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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate. It was eventually confirmed that the reboot would begin Phase 6 of the MCU, slated for release on November 8, 2024.

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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights.rights that were licensed to them. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate. It was eventually confirmed that the reboot would begin Phase 6 of the MCU, slated for release on November 8, 2024.February 14, 2025.
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* WhiteMaleLead: Due to Ben getting very little screen time before transforming into the Thing, Johnny getting a RaceLift and Sue being TheChick, Reed ends up coming across as this. He's also depicted as the most resourceful and independent, while the other characters passively accept their fates as military flunkies until Reed convinces them to join him.

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* WhiteMaleLead: Due to Ben getting very little screen time before transforming into the Thing, Johnny getting a RaceLift and Sue being TheChick, filling the [[TheSmurfettePrinciple "girl"]] Reed ends up coming across as this. He's also depicted as the most resourceful and independent, while the other characters passively accept their fates as military flunkies until Reed convinces them to join him.
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** Inverted. Despite being based more on his ComicBook/{{Ultimate|FantasticFour}} version than his [[ComicBook/FantasticFour mainstream]] version, Reed Richards lacks the former's, abusive father.

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** Inverted. Despite being based more on his ComicBook/{{Ultimate|FantasticFour}} version than his [[ComicBook/FantasticFour mainstream]] version, Reed Richards lacks the former's, former's abusive father.



* BigBrotherBully: In the past sequence, Jimmy Grimm abuses Ben. He also says "It's clobberin' time!" before beating him.

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* BigBrotherBully: In the past sequence, Jimmy As a child, Ben Grimm abuses Ben. He also says was tormented by his older brother Jimmy, who liked to say "It's clobberin' time!" before beating him.
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* VillainHasAPoint: Victor was correct in that society ''is'' hideously unjust in that it ''refuses'' to give proper accolades to STEM professionals, instead favoring the camera hogs and the beefy war heroes -- whoa, KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect applies in ''RealLife'' -- but "[[JerkassHasAPoint let's jump in the experimental machine ourselves with no training on how to survive in unforeseeable situations]]" pretty much sets the IdiotPlot in motion.

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* BigBad: Doom, like in all of the [[Film/TheFantasticFour previous]] [[Film/FantasticFour2005 movies]], is the primary antagonist, but since he only appears in his final form at the end of the movie, the film has no antagonist for the first 2 acts.



* BigBad: Doom, like in all of the [[Film/TheFantasticFour previous]] [[Film/FantasticFour2005 movies]], is the primary antagonist, but since he only appears in his final form at the end of the movie, the film has no antagonist for the first 2 acts.
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Up To Eleven is being dewicked.


** Ben lacks much of the rough-but-noble personality that was present in the comics and is instead driven primarily by angst (a component of his character in the comics, but here it's taken UpToEleven).

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** Ben lacks much of the rough-but-noble personality that was present in the comics and is instead driven primarily by angst (a component of his character in the comics, but here it's taken UpToEleven).up to eleven).



* InvulnerableKnuckles: Reed never so much as flinches when he punches Victor in the face, even though Victor's body is at this point ''[[UpToEleven entirely made of metal]]'' and Reed should have broken his hand on the very first punch.

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* InvulnerableKnuckles: Reed never so much as flinches when he punches Victor in the face, even though Victor's body is at this point ''[[UpToEleven entirely ''entirely made of metal]]'' metal'' and Reed should have broken his hand on the very first punch.
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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate.

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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate. It was eventually confirmed that the reboot would begin Phase 6 of the MCU, slated for release on November 8, 2024.
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Jon Watts stepped down, so the information is out of date.


In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate, to be directed by ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'' director Jon Watts.

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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate, to be directed by ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'' director Jon Watts.slate.
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* MotiveRant: When they finally get the machine working, the creepy military/industrial bureaucrat is quick to take over and find some deniable obedient assets to explore where the machine goes, [[JerkAss snidely]] shooing Richards and his team aside. Doom blows his top and gives a doozy of a rant.

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* MotiveRant: When they finally get the machine working, the creepy military/industrial bureaucrat Dr. Allen is quick to take over and find some deniable obedient assets to explore where the machine goes, [[JerkAss snidely]] shooing Richards and his team aside. Doom blows his top and gives a doozy of a rant.



* NoSell: When Doom awakens after returning from Planet Zero and starts rampaging through a science facility, the military's security forces try to gun him down. All of their bullets harmlessly bounce off of his telekinetic force field as the villain calmly walks towards them.

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* NoSell: When Doom awakens after returning from Planet Zero and starts rampaging through a science the facility, the military's security forces soldiers try to gun him down. All of their bullets harmlessly bounce off of his telekinetic force field as the villain calmly walks towards them.

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Since EDW has been cut, and the entry didn't fit TBST, I am moving this entry here, which is appropriate since it is about the lack of character. The entry is admittedly complainy though, so someone else should probably rewrite this.


