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* ABoyAndHisX: Initially played out this way. Josh befriended Lyle... Then after the rest of the family does as well.
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* CallingTheOldManOut: Lyle manages to pull off this trope on Hector without uttering a single word. When Valenti [[spoiler:breaks into crocodile enclosure in order to release Lyle and ends up trapped inside, the titular reptile doesn't seem to bother that other, non-sentient crocs are about to attack his previous owner and eat him. The visibly resentful and hurt look he gives Hector when the latter tries to get him to escape or, well, save him from said crocs says it all]]. He drops his indifferent demeanor only after Valenti apologizes to him and admits his earlier wrongdoings.
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** Lyle manages to pull off this trope on Hector without uttering a single word. When Valenti [[spoiler:breaks into crocodile enclosure in order to release Lyle and ends up trapped inside, the titular reptile doesn't seem to bother that other, non-sentient crocs are about to attack his previous owner and eat him. The visibly resentful and hurt look he gives Hector when the latter tries to get him to escape or, well, save him from said crocs says it all]]. He drops his indifferent demeanor only after Valenti apologizes to him and admits his earlierwrongdoings.wrongdoings.
** And before that, Josh did the same thing too with Hector.
** Lyle manages to pull off this trope on Hector without uttering a single word. When Valenti [[spoiler:breaks into crocodile enclosure in order to release Lyle and ends up trapped inside, the titular reptile doesn't seem to bother that other, non-sentient crocs are about to attack his previous owner and eat him. The visibly resentful and hurt look he gives Hector when the latter tries to get him to escape or, well, save him from said crocs says it all]]. He drops his indifferent demeanor only after Valenti apologizes to him and admits his earlier
** And before that, Josh did the same thing too with Hector.
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* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Hector Valenti, a failing magician whose well-worn mediocre tricks aren't doing his career a favour. He is eccentric with a friendly disposition towards the Primms, but he's not to be mistaken for being naive, as Mr. Grumps can attest to that twice.
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* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Hector Valenti, a failing magician whose well-worn mediocre tricks aren't doing his own career a favour. He is eccentric with a friendly disposition towards the Primms, but he's not to be mistaken for being naive, as Mr. Grumps can attest to that twice.
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* SitcomArchNemesis: Grumps, the chief antagonist of the film, is the annoying neighbor to the protagonists, and his misfortune and antics are mostly played for laughs. His worst onscreen act was to [[spoiler:bribe Hector to sell out Lyle to the zoo]], but then again, Grumps' reactions [[JerkassHasAPoint aren't really unreasonable]].
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* SitcomArchNemesis: Mr. Grumps, the chief antagonist of the film, is the annoying neighbor to the protagonists, and his misfortune and antics are mostly played for laughs. His worst onscreen act was to [[spoiler:bribe Hector to sell out Lyle to the zoo]], but then again, Grumps' reactions [[JerkassHasAPoint aren't really unreasonable]].
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* Cloudcuckoolander: {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Hector Valenti, a failing magician whose well-worn mediocre tricks aren't doing his career a favour. He is eccentric with a friendly disposition towards the Primms, but he's not to be mistaken for being naive, as Mr. Grumps can attest to that twice.
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* SitcomArchNemesis: Grumps, the chief antagonist of the film, is the annoying neighbor to the protagonists, and his misfortune and antics are mostly played for laughs. His worst onscreen act was to [[spoiler:bribe Hector to sell out Lyle to the zoo]], but then again, Grump's reactions [[JerkassHasAPoint aren't really unreasonable]].
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* SitcomArchNemesis: Grumps, the chief antagonist of the film, is the annoying neighbor to the protagonists, and his misfortune and antics are mostly played for laughs. His worst onscreen act was to [[spoiler:bribe Hector to sell out Lyle to the zoo]], but then again, Grump's Grumps' reactions [[JerkassHasAPoint aren't really unreasonable]].
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** In fact, the only moment for Lyle that resembles that of a Crocodile is [[spoiler:attacking another in the zoo and roaring for intimidation. In real life, it isn't rare for Saltwater Crocodiles to fight each other and they are also capable of roaring for different reasons, one of which is aggression]].
