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* MemoryGambit: Marinette took advantage of the fact that she would lose huge swaths of her memory when she retired. Her NoteToSelf [[spoiler:reveals that she lied to herself that she was never almost akumatized]] which explains her behavior further.
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** Much like how ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'' critiques the concept of Adrien being 'perfect' and ProtagonistCenteredMorality, this work picks apart how Marinette is constantly held up to impossible standards, with every episode featuring her 'making a mistake'/getting blamed for whatever went wrong. After two years of dealing with this, she ultimately reached her limit.

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** Much like how ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies'' critiques the concept of Adrien being 'perfect' and ProtagonistCenteredMorality, this work picks apart how Marinette is constantly held up to impossible standards, with every episode featuring her 'making a mistake'/getting blamed for whatever went wrong. After two years of dealing with this, she ultimately reached her limit. [[spoiler:The final chapter reveals that her experiences have driven her insane and to associate helping others with suffering. She decided that her happiness was the only thing that mattered]].
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* TwoHalvesMakeAPlot: The titular two letters. The first one, which we read in small parts through the chapters, is addressed to Luka explaining why Marinette decided to quit. [[spoiler:The second letter, which we read in the last chapter, is Marinette's NoteToSelf[[note]]or more like "[[MotiveRant villainous gloating]]"[[/note]] written before she quit being a Guardian and endured LaserGuidedAmnesia. If we thought she was a bit [[LackOfEmpathy lacking in empathy]] about the new Ladybug situation before, [[TheEndingChangesEverything oooh, boy]], we hadn't seen [[PlayedForHorror nothing yet]]]].
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I might need to add italics later, but otherwise I’d say this fits!

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* DisproportionateRetribution: The final reveal of the fic basically redefines the term! [[spoiler: After the pressure of being Ladybug [[SanitySlippage finally made Marinette snap]], she came to believe that literally everyone in Paris had betrayed her- by [[AllTakeAndNoGive taking her for granted]], [[AccompliceByInaction failing to support her against her many enemies]], or even just by [[BlamingTheVictim being akumatized]]! Thus, she decided to get revenge on the whole city by giving her superpowers to [[EvilHero Lila]], while [[BatmanGambit knowing full well]] that her “replacement” would use them for a MonsterProtectionRacket! Meanwhile, Marinette would enjoy her “happy ending” by watching and laughing at [[FateWorseThanDeath the fates]] of those who she especially hated. If anything should go wrong with the plan- such as Luka, her [[LovingAShadow “one true love”]] falling out of love with her, Plan B is to use the Wish to [[ApocalypseWow wipe out the entire reality]] so she could get a Luka that [[EntitledToHaveYou she deserved]]!]]
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* WhoWatchesTheWatchmen: Inverted. [[spoiler:As part of her revenge scheme, Marinette made sure to remove all the other Miraculous holders from the playing board so Lila would remain unopposed, even outright destroying [[MakeRightWhatOnceWentWrong the Rabbit Miraculous]]]]. As for Marinette herself, [[spoiler:she is perfectly okay with it all once she discovers it]].

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* WhoWatchesTheWatchmen: Inverted. [[spoiler:As part of her revenge scheme, Marinette made sure to remove all the other heroic Miraculous holders from the playing board so Lila (and Felix as [[MonsterProtectionRacket her designated opponent]]) would remain unopposed, even outright destroying [[MakeRightWhatOnceWentWrong the Rabbit Miraculous]]]]. As for Marinette herself, [[spoiler:she is perfectly okay with it all once she discovers it]].
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* WhoWatchesTheWatchmen: Inverted. [[spoiler:As part of her revenge scheme, Marinette made sure to remove all the other Miraculous holders from the playing board so Lila would remain unopposed, even outright destroying [[MakeRightWhatOnceWentWrong the Rabbit Miraculous]]]]. As for Marinette herself, [[spoiler:she is perfectly okay with it all once she discovers it]].
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** She blamed Kagami for being Riposte, but didn't condemn her for becoming Lies and Oni-Chan. The exact reason why hasn't been said yet, but based on comments in her letter complaining of Chat Noir emotionally manipulating her in some way; she may feel sympathy for Kagami becoming angry over Adrien and Lila manipulating her emotions.

