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* BluffingTheMurderer: After Hardy comes to suspect that [[spoiler:Colonel Styles]] is involved, he tries to do this. At first [[spoiler:Colonel Styles]] brushes it off and calls Hardy's bluff, but then he tries to bribe Hardy into silence.
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* BluffingTheMurderer: After Hardy comes to suspect that [[spoiler:Colonel Styles]] is involved, he tries to do this. At first [[spoiler:Colonel Styles]] brushes it off and calls Hardy's bluff, but then he tries to bribe Hardy into silence.
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* BluffingTheMurderer: After Hardy comes to suspect that [[spoiler:Colonel Styles]] is involved, he tries to do
* TheEndingChangesEverything: The ending reveals that [[spoiler:Hardy is working with a secret undercover investigative unit that was trying to bring down Colonel Styles and his corrupt drug pushers at the base. Furthermore, practically all of the "dead" Ranger trainees and Sergeant West himself are all either part of or affiliated with that group.]]
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* MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot: Once the witnesses start talking, things just keep escalating. Since we started with five people presumed dead, ([[DrillSergeantNasty one of whom]] is described as "The face of the modern Army") that's rather impressive.
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* MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot: Once the witnesses start talking, things just keep escalating. Since we started with five people presumed dead, dead under suspcious circumstances, ([[DrillSergeantNasty one of whom]] is described as "The face of the modern Army") that's rather impressive.
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* LargeHam: Hardy.
* MakeItLookLikeAnAccident[=/=]TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: In the words of Sgt. West: "Those of you I find lacking will quit. And those of you who refuse to quit will have a training accident. This base suffers three training accidents a year. Unfortunate accidents that I will not hesitate to repeat if you cross me!"
** Well, accident may not necessarily imply that they will die, just that they will be too severely injured to continue.
* MakeItLookLikeAnAccident[=/=]TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: In the words of Sgt. West: "Those of you I find lacking will quit. And those of you who refuse to quit will have a training accident. This base suffers three training accidents a year. Unfortunate accidents that I will not hesitate to repeat if you cross me!"
** Well, accident may not necessarily imply that they will die, just that they will be too severely injured to continue.
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%% * LargeHam: Hardy.
*MakeItLookLikeAnAccident[=/=]TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: MakeItLookLikeAnAccident: In the words of Sgt. West: "Those of you I find lacking will quit. And those of you who refuse to quit will have a training accident. This base suffers three training accidents a year. Unfortunate accidents that I will not hesitate to repeat if you cross me!"
** Well, accident may not necessarily imply that they will die, just that they will be too severely injured to continue.me!"
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** Well, accident may not necessarily imply that they will die, just that they will be too severely injured to continue.
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* GambitPileupGambitPileup: Dunbar's telling one tale. Kendall's telling another. Styles just wants the whole thing taken care of. [[spoiler: He also doesn't want his side business of selling "combat cocktails" with Dr. Vilmer going under.]] And Hardy and Capt. Osborne have the unenviable task of figuring out who's telling the truth, and who's trying to save their own ass. [[spoiler: Hardy also has to do all this without giving away his membership in Section 8.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Tom Hardy
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** Hardy claims that Dunbar is trying to pull this on him when Dunbar mentions the drug ring on base, more or less saying "You hear I'm DEA, so you mention drugs, figure that will get my attention and get me on your side, right?"
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** Hardy claims that Dunbar is trying to pull this on him when Dunbar mentions the drug ring on base, more or less saying "You hear know I'm DEA, so you figure you mention drugs, figure that will get my attention and get me on your side, right?"I'm all ears!"
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense and grueling, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, no women graduated from Ranger training until 2015 while the story clearly takes place at the end of the 90s, etc. That said, numerous characters practically say that West only got away with using such methods because of his prestige, and also [[spoiler:virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense and grueling, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then Then, there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, no women graduated from Ranger training until 2015 while the story clearly takes place at the end of the 90s, etc. That said, numerous characters practically say that West only got away with using such methods because of his prestige, prestige, [[spoiler: and also [[spoiler:virtually also, virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
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After a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took about half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter was sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter drew near, one of the trainees can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third trainee goes down.
None of the other soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Capt. Julia Osborne (Creator/ConnieNielsen) will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses ''do'' start talking and try to spin what happened to their benefit.
