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* BrilliantButLazy: Malley accuses Todd of being this (Todd's initial protestations that he's merely busy with other things outside of class notwithstanding), in contrast to Arian and Ernest, who weren't brilliant, but worked hard.
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* {{Flashback}}: Though most of the movie takes place over the course of [[ExtremelyShortTimespan one day]], there's a flashback to Arian and Ernest giving a presentation in Malley's class about using part of U.S. foreign policy (engagement) at home - where they propose all juniors in high school should forgo school that year and do Peace Corps type work either abroad or in the poorest sections of home - before revealing they've joined the army, after which Malley takes them to lunch to try and talk them out of it.
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* WhamShot: As much as Malley's class debates Arian and Ernest about their presentation, they, and Malley, are shocked to see the letters Arian and Ernest reveal showing they've joined the army.
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* ExtremelyShortTimespan: The movie takes place over the course of a single day. Most of it takes place within an hour (albeit in different time zones).
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The plot is about three interconnected stories: The first story is about Dr. Stephen Malley (Redford) attempts to reach talented and privileged, but disaffected, student Todd Hayes (Creator/AndrewGarfield). Hayes is naturally bright, comes from a privileged background, but has apparently slipped into apathy upon being disillusioned at the present state of affairs; now, he devotes most of his time to extra-curricular activities like his role as president of his fraternity. Malley tests him by offering a choice between a respectable grade of 'B' in the class with no additional work required or a final opportunity to re-engage with the material of the class and "do something." Before Todd makes his choice, he must listen to the second story: Dr. Malley's story of his former students Arian (Derek Luke) and Ernest (Creator/MichaelPena) and why they enlisted in the army to fight in Afghanistan after graduating from college.
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The plot is about three interconnected stories: The first story is about Dr. Stephen Malley (Redford) attempts to reach talented and privileged, but disaffected, student Todd Hayes (Creator/AndrewGarfield). Hayes is naturally bright, comes from a privileged background, but has apparently slipped into apathy upon being disillusioned at the present state of affairs; now, he devotes most of his time to extra-curricular activities like his role as president of his fraternity. Malley tests him by offering a choice between a respectable grade of 'B' in the class with no additional work required or a final opportunity to re-engage with the material of the class and "do something." Before Todd makes his choice, he must listen to the second story: Dr. Malley's story of his former students Arian (Derek Luke) (Creator/DerekLuke) and Ernest (Creator/MichaelPena) and why they enlisted in the army to fight in Afghanistan after graduating from college.
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* MeaningfulEcho: When he's explaining to Malley why he's become TheCynic, one of the examples Todd gives is how someone who decides to run for President of the United States starts their campaign by announcing [[BlatantLies they aren't running for President]]. Later, as Janine is leaving her interview with Senator Irving, she asks if the "new strategy" he's planning for Afghanistan is his way of announcing something bigger for his career, and the senator responds he is not running for President.
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-->'''Malley''': '''Rome is burning''', son. And the problem is not with the people that started this - they're past irredeemable. The problem is with us, all of us, who do nothing, who just fiddle, who try to maneuver around the edges of the flame.
* WorstNewsJudgmentEver: Discussed - Senator Irving points out to Janine their interview will likely get only a couple of minutes on a broadcast that will be devoted to soft news only.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: When Arian and Ernest tell Malley it was his class and his words that inspired them to join the Army in the first place, he admits if he'd known what they were going to do, he'd have cut his tongue out.
* WorstNewsJudgmentEver: Discussed - Senator Irving points out to Janine their interview will likely get only a couple of minutes on a broadcast that will be devoted to soft news only.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: When Arian and Ernest tell Malley it was his class and his words that inspired them to join the Army in the first place, he admits if he'd known what they were going to do, he'd have cut his tongue out.
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-->'''Malley''': They ''bank'' on your apathy. They ''bank'' on your willful ignorance. They plan strategies around it. They try and figure out how much they can get away with.
* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Senator Irving intends this to be the case when he asks Janine, "Do you want to win UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror? Answer yes or no." They're interrupted before Janine can respond.
* BookEnds: The movie begins and ends with Todd watching the news on television.