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** She blamed Kagami for being Riposte, but didn't condemn her for becoming Lies and Oni-Chan. The exact reason why hasn't been said yet, was never said, but based on comments in her first letter complaining of Chat Noir emotionally manipulating her in some way; she may feel sympathy for Kagami becoming angry over Adrien and Lila manipulating her emotions.
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* AsTheGoodBookSays: When Luka sees the Agreste estate, he finds himself quoting Matthew 23:27 (which talks about how 'whitewashed tombs' look beautiful but contain only death and rot).
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** TheReveal of the final chapter, the titular second letter, turns the Fic [[spoiler:into a Saltinette story played [[PlayedForHorror for horror]]]].

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** TheReveal of the final chapter, the titular second letter, turns the Fic [[spoiler:into a Saltinette story played [[PlayedForHorror for horror]]]].horror]], as it really showcases just how psychologically damaged Marinette has become.]].
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* DeconstructedCharacterArchetype: The 'Saltinette' archetype (Marinette [[TookALevelInJerkass becoming even more of a jerk]] in response to the pressures of life and deciding to [[LaserGuidedKarma make everybody who is involved in putting her in said straits burn]]) gets some deconstruction. Luka, as a supporting boyfriend, accepts that [[JerkassHasAPoint Marinette was not completely unjustified in her decision]], but nevertheless there is something very notably ''wrong'' about [[StoppedCaring how she's acting]] and that her joy in seeing certain people squirm is, at the very least, unjustified and not ideal. In the end, [[spoiler:it turns out that this particular example of Saltinette [[PlayedForHorror is a complete psycho]] who is {{Yandere}} for Luka]], playing the archetype [[ExaggeratedTrope up to overkill levels]].

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* DeconstructedCharacterArchetype: The 'Saltinette' archetype (Marinette [[TookALevelInJerkass becoming even more of a jerk]] in response to the pressures of life and deciding to [[LaserGuidedKarma make everybody who is involved in putting her in said straits burn]]) gets some deconstruction. Luka, as a supporting boyfriend, accepts that [[JerkassHasAPoint Marinette was not completely unjustified in her decision]], but nevertheless there is something very notably ''wrong'' about [[StoppedCaring how she's acting]] and that her joy in seeing certain people squirm is, at the very least, unjustified and not ideal. In the end, [[spoiler:it turns out that this particular example of Saltinette [[PlayedForHorror is a complete psycho]] who completely cracked]] and is {{Yandere}} for Luka]], playing the archetype [[ExaggeratedTrope up to overkill levels]].
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** The second of the titular two letters, revealed in the final chapter, is essentially a Wham [[ExaggeratedTrope Speech]]: [[spoiler:it reveals how Marinette completely snapped, gave the Ladybug Miraculous to Lila Rossi, removed all other Miraculous holders from the playing board to make damn sure that her terror would be unopposed (especially Bunnyx with [[MakeRightWhatOnceWentWrong her capacity to time travel]]), and her love of Luka? She is a {{Yandere}} no better than Gabriel Agreste with Emilie]]. One reviewer even said that "[[Film/{{Saw}} Hello, Zepp]]" would be appropriate background music for the scene.

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** The second of the titular two letters, revealed in the final chapter, is essentially a Wham [[ExaggeratedTrope Speech]]: [[spoiler:it reveals how Marinette completely snapped, gave the Ladybug Miraculous to Lila Rossi, removed all other Miraculous holders from the playing board to make damn sure that no one could mess with what she set up or try and lure to her terror would be unopposed take action against Lila (especially Bunnyx with [[MakeRightWhatOnceWentWrong her capacity to time travel]]), and her love of Luka? She is a {{Yandere}} no better than Gabriel Agreste with Emilie]]. One reviewer even said that "[[Film/{{Saw}} Hello, Zepp]]" would be appropriate background music for the scene.

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* WhamLine: While discussing recent akumas during Chapter 4, Marinette brings up how Gigantitan attacked [[spoiler:during Gabriel Agreste's funeral]].