None of the other soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Capt. Julia Osborne (Creator/ConnieNielsen) will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses ''do'' start talking and try to spin what happened to their benefit.
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After a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took about half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter was sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter drew near, one of the trainees can be seen carrying another another, who is apparently wounded. Suddenly Suddenly, a third trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third trainee goes down.
None of the other soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Capt. Julia Osborne (Creator/ConnieNielsen) will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses''do'' start talking and try to spin what happened to their benefit.
None of the other soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Capt. Julia Osborne (Creator/ConnieNielsen) will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses
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Tom Hardy (Travolta) is a [=DEA=] agent and former U.S. Army Ranger operating in Panama, who is currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's corrupt. While on suspension, he is called upon by old Army buddy Col. Bill Styles (Creator/TimDaly), the commander of a nearby U.S. military base that is a few months away from closing, to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant, Sgt. Nathan West (Jackson). A training exercise that appears to have resulted in multiple deaths and soldiers being MIA.
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Tom Hardy (Travolta) is a [=DEA=] agent and former U.S. Army Ranger operating in Panama, who is currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's corrupt. While on suspension, he is called upon by old Army buddy Col. Bill Styles (Creator/TimDaly), the commander of a nearby U.S. military base that is a few months away from closing, to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant, Sgt. Nathan West (Jackson). A training exercise (Jackson), one that appears to have resulted in multiple deaths and soldiers being MIA.
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''Basic'' is a 2003 thriller film directed by Creator/JohnMcTiernan.
Tom Hardy (Creator/JohnTravolta) is a [=DEA=] agent (and former US Army Ranger) operating in Panama who is currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's corrupt. While on suspension, he is called upon by old Army buddy Colonel Bill Styles, (the commander of a nearby US military base that is a few months away from closing) to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant Sgt. Nathan West (Creator/SamuelLJackson). A training exercise that appears to have resulted in multiple deaths and soldiers being MIA.
''Basic'' is a 2003 thriller film directed by Creator/JohnMcTiernan.
Tom Hardy (Creator/JohnTravolta) is a [=DEA=] agent (and former US Army Ranger) operating in Panama who is currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's corrupt. While on suspension, he is called upon by old Army buddy Colonel Bill Styles, (the commander of a nearby US military base that is a few months away from closing) to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant Sgt. Nathan West (Creator/SamuelLJackson). A training exercise that appears to have resulted in multiple deaths and soldiers being MIA.
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''Basic'' is a 2003
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None of the others soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses ''do'' start talking and try to spin what happened to their benefit.
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None of the others other soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne Capt. Julia Osborne (Creator/ConnieNielsen) will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses ''do'' start talking and try to spin what happened to their benefit.benefit.
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Tom Hardy (Creator/JohnTravolta), a [=DEA=] agent (currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's on the payroll of a drug cartel) and former US Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant Sgt. Nathan West (Creator/SamuelLJackson). A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took about half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one trainee can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third trainee goes down.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses do start talking and try to spin what happened to their own benefit.
The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took about half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one trainee can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third trainee goes down.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses do start talking and try to spin what happened to their own benefit.
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Tom Hardy (Creator/JohnTravolta), (Creator/JohnTravolta) is a [=DEA=] agent (currently (and former US Army Ranger) operating in Panama who is currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's corrupt. While on the payroll of a drug cartel) and former US Army Ranger operating in Panama who suspension, he is called upon by old Army buddy Colonel Bill Styles at Styles, (the commander of a nearby US military base that is a few months away from closing) to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant Sgt. Nathan West (Creator/SamuelLJackson). A training exercise that appears to have resulted in multiple casualties.
The only things known for sure is that afterdeaths and soldiers being MIA.
After a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took about half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopteris was sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws drew near, one trainee of the trainees can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third trainee goes down.
None of the others soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnessesdo ''do'' start talking and try to spin what happened to their own benefit.
The only things known for sure is that after
After a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took about half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter
None of the others soldiers (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense and grueling, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, no women graduated from Ranger training until 2015, etc. That said, numerous characters practically say that West only got away with using such methods because of his prestige, and also [[spoiler:virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense and grueling, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, no women graduated from Ranger training until 2015, 2015 while the story clearly takes place at the end of the 90s, etc. That said, numerous characters practically say that West only got away with using such methods because of his prestige, and also [[spoiler:virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
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* BluffingTheMurderer: After Hardy comes to suspect [[spoiler:Styles]] is involved, he tries to do this. At first [[spoiler:Styles]] brushes it off and calls Hardy's bluff, but then he tries to bribe Hardy into silence.
