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* InformedDeformity: Going by Frank's extreme reaction of horror, it seems like Simon's face had been put in a blender instead of looking like he got beaten up with fairly regular stitches, swelling and bruises.
** To be sure, Jackie (Simon's assistant) starts crying as soon as she sees Simon's face, so it's not just Frank.
** To be sure, Jackie (Simon's assistant) starts crying as soon as she sees Simon's face, so it's not just Frank.
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* InformedDeformity: Going by Frank's extreme reaction of horror, horror and Jackie's crying, it seems like Simon's face had been put in a blender instead of looking like he got beaten up with fairly regular stitches, swelling and bruises.
** To be sure, Jackie (Simon's assistant) starts crying as soon as she sees Simon's face, so it's not just Frank.bruises.
** To be sure, Jackie (Simon's assistant) starts crying as soon as she sees Simon's face, so it's not just Frank.
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* TheCameo: Creator/LawrenceKasdan plays Melvin's doctor, and Creator/ToddSolondz is one of the passengers on the bus when Carol goes to see Melvin. Creator/HaroldRamis plays Spencer's new doctor, hired by Melvin.
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* TheCameo: Creator/LawrenceKasdan plays Melvin's doctor, and Creator/ToddSolondz is one of the passengers on the bus when Carol goes to see Melvin. Creator/HaroldRamis plays Spencer's new doctor, hired by Melvin. Creator/ShaneBlack plays the manager of the restaurant where Carol works.
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* TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers: After Simon tells Carol about his DarkAndTroubledPast, while Melvin sulks in the back seat:
-->'''Carol:''' We all have these terrible stories to get over, and you-\\
'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with boats and friends and noodle salad, just no one in this car.
-->'''Carol:''' We all have these terrible stories to get over, and you-\\
'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with boats and friends and noodle salad, just no one in this car.
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* TheTriple: After Simon tells Carol about his DarkAndTroubledPast, while Melvin sulks in the back seat:
-->'''Carol:''' We all have these terrible stories to get over, and you-\\
'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with '''boats and friends and ''noodle salad''''', just no one in this car.
-->'''Carol:''' We all have these terrible stories to get over, and you-\\
'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with '''boats and friends and ''noodle salad''''', just no one in this car.
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* HollywoodPudgy: The waitress taking over Carol's shift whom Melvin insults by comparing her to an elephant.
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* HollywoodPudgy: The waitress taking over Carol's shift whom Melvin insults by comparing her to an elephant.
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!!The film provides examples of the following:
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* BondingOverDislikes: The first conversation between Melvin and Simon that doesn't involve Melvin insulting him is when they talk about hating the feeling of being tired. It marks the first step to them finally becoming friends.
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* VillainousValor: Well, more "{{Jerkass}}" than "villainous", but Melvin, despite his repulsive demeanor, is still a successful novelist who can work from home, implying he has a degree of grit and determination.
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** Another one nestled inside: Carol tries sorting her messy belongings and shoving them into a suitcase, while complaining that it's impossible to pack for the trip. Cut to Melvin, his packing neatly sorted, bagged, and arranged while he marks off a checklist of what he's taking.
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* {{Irony}}: Melvin, a bigoted curmudgeon who's so antisocial he can barely engage in human talk and is horrible at relationships, is a prolific and successful ''romance novelist.''
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Doesn't meet much of the qualifications
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* OscarBait: For reasons that have mostly to do with Creator/JackNicholson. Oh, it also won for Best Actor and Best Actress.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: ''Melvin'', and "jerk" may be too light a term. Once they get back from Maryland, we notice the changes for the better. The entire movie is basically a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, with Carol ultimately managing to reform Melvin through kindness.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: ''Melvin'', and "jerk" may be too light a term. Once they get back from Maryland, we notice the changes for the better. The entire movie is basically a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, him becoming much nicer, with Carol ultimately managing to reform Melvin through kindness.
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* MayDecemberRomance: Despite her insistence that she'll never sleep with him, Carol does end up falling for the much older and more cynical Melvin. [[note]](Jack Nicholson was 60 and Helen Hunt was 34.)[[/note]]
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: ''Melvin'', and "jerk" may be too light a term. Once they get back from Maryland, we notice the changes for the better.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: ''Melvin'', and "jerk" may be too light a term. Once they get back from Maryland, we notice the changes for the better. The entire movie is basically a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, with Carol ultimately managing to reform Melvin through kindness.
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* LivingEmotionalCrutch: Carol serves as this for Melvin and, eventually, Simon.
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* StrugglingSingleMother: Carol.
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--Carol Connolly (Hunt): a beleaguered single mom, working a comfortable (if somewhat unfulfilling) waitress job at a Manhattan diner. Melvin's chosen waitress--for little other reason than his OCD-fuelled dependence on her, and, at least in his mind, her willingness to put up with him. Lives with her mother and chronically-ill son, Spencer (Creator/{{Jesse James|Actor}}, in Brooklyn.
