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''[[http://warriorsredux.tumblr.com Warriors Redux]]'' is a DeconstructionFic[=/=]FixFic dedicated to the revision of the ''Literature/{{Warrior|Cats}}s'' series. The first book is [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/967455 also viewable]] on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
''Warriors Redux'' attempts to revise the first arc of the series as being more believable, while also greatly expanding on and editing the lore to be more believable. Although Firepaw's path remains largely the same as the first arc, the steps he takes to get there wildly vary.
The story has currently adapted the first two books: ''Into the Wild'' and ''Forest of Secrets''. ''Rising Storm'' is a work-in-progress.
''Warriors Redux'' attempts to revise the first arc of the series as being more believable, while also greatly expanding on and editing the lore to be more believable. Although Firepaw's path remains largely the same as the first arc, the steps he takes to get there wildly vary.
The story has currently adapted the first two books: ''Into the Wild'' and ''Forest of Secrets''. ''Rising Storm'' is a work-in-progress.
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''[[http://warriorsredux.tumblr.com Warriors Redux]]'' is a now-abandoned DeconstructionFic[=/=]FixFic by Dullard dedicated to the revision of the ''Literature/{{Warrior|Cats}}s'' series. The first book is [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/967455 also viewable]] on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
''Warriors Redux''attempts attempted to revise the series' first arc of the series as being more believable, while also greatly arc, expanding on and editing the lore to be more believable. Although Firepaw's path remains largely the same as the first arc, the steps he takes to get there wildly vary.
vary wildly.
The storyhas currently adapted the first two books: entirety ''Into the Wild'' and Wild'', ''Forest of Secrets''. Secrets'' and ''Rising Storm'' Storm''. A summary of the fourth arc was completed before the fanfic was dropped entirely.
A reboot of the series by the same author, ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/series/2509921 Iterum: Children of the Quartz Heart]]'', began in 2021 and isa work-in-progress.
still ongoing as of October 2023.
''Warriors Redux''
The story
A reboot of the series by the same author, ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/series/2509921 Iterum: Children of the Quartz Heart]]'', began in 2021 and is
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* AllGenesAreCoDominant: This has been treated with the contempt it deserves, and all genetically-impossible appearances have been changed.
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* AllGenesAreCoDominant: This has been treated with the contempt it deserves, contempt, and all genetically-impossible appearances have been changed.
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* AmbitionIsEvil: Treated with the contempt it deserves.
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* AmbitionIsEvil: Treated with the contempt it deserves.contempt.
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* AwesomeMcCoolName:
** Some of the changed names fit this category.
** The names of Rokhoa, Horoa, and Surii also fall into this category.
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: Even worse for seers than in the original.
** Some of the changed names fit this category.
** The names of Rokhoa, Horoa, and Surii also fall into this category.
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** Some of the changed names fit this category.
** The names of Rokhoa, Horoa, and Surii also fall into this category.
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* BigDamnHeroes: Seems to be both downplayed and subverted with Firepaw.
* BigEater: Unfortunately, still the case with Graypaw.
* BodyHorror: Yrrun.
* BigEater: Unfortunately, still the case with Graypaw.
* BodyHorror: Yrrun.
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: Still largely the case with the kits.
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* CoolCat: Just about everyone.
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* AdultFear: Much more so than the original series.
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* BelatedBackstory: Thankfully seems to be averted.
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** Spottedleaf is more "out there" than her level-headed canon portrayal, keeping with the odd nature of {{seer}}s.
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** Spottedleaf is more "out there" than her level-headed canon portrayal, keeping with the odd nature of {{seer}}s.{{seers}}.
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* OverlySpecificAfterlife: The four Clans believe that good Clan cats enter a HiveMind afterlife upon death, while bad Clan cats [[CessationOfExistence stop existing]]. When the [[APetIntoTheWild kittypet-born]] Firepaw asks the {{seer}} Spottedleaf if non-Clan cats can enter [=StarClan=], she treats it as a stupid question--of ''course'' they don't. [=StarClan=] is Clan heaven, not cat heaven, so only Clan cats are allowed.
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* OverlySpecificAfterlife: The four Clans believe that good Clan cats enter a HiveMind afterlife upon death, while bad Clan cats [[CessationOfExistence stop existing]]. When the [[APetIntoTheWild kittypet-born]] Firepaw asks the {{seer}} {{seer|s}} Spottedleaf if non-Clan cats can enter [=StarClan=], she treats it as a stupid question--of ''course'' they don't. [=StarClan=] is Clan heaven, not cat heaven, so only Clan cats are allowed.
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* {{Adorkable}}: Ravenpaw.
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* MatureAnimalStory: The story is a more serious and mature-aimed version of ''Warriors'', being closer to works like ''Tailchaser's Song'' than the original.
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* CheerfulFuneral: [=RiverClan=] cats grieve the week after a cat dies. The first week is spent rejoicing over their life.