* TheChessmaster:Tom Hardy
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* BluffingTheMurderer: After Hardy comes to suspect [[spoiler:Styles]] that [[spoiler:Colonel Styles]] is involved, he tries to do this. At first [[spoiler:Styles]] [[spoiler:Colonel Styles]] brushes it off and calls Hardy's bluff, but then he tries to bribe Hardy into silence.
*TheChessmaster:Tom TheChessmaster: Tom Hardy
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* FromCamouflageToCriminal: The base is dogged by rumors that some former Army Rangers and covert ops guys in the area went rogue and set themselves up as a crime syndicate. It's also speculated that they may have had something to do with West's disappearance, as many of them members were said to be former trainees of West, who hated him as much as any of his other trainees did. [[spoiler:This is eventually proven to be untrue, but a number of people on the base, including Colonel Styles himself, are involved in illegal criminal activities.]]
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* FromCamouflageToCriminal: The base is dogged by rumors that some former Army Rangers and covert ops guys in the area went rogue and set themselves up as a crime syndicate. It's also speculated that they may have had something to do with West's disappearance, as many of them the members were said to be former trainees of West, who hated him as much as any of his other trainees did. [[spoiler:This is eventually proven to be untrue, but a number of people on the base, including Colonel Styles himself, are involved in illegal criminal activities.]]
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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: Subverted, [[spoiler:Styles points out that as Kendall was vomiting blood before he died, poison is a reasonable guess.]]
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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: Subverted, [[spoiler:Styles points out that as Kendall was suddenly started vomiting blood before he died, poison is a reasonable guess.]]
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* MagnificentBastard:Tom MagnificentBastard: Tom Hardy
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* TheNeidermeyer: West. Every trainee who was trained by him hated him, even to the point that Hardy comments that someone finally snapping and trying to kill West was inevitable.
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* TheNeidermeyer: West. Every trainee who was trained by him hated him, even to the point that Hardy comments that someone finally snapping and trying to kill West was inevitable.
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'''''Basic''''' is a 2003 thriller film directed by John [=McTiernan=].
JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent (currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's on the payroll of a drug cartel) and former US Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[Creator/SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
'''''Basic''''' is a 2003 thriller film directed by John [=McTiernan=].
JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent (currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's on the payroll of a drug cartel) and former US Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[Creator/SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
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The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one trainee can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third trainee goes down.
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The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took about half a dozen of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one trainee can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third trainee goes down.
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* FromCamouflageToCriminal: The base is dogged by rumors that some former Army Rangers and covert ops guys in the area went rogue and set themselves up as a crime syndicate. It's also speculated that they may have had something to do with West's disappearance, as many of them members were said to be former trainees of West, who hated him as much as any of his other trainees did. [[spoiler:This is eventually proven to be untrue, but a number of people on the base, including Colonel Styles himself, are involved in illegal criminal activities.]]
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* HelicopterBlender: Hardy threatens to do this to [[spoiler: as part of his JackBauerInterrogationTechnique.
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* HelicopterBlender: Hardy threatens to do this to [[spoiler: [[spoiler:Dunbar]] as part of his JackBauerInterrogationTechnique.
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JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent and former Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[Creator/SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
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JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent (currently on suspension due to suspicion that he's on the payroll of a drug cartel) and former US Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[Creator/SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
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* BatmanGambit: Hardy acts this way through most of the movie, though it takes a second or third viewing to see it as such. A particularly good example is when he tries to get Osborne to leave Kendall out of the report to Styles after their interrogation of Vilmer. He knows she won't leave it alone, so he sets her up to push the issue, thereby leaving him to seemingly follow her lead.
* BlastOut: [[spoiler:Several of the flashbacks end up in this.]]
* BlastOut: [[spoiler:Several of the flashbacks end up in this.]]
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* BatmanGambit: BatmanGambit:
** Hardy claims that Dunbar is trying to pull this on him when Dunbar mentions the drug ring on base, more or less saying "You hear I'm DEA, so you mention drugs, figure that will get my attention and get me on your side, right?"
