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Not necessarily. There are a stupid amount of criteria that go into penetration of armor and can result in stuff that on paper should have been a kill not even denting armor. Things like quality of powder (late war Germany) storage of the ammo (late war germany) state of the gun in terms of repair and upkeep (late war germany, sensing a pattern?) distance to target (rounds that strike too close to the Tiger are still too hot to penetrate properly, a fact even Whitman dealt with in his Tiger, while rounds too far from the tiger have lost too much velocity to effectively penetrate) Air humidity, wind, ambient temperature, temperature of the gun when it's fired (and they were firing several shots consecutively) the type of ammo fired, etc can all change wildly how the same victim plate of armor withstands the blow. This is why there are lots of accounts of Shermans surviving hits that "should" have killed them, to say nothing of other tanks, as the details of a gun's armor penetration are generally collated under perfect conditions against target plate that may or may not bear any actual resemblance to the behavior of enemy armor. This same fact is also why anti-armor weapons outside of tanks have such myriad of reputations, and why man-portable anti-tank guns, which had to deal with all the same weaknesses as tank guns, but couldn't gain the benefits of things like "bigger/more specialized explosive warheads", fell out of favor.
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** The scene against the [[spoiler:Tiger I has it]] fire its cannon right on a Fury's side and be deflected. At its angle, even with the improvised log armour, the [[spoiler:Tiger]] round should be able to penetrate Fury straight through the back, but instead is deflected off to the left, ruining the log improvisation but otherwise leaves the tank standing fine.
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** The second line in the opening statement is this. "US tank crewmen suffered staggering losses against the superior enemy vehicles" is a broad statement in relative to the armoured warfare. Though tank losses ran as high as [[http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/26/on-allied-tank-casualties-in-the-eto/ 10,000 in 1944 to the end of the war in Europe]] (although compared to a total production of 50,000 M4 Shermans, not such a big loss), crew casualties in tanks [[http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2016/08/26/u-s-tank-losses-and-crew-casualties-in-world-war-ii/ only averaged out at one per tank]] at the point of penetration, and sometimes crews were left unscathed from penetrations as well. According to historian Nicholas Moran, [[https://youtu.be/bNjp_4jY8pY?t=37m18s out of ~50,000 American tankers deployed in the European Theater of Operations, only 1,407 were KIA]].
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** The second line in the opening statement is this. "US tank crewmen suffered staggering losses against the superior enemy vehicles" is a broad statement in relative to the armoured warfare. Though tank losses ran as high as [[http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/26/on-allied-tank-casualties-in-the-eto/ 10,000 in 1944 to the end of the war in Europe]] (although compared to a total production of 50,000 M4 Shermans, not such a big loss), crew casualties in tanks [[http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/2016/08/26/u-s-tank-losses-and-crew-casualties-in-world-war-ii/ only averaged out at one per tank]] at the point of penetration, and sometimes crews were left unscathed from penetrations as well. According to historian Nicholas Moran, [[https://youtu.be/bNjp_4jY8pY?t=37m18s out of ~50,000 American tankers deployed in the European Theater of Operations, only 1,407 were KIA]].[[note]] These figures are further exacerbated by the ways in which the US and Allied forces counted losses, which could very easily result in tanks being counted as destroyed ''twice'' due to first being counted as destroyed by the battalion, because it required too many repairs to make battle ready, shipped back home, and then counted ''again'' when a mechanic finally looked at it and determined it was unfixable and should be scrapped. By contrast, the German side would often refuse to consider a tank lost even if it was no longer operable and with the unit, with Rommel's forces somehow never reporting a loss in tank numbers despite being reduced to 10% their original size during the Africa campaign. This creates a casual figure reading that gives the impression US armor took huge losses to the German's relative few, when in reality the numbers may have been the exact opposite, or far more equal.[[/note]]
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** Every tanker's worst fear is getting trapped in their own tank if it catches fire. One unlucky Sherman crewman [[DrivenToSuicide opts to shoot himself]] rather than burn alive.
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** Every tanker's worst fear is getting trapped in their own tank if it catches fire. One unlucky Sherman crewman [[DrivenToSuicide [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled opts to shoot himself]] rather than burn alive.
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* BlackAndGrayMorality: While nobody argues that the Nazis and in particular the SS are monsters in human skin, the veteran American soldiers aren't exactly saints themselves. They will often default to the [[CombatPragmatist most efficient methods of fighting that maximize their own survival]], such as using underhanded methods to ambush German soldiers, gunning down child soldiers in combat, and using [[NoKillLikeOverkill ludicrous amounts of firepower]] to eliminate individual German positions. Outside of battle, American soldiers show no compunction for summarily executing SS soldiers and German soldiers carrying or wearing American war trophies.
