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* ItsAllMyFault: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
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* WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Alex is on the road to recovery and as a new job, Isaac has recommitted himself to Kate and is helping Sarah start her restaurant, and Ben has gotten over his writer's block. However, Ben and Siri are taking time apart and she isn't pregnant, and Josh is still stuck with a worthless and very expensive degree.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Alex is on the road to recovery and as has a new job, Isaac has recommitted himself to Kate and is helping Sarah start her restaurant, and Ben has gotten over his writer's block. However, Ben and Siri are taking time apart and she isn't pregnant, and Josh is still stuck with a worthless and very expensive degree.]]
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* BlindDriving: It's really not a good idea to drive in the dark on backcountry rounds while blind with rage and slightly high. Ben finds this out the hard way.
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* RealityEnsues: It's really not a good idea to drive in the dark on backcountry rounds while blind with rage and slightly high. Ben finds this out the hard way.
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-->'''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's like a weird game they play.
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-->'''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's like a weird game they play.
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* NeverMyFault: This is Sarah's defining character trait.
** She blames Josh for "messing her up" because he refused to be her boyfriend, even though it was a consensual relationship between two people of equal age, and there was nothing stopping her from ending it.
** She blames Isaac for not making a move on her in college, even though she told him she only wanted to be friends, which wasn't true.
** She hates her job but doesn't make any effort to leave until the end of the film.
** She blames Josh for "messing her up" because he refused to be her boyfriend, even though it was a consensual relationship between two people of equal age, and there was nothing stopping her from ending it.
** She blames Isaac for not making a move on her in college, even though she told him she only wanted to be friends, which wasn't true.
** She hates her job but doesn't make any effort to leave until the end of the film.
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* Josh (Creator/MaxGreenfield), a bitter PhD candidate and Sarah's occasional lover.
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* Josh (Creator/MaxGreenfield), a bitter PhD [=PhD=] candidate and Sarah's occasional lover.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: A contributing factor to Alex's depression. All his closest friends have had career success (except for Josh, who is completing his PhD), while his acting career fell apart and he had to move into his parents' country house.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: A contributing factor to Alex's depression. All his closest friends have had career success (except for Josh, who is completing his PhD), [=PhD=]), while his acting career fell apart and he had to move into his parents' country house.
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* ADegreeInUseless: Implied to be one of the causes of Josh's {{Jerkass}} tendencies. He's the only one of the group still in school, trying to finish his PhD, and the recent recession has caused him to think he has very little shot at a secure future.
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* ADegreeInUseless: Implied to be one of the causes of Josh's {{Jerkass}} tendencies. He's the only one of the group still in school, trying to finish his PhD, [=PhD=], and the recent recession has caused him to think he has very little shot at a secure future.
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** Alex's "suicide note" (a tweet), reads "Ask of me tomorrow, and you shall find me a grave man." This is a line from RomeoAndJuliet.
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** Alex's "suicide note" (a tweet), reads "Ask of me tomorrow, and you shall find me a grave man." This is a line from RomeoAndJuliet.''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''.
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->''"Judgement has a way of creeping into every relationship, even the most intimate. If we're lucky, somewhere along the way we meet a few people who listen to us without criticism or reproach. We call those people our friends."''
-->-- '''Ben'''
-->-- '''Ben'''
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* AgeGapRomance: Subverted. The characters treat Kate and Isaac as if they have one. She is younger than him, but by at most eight years (the actors have a five year age difference).
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** Josh also feels this way about Ben.
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* MayDecemberRomance: Subverted. The characters treat Kate and Isaac as if they have one. She is younger than him, but by at most eight years (the actors have a five year age difference).
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* AlwaysSecondBest: A contributing factor to Alex's depression. All his closest friends have had career success (except for Josh, who is completing his PhD), while his acting career fell apart and he had to move into his parents' country house.
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* AlwaysSecondBest: AlwaysSomeoneBetter: A contributing factor to Alex's depression. All his closest friends have had career success (except for Josh, who is completing his PhD), while his acting career fell apart and he had to move into his parents' country house.house.
** Josh also feels this way about Ben.
** Josh also feels this way about Ben.
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!! This film provides examples of:
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* ADegreeInUseless: Implied to be one of the causes of Josh's {{Jerkass}} tendencies. He's the only one of the group still in school, trying to finish his PhD, and the recent recession has caused him to think he has very little shot at a secure future.
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--> '''Kate:''' I thought they hated each other.
--> '''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's like a weird game they play.
--> '''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's like a weird game they play.
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* ADegreeInUseless: Implied to be one of the causes of Josh's {{Jerkass}} tendencies. He's the only one of the group still in school, trying to finish his PhD, and the recent recession has caused him to think he has very little shot at a secure future.
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* InformedAttribute: Several:
** Ben's writing ability. Apparently he was the youngest writer published in the New Yorker ever, but has been suffering from writer's block for the past year. After he gets over it we hear precisely three sentences of his writing. It comes off as... less than profound.