**Hardy acts this way through most of the movie, though it takes a second or third viewing to see it as such. A particularly good example is when he tries to get Osborne to leave Kendall out of the report to Styles after their interrogation of Vilmer. He knows she won't leave it alone, so he sets her up to push the issue, thereby leaving him to seemingly follow her lead.
* BlastOut:[[spoiler:Several Several of the flashbacks end up in this.]]
** Hardy claims that Dunbar is trying to pull this on him when Dunbar mentions the drug ring on base, more or less saying "You hear I'm DEA, so you mention drugs, figure that will get my attention and get me on your side, right?"
**Hardy acts this way through most of the movie, though it takes a second or third viewing to see it as such. A particularly good example is when he tries to get Osborne to leave Kendall out of the report to Styles after their interrogation of Vilmer. He knows she won't leave it alone, so he sets her up to push the issue, thereby leaving him to seemingly follow her lead.
* BlastOut:
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* DirtyCop: Hardy is under investigation, accused of taking bribes.
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* DirtyCop: Hardy is under investigation, accused of taking bribes. \n Kendall even tells Osbourne to ask how many people Hardy has killed for the sake of "his" drug dealers.
*DrillSergeantNastyDrillSergeantNasty: This is West's calling card, with the implication that he is at least somewhat sadistic but gets away with his questionable methods due to his prestige.
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* HelicopterBlender: Hardy threatens to do this to [[spoiler: as part of his JackBauerInterrogationTechnique.
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** Samuel L. Jackson's character wears the rank of specialist (E-4) and has higher-ranking people addressing him as "sir."
** The film featured a female Ranger without any comment on it. In real life the first successful female graduates of Ranger training only happened during the summer of 2015, (and the Army may still refuse to allow them to formally serve as Rangers) and the film is set at least a dozen years earlier and not in an alternate universe.
** The film featured a female Ranger without any comment on it. In real life the first successful female graduates of Ranger training only happened during the summer of 2015, (and the Army may still refuse to allow them to formally serve as Rangers) and the film is set at least a dozen years earlier and not in an alternate universe.
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** Samuel L. Jackson's character wears the rank of specialist (E-4) rather than a sergeant (most likely E-6 or E-7 for a drill instructor, possibly higher for one with the fame/notoriety of West) and consistently has higher-ranking people addressing him as "sir."
** The film featured a female Ranger without any comment on it. In real life the first successful female graduates of Ranger training only happened during the summer of 2015, (and the Army may still refuse to allow them to formally serve as Rangers) and the film is setat least a dozen years earlier no later than the end of the 90s, (all US Army bases in Panama were officially abandoned no later than 1999-2000, and Styles mentions that the base is only months away from closing down) and not in an alternate universe.
** The film featured a female Ranger without any comment on it. In real life the first successful female graduates of Ranger training only happened during the summer of 2015, (and the Army may still refuse to allow them to formally serve as Rangers) and the film is set
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* TheNeidermeyer: West. Every trainee who was trained by him hated him, even to the point that Hardy comments that someone finally snapping and trying to kill West was inevitable.
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* TheRashomon An interesting case, as we see the same two perspectives through multiple retellings. In addition, [[spoiler: none of the stories are true. The truth isn't revealed until the very end, and technically, we never find out ''exactly'' what happened on the island.]]
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* TheRashomon An interesting case, as we see the same two perspectives through multiple retellings. retellings, with each person changing their version multiple times. In addition, [[spoiler: none [[spoiler:none of the stories are true. The truth isn't revealed until the very end, and technically, we never find out ''exactly'' what happened on the island.]]]]
* RightUnderTheirNoses:
** [[spoiler:Dunbar is actually Pike. He switched dog tags, which don't specify race, and has been trying to throw everyone off his trail. (Or at least so it appears at the time, as the ending throws that out the window.) How no one on the base recognized him or checked his ID in any other way than his dog tags may cause some FridgeLogic, however.]]
** In several of the flashbacks, Sgt. West angrily reprimands the trainees for [[spoiler:being part of a drug smuggling/distribution ring]] and trying to get away with it under his nose.
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** [[spoiler:Dunbar is actually Pike. He switched dog tags, which don't specify race, and has been trying to throw everyone off his trail. (Or at least so it appears at the time, as the ending throws that out the window.) How no one on the base recognized him or checked his ID in any other way than his dog tags may cause some FridgeLogic, however.]]