* CombatPragmatist: By this point of the war, many of the veteran American soldiers are tired and jaded, having only survived this far because they were this trope or quickly learned to become one. This includes machine gunning corpses of German soldiers to make sure they really are dead, being prepared to blast a building full of surrending soldiers in case it was a trap, [[WouldHurtAChild gunning down child soldiers]] in battle without a second thought, and more.
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* FateWorseThanDeath: Wardaddy warns Norman against surrendering to the SS, saying, "They'll hurt you real bad, and they'll ''kill you'' real bad."
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** Wardaddy warns Norman against surrendering to the SS, saying, "They'll hurt you real bad, and they'll ''kill you'' real bad." "
** Every tanker's worst fear is getting trapped in their own tank if it catches fire. One unlucky Sherman crewman [[DrivenToSuicide opts to shoot himself]] rather than burn alive.
** When Fury sets a German anti-tank crew on fire with a white phosphorous round, some American soldiers express disappointment at Norman machinegunning them and inadvertently [[MercyKill putting them out of their misery]].
** Wardaddy warns Norman against surrendering to the SS, saying, "They'll hurt you real bad, and they'll ''kill you'' real bad.
** Every tanker's worst fear is getting trapped in their own tank if it catches fire. One unlucky Sherman crewman [[DrivenToSuicide opts to shoot himself]] rather than burn alive.
** When Fury sets a German anti-tank crew on fire with a white phosphorous round, some American soldiers express disappointment at Norman machinegunning them and inadvertently [[MercyKill putting them out of their misery]].
* KillItWithFire: During the town assault, Fury fires a incendiary white phosphorous round at a hidden German anti-tank gun, setting the entire crew on fire.
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** It's clear that the tank's crew think this at first of Wardaddy's declared intent to hold the crossroads, but they gradually forsake the option to run away with their lives and resolve to fight alongside him regardless.
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** It's clear that the tank's crew think this at first of Wardaddy's declared intent to hold the crossroads, but they gradually forsake the option to run away with their lives and resolve to fight alongside him regardless. Later, [[spoiler:it's shown to be averted at the end when American reinforcements arrive, demonstrating that Fury's LastStand really did buy enough time to make a difference]].
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** Wardaddy ordering a captured SS officer to be summarily executed without trial is something that American soldiers really did in WWII. By this point in the war, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre Malmedy Massacre]] had already occurred, where SS troops executed over 80 American [=POWs=] in cold blood. Upon learning of this, American officers issued unofficial orders that no SS soldier be taken alive, and as a result [[PayEvilUntoEvil many SS soldiers were executed by American soldiers in retaliation]].
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** In addition, there was no reason for the Shermans to try and [[spoiler:get to the Tiger I's rear armor]], since the side and rear armor are equal thickness and equally vulnerable to to even a 75mm armed Sherman.
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** The film actually opens with one -- a lone German officer is riding his horse through the eerily-still aftermath of a battle, several burnt out tanks littering the landscape. [[spoiler:And then Wardaddy leaps down from one, Fury, and [[EyeScream stabs the man to death in the face...]]]]
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** The film actually opens with one -- a lone German officer is riding his horse through the eerily-still aftermath of a battle, several burnt out tanks littering the landscape. [[spoiler:And then Wardaddy leaps down from one, Fury, and [[EyeScream stabs the man to death in man through the face...eye...]]]]
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In April 1945, the Allies are slowly grinding their way through the heart of Nazi Germany as [[BigBad Hitler]] desperately orders a complete mobilization of all of the German people in an attempt to resist Germany's inevitable downfall. The crew of the American tank "Fury", led by Staff Sergeant Don "Wardaddy" Collier (Creator/BradPitt), have spent years fighting the Nazis in various fronts throughout the war, and when the film begins they have just barely survived a battle that wiped out the rest of their tank platoon and killed a member of their crew. Upon arriving back at camp, Wardaddy is ordered to take along a new assistant driver, Norman Ellison (Creator/LoganLerman), a [[NewMeat new recruit]] who has been in the Army for just eight weeks and has never fired a gun in his life apart from basic training. Norman is introduced to the rest of Fury's crew, including "Bible" (Creator/ShiaLaBeouf), "Gordo" (Creator/MichaelPena) and "Coon-Ass" (Creator/JonBernthal), and works to gain their trust and get over his shock at the horror of war.
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In April 1945, the Allies are slowly grinding their way through the heart of Nazi Germany as [[BigBad Hitler]] UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler desperately orders a complete mobilization of all of the German people in an attempt to resist Germany's inevitable downfall. The crew of the American tank "Fury", led by Staff Sergeant Don "Wardaddy" Collier (Creator/BradPitt), have spent years fighting the Nazis in various fronts throughout the war, and when the film begins they have just barely survived a battle that wiped out the rest of their tank platoon and killed a member of their crew. Upon arriving back at camp, Wardaddy is ordered to take along a new assistant driver, Norman Ellison (Creator/LoganLerman), a [[NewMeat new recruit]] who has been in the Army for just eight weeks and has never fired a gun in his life apart from basic training. Norman is introduced to the rest of Fury's crew, including "Bible" (Creator/ShiaLaBeouf), "Gordo" (Creator/MichaelPena) and "Coon-Ass" (Creator/JonBernthal), and works to gain their trust and get over his shock at the horror of war.