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** In fact, fact it is much easier to mention the trope aversion: Lyle's only real crocodile moment for Lyle that resembles that of a Crocodile is [[spoiler:attacking one where he [[spoiler:attacks another in the zoo and roaring roared for intimidation. In real life, it isn't rare for Saltwater Crocodiles to fight each other and they are also capable of roaring for different reasons, one of which is aggression]].
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** In fact, the only moment for Lyle that resembles that of a Crocodile is [[spoiler:attacking another in the zoo and roaring at another. In real life, it isn't rare for Saltwater Crocodiles to fight each other and they are also capable of roaring for different reasons, one of which is aggression]].
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** In fact, the only moment for Lyle that resembles that of a Crocodile is [[spoiler:attacking another in the zoo and roaring at another.for intimidation. In real life, it isn't rare for Saltwater Crocodiles to fight each other and they are also capable of roaring for different reasons, one of which is aggression]].
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** In fact, the only moment for Lyle that resembles that of a Crocodile is [[spoiler:attacking another in the zoo and roaring at another. In real life, it isn't rare for Saltwater Crocodiles to fight each other and they are also capable of roaring for different reasons, one of which is aggression]].
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:In a moment of weakness, Hector accepts Grumps' bribe and sells out Lyle to the zoo, but it doesn't take long for him to remember the bonding moments they had, and realized that Lyle was more than just a business partner. With a change of heart, Hector makes a plan to break him right back out.]]
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:In a moment of weakness, Hector accepts Grumps' bribe and sells out Lyle to the zoo, but it doesn't take long for him to remember the bonding moments they had, and realized that Lyle was is more than just a business partner. With a change of heart, Hector makes a plan to break him right back out.]]
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Hector might have the best intentions when it comes to making himself and Lyle stars, but he never stops to consider what ''Lyle'' wants, and it causes friction between them, especially once he's bonded with the Primms.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: Hector might have the best intentions when it comes to making himself and Lyle stars, but he never stops to consider what ''Lyle'' wants, and it causes friction between them, especially once he's bonded with the Primms. Narratively, it can be a little jarring to see him retain this attitude in the ending - Even after he had apologized to Lyle for abandoning him.
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Hector has a change of heart about selling out Lyle to the zoo, and he makes a plan to break him right back out.]]
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler:Hector has [[spoiler:In a change moment of heart about selling weakness, Hector accepts Grumps' bribe and sells out Lyle to the zoo, but it doesn't take long for him to remember the bonding moments they had, and he realized that Lyle was more than just a business partner. With a change of heart, Hector makes a plan to break him right back out.]]
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* JustEatGilligan: Given almost every character's initial reaction to Lyle was that of shock and fear, the audience can easily point out that the absurdity of an anthropomorphic, bipedal singing crocodile was never addressed at all. Clearly, the film's premise is not meant to be taken seriously, and being a musical it goes with the territory.
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* SitcomArchNemesis: Grumps, the chief antagonist of the film, is the annoying neighbor to the protagonists, and his misfortune and antics are mostly played for laughs. The worst action onscreen he ever did was to bribe Hector to sell out Lyle to the zoo, but then again, Grump's reactions [[JerkassHasAPoint aren't really unreasonable]].
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* SitcomArchNemesis: Grumps, the chief antagonist of the film, is the annoying neighbor to the protagonists, and his misfortune and antics are mostly played for laughs. The His worst action onscreen he ever did act was to bribe [[spoiler:bribe Hector to sell out Lyle to the zoo, zoo]], but then again, Grump's reactions [[JerkassHasAPoint aren't really unreasonable]].
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* InformedSpecies: Some viewers and reviewers have noted that Lyle's design more closely resembles an alligator than a crocodile. This initially caused some speculation as to whether this would be a plot point, however, it is never addressed in the movie.
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* InformedSpecies: Some viewers and reviewers have noted that Lyle's design Lyle more closely resembles an alligator than a crocodile.crocodile. Presumably, the alligators' (relatively) more attractive appearances and friendlier disposition as compared to that of crocodiles might have played a part in the decision to base Lyle's character design on an alligator. This initially caused some speculation as to whether this would be a plot point, however, it is never addressed in the movie.
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: Lyle is supposed to be a crocodile, but his overlapping teeth and wide snout are more akin to an alligator's.