** In several of the flashbacks, Sgt. West angrily reprimands the trainees for [[spoiler:being part of a drug smuggling/distribution ring]] and trying to get away with it under his nose.
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The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took half a dozen soldiers to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one soldier can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third soldier pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third soldier goes down.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses start talking and trying to spin what happened to their own benefit.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses start talking and trying to spin what happened to their own benefit.
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The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took half a dozen soldiers of his Ranger trainees to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one soldier trainee can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third soldier trainee pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third soldier trainee goes down.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses do start talking andtrying try to spin what happened to their own benefit.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses do start talking and
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, there are no female rangers, etc. That said, numerous characters say West was practically a monster who only got away with using such methods because of his prestige. [[spoiler:Also, virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense, intense and grueling, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, there are no female rangers, women graduated from Ranger training until 2015, etc. That said, numerous characters say West was practically a monster who say that West only got away with using such methods because of his prestige. [[spoiler:Also, virtually prestige, and also [[spoiler:virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
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* NamesTheSame: [[Creator/TomHardy John Travolta]] [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises will not be breaking anyone]].
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JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent and former Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
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JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent and former Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[SamuelLJackson [[Creator/SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
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''Basic'' is a 2003 thriller film directed by John [=McTiernan=].
JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent and former Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took half a dozen soldiers to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one soldier can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third soldier pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third soldier goes down.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses start talking and trying to spin what happened to their own benefit.
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!!This film contains examples of:
* ArcWords: "All we have to do is tell the story right..."
* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, there are no female rangers, etc. That said, numerous characters say West was practically a monster who only got away with using such methods because of his prestige. [[spoiler:Also, virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
* BatmanGambit: Hardy acts this way through most of the movie, though it takes a second or third viewing to see it as such. A particularly good example is when he tries to get Osborne to leave Kendall out of the report to Styles after their interrogation of Vilmer. He knows she won't leave it alone, so he sets her up to push the issue, thereby leaving him to seemingly follow her lead.
* BlastOut: [[spoiler:Several of the flashbacks end up in this.]]
* BluffingTheMurderer: After Hardy comes to suspect [[spoiler:Styles]] is involved, he tries to do this. At first [[spoiler:Styles]] brushes it off and calls Hardy's bluff, but then he tries to bribe Hardy into silence.
* DirtyCop: Hardy is under investigation, accused of taking bribes.
* DrillSergeantNasty
* ElitesAreMoreGlamorous: The movie revolves entirely around US Army Rangers.
* FakingTheDead: [[spoiler:Pretty much everyone who was killed in flashbacks is revealed to not be dead.]]
* GambitPileup
* INeverSaidItWasPoison: Subverted, [[spoiler:Styles points out that as Kendall was vomiting blood before he died, poison is a reasonable guess.]]
* LargeHam: Hardy.
* MakeItLookLikeAnAccident[=/=]TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: In the words of Sgt. West: "Those of you I find lacking will quit. And those of you who refuse to quit will have a training accident. This base suffers three training accidents a year. Unfortunate accidents that I will not hesitate to repeat if you cross me!"
** Well, accident may not necessarily imply that they will die, just that they will be too severely injured to continue.
* MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot: Once the witnesses start talking, things just keep escalating. Since we started with five people presumed dead, ([[DrillSergeantNasty one of whom]] is described as "The face of the modern Army") that's rather impressive.
* NamesTheSame: [[TomHardy John Travolta]] [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises will not be breaking anyone]].
* TheNeidermeyer: West.
* NeverFoundTheBody: It's commented that as none of the bodies can be found, proving anyone's story will be hard. Justified, as it's also said that hurricane could have blown the bodies anywhere. [[spoiler: Even more Justified, they aren't actually dead.]]
* TheRashomon An interesting case, as we see the same two perspectives through multiple retellings. In addition, [[spoiler: none of the stories are true. The truth isn't revealed until the very end, and technically, we never find out ''exactly'' what happened on the island.]]
* RogueAgent: A story circulating around the base is that a group of Rangers who trained under West (and like everyone else, hated West) went rogue and set themselves up as a drug syndicate. Now West and most of his latest group of trainees are missing...
* ScaryBlackMan: Sgt. West, who is also a BaldBlackLeaderGuy.
* TrainingFromHell: They even call it Green Hell.
* UnfriendlyFire
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''Basic'' is a 2003 thriller film directed by John [=McTiernan=].