* FlatCharacter: Nearly all the characters in the film are so dull and one-dimensional and have such little dynamics with each other that, whether you hate them or not, a lot of viewers will not care if either good or bad things happen to them.



** Ben Grimm's [[https://i1.wp.com/caps.pictures/201/5-fantastic-four/full/fantastic-four-movie-screencaps.com-7569.jpg?zoom=1.25&strip=all file]], the one that Reed looks at, lists, among other details, 48 missions completed, 100% success rate, and 55 confirmed kills.

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** Ben Grimm's [[https://i1.wp.com/caps.pictures/201/5-fantastic-four/full/fantastic-four-movie-screencaps.pictures/201/5-fantastic-four/full/fantastic-four-movie-screenaps.com-7569.jpg?zoom=1.25&strip=all file]], the one that Reed looks at, lists, among other details, 48 missions completed, 100% success rate, and 55 confirmed kills.
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Moving cut What An Idiot entries that lacked the proper formatting here.

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* IdiotBall:
** Franklin Storm's superiors demand that his researchers create something with practical usefulness. At the time they demand this, the researchers have already found a way to send things to Planet Zero, though they couldn't return them yet. In other words, their research had created a perfect solution to the old problem of finding a safe way to store radioactive waste (and that's just the start of all the possible applications for Planet Zero transit). Yet Franklin's superiors '''still''' insist that the research so far lacks practical uses...
** The fateful journey that gets the characters their powers happens ''[[AlcoholInducedIdiocy because they were drunk]]'' and didn't consider the dangers of going on an expedition without any support. What's more, Ben Grimm doesn't even have the '''excuse''' of being drunk. He basically gets a call from a hammered Reed in the middle of the night, asking him to come to the Baxter Building right then and there so they and two guys he doesn't know can take a machine on a dimension-hopping joyride to a distant planet... and he just goes, "I see nothing wrong with this picture. ''Okay!''". Making it worse is the fact that the characters seem to stop acting drunk once they get to Planet Zero, giving the impression that they had all sobered up by then, which ''still'' doesn't stop them from running around and touching stuff.
** Many reviewers also called out that Doom could have [[CurbStompBattle instantly defeated]] any of the Fantastic Four using his [[YourHeadASplode headsplosion powers]], [[IForgotICouldFly which he promptly forgot about]] after using them in the facility, which is particularly egregious considering that that was how he killed most of his victims in the film, and no HandWave is given to explain why he suddenly can't use them.
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The film serves as a ContinuityReboot for the ''Film/FantasticFour'' film franchise, and has no connection to the two previous [[Film/TheFantasticFour film]] [[Film/FantasticFour2005 iterations]]. Its story follows Reed Richards, a brilliant scientist researching travel into AnotherDimension. However, when a test involving him and four other subjects [[GoneHorriblyWrong goes horribly wrong]], the surviving four must adapt to their [[PowerIncontinence rapidly changing bodies]] before [[BigBadFriend the fifth survivor returns to wreak havoc]].

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The film serves as a ContinuityReboot for the ''Film/FantasticFour'' film franchise, and has no connection to the two previous [[Film/TheFantasticFour film]] [[Film/FantasticFour2005 [[Film/FantasticFourDuology iterations]]. Its story follows Reed Richards, a brilliant scientist researching travel into AnotherDimension. However, when a test involving him and four other subjects [[GoneHorriblyWrong goes horribly wrong]], the surviving four must adapt to their [[PowerIncontinence rapidly changing bodies]] before [[BigBadFriend the fifth survivor returns to wreak havoc]].
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* GodwinsLaw: Johnny calls Victor "UsefulNotes/{{Adolf|Hitler}}" for no reason other than that he's European. It's not hard to see what he was implying there.

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* GodwinsLaw: Johnny calls Victor "UsefulNotes/{{Adolf|Hitler}}" for no reason other than that he's European. It's not hard to see what he was implying there.[[note]]Even worse, most versions of Doom are Romani, which makes the Hitler remark even more insulting.[[/note]]

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** Victor's rant about how it's not "fair" that Planet Zero will be first explored by astronauts instead of the people who built the teleporters has a lot of this. He complains that maybe they're going to send in the CIA. The CIA, being an intelligence agency, would have ''absolutely nothing'' to do with the exploration of new planets. Their purview is more about already established countries.