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While discussing recent akumas during Chapter 4, Marinette brings up how Gigantitan attacked [[spoiler:during Gabriel Agreste's funeral]].funeral]].
** The second of the titular two letters, revealed in the final chapter, is essentially a Wham [[ExaggeratedTrope Speech]]: [[spoiler:it reveals how Marinette completely snapped, gave the Ladybug Miraculous to Lila Rossi, removed all other Miraculous holders from the playing board to make damn sure that her terror would be unopposed (especially Bunnyx with [[MakeRightWhatOnceWentWrong her capacity to time travel]]), and her love of Luka? She is a {{Yandere}} no better than Gabriel Agreste with Emilie]]. One reviewer even said that "[[Film/{{Saw}} Hello, Zepp]]" would be appropriate background music for the scene.
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* DeconstructedCharacterArchetype: The 'Saltinette' archetype (Marinette [[TookALevelInJerkass becoming even more of a jerk]] in response to the pressures of life and deciding to [[LaserGuidedKarma make everybody who is involved in putting her in said straits burn]]) gets some deconstruction. Luka, as a supporting boyfriend, accepts that [[JerkassHasAPoint Marinette was not completely unjustified in her decision]], but nevertheless there is something very notably ''wrong'' about [[StoppedCaring how she's acting]] and that her joy in seeing certain people squirm is, at the very least, unjustified and not ideal.

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* DeconstructedCharacterArchetype: The 'Saltinette' archetype (Marinette [[TookALevelInJerkass becoming even more of a jerk]] in response to the pressures of life and deciding to [[LaserGuidedKarma make everybody who is involved in putting her in said straits burn]]) gets some deconstruction. Luka, as a supporting boyfriend, accepts that [[JerkassHasAPoint Marinette was not completely unjustified in her decision]], but nevertheless there is something very notably ''wrong'' about [[StoppedCaring how she's acting]] and that her joy in seeing certain people squirm is, at the very least, unjustified and not ideal. In the end, [[spoiler:it turns out that this particular example of Saltinette [[PlayedForHorror is a complete psycho]] who is {{Yandere}} for Luka]], playing the archetype [[ExaggeratedTrope up to overkill levels]].

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** TheReveal of the final chapter, the titular second letter, turns the Fic [[spoiler:into a Saltinette story played [[PlayedForHorror for horror]]]].



* DownerEnding: The titular second letter supplies a huge reveal [[spoiler:and turns Marinette into a borderline VillainProtagonist]].

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* DownerEnding: The titular second letter supplies a huge reveal [[spoiler:and turns Marinette into a borderline VillainProtagonist]].VillainProtagonist]]. And Paris [[spoiler:is stuck with the terror that is Lila Rossi as Ladybug]]. And as for Luka, [[spoiler:he better hope that his discomfort at Marinette having NoSympathy for the others doesn't makes her mad, because she is a {{Yandere}}]].
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* DownerEnding: The titular second letter supplies a huge reveal [[spoiler:and turns Marinette into a borderline VillainProtagonist]].

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Sabine became Qilin again during the Dearest Family incident, which was the one Marinette specifically reference — she never reference the ticket inspector Qilin incident, but did reference the motorcycle one


** She called out Alya for the Oblivio and Lady Wifi incidents, but didn't condemn her for becoming Rena Rage--possibly because she's willing to attribute that one to Dark Cupid, who had magically corrupted Alya at the time.

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** She condemned her parents for getting akumatized over her dating life and whether she should get a motorcycle, but did not condemn her mother for being akumatized over being falsely arrested by a ticket inspector.
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called out Alya for the Oblivio and Lady Wifi incidents, but didn't condemn her for becoming Rena Rage--possibly because she's willing to attribute that one to Dark Cupid, who had magically corrupted Alya at the time.



** And she's notably refused to condemn any of Luka's akumatizations.

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She does end up referring to her mother as Qilin


** She condemned her parents for getting akumatized over her dating life and whether she should get a motorcycle, but did not condemn her mother for being akumatized over being falsely arrested by a ticket inspector.
** Similarly, she called out Alya for the Oblivio and Lady Wifi incidents, but didn't condemn her for becoming Rena Rage--possibly because she's willing to attribute that one to Dark Cupid, who had magically corrupted Alya at the time.

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** She condemned her parents for getting akumatized over her dating life and whether she should get a motorcycle, but did not condemn her mother for being akumatized over being falsely arrested by a ticket inspector.
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called out Alya for the Oblivio and Lady Wifi incidents, but didn't condemn her for becoming Rena Rage--possibly because she's willing to attribute that one to Dark Cupid, who had magically corrupted Alya at the time.
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Chapter 11 revealed why


** And she's notably refused to condemn any of Luka's akumatizations, though the reason why hasn't been revealed yet.

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** And she's notably refused to condemn any of Luka's akumatizations, though the reason why hasn't been revealed yet.akumatizations.