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* TokenReligiousTeammate: Bible, in a surprisingly real and non-stereotypical way. He’s as foul-mouthed and ill-tempered as anyone else, but he refrains from philandering (notice he’s also wearing a wedding ring, though his wife is never mentioned). Nor does he haze Norman or threaten the German women the team encounter.
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* TokenReligiousTeammate: Bible, in a surprisingly real and non-stereotypical way. He’s as only a ''little'' less foul-mouthed and ill-tempered as anyone else, than the other members of the crew, but he refrains from philandering (notice he’s also wearing a wedding ring, though his wife is never mentioned). Nor does he haze He also mostly refrains from hazing Norman or threaten and never acts in a threatening manner to the German women the team encounter.
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Not related to [[Film/{{Fury1936}} the 1936 film]] directed by Creator/FritzLang or the Vietnamese action film ''{{Film/Furie}}''.
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Not related to [[Film/{{Fury1936}} the 1936 film]] directed by Creator/FritzLang or the Vietnamese action film ''{{Film/Furie}}''. Compare with the Russian counterpart, ''{{Film/T34}}''.
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* AllWomenAreLustful: Coon-Ass seems to have this attitude toward German woman, suggesting that a chocolate bar or a few cigarettes will do fine for their attention. (What goes unspoken is that at this point of the war so much of Germany is now occupied by the Allies in the west and the Russians in the east that any territories that haven't fallen yet also probably haven't gotten any food or other supplies in awhile, or have had whatever supplies the civilians had taken by the remnants of the German army and the SS. So there are very concrete reasons why exchanging sex for some food or cigarettes is a bargain that a lot of the German women would make.)
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* AllWomenAreLustful: Coon-Ass seems to have this attitude toward German woman, suggesting that a chocolate bar or a few cigarettes will do fine for their attention. (What goes unspoken is that at this point of the war so much of Germany is now occupied by the Allies in the west and the Russians in the east that any territories that haven't fallen yet also probably haven't gotten any food or other supplies in awhile, a while, or have had whatever supplies the civilians had taken by the remnants of the German army and the SS. So there are very concrete reasons why exchanging sex for some food or cigarettes is a bargain that a lot of the German women would make.)
*MurderInc: One of the Shermans in the platoon is named after the RealLife TropeNamer, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder,_Inc Murder, Inc]].
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* NoRangeLikePointBlankRange: During the attack on the village, Fury and Murder Inc. come across a machine gun nest mowing down their fellow soldiers. Their solution? Murder Inc. ''blows it up'' with a 75 mm gun at about a tank's equivalent of point blank range. The only reason why Fury didn't was because it was too close to even bring the gun to aim at it, though it likely helped that Murder Inc. was equipped with the 75mm M3, which had a better high explosive shell than Fury's 76mm [=M1A2=].[[note]]Due to the higher velocity of the [=M1A2=], the walls of the HE shell had to be thicker to not break apart in flight, reducing the amount of explosive material.[[/note]]
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* NoRangeLikePointBlankRange: During the attack on the village, Fury and Murder Inc. come across a machine gun nest mowing down their fellow soldiers. Their solution? Murder Inc. ''blows it up'' with a 75 mm gun at about a tank's equivalent of point blank point-blank range. The only reason why Fury didn't was because it was too close to even bring the gun to aim at it, though it likely helped that Murder Inc. was equipped with the 75mm M3, which had a better high explosive shell than Fury's 76mm [=M1A2=].[[note]]Due to the higher velocity of the [=M1A2=], the walls of the HE shell had to be thicker to not break apart in flight, reducing the amount of explosive material.[[/note]]
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* SoloMissionBecomesGroupMission: Right before the climactic battle, Wardaddy orders the rest of the tank crew to make their way to friendly territory and give them a heads up of the Waffen Schutzstaffel battalion headed their way, while he battles them alone. However, the rest of the crew eventually decides to stick by him until the bitter end. A bit of a zigzag as he starts off by ordering them to prepare to fight (and they express extreme reservations given the tank can no longer move) before allowing them to leave once he sees their reluctance (which in turn strikes courage into their hearts).
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** The general reaction among both soldiers and military historians watching the film is that while the battle tactics and some of the facts come from Hollywood, the general atmosphere of being at war and both the camaraderie and resentment that build as a result of soldiers who've been serving together for a long time is excellently depicted.