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** Victor's rant about how it's not "fair" that Planet Zero will be first explored by astronauts instead of the people who built the teleporters has a lot of this. He complains that maybe they're going to send in the CIA. The CIA, being an intelligence agency, would have ''absolutely nothing'' to do with the exploration of new planets. Their purview is more about already established countries.
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** Victor's rant about how it's not "fair" that Planet Zero will be first explored by astronauts instead of the people who built the teleporters has a lot of this. He complains that maybe they're going to send in the CIA. The CIA, being an intelligence agency, would have ''absolutely nothing'' to do with the exploration of new planets. Their purview is more about already established countries.
** Victor complains about how everyone remembers Neil Armstrong and that nobody remembers the scientists that made the moon landing possible, and that the scientists deserved to go to the moon first. The audience is supposed to side with him, but multiple failures in research become apparent:
*** Anyone who has even the slightest idea of engineering, physics, and space travel would be aware of how extensive astronaut training is and how expensive it would be to put even one person on the moon.[[note]]Also worth noting is that Armstrong had a bachelor's degree in Aerospace Engineering and had been piloting since his teens, and his crewmate ''Doctor'' "Buzz" Aldrin got his [=Ph.D=] from MIT and did post-doctorate research on orbital rendezvous. A large proportion of astronauts and cosmonauts ever since Apollo have also been highly qualified scientists.[[/note]]
*** Anyone with a knowledge of sociology and politics would recognize how urgent the US's [[UsefulNotes/TheSpaceRace space race against the USSR was]] at the time and that obviously, only a small crew could actually make the trip.
*** Anyone with a decent knowledge of history would note that a key scientific figure who made the Apollo 11 mission possible -- Wernher Von Braun -- '''was''' very famous at the time (having made several television appearances in the fifties, sixties, and seventies), and that his absence in the conversation is pretty conspicuous.
*** Critic Creator/BradJones, in his ''WebVideo/MidnightScreenings'' review of the film, pointed out two other flaws with Victor's claim: 1) Apollo 11 was built by a crew of over hundreds of thousands, not just a few teenage prodigies, hence why the astronauts got most of the fame, and 2) the astronauts themselves have been vocal about their gratitude to the engineers whose work kept them alive during their journey.
*** Furthermore, the research failure comes across as being particularly egregious based on ''who'' is saying it -- since Victor is a genius scientist who has worked in a similar field, he should '''know''' all of this, as should Reed. At the very least, for what little credit they deserve, [[{{Pride}} Victor's over-inflated ego has consistently been a problem for him across all versions of the character]] and [[AlcoholInducedIdiocy all three of them are shit-faced drunk during the discussion]].

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* AlcoholInducedIdiocy: Reed, Victor, and Johnny get shitfaced and then decide to teleport themselves on an unauthorized expedition to Planet Zero, with Reed calling up Ben to invite him along for the ride. This leads to them getting their powers after Sue steps in.

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* AlcoholInducedIdiocy: Reed, Victor, The fateful journey that gets the characters their powers happens ''because they were drunk'' and Johnny get shitfaced and then decide to teleport themselves didn't consider the dangers of going on an unauthorized expedition without any support. What's more, Ben Grimm doesn't even have the '''excuse''' of being drunk. He basically gets a call from a hammered Reed in the middle of the night, asking him to come to the Baxter Building right then and there so they and two guys he doesn't know can take a machine on a dimension-hopping joyride to a distant planet... and he just goes, "I see nothing wrong with this picture. ''Okay!''". Making it worse is the fact that the characters seem to stop acting drunk once they get to Planet Zero, with Reed calling up Ben to invite him along for giving the ride. This leads to impression that they had all sobered up by then, which ''still'' doesn't stop them getting their powers after Sue steps in.from running around and touching stuff.



* FlatCharacter: Doom's reasoning for going bad is... unclear, and his goal itself effectively amounts to "blowing up the world".

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* FlatCharacter: Doom's reasoning for going bad is... unclear, ForgotAboutHisPowers: Doom could have instantly defeated any of the Fantastic Four using his headsplosion powers, which he promptly forgot about after using them in the facility, which is particularly egregious considering that that was how he killed most of his victims in the film, and his goal itself effectively amounts no HandWave is given to "blowing up the world".explain why he suddenly can't use them.


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* GenericDoomsdayVillain: Doom's reasoning for going bad is... unclear, and his goal itself effectively amounts to "blowing up the world".
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* AdaptationalBadass: As with ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' and [[Film/FantasticFour2005 the 2005-2007 duology]], Dr. Doom is shown gaining powers in the same accident that gave the Fantastic Four theirs, as opposed to using PoweredArmor.

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* AdaptationalBadass: As with ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'' and [[Film/FantasticFour2005 the 2005-2007 duology]], ''Film/FantasticFourDuology'', Dr. Doom is shown gaining powers in the same accident that gave the Fantastic Four theirs, as opposed to using PoweredArmor.
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The film is noted for its notoriously TroubledProduction in regards to [[AshCanCopy getting the film out on time to retain the rights]], the director's CreatorBreakdown, and the ExecutiveMeddling required to get the film finished. Following the movie's critical and commercial failure, Fox would cancel the planned sequel as well. In spite of the movie effectively serving as a StillbornFranchise, the film was one of the first that Fox would release on the 4K Ultra-HD Blu-Ray format.

