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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The ISOT is stated to cause gigantic earthquakes. These devastate the affected regions, with descriptions of entire villages being wiped off the map as a result.
** When said earthquakes happen next to large bodies of water, Tidal Waves happen. Said waves proceed to cause even more damage.
** There's another major one going on in the Holy Roman Empire, which threatens to tip the whole of western Europe into a major war.
** When said earthquakes happen next to large bodies of water, Tidal Waves happen. Said waves proceed to cause even more damage.
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* TheCameo: [[UpToEleven Every single Vala (except Morgoth)]] appears at least briefly in Chapter 3.
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Starting to approach this, especially as the War with Mordor begins to spread further and further and more and more nations are drawn in.
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* RealityEnsues: The ISOT is stated to cause gigantic earthquakes. These devastate the affected regions, with descriptions of entire villages being wiped off the map as a result.
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* SacrificialLamb: Poor [[spoiler: Leszek the White]].
* ShoutOut: Myth/RobinHood gets a reference from John of England when the latter is complaining about disloyalty among his subjects.
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** Constance of Aragon, towards Andrew of Hungary (as mentioned above).
** Dominic of Osma does this to Thranduil, again as a brief outburst of frustration.
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* TemptingFate: See DramaticIrony above.
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* TheAtoner: [[{{Literature/TheSilmarillion}} Maglor]] is set up to become this.
* TheCameo: [[UpToEleven Every single Vala (except Morgoth)]] appears at least briefly in Chapter 3.
* DivineIntervention: What the Vala have been limited to, as explained below (see GodsHandsAreTied).
* DreamingOfThingsToCome: The main form of the Vala's intervention: multiple "Champions" are given visions of the future/direct warning from the Vala in Chapter 3, giving them a head start on the coming war.
* DreamingOfThingsToCome: The main form of the Vala's intervention: multiple "Champions" are given visions of the future/direct warning from the Vala in Chapter 3, giving them a head start on the coming war.
* GodsHandsAreTied: The Vala can't directly intervene against Sauron for fear of [[{{Literature/TheSilmarillion}} destroying a large portion of what they're trying to protect]].
* InfoDump: Around half of Chapter 3 (Instruments of the Great Music) is a massive ExpositionDump that details the historical background of most of the European cast.
** There's another major one going on in the Holy Roman Empire, which threatens to tip the whole of western Europe into a major war.
* TakeAThirdOption: The Vala's (particularly the Vala all but stated to be Tulkas') solution to the SuccessionCrisis in the HRE: rather than choose a side in the brewing Civil War, send the warning about Sauron to the largely neutral King of Bohemia.
* TakeAThirdOption: The Vala's (particularly the Vala all but stated to be Tulkas') solution to the SuccessionCrisis in the HRE: rather than choose a side in the brewing Civil War, send the warning about Sauron to the largely neutral King of Bohemia.
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** The future Emperor Baldwin of the Latin Empire (the portion of the Byzantine Empire that was conquered by the 4th Crusade) is briefly mentioned in Chapter 3 as a major member of the still-forming 4th Crusade.
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* DramaticIrony: Duke Leopold VI of Austria thinks very little of the reports of a freak blizzard in his Alpine territories, thinking that whatever problems it caused will be easily solved.
* FromBadToWorse: Norway is in the middle of a ''70 year long Civil War.'' Cue the ISOT dropping the Withered Heath within spitting distance of the Kingdom's capital.
* RealityEnsues: The ISOT is stated to cause gigantic earthquakes. These devastate the affected regions, with descriptions of entire villages being wiped off the map as a result.
**When said earthquakes happen next to large bodies of water, Tidal Waves happen. Said waves proceed to cause even more damage.
* SuccessionCrisis: A particularly brutal one is going on in Norway: due to the Kingdom's lack of clear Laws of Succession, there's been a intermittent Civil War going on for ''70 years'' by the time the story starts.
**When said earthquakes happen next to large bodies of water, Tidal Waves happen. Said waves proceed to cause even more damage.
* SuccessionCrisis: A particularly brutal one is going on in Norway: due to the Kingdom's lack of clear Laws of Succession, there's been a intermittent Civil War going on for ''70 years'' by the time the story starts.
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* PointOfDivergence: Gandalf [[ForWantOfANail slipping on a small stone]] during his duel with the Balrog, leaving him unable to kill it as in canon.
* UnstoppableRage: The Balrog starts fighting like this after Gandalf manages to land a critical blow [[PointOfDivergence that in canon would have killed it]] during their duel.
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Said Reboot was launched on Christmas Day 2019, and can be read [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-rule-them-all-between-heaven-and-hell.480711/#post-19978771 here]], [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-between-heaven-and-hell.813008/ here]], [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-between-heaven-and-hell.59888/ here]], [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/21958516/chapters/52400578 here]] or [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13461018/1/To-Rule-Them-All-Between-Heaven-and-Hell here]].