** Sarah's cooking ability. Multiple characters comment on how delicious Sarah's food is, despite the fact that she only makes two dishes, and one of them is spaghetti. [[spoiler:By the end of the movie, she is ready to open her own restaurant with Isaac's help.]]
** Ben's writing ability. Apparently he was the youngest writer published in the New Yorker ever, but has been suffering from writer's block for the past year. After he gets over it we hear precisely three sentences of his writing. It comes off as... less than profound.
** Sarah's cooking ability. Multiple characters comment on how delicious Sarah's food is, despite the fact that she only makes two dishes, and one of them is spaghetti. [[spoiler:By the end of the movie, she is ready to open her own restaurant with Isaac's help.]]
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* Ben (Creator/NateParker) and Siri (Creator/MaggieGrace). A married couple who at forking career paths, as well as a possible pregnancy from Siri, and Ben dealing with a bout of writer's block.
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* Ben (Creator/NateParker) and Siri (Creator/MaggieGrace). A married couple who are at forking career paths, as well as a possible pregnancy from Siri, and Ben dealing with a bout of writer's block.
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* Isaac (Creator/MaxMinghella), a successful businessman, and his new girlfriend Kate (Creator/JaneLevy), who is a few years younger than the rest and not met any of them previously.
* The titular Alex (Creator/JasonRitter) a depressed actor who's career fizzled out in Los Angeles, forcing him to move back to his parents house in the countryside. In the opening moments of the film, he attempts suicide by cutting his wrists.
* The titular Alex (Creator/JasonRitter) a depressed actor who's career fizzled out in Los Angeles, forcing him to move back to his parents house in the countryside. In the opening moments of the film, he attempts suicide by cutting his wrists.
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* Isaac (Creator/MaxMinghella), a successful businessman, and his new girlfriend Kate (Creator/JaneLevy), who is a few years younger than the rest and has not met any of them previously.
* The titular Alex (Creator/JasonRitter) a depressed actorwho's whose career fizzled out in Los Angeles, forcing him to move back to his parents parents' house in the countryside. In the opening moments of the film, he attempts suicide by cutting his wrists.
* The titular Alex (Creator/JasonRitter) a depressed actor
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* ADegreeInUseless: Implied to be one of the causes of Josh's {{Jerkass}} tendencies. He's the only one of the group still in school, trying to finish his PhD, and the recent recession has caused him to think he has very little shot a secure future.
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* ADegreeInUseless: Implied to be one of the causes of Josh's {{Jerkass}} tendencies. He's the only one of the group still in school, trying to finish his PhD, and the recent recession has caused him to think he has very little shot at a secure future.
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--> '''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's a weird game they play.
--> '''Kate:''' (laughs) Your friends are fucked up!
--> '''Kate:''' (laughs) Your friends are fucked up!
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--> '''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's like a weird game they play.
--> '''Kate:''' (laughs) Your friends are fucked up!play.
--> '''Kate:''' (laughs) Your friends are fucked up!
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* ItsAllAboutMe: several of the characters struggle with this throughout the film.
** Alex is called out on the fact that he didn't consider how his death would destroy the lives of his friends from grief and guilt, instead being accused of selfish.
** Ben constantly stresses about his stalled writing career and how he is a failure at it, to the point of pushing Siri away and ignoring Alex's messages, despite the fact that he is clearly suicidal.
** Alex is called out on the fact that he didn't consider how his death would destroy the lives of his friends from grief and guilt, instead being accused of selfish.
** Ben constantly stresses about his stalled writing career and how he is a failure at it, to the point of pushing Siri away and ignoring Alex's messages, despite the fact that he is clearly suicidal.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: several Several of the characters struggle with this throughout the film.
** Alex is called out on the fact that he didn't consider how his death would destroy the lives of his friends from grief andguilt, instead being accused of selfish.
guilt.
** Ben constantly stresses about his stalled writing career and how he is a failure at it, to the point of pushing Siri away and ignoring Alex's messages, despite the fact thathe Alex is clearly suicidal.
** Alex is called out on the fact that he didn't consider how his death would destroy the lives of his friends from grief and
** Ben constantly stresses about his stalled writing career and how he is a failure at it, to the point of pushing Siri away and ignoring Alex's messages, despite the fact that
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* ShoutOut: Several to Film/TheBigChill:
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* ShoutOut: Several to Film/TheBigChill:''Film/TheBigChill'':
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* Isacc (Creator/MaxMinghella), a successful businessman, and his new girlfriend Kate (Creator/JaneLevy), who is a few years younger than the rest and not met any of them previously.
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* Isacc Isaac (Creator/MaxMinghella), a successful businessman, and his new girlfriend Kate (Creator/JaneLevy), who is a few years younger than the rest and not met any of them previously.
* BelligerentSexualTension: Sarah and Josh.
--> '''Kate:''' I thought they hated each other.
--> '''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's a weird game they play.
--> '''Kate:''' (laughs) Your friends are fucked up!