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* OverlySpecificAfterlife: The four Clans believe that good Clan cats enter a HiveMind afterlife upon death, while bad Clan cats [[CessationOfExistence stop existing]]. When the [[APetIntoTheWild kittypet-born]] Firepaw asks the {{seer}} Spottedleaf if non-Clan cats can enter [=StarClan=], she treats it as a stupid question--of ''course'' they don't. [=StarClan=] is Clan heaven, not cat heaven, so only Clan cats are allowed.
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* EvilAlbino:
** All-white cats in the myths tend to be evil, though this is averted with the actual white characters.
** When he appears, though, Scourge is planned to be an albino now (actually, as opposed to just a white cat) rather than the stereotypically "evil-looking" black cat with ice-blue eyes.
** All-white cats in the myths tend to be evil, though this is averted with the actual white characters.
** When he appears, though, Scourge is planned to be an albino now (actually, as opposed to just a white cat) rather than the stereotypically "evil-looking" black cat with ice-blue eyes.
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* AdaptationDyeJob: Many cat's descriptions have been changed to be more in-line with genetics.
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* AdaptationDyeJob: Many cat's cats' descriptions have been changed to be more in-line with genetics.
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: [[AvertedTrope Averted so hard]]. The punishment system for the Redux has been explained in massive detail, and we get to see demonstrations of it happen, regardless of anyone's intentions. But the most notable aversion is for Tigerclaw; in canon, after his crimes came to light, Tigerclaw was exiled from [=ThunderClan=], and later became [=ShadowClan=]'s leader. Here, he is given the worst of punishments, which is execution and ''having his name erased from the Clans' memory'', which essentially denies him entrance into [=StarClan=], and is supposed to lead to CessationOfExistence once he has been completely forgotten from the Clans' memory.]]
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: [[AvertedTrope Averted so hard]].Averted]]. The punishment system for the Redux has been explained in massive detail, and we get to see demonstrations of it happen, regardless of anyone's intentions. But the most notable aversion is for Tigerclaw; in canon, after his crimes came to light, Tigerclaw was exiled from [=ThunderClan=], and later became [=ShadowClan=]'s leader. Here, he is given the worst of punishments, which is execution and ''having his name erased from the Clans' memory'', which essentially denies him entrance into [=StarClan=], and is supposed to lead to CessationOfExistence once he has been completely forgotten from the Clans' memory.]]
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%%* BestialityIsDepraved: PlayedForLaughs when the creator of the series tagged a post with "sometimes you just gotta love frogs" when answering a question related to cat sexualities, thus prompting the fanbase to ship her with frogs, to the point where she was nicknamed "frogfucker". There's also fanart if anyone's interested, but none of it is NSFW.
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* CatStereotype: The author has made statements on a few of these:
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* NoFathersAllowed: Fathers are optional. Queens raise their kits together and don't need to disclose their kits fathers. It's an OpenSecret that [=ThunderClan=] cats often breed with pets in order to avoid RoyalInbreeding.
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The story has currently adapted the first twp books: ''Into the Wild'' and ''Forest of Secrets''. ''Rising Storm'' is a work-in-progress.
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''[[http://warriorsredux.tumblr.com Warriors Redux]]'' is a DeconstructionFic[=/=]FixFic dedicated to the revision of the ''Literature/{{Warrior|Cats}}s'' series. The fic is [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/967455 also viewable]] on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
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''[[http://warriorsredux.tumblr.com Warriors Redux]]'' is a DeconstructionFic[=/=]FixFic dedicated to the revision of the ''Literature/{{Warrior|Cats}}s'' series. The fic first book is [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/967455 also viewable]] on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
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''[[http://warriorsredux.tumblr.com Warriors Redux]]'' is a DeconstructionFic[=/=]FixFic dedicated to the revision of the ''Literature/{{Warrior|Cats}}s'' series.
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''[[http://warriorsredux.tumblr.com Warriors Redux]]'' is a DeconstructionFic[=/=]FixFic dedicated to the revision of the ''Literature/{{Warrior|Cats}}s'' series. \n The fic is [[https://archiveofourown.org/series/967455 also viewable]] on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
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** Some of the more IdiotPlot aspects of the book are removed, like Tigerclaw convincing everyone of the clearly harmless Ravenpaw's treachery and [=ShadowClan=] not being suspicious of Tigerclaw when he tries to become their leader.
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** Some of the more IdiotPlot contrived aspects of the book are removed, like Tigerclaw convincing everyone of the clearly harmless Ravenpaw's treachery and [=ShadowClan=] not being suspicious of Tigerclaw when he tries to become their leader.
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** Seems to be the case with [=SkyClan=], as it's been outright stated by WordOfGod that the [=SkyClan=] arc was just an excuse to milk the "Hero Firestar" thing.