* ArmorPiercingQuestion: Senator Irving intends this to be the case when he asks Janine, "Do you want to win UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror? Answer yes or no." They're interrupted before Janine can respond.
* BookEnds: The movie begins and ends with Todd watching the news on television.
* DownerEnding: [[spoiler:Arian and Ernest both get killed because TheCavalryArrivedLate, Janine is unable to convince her boss they should be questioning Senator Irving's "new strategy" instead of reporting it, meaning nothing will change with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, and Senator Irving will likely not be harmed by the failure of the Afghanistan mission. The only hopeful note is maybe Todd will start to become less apathetic.]]
* JumpedAtTheCall: Arian and Ernest both enlisted in the Army. Averted with Malley, who was drafted to fight in UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, does all he can to talk Arian and Ernest out of joining the Army, and admits to Todd when they joined anyway, it broke his heart.
* MeaningfulEcho: When he's explaining to Malley why he's become TheCynic, one of the examples Todd gives is
* MeaningfulEcho: When he's explaining to Malley why he's become TheCynic, one of the examples Todd gives is
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* TitleDrop: When Malley is telling Arian and Ernest about UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, he mentions how German officers admired the courage of the British soldiers they were fighting, while at the same time laughing at the stupidity of their superior officers, and to illustrate the points, he quotes [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_von_Gallwitz General Max Von Gallwitz]], who wrote, "Nowhere else have I seen such lions led by such lambs."
* WhileRomeBurns: Discussed:
-->'''Malley''': '''Rome is burning''',
* WhileRomeBurns: Discussed:
-->'''Malley''': '''Rome is burning''',
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* ActuallyPrettyFunny: As Arian and Ernest are preparing for their class presentation, Arian gets so nervous he drops his notes, and Ernest makes a joke about it to get him to lighten up. In response, Arian says, "You know why they got rid of affirmative action? It was because of his (Ernest's) GPA", which Ernest laughs at.
* ApatheticStudent: Malley thinks Todd has become this - Todd, in turn, tries to argue he's actually TheCynic because of all he's seen in class and in the real world, but Malley isn't buying it.
* DescriptionCut: As Falco watches Arian and Ernest try to survive after the helicopter they were in was shot down, he says he'd like to know who it was that said the area was secure. We immediately cut to Senator Irving.
* FlippingTheBird: Combined with LameComeback - when Ernest tells one of his fellow students the country that borders Minnesota (which he claims most people don't know) is Canada, the student flips him the bird. To emphasize what a LameComeback it is, Malley responds, "That's the most intelligent thing you've said all day."
* ApatheticStudent: Malley thinks Todd has become this - Todd, in turn, tries to argue he's actually TheCynic because of all he's seen in class and in the real world, but Malley isn't buying it.
* DescriptionCut: As Falco watches Arian and Ernest try to survive after the helicopter they were in was shot down, he says he'd like to know who it was that said the area was secure. We immediately cut to Senator Irving.
* FlippingTheBird: Combined with LameComeback - when Ernest tells one of his fellow students the country that borders Minnesota (which he claims most people don't know) is Canada, the student flips him the bird. To emphasize what a LameComeback it is, Malley responds, "That's the most intelligent thing you've said all day."
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* OhCrap: Malley when he sees that Ernest and Arian have enlisted in the army.
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* ThatRemindsMeOfASong: When Janine is trying to convince her boss Howard that what Senator Irving is proposing is merely a new spin on the same failed strategy, she asks Howard if he remembers Music/TheWho, and then sings (out of tune) the last two lines of "[[Music/WhosNext Won't Get Fooled Again]]" ("Meet the new boss/Same as the old boss").
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* ProductPlacement: If you had gone to an optician in 2007/2008 and asked for "A pair of glasses like Meryl Streep wears in ''Lions for Lambs''," then they would have been able to sell you the exact model.
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* TheWarOnTerror: The war in Afghanistan is a backdrop for all three stories.
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''Lions for Lambs'' is a 2007 American drama war film directed by Creator/RobertRedford and starring Redford, Creator/TomCruise, and Creator/MerylStreep. It was the first Cruise/Wagner Productions film since the company joined with Creator/UnitedArtists subsequent to Cruise having a falling out with Creator/{{Paramount}} in 2006.