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Said Reboot Reboot, subtitiled "Between Heaven and Hell", was launched on Christmas Day 2019, and can be read [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-rule-them-all-between-heaven-and-hell.480711/#post-19978771 here]], [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-between-heaven-and-hell.813008/ here]], [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-between-heaven-and-hell.59888/ here]], [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/21958516/chapters/52400578 here]] or [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13461018/1/To-Rule-Them-All-Between-Heaven-and-Hell here]].
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''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-rule-them-all-a-lord-of-the-rings-isot.411863/ To Rule Them All: A Lord of the Rings ISOT]]'' is a ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' fanfic written by Severak, first appearing on {{Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom}}, later being cross-posted to {{Website/SpaceBattles}} [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.514036/ here]] (as well as Spacebattles' sister site Sufficent Velocity [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.46586/ here]]), {{Website/FanfictionDotNet}} [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12690966/1/To-Rule-Them-All/ here]] and {{Website/ArchiveofOurOwn}} [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12497936/chapters/28453596 here]]. It is a reboot of a classic AH.com thread (found [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mordor-isengard-misty-mountains-isoted-to-medieval-europe.198299/ Here]]). Unfortunately, that version of story was never completed, becoming a DeadFic in 2012. Five years later, a writing challenge was posted on Alternate History to reboot the story, resulting in the new version, which was launched on March 12, 2017.
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''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-rule-them-all-a-lord-of-the-rings-isot.411863/ To Rule Them All: A Lord of the Rings ISOT]]'' is a ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' fanfic written by Severak, first appearing on {{Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom}}, later being cross-posted to {{Website/SpaceBattles}} [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.514036/ here]] (as well as Spacebattles' sister site Sufficent Velocity [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.46586/ here]]), {{Website/FanfictionDotNet}} [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12690966/1/To-Rule-Them-All/ here]] and {{Website/ArchiveofOurOwn}} [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12497936/chapters/28453596 here]]. It is a reboot of a classic AH.com thread (found [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mordor-isengard-misty-mountains-isoted-to-medieval-europe.198299/ Here]]). Unfortunately, that version of story was never completed, becoming a DeadFic in 2012. Five years later, a writing challenge was posted on Alternate History to reboot the story, resulting in the new version, which was launched on March 12, 2017.
2017. That version was ''also'' declared a DeadFic on July 25, 2019, after nearly a year without updating. WordOfGod claims that a Reboot is now in the works.
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* RiskingTheKing: King Emeric of Hungary, Grand Prince Rurik of Kiev and Count Thomas of Savoy all lead personal expeditions into the ISOTed lands that appear near their realms. It works out differently for all three of them.
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* RiskingTheKing: King Emeric of Hungary, Grand Prince Rurik of Kiev and Count Thomas of Savoy all lead personal expeditions into the ISOTed [=ISOT=]ed lands that appear near their realms. It works out differently for all three of them.
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* ShoutOut: {{Myth/RobinHood}} gets a reference from John of England when the latter is complaining about disloyalty among his subjects.
** {{Myth/KingArthur}} is also brought up several times later in the same scene.
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* ShoutOut: {{Myth/RobinHood}} Myth/RobinHood gets a reference from John of England when the latter is complaining about disloyalty among his subjects.
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''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-rule-them-all-a-lord-of-the-rings-isot.411863/ To Rule Them All: A Lord of the Rings ISOT]]'' is TheLordoftheRings Fanfiction written by Severak, first appearing on {{Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom}}, later being cross-posted to {{Website/SpaceBattles}} [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.514036/ here]] (as well as Spacebattles' sister site Sufficent Velocity [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.46586/ here]]), {{Website/FanfictionDotNet}} [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12690966/1/To-Rule-Them-All/ here]] and {{Website/ArchiveofOurOwn}} [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12497936/chapters/28453596 here]]. It is a reboot of a classic AH.com thread (found [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mordor-isengard-misty-mountains-isoted-to-medieval-europe.198299/ Here]]). Unfortunately, that version of story was never completed, becoming a DeadFic in 2012. Five years later, a writing challenge was posted on Alternate History to reboot the story, resulting in the new version, which was launched on March 12, 2017.