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** Seems to be the case with [=SkyClan=], as it's been outright stated by WordOfGod that the author believes the [=SkyClan=] arc was just an excuse to milk the "Hero Firestar" thing.
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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: Still the case, although WordOfGod has confirmed that the first book is set around the early 2010s, and the Clans have been around for about 100 years prior.
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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: Still the case, although WordOfGod the author has confirmed that the first book is set around the early 2010s, and the Clans have been around for about 100 years prior.
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** Arc 4: (''The Darkest Hour''): [[WordOfGod Scourge]]
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** Arc 4: (''The Darkest Hour''): [[WordOfGod Scourge]]Scourge
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* CareerEndingInjury: WordOfGod says this will not be the case except in situations on the verge of BodyHorror, considering how adaptable and versatile cats are.
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* CareerEndingInjury: WordOfGod says this This will not be the case except in situations on the verge of BodyHorror, considering how adaptable and versatile cats are.
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* CatStereotype: WordOfGod has made statements on a few of these:
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* CrisisOfFaith: WordOfGod says that this kind of thing won't be taken very well among the clans, which makes one wonder if and how Bluestar's loss-of-faith arc would be handled in future.
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* CrisisOfFaith: WordOfGod The author says that this kind of thing won't be taken very well among the clans, which makes one wonder if and how Bluestar's loss-of-faith arc would be handled in future.
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* NoHuggingNoKissing: The author removes almost all romance from the redux, due both to being aromantic and not feeling comfortable with or interested in writing romance and feeling that the romance in the original was usually shallow and veered into RomanticPlotTumor. There is quite a broken base over whether this was a good thing.
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* NoHuggingNoKissing: The author removes almost all romance from the redux, due both to being aromantic and not feeling comfortable with or interested in writing romance and feeling that the romance in the original was usually shallow and veered into RomanticPlotTumor.derailed the main story. There is quite a broken base over whether this was a good thing.
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* UnsuccessfulPetAdoption: Rusty reasons with himself that his new owner isn't that attached to him yet, so they'll get over him quickly and adopt a {{replacement|Goldfish}} cat.
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** Spottedleaf is more "out there" than her level-headed canon portrayal, keeping with the odd nature of {{seer}}s.
* {{Matriarchy}}: Downplayed, as it's not that emphasised. Due to how actual cat colonies work (with males being mainly around for breeding and fending off enemies), the four Clans lean towards being matriarchal.
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* NoHuggingNoKissing: The author removes almost all romance from the redux, due both to being aromantic and not feeling comfortable with or interested in writing romance and feeling that the romance in the original was usually shallow and veered into RomanticPlotTumor. There is quite a BrokenBase over whether this was a good thing.
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* NoHuggingNoKissing: The author removes almost all romance from the redux, due both to being aromantic and not feeling comfortable with or interested in writing romance and feeling that the romance in the original was usually shallow and veered into RomanticPlotTumor. There is quite a BrokenBase broken base over whether this was a good thing.
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* NearlyNormalAnimal: The cats are barely anthropomorphized at all anymore. The author has clearly ShownTheirWork during the {{deconstruction|fic}} phase.
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* NotHisSled: [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]] really [[spoiler:are dead]] this time. [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] never becomes [[spoiler:leader of [=ShadowClan=]]] - in fact, he [[spoiler: is killed in Forest of Secrets]]
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* NotHisSled: NotHisSled:
** [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]] really [[spoiler:are dead]] thistime. time.
** [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] never becomes [[spoiler:leader of [=ShadowClan=]]] - in fact, he [[spoiler: is killed inForest ''Forest of Secrets]]Secrets'']]
* PartiallyCivilizedAnimal: The cats are much less anthropomorphic than in canon, but they still have some partially civilized traits like a complex AnimalReligion. The author has clearly ShownTheirWork during the {{deconstruction|fic}} phase.
** [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]] really [[spoiler:are dead]] this
** [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] never becomes [[spoiler:leader of [=ShadowClan=]]] - in fact, he [[spoiler: is killed in
* PartiallyCivilizedAnimal: The cats are much less anthropomorphic than in canon, but they still have some partially civilized traits like a complex AnimalReligion. The author has clearly ShownTheirWork during the {{deconstruction|fic}} phase.
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* AdaptedOut: Seems to be the case with [=SkyClan=], as it's been outright stated by WordOfGod that the [=SkyClan=] arc was just an excuse to milk the "Hero Firestar" thing.
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* AdaptedOut: AdaptedOut:
** Seems to be the case with [=SkyClan=], as it's been outright stated by WordOfGod that the [=SkyClan=] arc was just an excuse to milk the "Hero Firestar"thing.thing.
** The Dark Forest doesn't exist as the story keeps it ambiguous whether afterlives are real or not. Instead, it's believed that bad warriors just simply stop existing, period.