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The film is noted for its notoriously TroubledProduction in regards to [[AshCanCopy getting the film out on time to retain the rights]], the director's CreatorBreakdown, hostile and erratic behavior, and the ExecutiveMeddling required to get the film finished. Following the movie's critical and commercial failure, Fox would cancel the planned sequel as well. In spite of the movie future plans effectively serving as chalking up to a StillbornFranchise, the film was one of the first that Fox would release on the 4K Ultra-HD Blu-Ray format.

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* BetaOutfit: Unconscious and unable to control their powers, the team is given containment suits. [[spoiler:Since Reed goes on the run, he has to build his own more rudimentary and [=MacGyvered=] version.]]



* NitroBoost: Subverted. Johnny redlines his engine in his introductory racing scene, which causes something to burst and sends him off the road.



* RealityEnsues:
** Johnny redlines his engine in his introductory racing scene, which causes something to burst and sends him off the road.
** Unconscious and unable to control their powers, the team is given containment suits. [[spoiler:Since Reed goes on the run, he has to build his own more rudimentary and [=MacGyvered=] version.]]
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''Fantastic Four'', stylized as ''[=Fant4stic=]'', is a 2015 film that is very loosely adapted from Creator/MarkMillar's run on the {{superhero}} comic book ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour''. It is directed by Creator/JoshTrank of ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' fame, and produced by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox. Its cast includes Creator/MilesTeller as [[Characters/FantasticFourTheFantasticFour Reed Richards]], Creator/KateMara as Sue Storm, Creator/MichaelBJordan as Johnny Storm, Creator/JamieBell as Ben Grimm, Creator/TobyKebbell as Victor Von Doom, Creator/RegECathey as Franklin Storm, and Creator/TimBlakeNelson as Harvey Allen.

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''Fantastic Four'', stylized as ''[=Fant4stic=]'', ''[[Letters2Numbers [=Fant4stic=]]]'', is a 2015 film that is very loosely adapted from Creator/MarkMillar's run on the {{superhero}} comic book ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour''. It is directed by Creator/JoshTrank of ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' fame, and produced by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox. Its cast includes Creator/MilesTeller as [[Characters/FantasticFourTheFantasticFour Reed Richards]], Creator/KateMara as Sue Storm, Creator/MichaelBJordan as Johnny Storm, Creator/JamieBell as Ben Grimm, Creator/TobyKebbell as Victor Von Doom, Creator/RegECathey as Franklin Storm, and Creator/TimBlakeNelson as Harvey Allen.
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redundant - every example of Unrealistic Black Hole is a form of Artistic License Astronomy (or, as it now is, Artistic License Space) by definition


* UnrealisticBlackHole: In a form of ArtisticLicenseAstronomy, the black hole that Victor summoned should have destroyed the world -- and much of the nearby Solar System -- in less than a second. However, it goes on for minutes and only manages to destroy [[spoiler:a city, part of a forest, and Area 57]].

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* UnrealisticBlackHole: In a form of ArtisticLicenseAstronomy, the The black hole that Victor summoned should have destroyed the world -- and much of the nearby Solar System -- in less than a second. However, it goes on for minutes and only manages to destroy [[spoiler:a city, part of a forest, and Area 57]].
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''Fantastic Four'', stylized as ''[=Fant4stic=]'', is a 2015 film that is very loosely adapted from Creator/MarkMillar's run on the {{superhero}} comic book ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour''. It is directed by Creator/JoshTrank of ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' fame, and produced by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox. Its cast includes Creator/MilesTeller as [[Characters/FantasticFourTheFantasticFour Reed Richards]], Creator/KateMara as Sue Storm]], Creator/MichaelBJordan as Johnny Storm, Creator/JamieBell as Ben Grimm, Creator/TobyKebbell as Victor Von Doom, Creator/RegECathey as Franklin Storm, and Creator/TimBlakeNelson as Harvey Allen.

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''Fantastic Four'', stylized as ''[=Fant4stic=]'', is a 2015 film that is very loosely adapted from Creator/MarkMillar's run on the {{superhero}} comic book ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour''. It is directed by Creator/JoshTrank of ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' fame, and produced by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox. Its cast includes Creator/MilesTeller as [[Characters/FantasticFourTheFantasticFour Reed Richards]], Creator/KateMara as Sue Storm]], Storm, Creator/MichaelBJordan as Johnny Storm, Creator/JamieBell as Ben Grimm, Creator/TobyKebbell as Victor Von Doom, Creator/RegECathey as Franklin Storm, and Creator/TimBlakeNelson as Harvey Allen.
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Inserted a single link to the character page; removed the Doctor Doom link bc according to the page in question he didn't get his own comic until 2019, which I feel isn't applicable to this movie. Also the Human Torch page is a disambiguation one, and the relevant page redirects to the character page in question.