--> '''Kate:''' I thought they hated each other.
--> '''Isaac:''' They do and they don't. It's a weird game they play.
--> '''Kate:''' (laughs) Your friends are fucked up!
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Alex is on the road to recovery and as a new job, Isacc has recommitted himself to Kate and is helping Sarah start her restaurant, and Ben has gotten over his writer's block. However, Ben and Siri are taking time apart and she isn't pregnant, and Josh is still stuck with a worthless and very expensive degree.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Alex is on the road to recovery and as a new job, Isacc Isaac has recommitted himself to Kate and is helping Sarah start her restaurant, and Ben has gotten over his writer's block. However, Ben and Siri are taking time apart and she isn't pregnant, and Josh is still stuck with a worthless and very expensive degree.]]
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* CommitmentIssues: Josh and Isacc have them. Isacc gets over it.
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* CommitmentIssues: Josh and Isacc Isaac have them. Isacc Isaac gets over it.
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* InterruptedIntimacy: [[spoiler: Ben walks in on Siri and Alex kissing, while the latter is scantily clad. He goes into tranquil fury mode and storms off.]]
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* TheImmodestOrgasm: Sarah's first tryst with Josh is clearly audible to everyone in the house.
* InterruptedIntimacy: [[spoiler: Ben walks in on Siri and Alex kissing, while the latter is scantily clad. He goes intotranquil fury TranquilFury mode and storms off.]]
* InterruptedIntimacy: [[spoiler: Ben walks in on Siri and Alex kissing, while the latter is scantily clad. He goes into
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** [[spoiler: Sarah lets Isacc go so that he can have a functional and loving relationship with Kate.]]
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** [[spoiler: Sarah lets Isacc Isaac go so that he can have a functional and loving relationship with Kate.]]
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* LoveEpiphany: Isacc realizes he really does love Kate when Sarah gently rejects his clumsy attempts to seduce her.
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* LoveEpiphany: Isacc [[spoiler:Isaac realizes he really does love Kate when Sarah gently rejects his clumsy attempts to seduce her.]]
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* ObliviousToLove: Isacc was Sarah's closest friend in college. He claims to have had no inkling that she was carrying a torch for him for all those years.
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* ObliviousToLove: Isacc Isaac was Sarah's closest friend in college. He claims to have had no inkling that she was carrying a torch for him for all those years.
* TheOneThatGotAway: An intoxicated Sarah reveals to Isaac that she was in love with him in college.
* TheOneThatGotAway: An intoxicated Sarah reveals to Isaac that she was in love with him in college.
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* ShoutOut: Several to Film/TheBigChill
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* ShoutOut: Several to Film/TheBigChillFilm/TheBigChill:
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* TheImmodestOrgasm: Sarah's first tryst with Josh is clearly audible to everyone in the house.
* TheOneThatGotAway: An intoxicated Sarah reveals to Isacc that she was in love with him in college.
* TheOneThatGotAway: An intoxicated Sarah reveals to Isacc that she was in love with him in college.
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* WholePlotReference: It's a SettingUpdate to ''Film/TheBigChill'', only with Alex surviving his suicide at the beginning.
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* WholePlotReference: It's a SettingUpdate to ''Film/TheBigChill'', only with Alex surviving his suicide attempt at the beginning.
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* Ben (Creator/NateParker) and Siri (Creator/MaggieGrace). A married couple who are forking career paths, as well as a possible pregnancy from Siri, and Ben dealing with a bout of writer's block.
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* Ben (Creator/NateParker) and Siri (Creator/MaggieGrace). A married couple who are at forking career paths, as well as a possible pregnancy from Siri, and Ben dealing with a bout of writer's block.
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* NightmareFuel: InUniverse, the downstairs bathroom is treated as this by most of the characters, as it's where Alex cut his wrists in the opening, and still has several prominent bloodstains. Part of Alex's CharacterDevelopment is taking responsibility for his actions and finally cleaning it.
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* ThirdWheel: Alex doesn't start out as this, but becomes it once Josh and Sarah hookup.
WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
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* ThirdWheel: Alex doesn't start out as this, but becomes it once Josh and Sarah hookup.
hookup. Later averted when Sarah rejects Josh.
* WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
* WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
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* OddManOut: Alex doesn't start out as this, but becomes it once Josh and Sarah hookup.
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** Sarah names the stray dog they adopt Creator/JeffGoldblum, one of the stars of the original film.
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** Sarah names suggests naming the stray dog they adopt Creator/JeffGoldblum, one of the stars of the original film.film.
** During the group dinner, Sarah mentions that the whole thing feels like an '80s movie.
** During the group dinner, Sarah mentions that the whole thing feels like an '80s movie.
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* WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
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* ThirdWheel: Alex doesn't start out as this, but becomes it once Josh and Sarah hookup.
WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.
WhatAnIdiot: In universe. Ben spends most of the movie berating himself for not seeing the signs that Alex was suicidal.