** Seems to be the case with [=SkyClan=], as it's been outright stated by WordOfGod that the [=SkyClan=] arc was just an excuse to milk the "Hero Firestar"
** The Dark Forest doesn't exist as the story keeps it ambiguous whether afterlives are real or not. Instead, it's believed that bad warriors just simply stop existing, period.
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%%* BestialityIsDepraved: PlayedForLaughs when the creator of the series tagged a post with "sometimes you just gotta love frogs" when answering a question related to cat sexualities, thus prompting the fanbase to ship her with frogs, to the point where she was nicknamed "frogfucker". There's also fanart if anyone's interested, but none of it is NSFW.
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* DrinkingGame: Take a sip every time:
** The author swears during a deconstruction.
** Whenever they change something from the original.
** Whenever they added some new element to the redux version.
** Drink every time a post is tagged with "hole frog".
** Whenever they change the name of a character from canon they've already changed the name of.
** Whenever Fireheart and friends get punished for something.
** The author swears during a deconstruction.
** Whenever they change something from the original.
** Whenever they added some new element to the redux version.
** Drink every time a post is tagged with "hole frog".
** Whenever they change the name of a character from canon they've already changed the name of.
** Whenever Fireheart and friends get punished for something.
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* MadeItLookLikeAnAccident: This is typically how the series' villains kill cats, due to cats not being able to easily kill each other directly without getting obviously injured themselves, and the difficulty of hiding a murder from the whole Clan.
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* MadeItLookLikeAnAccident: MakeItLookLikeAnAccident: This is typically how the series' villains kill cats, due to cats not being able to easily kill each other directly without getting obviously injured themselves, and the difficulty of hiding a murder from the whole Clan.
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* NearlyNormalAnimal: The cats are barely anthropomorphized at all anymore. The author has clearly ShownTheirWork during the [[Main/{{DeconstructionFic}} deconstruction]] phase.
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* NearlyNormalAnimal: The cats are barely anthropomorphized at all anymore. The author has clearly ShownTheirWork during the [[Main/{{DeconstructionFic}} deconstruction]] phase.{{deconstruction|fic}} phase.
* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Fireheart and his friends end up with punishments several times for doing kind things outside the code, like taking in Murkpelt and the [=ShadowClan=] elders and helping to feed [=RiverClan=].
* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Fireheart and his friends end up with punishments several times for doing kind things outside the code, like taking in Murkpelt and the [=ShadowClan=] elders and helping to feed [=RiverClan=].
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* NotHisSled: [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]] really [[spoiler:are dead]] this time. [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] never becomes [[spoiler:leader of [=ShadowClan=]]] - in fact, he [[spoiler: is killed in Forest of Secrets.
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* NotHisSled: [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]] really [[spoiler:are dead]] this time. [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] never becomes [[spoiler:leader of [=ShadowClan=]]] - in fact, he [[spoiler: is killed in Forest of Secrets. Secrets]]
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* PunishedForCompassion: Fireheart and his friends end up with punishments several times for doing kind things outside the code, like taking in Murkpelt and the [=ShadowClan=] elders and helping to feed [=RiverClan=].
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Warriors Redux (http://warriorsredux.tumblr.com) is a DeconstructionFic/FixFic dedicated to the revision of the [[Literature/{{Warriors}} Warriors]] series. It attempts to revise the first arc of the series as being more believable while greatly expanding on and editing the lore to also be more believable. Although Firepaw's path remains largely the same as the first arc, the steps he takes to get there wildly vary.
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''Warriors Redux'' attempts to revise the first arc of the series as being more
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* ActionGirl: As in canon, almost every female cat is just as competent as their male counterparts.
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* ActionGirl: ActionGirl:
** As in canon, almost every female cat is just as competent as their male counterparts.
** As in canon, almost every female cat is just as competent as their male counterparts.
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Many cat's descriptions have been changed to be more in-line with genetics.
** Played relatively straight with Buzzardface (the replacement for Barkface), as in the allegiances he's outright stated to be handsome (due to the "face" suffix representing beauty).
* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: Several cats from outside [=ThunderClan=] are met at the Gathering, some even books before their original introduction.
** Played relatively straight with Buzzardface (the replacement for Barkface), as in the allegiances he's outright stated to be handsome (due to the "face" suffix representing beauty).
* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: Several cats from outside [=ThunderClan=] are met at the Gathering, some even books before their original introduction.
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Many cat's descriptions have been changed to be more in-line with genetics.
**AdaptationalAttractiveness: Played relatively straight with Buzzardface (the replacement for Barkface), as in the allegiances he's outright stated to be handsome (due to the "face" suffix representing beauty).
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* AdaptationalIntelligence: Raventhroat figures out Tigerclaw's plans by deduction rather than by witnessing his murder of Redtail. [=ThunderClan=] in general acts much smarter around Tigerclaw, with Bluestar not immediately dismissing the allegations on him but still being cautious about blaming a loyal warrior based on circumstantial evidence (and she looks especially smarter without there being any witnesses of Tigerclaw's crimes).