JohnTravolta plays Tom Hardy, a [=DEA=] agent and former Army Ranger operating in Panama who is called upon by old Army buddy Bill Styles at a nearby base to investigate a training exercise that was being led by Hardy's old drill sergeant [[SamuelLJackson Sgt. Nathan West]]. A training exercise that resulted in multiple casualties.
The only things known for sure is that after a prolonged and grueling training period, Sgt. West took half a dozen soldiers to a remote location for a live fire exercise just as a hurricane is barreling down on them. After 17 hours without radio contact, a helicopter is sent in to pick them up. As the helicopter draws near, one soldier can be seen carrying another who is apparently wounded. Suddenly a third soldier pops out of the forest and starts shooting at the two of them. After an exchange of gunfire, the third soldier goes down.
None of the others (including West) have been found, and neither of the witnesses are talking. To get to the bottom of what happened and why, Hardy and Army investigator Julie Osbourne will have to deal with lies and deceptions from the moment that Hardy sets foot on the base, and it'll only get worse as the witnesses start talking and trying to spin what happened to their own benefit.
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!!This film contains examples of:
* ArcWords: "All we have to do is tell the story right..."
* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Ranger training is intense, but no army in the world would let West use some of the methods he does. Then there's the fact that West's rank insignia keeps changing, there are no female rangers, etc. That said, numerous characters say West was practically a monster who only got away with using such methods because of his prestige. [[spoiler:Also, virtually everyone was lying, and Nuñez was part of Section 8 and therefore only undercover as a Ranger, not an actual one.]]
* BatmanGambit: Hardy acts this way through most of the movie, though it takes a second or third viewing to see it as such. A particularly good example is when he tries to get Osborne to leave Kendall out of the report to Styles after their interrogation of Vilmer. He knows she won't leave it alone, so he sets her up to push the issue, thereby leaving him to seemingly follow her lead.
* BlastOut: [[spoiler:Several of the flashbacks end up in this.]]
* BluffingTheMurderer: After Hardy comes to suspect [[spoiler:Styles]] is involved, he tries to do this. At first [[spoiler:Styles]] brushes it off and calls Hardy's bluff, but then he tries to bribe Hardy into silence.
* DirtyCop: Hardy is under investigation, accused of taking bribes.
* DrillSergeantNasty
* ElitesAreMoreGlamorous: The movie revolves entirely around US Army Rangers.
* FakingTheDead: [[spoiler:Pretty much everyone who was killed in flashbacks is revealed to not be dead.]]
* GambitPileup
* INeverSaidItWasPoison: Subverted, [[spoiler:Styles points out that as Kendall was vomiting blood before he died, poison is a reasonable guess.]]
* LargeHam: Hardy.
* MakeItLookLikeAnAccident[=/=]TheCoronerDothProtestTooMuch: In the words of Sgt. West: "Those of you I find lacking will quit. And those of you who refuse to quit will have a training accident. This base suffers three training accidents a year. Unfortunate accidents that I will not hesitate to repeat if you cross me!"
** Well, accident may not necessarily imply that they will die, just that they will be too severely injured to continue.
* MinorCrimeRevealsMajorPlot: Once the witnesses start talking, things just keep escalating. Since we started with five people presumed dead, ([[DrillSergeantNasty one of whom]] is described as "The face of the modern Army") that's rather impressive.
* NamesTheSame: [[TomHardy John Travolta]] [[Film/TheDarkKnightRises will not be breaking anyone]].
* TheNeidermeyer: West.
* NeverFoundTheBody: It's commented that as none of the bodies can be found, proving anyone's story will be hard. Justified, as it's also said that hurricane could have blown the bodies anywhere. [[spoiler: Even more Justified, they aren't actually dead.]]
* TheRashomon An interesting case, as we see the same two perspectives through multiple retellings. In addition, [[spoiler: none of the stories are true. The truth isn't revealed until the very end, and technically, we never find out ''exactly'' what happened on the island.]]
* RogueAgent: A story circulating around the base is that a group of Rangers who trained under West (and like everyone else, hated West) went rogue and set themselves up as a drug syndicate. Now West and most of his latest group of trainees are missing...
* ScaryBlackMan: Sgt. West, who is also a BaldBlackLeaderGuy.
* TrainingFromHell: They even call it Green Hell.
* UnfriendlyFire
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