''Fantastic Four'', stylized as ''[=Fant4stic=]'', is a 2015 film that is very loosely adapted from Creator/MarkMillar's run on the {{superhero}} comic book ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour''. It is directed by Creator/JoshTrank of ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' fame, and produced by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox. Its cast includes Creator/MilesTeller as [[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]], Creator/KateMara as [[ComicBook/InvisibleWoman Sue Storm]], Creator/MichaelBJordan as [[ComicBook/HumanTorch Johnny Storm]], Creator/JamieBell as Ben Grimm, Creator/TobyKebbell as [[ComicBook/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]], Creator/RegECathey as Franklin Storm, and Creator/TimBlakeNelson as Harvey Allen.

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''Fantastic Four'', stylized as ''[=Fant4stic=]'', is a 2015 film that is very loosely adapted from Creator/MarkMillar's run on the {{superhero}} comic book ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour''. It is directed by Creator/JoshTrank of ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' fame, and produced by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox. Its cast includes Creator/MilesTeller as [[ComicBook/MisterFantastic [[Characters/FantasticFourTheFantasticFour Reed Richards]], Creator/KateMara as [[ComicBook/InvisibleWoman Sue Storm]], Creator/MichaelBJordan as [[ComicBook/HumanTorch Johnny Storm]], Storm, Creator/JamieBell as Ben Grimm, Creator/TobyKebbell as [[ComicBook/DoctorDoom Victor Von Doom]], Doom, Creator/RegECathey as Franklin Storm, and Creator/TimBlakeNelson as Harvey Allen.
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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate, to be directed by Film/SpiderManHomecoming director Jon Watts.

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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate, to be directed by Film/SpiderManHomecoming ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'' director Jon Watts.
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** Reed's fugitive arc involves him building a teleporter from scratch using black market and work around parts with the goal of fixing the others. Once he gets to Area 57, this plot is dropped entirely, even after Doom is dealt with.
** Ben is mad at Reed for his involvement in the accident and for leaving him, until the plot demands that he suddenly isn't.

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** Reed's fugitive arc involves him building a teleporter from scratch using the black market and work around parts with the goal of fixing the others. Once he gets to Area 57, this plot is dropped entirely, even after Doom is dealt with.
** Ben is mad at Reed for his involvement in the accident and for leaving him, him until the plot demands that he suddenly isn't.



** Reed's step-father and mother are seen briefly, but don't appear beyond that.
** There were plans for sequels, and at least some plot points were meant to be expanded upon in them. Due to the film's [[BoxOfficeBomb box office failure]] and the sequels being cancelled, it's unlikely they'll get any kind of payoff.

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** Reed's step-father and mother are seen briefly, briefly but don't appear beyond that.
** There were plans for sequels, and at least some plot points were meant to be expanded upon in them. Due to the film's [[BoxOfficeBomb box office failure]] and the sequels being cancelled, canceled, it's unlikely they'll get any kind of payoff.



** Inverted. Despite being based more on his ComicBook/{{Ultimate|FantasticFour}} version than his [[ComicBook/FantasticFour mainstream]] version, Reed Richards lacks the former's abusive father.
** Zigzagged with Ben Grimm. In contrast to Reed, he gained an abusive brother, something no version of the Thing has had, but lacks the suicidal depression of his ComicBook/{{Ultimate|FantasticFour}} counterpart.

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** Inverted. Despite being based more on his ComicBook/{{Ultimate|FantasticFour}} version than his [[ComicBook/FantasticFour mainstream]] version, Reed Richards lacks the former's former's, abusive father.
** Zigzagged with Ben Grimm. In contrast to Reed, he gained an abusive brother, something no version of the The Thing has had, but lacks the suicidal depression of his ComicBook/{{Ultimate|FantasticFour}} counterpart.



** Doom starts off as being kind of a dick like he was in the comics prior to the accident, but in the comics he became an AntiVillain and a WellIntentionedExtremist. In this movie, he becomes a SerialKiller and an OmnicidalManiac with a [[AGodAmI God complex]] because he thinks he's better than humanity.

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** Doom starts off as being kind of a dick like he was in the comics prior to the accident, but in the comics comics, he became an AntiVillain and a WellIntentionedExtremist. In this movie, he becomes a SerialKiller and an OmnicidalManiac with a [[AGodAmI God complex]] because he thinks he's better than humanity.



** Victor Von Doom is a straighter example in that, much like the [[Film/FantasticFour2005 last cinematic version]] he gets his powers in the same accident as the rest of the four. Instead of any of the magic mastery he has in the comics, he is given very vague, near god-like powers that resemble [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]].

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** Victor Von Doom is a straighter example in that, much like the [[Film/FantasticFour2005 last cinematic version]] he gets his powers in the same accident as the rest of the four. Instead of any of the magic mastery he has in the comics, he is given very vague, vaguely, near god-like powers that resemble [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]].



* AdaptationOriginConnection: Victor is present at the accident that empowers the other four, and once again becomes the BigBad. This is in line with the Ultimate and the 2005 film's origin, where in both he was present for the accident.