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* AdaptationalIntelligence: AdaptationalIntelligence:
** Raventhroat figures out Tigerclaw's plans by deduction rather than by witnessing his murder of Redtail. [=ThunderClan=] in general acts much smarter around Tigerclaw, with Bluestar not immediately dismissing the allegations on him but still being cautious about blaming a loyal warrior based on circumstantial evidence (and she looks especially smarter without there being any witnesses of Tigerclaw's crimes).
** Raventhroat figures out Tigerclaw's plans by deduction rather than by witnessing his murder of Redtail. [=ThunderClan=] in general acts much smarter around Tigerclaw, with Bluestar not immediately dismissing the allegations on him but still being cautious about blaming a loyal warrior based on circumstantial evidence (and she looks especially smarter without there being any witnesses of Tigerclaw's crimes).
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* AdaptationDyeJob: Many cat's descriptions have been changed to be more in-line with genetics.
* AdaptationNameChange: Numerous characters are given new names for various reasons, such as if their name doesn't sound "feline enough":
* AdaptationNameChange: Numerous characters are given new names for various reasons, such as if their name doesn't sound "feline enough":
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* AdaptationDyeJob: Justified in every instance, as every coat color change is done for the sake of genetic plausibility.
* AdaptationPersonalityChange: Justified with Greypaw, as he was formerly just played for comic relief and dramatic subplots, whereas now he's a much more well-rounded and fleshed-out character.
* AdaptationPersonalityChange: Justified with Greypaw, as he was formerly just played for comic relief and dramatic subplots, whereas now he's a much more well-rounded and fleshed-out character.
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* AdaptationDyeJob: Justified in every instance, as every coat color change is done for the sake of genetic plausibility.
* AdaptationPersonalityChange:AdaptationPersonalityChange:
** Justified with Greypaw, as he was formerly just played for comic relief and dramatic subplots, whereas now he's a much more well-rounded and fleshed-out character.
* AdaptationPersonalityChange:
** Justified with Greypaw, as he was formerly just played for comic relief and dramatic subplots, whereas now he's a much more well-rounded and fleshed-out character.
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* [[Main/{{Adorkable}} Adorkable]]: Ravenpaw.
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* AesopAmnesia: Shouldn't be as big of a deal as it was in the original, since the Clans are so culturally separate now that any attempts at unification would be treated like wanting to unify, say, Switzerland, Canada, Argentina, and Japan: It's just not going to happen.
** It should be noted that this was a problem in the original because, for the first arc, it was constantly mentioned by Clanners that the reason Clans shouldn't get together was because they were separate... despite the fact that all of the Clan's individual cultures were exactly the same and that many of the background characters themselves were basically interchangeable personality-wise.
** It should be noted that this was a problem in the original because, for the first arc, it was constantly mentioned by Clanners that the reason Clans shouldn't get together was because they were separate... despite the fact that all of the Clan's individual cultures were exactly the same and that many of the background characters themselves were basically interchangeable personality-wise.
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* AesopAmnesia: Shouldn't be as big of a deal as it was in the original, since the Clans are so culturally separate now that any attempts at unification would be treated like wanting to unify, say, Switzerland, Canada, Argentina, and Japan: It's just not going to happen.
**happen. It should be noted that this was a problem in the original because, for the first arc, it was constantly mentioned by Clanners that the reason Clans shouldn't get together was because they were separate... despite the fact that all of the Clan's individual cultures were exactly the same and that many of the background characters themselves were basically interchangeable personality-wise.
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* AscendedExtra: Where Spottedleaf had not had much action before her [[spoiler:death]] in the original, she is given more prominence and an expanded role in the Redux.
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* AscendedExtra: AscendedExtra:
** Where Spottedleaf had not had much action before her [[spoiler:death]] in the original, she is given more prominence and an expanded role in the Redux.
** Where Spottedleaf had not had much action before her [[spoiler:death]] in the original, she is given more prominence and an expanded role in the Redux.
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* AwesomeMcCoolName: Some of the changed names fit this category.
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* AwesomeMcCoolName: AwesomeMcCoolName:
** Some of the changed names fit this category.
** Some of the changed names fit this category.
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* CallBack: There is a CallBack to the original book when Greypaw jokingly suggests renaming Murkpelt as Yellowfang.
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* CallBack: CallBack:
** There is a CallBack to the original book when Greypaw jokingly suggests renaming Murkpelt as Yellowfang.
** There is a CallBack to the original book when Greypaw jokingly suggests renaming Murkpelt as Yellowfang.
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* CatStereotype: WordOfGod has made statements on a few of these.
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* CatStereotype: WordOfGod has made statements on a few of these.these:
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Renaming cats based on injuries would probably seem cruel to a human, though for the cats it is a compliment that represents how tough you must have been to survive such an injury.