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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: Even ignoring the fact that a crocodilian have neither sound mimicking abilities nor the necessary vocal cords for singing, almost everything else Lyle is supposed to be a crocodile, but his does isn't how real-life crocodilians would or can act - For obvious reasons. Not only that, Lyle's overlapping teeth and wide snout are [[InformedSpecies more akin to an alligator's.alligator's]].
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: For the most part, Lyle is a sweet, friendly crocodile, but he has one moment of ferocity. [[spoiler:Right after Valenti finally convinces Lyle to break out, a non-sentient crocodile from the enclosure attacks him. Lyle interferes by ''grabbing the crocodile's tail with his mouth, throwing it across the enclosure, and winding up slamming it into the bars.'' He then roars at another crocodile to make it back off.]]
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Entry had not been updated following the movie's release (which shows that Loretta belonged to Mr. Grumps, not Josh)
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* GettingEatenIsHarmless: During their first meeting, Lyle accidentally swallows Josh's pet cat, only to harmlessly barf it up later in the same scene. Josh seems aware of this somehow, chasing after him with demands to 'give her back'.
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* GettingEatenIsHarmless: During their first meeting, Lyle accidentally swallows Josh's Mr. Grumps' pet cat, only to harmlessly barf it up later in the same scene. Josh seems aware of this somehow, chasing after him with demands to 'give her back'.
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** A billboard ad for ''VideoGame/JustDance'' with the coach of [[Music/ZaraLarsson "Love Me Land"]] can be seen as cross-promotion to help promote the then upcoming ''Just Dance 2023 Edition'' game, which features "Top of the World" where Lyle himself is the coach.
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* CallingTheOldManOut: Lyle manages to pull off this trope on Hector without uttering a single word. When Valenti [[spoiler:breaks into crocodile enclosure in order to release Lyle and ends up trapped inside, the titular reptile doesn't seem to bother that other, non-sentient crocs are about to attack his previous owner and eat him. The visibly resentful and hurt look he gives Hector when the latter tries to get him to escape or, well, save him from said crocs says it all]]. He drops his indifferent demeanor only after Valenti apologizes to him and admits his earlier wrongdoings.
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* ReptilesAreAbhorrent: [[AvertedTrope Hell, no]]. His somewhat... [[DumpsterDive unhygienic dietary habits]] aside, Lyle is not only incredibly cute, but also the nicest character in entire movie. [[spoiler:Played straight, though, with other crocodiles he's locked up with when put in a zoo]].
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* GettingEatenIsHarmless: During their first meeting, Lyle accidentally swallows Josh's pet cat, only to harmlessly barf it up later in the same scene. Josh seems aware of this somehow, chasing after him with demands to 'give her back'.
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* ChekhovsGun: When talking with Josh regarding having an exotic pet, Kara Delany mentions that she had to keep her pet rattlesnake carefully hidden. [[spoiler:Once Lyle's freedom is secured, she introduces the snake to Hector, and it turns out that it likes to beatbox.]]
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* ChekhovsGun: When talking with Josh regarding having an exotic pet, Kara Delany Trudy mentions that she had to keep her pet rattlesnake carefully hidden. [[spoiler:Once Lyle's freedom is secured, she introduces the snake to Hector, and it turns out that it likes to beatbox.]]
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''Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile'' is a 2022 live action musical comedy film based on the ''Lyle the Crocodile'' children's books by Bernard Waber. It is directed by Will Speck and Josh Gordon (''Film/BladesOfGlory'', ''Film/OfficeChristmasParty'') and features songs written by Music/PasekAndPaul.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle's eccentric owner. The film was released in theatres on October 7th, 2022.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle's eccentric owner. The film was released in theatres on October 7th, 2022.
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''Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile'' is a 2022 live action live-action musical comedy film based on the ''Lyle the Crocodile'' children's books by Bernard Waber. It is Waber, directed by Will Speck and Josh Gordon (''Film/BladesOfGlory'', ''Film/OfficeChristmasParty'') and features featuring songs written by Music/PasekAndPaul.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where theydiscover - and befriend - a discover--and befriend--a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is are Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle's eccentric owner. The film was released in theatres on October 7th, 2022.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they
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''Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile'' is a live action musical comedy film based on the ''Lyle the Crocodile'' children's books by Bernard Waber. It is directed by Will Speck and Josh Gordon (''Film/BladesOfGlory'', ''Film/OfficeChristmasParty'') and features songs written by Music/PasekAndPaul.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle's eccentric owner. The film released in theatres on October 7th, 2022.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle's eccentric owner. The film released in theatres on October 7th, 2022.