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* AdaptationOriginConnection: Victor is present at the accident that empowers the other four, and once again becomes the BigBad. This is in line with the Ultimate and the 2005 film's origin, where in wherein both he was present for the accident.



* AntiClimax: A major criticism toward the movie is that it has an extensive build-up that leads to a brief payoff that doesn't '''feel''' like a payoff. Namely, the movie doesn't have any major action setpieces involving superpowers until the last fifteen minutes in a scene that was cobbled together by the team who was doing the reshoots - and even then, the Doom VS FF battle only takes about five minutes from start to finish.

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* AntiClimax: A major criticism toward of the movie is that it has an extensive build-up that leads to a brief payoff that doesn't '''feel''' like a payoff. Namely, the movie doesn't have any major action setpieces involving superpowers until the last fifteen minutes in a scene that was cobbled together by the team who was doing the reshoots - and even then, the Doom VS FF battle only takes about five minutes from start to finish.



* AttackItsWeakPoint: After Doom's IForgotICouldFly moment in the final fight, he uses logical methods to disable the Four. [[spoiler:He uses rocks and dirt to smother Johnny's flames, covers Ben with boulders which hold him down, puts pressure on Sue's force field to force her to suffocate, and destroys the springs on Reed's containment suit that help him keep control of his stretchiness.]]
* BadassBookworm: The team (and Victor). Sue and Reed are outright geniuses, Johnny is talented at mechanics and engineering, and Ben not only comes from a mechanics background, but has been working with Reed long enough to know how the teleporter works.

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* AttackItsWeakPoint: After Doom's IForgotICouldFly moment in the final fight, he uses logical methods to disable the Four. [[spoiler:He uses rocks and dirt to smother Johnny's flames, covers Ben with boulders which that hold him down, puts pressure on Sue's force field to force her to suffocate, and destroys the springs on Reed's containment suit that help him keep control of his stretchiness.]]
* BadassBookworm: The team (and Victor). Sue and Reed are outright geniuses, Johnny is talented at mechanics and engineering, and Ben not only comes from a mechanics background, background but has been working with Reed long enough to know how the teleporter works.



** Victor is Latverian, but has been in the United States long enough to mostly lose his accent, although a bit of eastern European slips into his American accent.

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** Victor is Latverian, Latverian but has been in the United States long enough to mostly lose his accent, although a bit of eastern European slips into his American accent.



* CompositeCharacter: While the character is named Victor von Doom, and he has a bit of a shared background to his comics counterpart, once he gets superpowers, he starts to have more in common with Annihilus or Molecule Man, although his EvilPlan - [[spoiler:to recreate a world in his image after a degree of cosmic destruction]] - does not sound too far-removed from what would eventually happen in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', which was made while the film was already in post-production. [[spoiler:Furthermore, given that he effectively merges with Planet Zero itself and tries to consume Earth, shades of Ego the Living Planet and Galactus can be seen in him as well.]]

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* CompositeCharacter: While the character is named Victor von Doom, and he has a bit of a shared background to his comics counterpart, once he gets superpowers, he starts to have more in common with Annihilus or Molecule Man, although his EvilPlan - [[spoiler:to recreate a world in his image after a degree of cosmic destruction]] - does not sound too far-removed far removed from what would eventually happen in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', which was made while the film was already in post-production. [[spoiler:Furthermore, given that he effectively merges with Planet Zero itself and tries to consume Earth, shades of Ego the Living Planet and Galactus can be seen in him as well.]]



* EgocentricTeamNaming: At the end of the movie, when the group are trying to come up with an appropriate team name, Johnny's suggestion is "The Human Torch and the Torchettes".

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* EgocentricTeamNaming: At the end of the movie, when the group are is trying to come up with an appropriate team name, Johnny's suggestion is "The Human Torch and the Torchettes".



** Firstly, Victor is introduced with shaggy hair and beard, and Franklin tells him to clean himself up before joining the team. Next time we see him, he's cut the hair short and trimmed the beard. Additionally Reed and Sue's hair changes over the course of a year to reflect the passage of time: Sue's shoulder length hair grows a bit longer and Reed's hair is first worn flat and switches to being pushed back.
** In a bit of a meta example, Sue's hairstyle changes back and forth between scenes, as in some scenes in the middle Kate Mara is noticeably wearing a wig, and in the rest she isn't. This is "expository" of added reshoots.

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** Firstly, Victor is introduced with shaggy hair and beard, and Franklin tells him to clean himself up before joining the team. Next The next time we see him, he's cut the hair short and trimmed the beard. Additionally Additionally, Reed and Sue's hair changes over the course of a year to reflect the passage of time: Sue's shoulder length shoulder-length hair grows a bit longer and Reed's hair is first worn flat and switches to being pushed back.
** In a bit of a meta example, Sue's hairstyle changes back and forth between scenes, as in some scenes in the middle Kate Mara is noticeably wearing a wig, and in the rest rest, she isn't. This is "expository" of added reshoots.