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance:
** Renaming cats based on injuries would probably seem cruel to a human, though for the cats it is a compliment that represents how tough you must have been to survive such an injury.
** Renaming cats based on injuries would probably seem cruel to a human, though for the cats it is a compliment that represents how tough you must have been to survive such an injury.
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* DrinkingGame: Take a sip every time the author swears during a deconstruction.
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* DrinkingGame: Take a sip every time the time:
** The author swears during a deconstruction.
** The author swears during a deconstruction.
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* EvilAlbino: All-white cats in the myths tend to be evil, though this is averted with the actual white characters. When he appears, though, Scourge is planned to be an albino now (actually, as opposed to just a white cat) rather than the stereotypically "evil-looking" black cat with ice-blue eyes.
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* EvilAlbino: EvilAlbino:
** All-white cats in the myths tend to be evil, though this is averted with the actual whitecharacters. characters.
** When he appears, though, Scourge is planned to be an albino now (actually, as opposed to just a white cat) rather than the stereotypically "evil-looking" black cat with ice-blue eyes.
** All-white cats in the myths tend to be evil, though this is averted with the actual white
** When he appears, though, Scourge is planned to be an albino now (actually, as opposed to just a white cat) rather than the stereotypically "evil-looking" black cat with ice-blue eyes.
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* MeaningfulRename: The redux follows the traditional naming system, where every suffix given to warriors at their ceremony has a meaning related to the cats' skills, appearance or personality. Renames due to injuries also count.
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* MeaningfulRename: The redux follows the fan-made traditional naming system, where every suffix given to warriors at their ceremony has a meaning related to the cats' skills, appearance or personality. Renames due to injuries also count.
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Let's keep personal opinions out of here.
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* AdaptationNameChange: Justified in every instance, usually for more believable names or to break the incessant two-part naming format.
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* AdaptationNameChange: Justified in every instance, usually for more believable names or to break the incessant two-part naming format.
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*** Onewhisker's renaming becomes even more justified when it's considered that his original name was one of the most nonsensical of all, even by the Erins' standards.
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** Played relatively straight with Buzzardface (the replacement for Barkface), as in the allegiances he's outright stated to be handsome.
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** Played relatively straight with Buzzardface (the replacement for Barkface), as in the allegiances he's outright stated to be handsome.handsome (due to the "face" suffix representing beauty).
* AdaptationalIntelligence: Raventhroat figures out Tigerclaw's plans by deduction rather than by witnessing his murder of Redtail. [=ThunderClan=] in general acts much smarter around Tigerclaw, with Bluestar not immediately dismissing the allegations on him but still being cautious about blaming a loyal warrior based on circumstantial evidence (and she looks especially smarter without there being any witnesses of Tigerclaw's crimes).
** Some of the more IdiotPlot aspects of the book are removed, like Tigerclaw convincing everyone of the clearly harmless Ravenpaw's treachery and [=ShadowClan=] not being suspicious of Tigerclaw when he tries to become their leader.
** Some of the more IdiotPlot aspects of the book are removed, like Tigerclaw convincing everyone of the clearly harmless Ravenpaw's treachery and [=ShadowClan=] not being suspicious of Tigerclaw when he tries to become their leader.
* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:One-eye]] and [[spoiler:Sandstorm]] both don't survive the series like they did in the original. Also [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]], since they aren't [[spoiler:Mistfoot and Stonefur.]] [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] and [[spoiler:Brokenstar]] also die far earlier on.
* DeathByChildbirth: Silverstream's mother and grandmother died this way, leading Crookedstar to worry about his daughter. [[spoiler:Silverstream herself eventually dies in childbirth, just as she did in the original series.]]
* DeathByChildbirth: Silverstream's mother and grandmother died this way, leading Crookedstar to worry about his daughter. [[spoiler:Silverstream herself eventually dies in childbirth, just as she did in the original series.]]
* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Renaming cats based on injuries would probably seem cruel to a human, though for the cats it is a compliment that represents how tough you must have been to survive such an injury.
** The clan cats' treatment of gender has received backlash online, with the author arguing that it is a case of this - animals who identify sex based on scent would be unlikely to intuitively grasp the concept of a gender identity that differs from one's biological sex.
* {{Determinator}}: Thlainra notes that of "the Bright-Eyed Crow"'s heart beats as if he is battle even when he is dying, because he doesn't want to leave his Clan to be destroyed.
** The clan cats' treatment of gender has received backlash online, with the author arguing that it is a case of this - animals who identify sex based on scent would be unlikely to intuitively grasp the concept of a gender identity that differs from one's biological sex.