The plot is about three interconnected stories: The first story is about Dr. Stephen Malley (Redford) attempts to reach talented and privileged, but disaffected, student Todd Hayes (Creator/AndrewGarfield). Hayes is naturally bright, comes from a privileged background, but has apparently slipped into apathy upon being disillusioned at the present state of affairs; now, he devotes most of his time to extra-curricular activities like his role as president of his fraternity. Malley tests him by offering a choice between a respectable grade of 'B' in the class with no additional work required or a final opportunity to re-engage with the material of the class and "do something." Before Todd makes his choice, he must listen to the second story: Dr. Malley's story of his former students Arian (Derek Luke) and Ernest (Creator/MichaelPena) and why they enlisted in the army to fight in Afghanistan after graduating from college.
For the third story: Meanwhile, in Washington, D.C., a charismatic Republican presidential hopeful, Senator Jasper Irving (Cruise), has invited TV journalist Janine Roth (Streep) to his office to announce a new war strategy in Afghanistan, hoping that Roth's positive coverage will help convince the public that the plan is sound. Roth has her doubts and fears she is being asked to become an instrument of government propaganda.
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!!This film provides examples of:
* NoPartyGiven: Averted; Senator Jasper Irving is stated to be a Republican. We're even given the state he represents: Illinois.
* PatrioticFervor: Of the "Patriotism Is Bad" side; the film lambastes wars misguidely fueled by this.
* StandardHollywoodStrafingProcedure: Deserves a mention as an aversion. The battle scenes feature some strafing runs by A-10s, but instead of neat ordered lines of puffs, the result, from the point of view of those on the ground, is of several large grouped explosions, approximating very well the power of a 30mm shell and the disordered pattern in which the shells hit the ground in reality.
* TheWarOnTerror: The war in Afghanistan is a backdrop for all three stories.
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''Lions for Lambs'' is a 2007 American drama war film directed by Creator/RobertRedford and starring Redford, Creator/TomCruise, and Creator/MerylStreep. It was the first Cruise/Wagner Productions film since the company joined with Creator/UnitedArtists subsequent to Cruise having a falling out with Creator/{{Paramount}} in 2006.
The plot is about three interconnected stories: The first story is about Dr. Stephen Malley (Redford) attempts to reach talented and privileged, but disaffected, student Todd Hayes (Creator/AndrewGarfield). Hayes is naturally bright, comes from a privileged background, but has apparently slipped into apathy upon being disillusioned at the present state of affairs; now, he devotes most of his time to extra-curricular activities like his role as president of his fraternity. Malley tests him by offering a choice between a respectable grade of 'B' in the class with no additional work required or a final opportunity to re-engage with the material of the class and "do something." Before Todd makes his choice, he must listen to the second story: Dr. Malley's story of his former students Arian (Derek Luke) and Ernest (Creator/MichaelPena) and why they enlisted in the army to fight in Afghanistan after graduating from college.
For the third story: Meanwhile, in Washington, D.C., a charismatic Republican presidential hopeful, Senator Jasper Irving (Cruise), has invited TV journalist Janine Roth (Streep) to his office to announce a new war strategy in Afghanistan, hoping that Roth's positive coverage will help convince the public that the plan is sound. Roth has her doubts and fears she is being asked to become an instrument of government propaganda.
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!!This film provides examples of:
* NoPartyGiven: Averted; Senator Jasper Irving is stated to be a Republican. We're even given the state he represents: Illinois.
* PatrioticFervor: Of the "Patriotism Is Bad" side; the film lambastes wars misguidely fueled by this.
* StandardHollywoodStrafingProcedure: Deserves a mention as an aversion. The battle scenes feature some strafing runs by A-10s, but instead of neat ordered lines of puffs, the result, from the point of view of those on the ground, is of several large grouped explosions, approximating very well the power of a 30mm shell and the disordered pattern in which the shells hit the ground in reality.
* TheWarOnTerror: The war in Afghanistan is a backdrop for all three stories.
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