* OnceDoneNeverForgotten: Marinette still blames (almost) everyone for what they did as akuma, even good people who only slipped up and got akumatized once. She even sometimes refers to people by their akuma names instead of their actual names, calling Nadja "Miss Prime Queen" in conversation to Luka and calling Gabriel "The Collector" to Alya.

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* OnceDoneNeverForgotten: Marinette still blames (almost) everyone for what they did as akuma, even good people who only slipped up and got akumatized once. She even sometimes refers to people by their akuma names instead of their actual names, calling Nadja "Miss Prime Queen" in conversation to Luka and calling Gabriel "The Collector" to Alya. The final chapter, which shows us Marinette's thoughts for the first time, reveals she mentally refers to almost everyone around her by their akuma names.



* {{Yandere}}: Chapter 4 has started to show Marinette making statements indicating that, if something bad happened to Luka or if he dumped her, she would react... badly.

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* {{Yandere}}: Chapter 4 has started to show Marinette making statements indicating that, if something bad happened to Luka or if he dumped her, she would react... badly.
badly. Chapter 11 reveals how badly. [[spoiler:She would use the Wish power of the Miraculouses to destroy the world and build another where Luka would be her perfect, loving boyfriend forever.]]
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* BatmanGambit: It turns out that Marinette's plan to retire and give her Miraculous to [[spoiler:her former nemesis Lila Rossi]] wasn't just to find a replacement that could keep Paris safe from Hawkmoth, or even just to punish Paris by bringing in a SketchySuccessor. It was also to lure [[spoiler:Bunnyx, [=AKA=] Alix Kubdel]] out into the open so Marinette could deal with her and not have to worry about interfering in the future, and to set up a FidelityTest for [[spoiler:her boyfriend Luka Couffaine]] to see if he would respect her position to no longer be a hero even when someone was causing problems in Paris.
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* BlatantLies: Marinette's second letter, the one she wrote to herself, isn't strictly honest. In particular she writes that [[spoiler:she never came close to being akumatized, and that the Princess Justice incident specifically did not happen and was made up by Alya. This is, of course, not true.]]


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* NoteToSelf: The second letter is one Marinette wrote for herself.
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And besides. The new Ladybug might not be 'heroic' in the classic sense of the world. But Marinette knows she's ''exactly'' what the citizens of Paris deserve.

''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/43334719 Two Letters]]'' is a ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' {{Horror}} story by [[https://archiveofourown.org/users/CartoonAddict564 CartoonAddict564]], who previously wrote ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies''. ''Two Letters'' is currently incomplete.

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And besides.Besides. The new Ladybug might not be 'heroic' in the classic sense of the world. But Marinette knows she's ''exactly'' what the citizens of Paris deserve.

''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/43334719 Two Letters]]'' is a ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' {{Horror}} story by [[https://archiveofourown.org/users/CartoonAddict564 CartoonAddict564]], who previously wrote ''Fanfic/TheKarmaOfLies''. ''Two Letters'' is currently incomplete.
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* TheResenter: Ladybug's first letter reveals that, over time, she grew to resent people who were akumatized, especially those who had it happen multiple times or for reasons that Ladybug thought were stupid or petty. The present-day segments indicate that Marinette still holds a grudge against even good people like her parents (for getting akumatized over [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS03E06Weredad Tom wanting Chat Noir to date her]] and [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS04E21DearestFamily an argument over whether Marinette should get a motorcycle]]) and Kagami (for getting akumatized over [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS02E05Riposte Marinette making a bad call in a fencing match]]).