* {{Determinator}}: Thlainra notes that of "the Bright-Eyed Crow"'s heart beats as if he is battle even when he is dying, because he doesn't want to leave his Clan to be destroyed.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality
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* GreyAndGrayMoralityGreyAndGrayMorality: Already existed in some cases in the original series, but the toning down of [=ShadowClan's=] and [=RiverClan's=] more egregiously cruel actions and the focus on [=ThunderClan=] as a flawed clan rather than the perpetual 'good guys" makes it far grayer.
* EvilAlbino: All-white cats in the myths tend to be evil, though this is averted with the actual white characters. When he appears, though, Scourge is planned to be an albino now (actually, as opposed to just a white cat) rather than the stereotypically "evil-looking" black cat with ice-blue eyes.
* EvilIsBigger: Tigerclaw to Fireheart. Well, really, almost everyone in [=ThunderClan=] is bigger than Fireheart, though Tigerclaw is massive even by [=ThunderClan=] standards.
* EyeScream: One-eye loses her eye by getting it caught in some thorns and half-scratching it out with the thorns and her claws while trying to escape. The protagonist of "the Bright-Eyed Crow" gets his eyes taken out in order to turn him into a crow.
* FireForgedFriends: Fireheart and Dustpelt go from hating each other to becoming closer allies after they team up to oppose Tigerclaw.
* HeroicBSOD: Bluestar becomes much more withdrawn and laconic after the events of Forest of Secrets, as in canon, though it's toned down here and there is no full-on SanitySlippage.
* IdenticalStranger: [[spoiler:Mistfoot and Stonefur]] become this to [[spoiler:Bluestar]] now that they are [[spoiler:no longer her kits.]]
* IdiotHero: Fireheart is noted to be a bit less intelligent than the rest of his Clan due to his kitty pet background, and in general tends to do rather impulsive and stupid things (though with the best intentions).
* EvilAlbino: All-white cats in the myths tend to be evil, though this is averted with the actual white characters. When he appears, though, Scourge is planned to be an albino now (actually, as opposed to just a white cat) rather than the stereotypically "evil-looking" black cat with ice-blue eyes.
* EvilIsBigger: Tigerclaw to Fireheart. Well, really, almost everyone in [=ThunderClan=] is bigger than Fireheart, though Tigerclaw is massive even by [=ThunderClan=] standards.
* EyeScream: One-eye loses her eye by getting it caught in some thorns and half-scratching it out with the thorns and her claws while trying to escape. The protagonist of "the Bright-Eyed Crow" gets his eyes taken out in order to turn him into a crow.
* FireForgedFriends: Fireheart and Dustpelt go from hating each other to becoming closer allies after they team up to oppose Tigerclaw.
* HeroicBSOD: Bluestar becomes much more withdrawn and laconic after the events of Forest of Secrets, as in canon, though it's toned down here and there is no full-on SanitySlippage.
* IdenticalStranger: [[spoiler:Mistfoot and Stonefur]] become this to [[spoiler:Bluestar]] now that they are [[spoiler:no longer her kits.]]
* IdiotHero: Fireheart is noted to be a bit less intelligent than the rest of his Clan due to his kitty pet background, and in general tends to do rather impulsive and stupid things (though with the best intentions).
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Unlike in the original series, where [=StarClan=] was indisputably real, in the Reduxverse it's left up to the reader to decide, as evidence is given for both sides of the argument.
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* MadeItLookLikeAnAccident: This is typically how the series' villains kill cats, due to cats not being able to easily kill each other directly without getting obviously injured themselves, and the difficulty of hiding a murder from the whole Clan.
* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Unlike in the original series, where [=StarClan=] was indisputably real, in the Reduxverse it's left up to the reader to decide, as evidence is given for both sides of theargument. argument.
* MeaningfulRename: The redux follows the traditional naming system, where every suffix given to warriors at their ceremony has a meaning related to the cats' skills, appearance or personality. Renames due to injuries also count.
* {{Mythopoeia}}: There is an entire mythology for the Clans beyond just [=StarClan=], which is told in bits and pieces throughout the book and is given more detail in the "amendment" section.
* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Unlike in the original series, where [=StarClan=] was indisputably real, in the Reduxverse it's left up to the reader to decide, as evidence is given for both sides of the
* MeaningfulRename: The redux follows the traditional naming system, where every suffix given to warriors at their ceremony has a meaning related to the cats' skills, appearance or personality. Renames due to injuries also count.
* {{Mythopoeia}}: There is an entire mythology for the Clans beyond just [=StarClan=], which is told in bits and pieces throughout the book and is given more detail in the "amendment" section.
* NoHuggingNoKissing: The author removes almost all romance from the redux, due both to being aromantic and not feeling comfortable with or interested in writing romance and feeling that the romance in the original was usually shallow and veered into RomanticPlotTumor. There is quite a BrokenBase over whether this was a good thing.
* NotHisSled: [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]] really [[spoiler:are dead]] this time. [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] never becomes [[spoiler:leader of [=ShadowClan=]]] - in fact, he [[spoiler: is killed in Forest of Secrets.
