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It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (and was nominated for two others).

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* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: Averted.

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* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: Averted.Mostly averted, when Whale sexually assaults Boone it is treated very seriously. It still leads to EasilyForgiven, though, when it becomes clear Whale was [[spoiler: attempting suicide.]]
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* [[spoiler: DrivenToSuicide ]]: Whale at the end of the film; that, at least, happened in real life too.

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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: DrivenToSuicide ]]: Whale at the end of the film; that, at least, happened in real life too.]]



* [[spoiler: PhonyVeteran ]]: Boone.

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* PhonyVeteran: [[spoiler: PhonyVeteran ]]: Boone.]]
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* SpiritualSuccessor: ''Film/MrHolmes'', the next collaboration between Bill Condon and Ian [=McKellen=], is similarly about an aging genius trying to make sense of his life.
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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930s and '40s) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (Creator/IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), while he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See, James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film written and directed by Bill Condon which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930s and '40s) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (Creator/IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), while he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See, James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back at the turn of the 20th century.
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* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: Averted.
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* SanitySlippage

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* SanitySlippageSanitySlippage: Whale: "I'm losing my mind. Every day, another piece goes. Soon there will be nothing left."
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* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Whale is depicted as his having pool parties filled with young men and it being heavily implied that such and event caused his stroke in the first place. He is also all over Boone, but that's more of a long-term ploy than this trope...maybe.

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* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Whale is depicted as his this, having pool parties filled with young men men, and it being it's heavily implied that such and an event caused his stroke in the first place. He is also all over Boone, but that's more of a long-term ploy than this trope...maybe.

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It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (as well as being nominated for two others).

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It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (as well as being (and was nominated for two others).



* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Whale is depicted as his having pool parties filled with young men and it being heavily implied that such and event caused his stroke in the first place. He is also all over Boone, however that's more of a long term ploy than this trope...maybe.

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* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Whale is depicted as his having pool parties filled with young men and it being heavily implied that such and event caused his stroke in the first place. He is also all over Boone, however but that's more of a long term long-term ploy than this trope...maybe.



* [[spoiler: DrivenToSuicide ]]: Whale at the end of the film, that at least, happened in real life too.

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* [[spoiler: DrivenToSuicide ]]: Whale at the end of the film, that film; that, at least, happened in real life too.


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* LoverAndBeloved: Whale's attraction to the much-younger Boone has shades of this trope.

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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (Creator/IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), while he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See, James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) 1930s and '40s) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (Creator/IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), while he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See, James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back at the turn of the 20th century.



* [[spoiler: PhonyVeteran ]]: Boone.



* NightmareFetishist: At the end, Whale admits to sexually provoking Boone because [[spoiler: he wanted Boone to murder him, saying it would "make death bearable".]]



* [[spoiler: PhonyVeteran ]]: Boone.



* ShoutOut: Clayton has a flat top haircut. His silhouette looks just like the classic Frankenstein's Monster, which Whale designed.

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* ShoutOut: Clayton has a flat top flat-top haircut. His silhouette looks just like the classic Frankenstein's Monster, which Whale designed.
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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (Creator/IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (Creator/IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), while he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See See, James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.
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* ShoutOut: Clayton has a flat top haircut. His silhouette looks just like the classic Frankenstein's Monster, which Whale designed.
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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke, Whale (IanMcKellen) (Creator/IanMcKellen) is slowly losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.
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* [[spoiler: PhonyVeteran ]]: Boone.
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It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (as well has being nominated for two others).

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It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (as well has as being nominated for two others).



* Gaydar : Boone doesn’t fully realise Whale is gay until he’s told, first by his friends and later by Hanna.
* Gayngst : completely averted, which is surprising for a period piece set in the 1950s.

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* Gaydar : {{Gaydar}}: Boone doesn’t fully realise Whale is gay until he’s told, first by his friends and later by Hanna.
* Gayngst : {{Gayngst}}: completely averted, which is surprising for a period piece set in the 1950s.
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* Gaydar: Boone doesn’t fully realise Whale is gay until he’s told, first by his friends and later by Hanna.
* Gayngst: completely averted, which is surprising for a period piece set in the 1950s.

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* Gaydar: Gaydar : Boone doesn’t fully realise Whale is gay until he’s told, first by his friends and later by Hanna.
* Gayngst: Gayngst : completely averted, which is surprising for a period piece set in the 1950s.
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* BadassGay: Whale is a World War I veteran.
* CampGay: Mr. Kay, the young student who comes to interview Whale.


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* Gaydar: Boone doesn’t fully realise Whale is gay until he’s told, first by his friends and later by Hanna.
* Gayngst: completely averted, which is surprising for a period piece set in the 1950s.


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* StripPoker: Whale asks [[spoiler: Mr. Kay to remove one piece of clothing for every question related to Frankenstein that he answers. The game goes on until Kay is in his underwear. ]]
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* OldRetainer: Hanna, Whale's maid, who has served him for many years and is very loyal to him (altough she's convinced he'll go to hell for being a homosexual).