* FullFrontalAssault: [[BarbieDollAnatomy Lacking any genitalia]], the Thing goes around completely naked throughout the film. Apparently the military didn't feel like springing for some pants.

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* FullFrontalAssault: [[BarbieDollAnatomy Lacking any genitalia]], the Thing goes around completely naked throughout the film. Apparently Apparently, the military didn't feel like springing for some pants.



* GodwinsLaw: Johnny calls Victor "UsefulNotes/{{Adolf|Hitler}}" for no reasons other than that he's European. It's not hard to see what he was implying there.

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* GodwinsLaw: Johnny calls Victor "UsefulNotes/{{Adolf|Hitler}}" for no reasons reason other than that he's European. It's not hard to see what he was implying there.



* HumansAreBastards: This is Victor von Doom’s view point, at one point stating that he doesn’t see what good could come from any of their scientific findings from the "Quantum Gate" experiment when people are already messing up the world enough as it is. [[spoiler:After being transformed by Planet Zero’s green energy lava and spending a year there, he is briefly brought back to Earth where he states his plan to wipe out the population of the Earth with a black hole and start a new world with only him alive on Planet Zero. His justification: "Humanity had its chance."]]

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* HumansAreBastards: This is Victor von Doom’s view point, viewpoint, at one point stating that he doesn’t see what good could come from any of their scientific findings from the "Quantum Gate" experiment when people are already messing up the world enough as it is. [[spoiler:After being transformed by Planet Zero’s green energy lava and spending a year there, he is briefly brought back to Earth where he states his plan to wipe out the population of the Earth with a black hole and start a new world with only him alive on Planet Zero. His justification: "Humanity had its chance."]]



* IJustWantToBeNormal: Everyone but Johnny and Victor post-transformation expresses this sentiment. Ben, Reed, and Sue all want to find a cure at first.

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* IJustWantToBeNormal: Everyone but Johnny and Victor post-transformation expresses express this sentiment. Ben, Reed, and Sue all want to find a cure at first.



* ImpliedDeathThreat: Reed, Johnny, Ben, and Sue all partake in one directed at [[spoiler:the military officials, threatening to use their powers against them if they aren't given autonomy and property]]. [[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 Our heroes, ladies and gentlemen!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: Reed's science teacher, dating all the way back to the 5th Grade. Reed's rattling off college level scientifics at an age 9 and he… dismisses his genius as nothing but pure imagination. Then came the science fair years later where they managed to make a working teleporter. Despite ''seeing for himself that the project works'', he disqualifies Reed, claiming it had "no real scientific merit" and dismisses it as a "magic trick".

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* ImpliedDeathThreat: Reed, Johnny, Ben, and Sue all partake in one directed at [[spoiler:the military officials, threatening to use their powers against them if they aren't given autonomy and property]]. [[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 Our heroes, ladies ladies, and gentlemen!]]
* {{Jerkass}}: Reed's science teacher, dating all the way back to the 5th Grade. Reed's rattling off college level scientifics college-level scientific ideas at an age 9 and he… dismisses his genius as nothing but pure imagination. Then came the science fair years later where they managed to make a working teleporter. Despite ''seeing for himself that the project works'', he disqualifies Reed, claiming it had "no real scientific merit" and dismisses it as a "magic trick".



* MagicalNegro: Franklin Storm imparts knowledge on the team and encourages them to move the plot of the film along. In fact, he does more to bring the team together than Reed does.

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* MagicalNegro: Franklin Storm imparts knowledge on to the team and encourages them to move the plot of the film along. In fact, he does more to bring the team together than Reed does.



* NeverTrustATrailer: A number of previews and press releases - most notably, the first trailer - tried to sell the movie as a sci-fi movie with a large emphasis on BodyHorror, and a {{Deconstruction}} of superhero tropes. The final product is essentially standard superhero fare, although BodyHorror does play a role into the superpowers at first. There are also '''numerous''' {{Missing Trailer Scene}}s that try making the movie look more action-oriented than it actually is, prominently teasing fight scenes between Reed and Ben and Johnny and Sue that only last seconds within the movie.
* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Doom's powers include energy blasts, telepathy, psychic attacks that cause head-explosions, summoning large conduits of energy, and whatever else the story needs at the moment.

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* NeverTrustATrailer: A number of previews and press releases - most notably, the first trailer - tried to sell the movie as a sci-fi movie with a large emphasis on BodyHorror, and a {{Deconstruction}} of superhero tropes. The final product is essentially standard superhero fare, although BodyHorror does play a role into in the superpowers at first. There are also '''numerous''' {{Missing Trailer Scene}}s that try making to make the movie look more action-oriented than it actually is, prominently teasing fight scenes between Reed and Ben and Johnny and Sue that only last seconds within the movie.
* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Doom's powers include energy blasts, telepathy, psychic attacks that cause head-explosions, head explosions, summoning large conduits of energy, and whatever else the story needs at the moment.