* PowerTrio: Firehear, Graystripe and Ravenpaw, as in the original. [[spoiler:This time, Ravenpaw stays in the Clan.]]
* PrestigePeril: [=ShadowClan=] seers are very highly respected by the Clan, and their authority is given more weight than even the leaders'. But the stress of their job tends to make them age very quickly and die young.
* PunishedForCompassion: Fireheart and his friends end up with punishments several times for doing kind things outside the code, like taking in Murkpelt and the [=ShadowClan=] elders and helping to feed [=RiverClan=].
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: [=ThunderClan=] is stereotyped as more militaristic than the other Clans.
* RoyalBrat: Brokenstar tends to get everything he wants from [=ShadowClan=] due to being Raggedstar's son, and he eventually [[spoiler:starts murdering anyone who might get in the way of his authority.]]
* NotHisSled: [[spoiler:Bluestar's kits]] really [[spoiler:are dead]] this time. [[spoiler:Tigerclaw]] never becomes [[spoiler:leader of [=ShadowClan=]]] - in fact, he [[spoiler: is killed in Forest of Secrets.
* PowerTrio: Firehear, Graystripe and Ravenpaw, as in the original. [[spoiler:This time, Ravenpaw stays in the Clan.]]
* PrestigePeril: [=ShadowClan=] seers are very highly respected by the Clan, and their authority is given more weight than even the leaders'. But the stress of their job tends to make them age very quickly and die young.
* PunishedForCompassion: Fireheart and his friends end up with punishments several times for doing kind things outside the code, like taking in Murkpelt and the [=ShadowClan=] elders and helping to feed [=RiverClan=].
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: [=ThunderClan=] is stereotyped as more militaristic than the other Clans.
* RoyalBrat: Brokenstar tends to get everything he wants from [=ShadowClan=] due to being Raggedstar's son, and he eventually [[spoiler:starts murdering anyone who might get in the way of his authority.]]
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* UpToEleven: With the worldbuilding, my god. ''So much work'' has been put into amending the faults of the original, revising the history, giving Clans more interesting backgrounds and personalities.
* WorldBuilding: Taken UpToEleven.
* WorldBuilding: Taken UpToEleven.
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* UpToEleven: With SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler:Redtail]], [[spoiler:Lionpelt]] and especially [[spoiler:Oakclaw]] live far longer than in the worldbuilding, my god. ''So much work'' has original. [[spoiler:Snowpaw]] is currently alive past the point where he died in canon.
* TheStoic: [=WindClan=] and [=ThunderClan=] cats are stereotyped as this. Rookstar in particular is described as having beenput into amending the faults particularly calm and stoic, even as a kit.
* TheStoryteller: Raventhroat gets his name for his skill in telling stories, and tells many of theoriginal, revising stories that appear in the history, giving Clans more interesting backgrounds redux.
* TricksterArchetype: Mernatha/Petalfall is this in the Clans' myths.
* WhatBeautifulEyes: The protagonist in the bright-eyed crow story is known for his eyes, which are described as so bright andpersonalities.
full of determination that it's impossible to look at them for too long.
* WorldBuilding:Taken UpToEleven.There are whole pages devoted to world building, and a lot more focus in put into it compared to the original series.
* TheStoic: [=WindClan=] and [=ThunderClan=] cats are stereotyped as this. Rookstar in particular is described as having been
* TheStoryteller: Raventhroat gets his name for his skill in telling stories, and tells many of the
* TricksterArchetype: Mernatha/Petalfall is this in the Clans' myths.
* WhatBeautifulEyes: The protagonist in the bright-eyed crow story is known for his eyes, which are described as so bright and
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* GoodIsNotSoft: The Clans in general are shown to have serious punishments for wrongdoing, especially shown when Bluestar, after [[spoiler:Tigerclaw tries to take over the Clan as in canon]], decides to [[spoiler:have him executed rather than just exiling him.]]
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** Somehow with [[spoiler: Tigerclaw]]. While he still commits the actions he committed in Canon, his new motives make him a HeWhoFightsMonsters / KnightTemplar / WellIntentionedExtremist.
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* KnightTemplar / HeWhoFightsMonsters / WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler: [[BigBad Tigerclaw]] has become this in the Redux. Whereas in canon he was an ordinary evil and diabolical villain, the Redux makes it clear that he is someone who genuinely loves [=ThunderClan=], but he is willing to go to extreme lengths to protect it and lead it to what he thinks is greatness, rather than just wanting power.
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* KnightTemplar / HeWhoFightsMonsters / WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler: [[BigBad Tigerclaw]] has become this in the Redux. Whereas in canon he was an ordinary evil and diabolical villain, the Redux makes it clear that he is someone who genuinely loves [=ThunderClan=], but he is willing to go to extreme lengths to protect it and lead it to what he thinks is greatness, rather than just wanting power.]]