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* SubordinateExcuse: Hanna seems to have some romantic feelings for Whale, even though she knows about his sexual orientation. In the end [[spoiler: after he commits suicide ]], she kisses him in the lips.
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\"Loosing\" his mind would be setting it free or unleashing it. Good for a director to do, but not what we were aiming for. So I fixed it.


''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke stroke, Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing losing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom he starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser), he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.



* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Whale is depicted as his having pool parties filled with young men and it being heavily implied that such and event caused his stroke in the first place. He is also all over Boone however that's more of a long term ploy than this trope...maybe.
* CreatorBacklash: An in-universe example as Whale is fed up with only being remembered as the guy that brought the world ''[[Film/{{Frankenstein1931}} Frankenstien]]''

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* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Whale is depicted as his having pool parties filled with young men and it being heavily implied that such and event caused his stroke in the first place. He is also all over Boone Boone, however that's more of a long term ploy than this trope...maybe.
* CreatorBacklash: An in-universe example as Whale is fed up with only being remembered as the guy that brought the world ''[[Film/{{Frankenstein1931}} Frankenstien]]''Frankenstein]]''



* MercyKill: Whale attemps to get Boone to do this.

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* MercyKill: Whale attemps attempts to get Boone to do this.
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* TragicDropout: Whale recounts his parents forcing him from school, at the age of 14, to work in a factory.

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''Gods and Monsters'' in a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom and a way to take his mind of the past he takes to sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' in is a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past. Out of boredom and a way to take his mind of the past he takes to starts sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser) to take his mind of things and (BrendanFraser), he is also enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.


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''Gods and Monsters'' in a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past, and falls to sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (as well has being noticed for two others).

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''Gods and Monsters'' in a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past, past. Out of boredom and falls a way to take his mind of the past he takes to sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (as well has being noticed nominated for two others).
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* CreatorBacklash: An in-universe example as Whale is fed up with only being remembered as the guy that brought the world ''{{Frankenstien}}''.

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* CreatorBacklash: An in-universe example as Whale is fed up with only being remembered as the guy that brought the world ''{{Frankenstien}}''.''[[Film/{{Frankenstein1931}} Frankenstien]]''
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* CreatorBacklash: An in-universe example as Whale is fed up with only being remembered as the guy that brought the world {{Frankenstien}).

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* CreatorBacklash: An in-universe example as Whale is fed up with only being remembered as the guy that brought the world {{Frankenstien}).''{{Frankenstien}}''.
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* [[Spoiler: DrivenToSuicide]]: Whale at the end of the film, that at least, happened in real life too.

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* [[Spoiler: DrivenToSuicide]]: [[spoiler: DrivenToSuicide ]]: Whale at the end of the film, that at least, happened in real life too.

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''Gods and Monsters'' focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past, and falls to sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' in a 1998 film which focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past, and falls to sketching his gardener (BrendanFraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.
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It received a large amount of praise and won an AcademyAward for Best Adapted Screenplay (as well has being noticed for two others).



* AllGaysArePromiscuous: Whale is depicted as his having pool parties filled with young men and it being heavily implied that such and event caused his stroke in the first place. He is also all over Boone however that's more of a long term ploy than this trope...maybe.
* CreatorBacklash: An in-universe example as Whale is fed up with only being remembered as the guy that brought the world {{Frankenstien}).
* [[Spoiler: DrivenToSuicide]]: Whale at the end of the film, that at least, happened in real life too.



* NobodyOver50IsGay: Averted as Whale (and [=McKellen=] himself of course) is gay and over 50, but discussed by Boone who says Whale is too old to think about things like sex.

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* MercyKill: Whale attemps to get Boone to do this.
* NobodyOver50IsGay: Averted as Whale (and [=McKellen=] himself of course) is gay and over 50, but discussed by Boone who says Whale is too old to think about things like sex.

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''Gods and Monsters'' focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (Ian McKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past, and falls to sketching his gardener (Brendan Fraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

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''Gods and Monsters'' focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (Ian McKellen) (IanMcKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past, and falls to sketching his gardener (Brendan Fraser) (BrendanFraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.



* FlashBackStares: A rare example of this trope being played straight in a modern work, as it shows Whale succumbing to his past as it overwhelms his senses.

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* FlashBackStares: A rare example of this trope being played straight in a modern work, as it shows Whale succumbing to his past as it overwhelms his senses.senses.
* NobodyOver50IsGay: Averted as Whale (and [=McKellen=] himself of course) is gay and over 50, but discussed by Boone who says Whale is too old to think about things like sex.
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''Gods and Monsters'' focuses on James Whale (a famous director of the 1930-40's) in the final days of his life. Having recently suffered a stroke Whale (Ian McKellen) is slowly loosing his mind; unable to concentrate and often lost in his dark and hedonistic past, and falls to sketching his gardener (Brendan Fraser) to take his mind of things and enjoying the *ahem* view. See James Whale was gay, openly so, and a large portion of the film focuses on what it was like to be a gay back back at the turn of the 20th century.

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* FlashBackStares: A rare example of this trope being played straight in a modern work, as it shows Whale succumbing to his past as it overwhelms his senses.

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