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Ladybug's first letter reveals that, over time, she grew to resent people who were akumatized, especially those who had it happen multiple times or for reasons that Ladybug thought were stupid or petty. The present-day segments indicate that Marinette still holds a grudge against even good people like her parents (for getting akumatized over [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS03E06Weredad Tom wanting Chat Noir to date her]] and [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS04E21DearestFamily an argument over whether Marinette should get a motorcycle]]) and Kagami (for getting akumatized over [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS02E05Riposte Marinette making a bad call in a fencing match]]).match]]).
** Avian God [[spoiler:also known as Felix Fathom]] seems to have some of this too, saying that 'it was a pleasure' to send a sentimonster to wreck [[spoiler:the funeral of Gabriel Agreste]].
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It's been explained what happened, so it's no longer uncertain


* UncertainDoom: Luka says in the third chapter that Alya 'self-destructed'; it's not until [[spoiler:Chapter 7]] that we learn exactly what that means.
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Chapter 9 says the second letter was hidden so Marinette herself could get at it, not sent to Luka


So she quit. She made a few preparations, wrote two letters to Luka so the one person she still cared about would know what had happened, and renounced her miraculous and her position as the Guardian forever.

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So she quit. She made a few preparations, wrote two letters a letter to Luka so the one person she still cared about would know what had happened, and renounced her miraculous and her position as the Guardian forever.
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The timeline was erased along with the ladybug who witnessed it so would she have the memory?


** For all the things she condemned Adrien for, becoming Chat Blanc wasn't one of them.
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* OnceDoneNeverForgotten: Marinette still blames (almost) everyone for what they did as akuma, even good people who only slipped up and got akumatized once. She even sometimes refers to people by their akuma names instead of their actual names, calling Nadja "Miss Prime Queen" in conversation to Luka and calling Gabriel "The Collector" to Alya.

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** Alya Cesaire had several [[FatalFlaw bad tendencies]]: her [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness impulsiveness]], TheoryTunnelvision, and GoingForTheBigScoop without considering any potential consequences, as well as brushing off said consequences and insisting they [[NeverMyFault weren't her fault]] and were "no big deal." After Marinette's retirement, all of these [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty caught up with her]] when she started prying into the new Ladybug, culminating in her [[spoiler:crashing an akuma battle while disguised as Chat Noir as part of a half-baked plan to expose her. Instead, the new Ladybug was seemingly injured protecting her, then gave an impassioned speech about not getting involved in fights 'just to get clips for social media']]. Without Marinette around to shield her from the fallout, Alya 'self-destructed'.



* UncertainDoom: Luka says in the third chapter that Alya 'self-destructed', but what that actually means hasn't been clarified yet.

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* UncertainDoom: Luka says in the third chapter that Alya 'self-destructed', but 'self-destructed'; it's not until [[spoiler:Chapter 7]] that we learn exactly what that actually means hasn't been clarified yet.means.
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** In many salt fics, Marinette becomes furious at her friends for believing Lila's lies. Here, though, while Marinette is still very angry at some people like Alya, she makes it clear that--given her constant life-or-death battles against akumas--she really couldn't care less about something as trivial as people believing Lila's lies about having tinnitus or knowing celebrities.

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** In many salt fics, Marinette becomes furious at her friends for believing Lila's lies. Here, though, while Marinette is still very angry at some people like Alya, she makes it clear that--given her constant life-or-death battles against akumas--she really couldn't care less about something as trivial as people believing Lila's lies about having tinnitus or knowing celebrities. Instead, when she's angry at people, it's due to their akumatizations or their actions as miraculous users.
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** Similarly, she called out Alya for the Oblivio and Lady Wifi incidents, but didn't condemn her for becoming Rena Rage--possibly because she's willing to attribute that one to Dark Cupid, who had magically corrupted her at the time.
** She also called out Nino for all of his akumatizations except for Shell Shock, possibly for a similar reason as above.
** She called out Kagami for being Riposte, but didn't condemn her for becoming Lies and Oni-Chan. This may have something to do with the comments in her letter complaining of Chat Noir emotionally manipulating her in some way; she may feel sympathy for Kagami becoming angry over Adrien and Lila manipulating her emotions.

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** Similarly, she called out Alya for the Oblivio and Lady Wifi incidents, but didn't condemn her for becoming Rena Rage--possibly because she's willing to attribute that one to Dark Cupid, who had magically corrupted her Alya at the time.
** She also called out harshly criticized Nino for all of his akumatizations except for Shell Shock, possibly for a similar reason as above.
** She called out blamed Kagami for being Riposte, but didn't condemn her for becoming Lies and Oni-Chan. This may have something to do with the The exact reason why hasn't been said yet, but based on comments in her letter complaining of Chat Noir emotionally manipulating her in some way; she may feel sympathy for Kagami becoming angry over Adrien and Lila manipulating her emotions.

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