HollywoodAcid ac]][[PoisonIsCorrosive id]] ingested via cigs can do a little more than contribute to the chance of getting lung cancer...



* DeadpanSnarker: Gabe, Bobby, and Rafe.

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* DeadpanSnarker: J.D., Gabe, Bobby, and Rafe.



* DefiantToTheEnd: The recording of [[spoiler:Harris']] death have him taunting the killer and [[spoiler:telling him that he has underestimated the trainees, and they are sure to capture him.]]



** It takes [[spoiler: the killer and the last female standing]] several attempted gunshots to realize that firing underwater messes up your aim.

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** It takes [[spoiler: the killer [[spoiler:Lucas and the last female standing]] Sara]] several attempted gunshots to realize that firing underwater messes up your aim.



* {{Jerkass}}: Vince is confrontational, short-tempered, refuses to obey orders, and whines about almost everything. Not to mention how he expresses a desire to murder Gabe when believing he is the killer.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: [[spoiler:The recording of Harris' torture and death show he truly did care for the trainees and believed in them.]]



* KillItWithIce: In the first trap set by the SerialKiller, a victim's feet get blasted with liquid nitrogen; his ankles then shatter and he falls to the ground and crumbles.

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* KillItWithIce: In the first trap set by the SerialKiller, a victim's [[spoiler:J.D.'s]] feet get blasted with liquid nitrogen; his ankles then shatter and he falls to the ground and crumbles.



* OneDoseFitsAll: At one point, the killer sneaks a sedative into the pot of coffee the team is drinking from. It takes effect a few minutes later and every team member is out cold within about a minute of each other, and similarly wake up within a minute of each other several hours later. Never mind the disparities in how much coffee each team member drank or that the team includes six team members ranging from a burly ScaryBlackMan to two petite women (however, [[spoiler:one of the team members gets murdered while asleep and another is the killer himself]], mitigating this slightly).

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* OneDoseFitsAll: At one point, the killer sneaks a sedative into the pot of coffee the team is drinking from. It takes effect a few minutes later and every team member is out cold within about a minute of each other, and similarly wake up within a minute of each other several hours later. Never mind the disparities in how much coffee each team member drank or that the team includes six team members ranging from a burly ScaryBlackMan to two petite women (however, [[spoiler:one of the team members [[spoiler:Rafe gets murdered while asleep and another is the killer himself]], mitigating this slightly).



* {{Plothole}}: After repeatedly remarking that the simulation "doesn't feel real" without his gun, Vince pulls out and [[DramaticGunCock dramatically cocks]] a gun and he'd concealed in his wheelchair. All the other characters berate him for this, as they'd been specifically told not to bring weapons. However, just minutes earlier, Nic and LL Cool J's character can clearly be seen bearing handguns as they [[spoiler:carry JD's corpse.]]

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* {{Plothole}}: After repeatedly remarking that the simulation "doesn't feel real" without his gun, Vince pulls out and [[DramaticGunCock dramatically cocks]] a gun and he'd concealed in his wheelchair. All the other characters berate him for this, as they'd been specifically told not to bring weapons. However, just minutes earlier, Nic and LL Cool J's character Gave can clearly be seen bearing handguns as they [[spoiler:carry JD's corpse.]]


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* UngratefulBastard: Even after Gabe saves him from a trap, Vince continues to believe him to be the killer and nearly shoots him at one point.

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