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--Carol Connolly (Hunt): a beleaguered single mom, working a comfortable (if somewhat unfulfilling) waitress job at a Manhattan diner. Melvin's chosen waitress--for little other reason than his OCD-fuelled dependence on her, and, at least in his mind, her willingness to put up with him. Lives with her mother and chronically-ill son, Spencer (Creator/{{Jesse James|Actor}}, James|Actor}}) in Brooklyn.
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--Carol Connolly (Hunt): a beleaguered single mom, working a comfortable (if somewhat unfulfilling) waitress job at a Manhattan diner. Melvin's chosen waitress--for little other reason than his OCD-fuelled dependence on her, and, at least in his mind, her willingness to put up with him. Lives with her mother and chronically-ill son, Spencer (Creator/{{Jesse James|actor}}, in Brooklyn.
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--Carol Connolly (Hunt): a beleaguered single mom, working a comfortable (if somewhat unfulfilling) waitress job at a Manhattan diner. Melvin's chosen waitress--for little other reason than his OCD-fuelled dependence on her, and, at least in his mind, her willingness to put up with him. Lives with her mother and chronically-ill son, Spencer (Creator/{{Jesse James|actor}}, James|Actor}}, in Brooklyn.
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--Carol Connolly (Hunt): a beleaguered single mom, working a comfortable (if somewhat unfulfilling) waitress job at a Manhattan diner. Melvin's chosen waitress--for little other reason than his OCD-fuelled dependence on her, and, at least in his mind, her willingness to put up with him. Lives with her mother and chronically-ill son, Spencer, in Brooklyn.
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--Carol Connolly (Hunt): a beleaguered single mom, working a comfortable (if somewhat unfulfilling) waitress job at a Manhattan diner. Melvin's chosen waitress--for little other reason than his OCD-fuelled dependence on her, and, at least in his mind, her willingness to put up with him. Lives with her mother and chronically-ill son, Spencer, Spencer (Creator/{{Jesse James|actor}}, in Brooklyn.
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* NoAntagonist: Though there are brief instances of villainous characters in Simon's story (the robbers and his unseen cold-hearted father), the story ultimately focuses on Melvin overcoming his struggles and getting with Carol.
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[[caption-width-right:350:"You make me want to be a better man."]]
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-->''Which is probably why I hug Simon more than he needs me to. Poor kid doesn't have enough problems in his life, he has to make up for his mom not getting any.''
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-->''Which is probably why I hug Simon Spence more than he needs me to. Poor kid doesn't have enough problems in his life, he has to make up for his mom not getting any.''
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-->'''Melvin:''' [[{{Touche}} All right, I give you that one.]]
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** To be sure, Jackie (Simon's assistant) starts crying as soon as she sees Simon's face, so it's not just Frank.
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* OnSecondThought: In Carol's first scene, when Melvin is badgering her to get his table free, she says he can sit at another table, at which point all of her co-workers immediately gasp in fear. She then says, "Or, you could wait."
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* YouNeedToGetLaid: Carol says this about herself during the conversation with her mother when she breaks down crying, and is talking about seeing a couple, while on the bus, being "adorable" with one another:
-->''Which is probably why I hug Simon more than he needs me to. Poor kid doesn't have enough problems in his life, he has to make up for his mom not getting any.''
-->''Which is probably why I hug Simon more than he needs me to. Poor kid doesn't have enough problems in his life, he has to make up for his mom not getting any.''
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-->'''Carol:''' We all have these terrible stories to get over, and you-
-->'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with boats and friends and noodle salad, just no one in this car.
-->'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with boats and friends and noodle salad, just no one in this car.
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-->'''Carol:''' We all have these terrible stories to get over, and you-
-->'''Melvin:'''you-\\
'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with boats and friends and noodle salad, just no one in this car.
-->'''Melvin:'''
'''Melvin:''' That's not true. Some of us have great stories, pretty stories, that take place at lakes, with boats and friends and noodle salad, just no one in this car.
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* BigDamnKiss: Carol to Melvin at the restaurant.
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* BigDamnKiss: TheBigDamnKiss:
** Carol to Melvin at therestaurant.restaurant.
** At the end, as they're walking around at 4 am, Melvin kisses Carol somewhat awkwardly. They break, he says "I know I can do better than that," and he lays TheBigDamnKiss on her.
--> '''Carol''': Better. ''Definitely'' better.
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** At the end, as they're walking around at 4 am, Melvin kisses Carol somewhat awkwardly. They break, he says "I know I can do better than that," and he lays TheBigDamnKiss on her.
--> '''Carol''': Better. ''Definitely'' better.
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* TheDogBitesBack: Simon gets angry enough at Melvin's cruel remarks to take a swing at him. It misses, but it does get Melvin to approach the situation a little more tenderly.