** An interesting example in that the retcon was made prior to the film actually being released. During an early interview, Toby Kebbell stated that Victor Von Doom's name had been changed to "Victor Domashev" in the script. Coupled with insinuations that he would be a hacker rather than a full-blown supervillain, there was so much backlash that the name was changed back to Von Doom in post-production, with all mentions of the Domashev name permanently erased.

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** An interesting example in is that the retcon was made prior to the film actually being released. During an early interview, Toby Kebbell stated that Victor Von Doom's name had been changed to "Victor Domashev" in the script. Coupled with insinuations that he would be a hacker rather than a full-blown supervillain, there was so much backlash that the name was changed back to Von Doom in post-production, with all mentions of the Domashev name permanently erased.



* PsychicPowers: Doom's superpowers are vaguely-defined [[Manga/{{Akira}} Tetsuo Shima-esque]] psychic abilities, minus the LovecraftianSuperpower aspects present in Tetsuo's SuperpowerMeltdown.

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* PsychicPowers: Doom's superpowers are vaguely-defined vaguely defined [[Manga/{{Akira}} Tetsuo Shima-esque]] psychic abilities, minus the LovecraftianSuperpower aspects present in Tetsuo's SuperpowerMeltdown.



* SeriesContinuityError: Sue Storm's hair switches between Kate Mara's natural hair and a noticeable blonde wig that looks much faker and is even a noticeably different color and style. Some have noted this as a sign of what shots were done as reshoots.

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* SeriesContinuityError: Sue Storm's hair switches between Kate Mara's natural hair and a noticeable blonde wig that looks much faker is painfully noticeable and is even a noticeably different color and style. Some have noted this as a sign of what shots were done as reshoots.



* SmashCut: When the team are coming up with a name, the movie ends on them coming to decide that "Fantastic Four" would be the best pick - but the movie switches to the title card of the credits before they actually say it, subverting the TitleDrop trope in the process.

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* SmashCut: When the team are is coming up with a name, the movie ends on them coming to decide that "Fantastic Four" would be the best pick - but the movie switches to the title card of the credits before they actually say it, subverting the TitleDrop trope in the process.



** Upon release, some have taken to comparing the movie to ''Film/{{Hulk}}''. Both films largely focus on the backstories of the characters over the superheroics themselves, and are grounded in science.

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** Upon release, some have taken to comparing the movie to ''Film/{{Hulk}}''. Both films largely focus on the backstories of the characters over the superheroics themselves, themselves and are grounded in science.



* SuperheroMovieVillainsDie: [[spoiler:It's a plot point that Doom has to die, since his death is the only thing that will stop Planet Zero.]]

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* SuperheroMovieVillainsDie: [[spoiler:It's a plot point that Doom has to die, die since his death is the only thing that will stop Planet Zero.]]
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* BigNo: Doom screams this upon his defeat and death.
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* PartingWordsRegret: The last time Johnny and Franklin talked is when Johnny blames his dad for his condition in the first place by making him work for him. After Franklin was killed by Doom, Johnny cried that he's sorry.

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* PartingWordsRegret: The last time Johnny and Franklin talked is when Johnny blames his dad for his condition in the first place by making him because Franklin made Johnny work for him.him to keep him out of trouble. After Franklin was killed by Doom, Johnny cried that he's sorry.
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* RelatedInTheAdaptation: Inverted. Sue is biologically related to Johnny and Franklin in the comics - but is adopted in this film.

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* RelatedInTheAdaptation: Inverted. RelatedDifferentlyInTheAdaptation: In the comics, Sue Storm is biologically related to the biological daughter of Franklin Storm and biological sister of Johnny Storm. In this film, she was adopted into the Storm family; this is mostly because Creator/MichaelBJordan and Creator/RegECathey, both of whom are black, were cast as Johnny and Franklin in the comics - but Franklin, respectively, while Creator/KateMara, who is adopted in white, was cast as Sue (Creator/JoshTrank stated he wanted to cast a black actress as Sue, presumably averting this film.trope, but the higher-ups vetoed it).
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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate, to be directed by SpiderManHomecoming director Jon Watts.

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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate, to be directed by SpiderManHomecoming Film/SpiderManHomecoming director Jon Watts.
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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate.

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In November 2017, a little over two years after the movie was released, Creator/{{Disney}} revealed that they would end up buying a large portion of Fox's entertainment assets, including 20th Century Fox, and by extension, the ''Fantastic Four'' and ''X-Men'' film rights. After sealing the initial deal in December 2017, Disney would complete the acquisition in March 2019. Disney CEO Bob Iger confirmed that there are plans to make use of the ''Fantastic Four'' IP within the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which Creator/MarvelStudios President Creator/KevinFeige would confirm that a new film was being developed as part of Marvel's post-Phase 4 slate.slate, to be directed by SpiderManHomecoming director Jon Watts.

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