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''Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile'' is a 2022 live action musical comedy film based on the ''Lyle the Crocodile'' children's books by Bernard Waber. It is directed by Will Speck and Josh Gordon (''Film/BladesOfGlory'', ''Film/OfficeChristmasParty'') and features songs written by Music/PasekAndPaul.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle's eccentric owner. The film was released in theatres on October 7th, 2022.
The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle's eccentric owner. The film was released in theatres on October 7th, 2022.
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* TheSingingMute: In the second trailer, Josh states that Lyle can only produce words through singing. Indeed, when Lyle isn’t singing he is either heard to be grunting or screaming.
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* TheSingingMute: In the second trailer, Josh states that Lyle can only produce words through singing. Indeed, when Lyle isn’t isn't singing he is either heard to be grunting or screaming.
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** Josh's room is decked out with ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' merchandise, which is clear and in-focus in several shots.
** A poster for ''Theatre/JosephAndTheAmazingTechnicolorDreamcoat'' can be seen in the attic.
** Josh's room is decked out with ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' merchandise, which is clear and in-focus in several shots.
** A poster for ''Theatre/JosephAndTheAmazingTechnicolorDreamcoat'' can be seen in the attic.
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* AdvertisingByAssociation: The film’s marketing plays up the involvement of the songwriters for ''Film/TheGreatestShowman''.
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* AdvertisingByAssociation: The film’s film's marketing plays up the involvement of the songwriters for ''Film/TheGreatestShowman''.
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''Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile'' is a live action musical comedy film based on the ''Lyle the Crocodile'' children’s books by Bernard Waber. It is directed by Will Speck and Josh Gordon (''Film/BladesOfGlory'', ''Film/OfficeChristmasParty'') and features songs written by Music/PasekAndPaul.
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''Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile'' is a live action musical comedy film based on the ''Lyle the Crocodile'' children’s children's books by Bernard Waber. It is directed by Will Speck and Josh Gordon (''Film/BladesOfGlory'', ''Film/OfficeChristmasParty'') and features songs written by Music/PasekAndPaul.
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* BigApplesauce: The trailers show the film’s setting to be New York City, where the Primms have just relocated to. Shots of Central Park and Times Square are shown off in the main trailer.
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* BigApplesauce: The trailers show the film’s film's setting to be New York City, where the Primms have just relocated to. Shots of Central Park and Times Square are shown off in the main trailer.
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The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms’ misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle’s eccentric owner. The film released in theatres on October 7, 2022.
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The film follows the Primm family (Creator/ConstanceWu, Creator/ScootMcNairy, and Winslow Fegley) as they move into a new house in UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, where they discover - and befriend - a friendly, music-loving salt-water Crocodile named Lyle (voiced by Music/ShawnMendes). Also starring is Creator/BrettGelman as the Primms’ Primms' misanthropic neighbor Mr. Grumps and Creator/JavierBardem as Hector P. Valenti, Lyle’s Lyle's eccentric owner. The film released in theatres on October 7, 7th, 2022.
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'''Previews:''' [[https://youtu.be/kSHecHtkXAc Teaser]], [[https://youtu.be/s0W6O7mSlaU Trailer]]
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'''Previews:''' [[https://youtu.be/kSHecHtkXAc [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?b=kSHecHtkXAc Teaser]], [[https://youtu.be/s0W6O7mSlaU [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0W6O7mSlaU Trailer]]
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You can't really call it "realistic" that people don't like being near a singing crocodile
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The books never really made a particularly big deal out of a crocodile, even an anthropomorphic one, being able to stay at the house on East 88th Street. The movie, conversely, does, and people are repeatedly startled or, in Mr. Grumps's case, outright adverse to living among a singing crocodile. [[spoiler:This leads to Lyle being taken away to the zoo, and even after he proves his talent to the masses, there is still no legal reason for Lyle to be allowed to stay at the house. It's only after Hector finds his old family deed that allows exotic animals to stay in the house that Lyle is able to remain on 88th Street.]]