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''[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/to-rule-them-all-a-lord-of-the-rings-isot.411863/ To Rule Them All: A Lord of the Rings ISOT]]'' is TheLordoftheRings Fanfiction a ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' fanfic written by Severak, first appearing on {{Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom}}, later being cross-posted to {{Website/SpaceBattles}} [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.514036/ here]] (as well as Spacebattles' sister site Sufficent Velocity [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/to-rule-them-all-lord-of-the-rings-and-1200-ad-europe.46586/ here]]), {{Website/FanfictionDotNet}} [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12690966/1/To-Rule-Them-All/ here]] and {{Website/ArchiveofOurOwn}} [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/12497936/chapters/28453596 here]]. It is a reboot of a classic AH.com thread (found [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mordor-isengard-misty-mountains-isoted-to-medieval-europe.198299/ Here]]). Unfortunately, that version of story was never completed, becoming a DeadFic in 2012. Five years later, a writing challenge was posted on Alternate History to reboot the story, resulting in the new version, which was launched on March 12, 2017.
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* AuthorAppeal: DramaticIrony. The examples listed below are just the "in-your-face" ones.
** Alfonso of Castile also starts contemplating suicide after losing most of his family, along with roughly half of his Kingdom, to the ISOT.
** Tulkas pops up to Alfonso of Castile in "Three Beginnings" to give some aid to Alfonso of Castile.
* GodsHandsAreTied: The Valar have this problem: it's stated that if they directly intervene, the entire world will ''shatter'' do to their presence finishing off the already-damaged fabric of reality so they're limited to indirect aid.
* KissingCousins: A historical example: Alfonso of Castile's daughter Berengaria is married to his nephew, Alfonso of Leon.
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* OneSteveLimit: Averted. There are two Philips and two Conrads. Played With by Stefan of Serbia's father Stefan Nemanja: said father is referred to by his monastic name of "Simeon" more often than not, and he dies of old age at the end of his introductory scene.
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* OneSteveLimit: Averted. There are two Philips Philips, two Conrads and two Conrads.Alfonsos. Played With by Stefan of Serbia's father Stefan Nemanja: said father is referred to by his monastic name of "Simeon" more often than not, and he dies of old age at the end of his introductory scene.
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* KingInTheMountain: [[spoiler: Leszek]] becomes one after [[spoiler: the duel between the Balrog and Galadriel]].
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* FallenHero: [[spoiler: Maglor]], as described in the {{Literature/TheSilmarillion}}. As referenced above, however, they have been given the chance to become TheAtoner instead.
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* DreamingOfThingsToCome: Used thrice so far: [[ChurchMilitant Pope Innocent III]] is given a vision by [[BigGood Eru/God]] that Foreshadows much of the plot. Likewise, the canonical Mirror of Galadriel is used to show glimpses of coming events. Played With by the vision given to Konchek of the Cumans, which serves more a as a general warning, and doesn't show the future, instead showing him the events currently unfolding in Poland and Hungary.
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* DreamingOfThingsToCome: Used thrice so far: [[ChurchMilitant Pope Innocent III]] is given a vision by [[BigGood Eru/God]] that Foreshadows much of the plot. Likewise, the canonical Mirror of Galadriel is used to show glimpses of coming events. Played
**Played With by the vision given to Konchek of the Cumans, which serves more a as a general warning, and doesn't show the future, instead showing him the events currently unfolding in Poland andHungary.Hungary.
**Stefan Nemanja also receives a vision of his sons just before his death, although the audience themselves is not shown it.
**Played With by the vision given to Konchek of the Cumans, which serves more a as a general warning, and doesn't show the future, instead showing him the events currently unfolding in Poland and
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* SmallRoleBigImpact: Stefan Nemanja dies in his introductory scene, but spends it setting up his son Sava's subplot.
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** Constance of Aragon, towards Andrew of Hungary (as mentioned above).
** Dominic of Osma does this to Thranduil, again as a brief outburst of frustration.
** [[spoiler: Maglor]] does this as well, when trying to convince Nienna that he can't be her Champion.
** Constance of Aragon, towards Andrew of Hungary (as mentioned above).
** Dominic of Osma does this to Thranduil, again as a brief outburst of frustration.
** [[spoiler: Maglor]] does this as well, when trying to convince Nienna that he can't be her Champion.
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* TheAtoner: [[spoiler: Maglor]] is set up to be one of these.
* DareToBeBadass: Nienna gives one of these to [[spoiler: Maglor]] to inspire him to be her Champion.
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* DivineIntervention: Eru/God is a lot more open about this than they are in canon. It's heavily implied several times that they are actively working to make sure several people are in the right place, such as Dominic going to Thranduil and Gandalf making it to Rome. Similarly, a woman that is all but stated to be [[MotherNature Yavanna]] appears to Konchek of the Cumans to warn him about Sauron's spreading influence.
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**In "Arise from Slumber," Nienna and a figure implied to be Vaire appear to [[spoiler: Maglor]] and John of England respectively.
**Similarly, a woman that is all but stated to be [[MotherNature Yavanna]] appears to Konchek of the Cumans to warn him about Sauron's spreading
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