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* AnAxeToGrind: Slyphie, who while nominally a White Mage prefers using axes to staves, enough to name them.
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* BadassBookworm: Symond is the only other character (besides Ramza) to have the Academics skill, and is one of the most trusted advisers of the Eighth Order. His literacy is a big deal because most commoners like Gauwyn and Aran don't even get a chance of an education.
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* BadassBookworm: Symond is the only other character (besides Ramza) to have the Academics skill, and is one of the most trusted advisers of the Eighth Order. His literacy is a big deal because most commoners like Gauwyn and Aran don't even get a chance of an education. Avelyn is one as well, but not to Symond's extent.
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* TwoScenesOneDialogue: During the Eighth Order's journey to Sinjal Shrine, a humorous series of dialogues is shared between the various groups of Eights, all of whom are unknowingly, coincidentally and simultaneously talking about Ramza.
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* TwoScenesOneDialogue: During the Eighth Order's journey to adventure in Sinjal Shrine, a humorous series of dialogues is shared between the various groups of Eights, all of whom are unknowingly, coincidentally and simultaneously talking about Ramza.
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* BareFistedMonk: Ramza has some training in the Monk class, while Justina is an experienced one herself and can go toe-to-toe with another Monk.
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* BareFistedMonk: Ramza has some training in the Monk class, while Justina is an experienced one herself and can go toe-to-toe with another Monk. One of the newer Eights, Voyce, is one as well.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: Avelyn and Voyce, the Eighth Order's newest recruits following the successful Siege of Lesalia. They (mostly a cheerful Avelyn) make it a point to Ramza to not ask about what they used to do, and it's heavily implied that they both used to be assassins-for-hire.
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* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting of everyone from that battle.
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* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route en-route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting of everyone from that battle.
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* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oaks' survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of the Siege of Lesalia Arc, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
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* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oaks' survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of the Siege of Lesalia Arc, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, survived but it wasn't a happy reunion]].reunion, though it did eventually get resolved]].
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* NumberTwo: Symond and Sighard to Ramza.
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* TheQuietOne: Voyce. He tends not to talk too much, preferring to nod or shake his head whenever possible. He does speak up at length when questioned, however.
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** Josian Valentyne, who used to be one for [[spoiler: House Orlandeau.]]
* TwoScenesOneDialogue: During the Eighth Order's journey to Sinjal Shrine, a humorous series of dialogues is shared between the various groups of Eights, all of whom are unknowingly, coincidentally and simultaneously talking about Ramza.
* TwoScenesOneDialogue: During the Eighth Order's journey to Sinjal Shrine, a humorous series of dialogues is shared between the various groups of Eights, all of whom are unknowingly, coincidentally and simultaneously talking about Ramza.
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* ActionSurvivor: Arabella. She's one of the stronger knights of the Lionsguard, but is rather ordinary compared to the likes of Ramza, Symond and Agrias. She manages to survive the ambush in Orbonne, as well as [[spoiler: the battle against Maetus, who effortlessly killed two monks assisting her and Ramza]].
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* ActionSurvivor: Arabella. She's one of the stronger knights of the Lionsguard, but is rather ordinary compared to the likes of Ramza, Symond and Agrias. She manages to survive the ambush in Orbonne, as well as [[spoiler: the battle against Maetus, who effortlessly killed two monks Monks assisting her and Ramza]].Ramza]].
* AnAxeToGrind: Slyphie, who while nominally a White Mage prefers using axes to staves, enough to name them.
* AnAxeToGrind: Slyphie, who while nominally a White Mage prefers using axes to staves, enough to name them.
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* BareFistedMonk: Ramza has some training in the Monk class, while Justina is an experienced one herself and can go toe-to-toe with another Monk.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Siege of Lesalia was successful, but at the cost of Dyana's life.]]
%%* CloudCuckoolander: Slyphie.
* DelayedReaction: Symond tends to take everything in stride, from [[spoiler: Ramza's last name]] to getting a Nat-20 critical find on a mission, but once it actually settles in what just happened, he WILL flip ([[RuleOfFunny comically, usually]]).
* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting everyone from that battle.
* FlatWhat: Agrias' reaction when told [[spoiler: Louveria was transformed into a Lucavi by Pieces.]]
* GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not cancelled, and Delita's up to something new.
* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters. It's one of the main reasons the question whether or not she's dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
* ImportantHaircut: In Kei's expanded lore, cutting one's hair is a big deal, and usually a sign for boys who mature to men once they cut their ponytail. Ramza cuts his as both a sign of maturity [[spoiler: and to better blend in when operating a sting on Lesalia]]. [[spoiler: Agrias also cuts her hair in the two and half months time she was on the run from pursuers]].
* InterfaceSpoiler: Character sheets show when Order members have hidden abilities not known to Ramza in character.
* INeedAFreakingDrink: Some of the more jaw dropping reveals promote this reaction to Ramza's superiors. As reader [=BlackoutSampler=] has put it, he is officially "Ivalice's Number One Reason to Become an Alcoholic".
%%* CloudCuckoolander: Slyphie.
* DelayedReaction: Symond tends to take everything in stride, from [[spoiler: Ramza's last name]] to getting a Nat-20 critical find on a mission, but once it actually settles in what just happened, he WILL flip ([[RuleOfFunny comically, usually]]).
* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting everyone from that battle.
* FlatWhat: Agrias' reaction when told [[spoiler: Louveria was transformed into a Lucavi by Pieces.]]
* GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not cancelled, and Delita's up to something new.
* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters. It's one of the main reasons the question whether or not she's dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
* ImportantHaircut: In Kei's expanded lore, cutting one's hair is a big deal, and usually a sign for boys who mature to men once they cut their ponytail. Ramza cuts his as both a sign of maturity [[spoiler: and to better blend in when operating a sting on Lesalia]]. [[spoiler: Agrias also cuts her hair in the two and half months time she was on the run from pursuers]].
* InterfaceSpoiler: Character sheets show when Order members have hidden abilities not known to Ramza in character.
* INeedAFreakingDrink: Some of the more jaw dropping reveals promote this reaction to Ramza's superiors. As reader [=BlackoutSampler=] has put it, he is officially "Ivalice's Number One Reason to Become an Alcoholic".
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Siege of Lesalia was successful, [[spoiler: but at the cost of Dyana's life.]]
%%* * BluntNo: This is occasionally Justina's reaction to Ramza's requests.
* CloudCuckoolander:Slyphie.
Slyphie. Oh boy, where do we even begin? Let's see: She came to study at Gariland Magick Akademy, believing it was a church in Mullond where she could learn more about using white magic. She names her axes affectionately and cheerfully gives nicknames to everyone she knows, and sometimes uses words that tends to confuse others. It took Ramza and his former squad-mates quite a while to get used to her... uniqueness, and even so, he can still get surprised by the things she says. Though there are some hints that Slyphie is actually more on the ball than everyone likes to think, despite her seeming airheadedness.
* DelayedReaction: Symond tends to take everything in stride, from learning of [[spoiler: Ramza's true last name]] to getting a Nat-20 critical find on a mission, but once it actually settles in what just happened, he WILL flip out ([[RuleOfFunnycomically, and comically too, usually]]).
* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting of everyone from that battle.
* FlatWhat: Agrias' reaction when she was told that [[spoiler: Queen Louveriawas got transformed into a Lucavi by Pieces.the Pisces Zodiac Stone.]]
* GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now that Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not cancelled, and Delita's up to something new.
* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionatelytreat treats as sisters. It's one of the main reasons the question of whether or not she's she was dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
* ImportantHaircut: In Kei's expanded lore, cutting one's hair is a big deal, and usually a sign for boys who mature to men once they cut their ponytail. Ramzacuts decides to cut his as both a sign of maturity [[spoiler: and to better blend in when operating a sting on Lesalia]]. [[spoiler: Agrias also cuts her hair in the two and a half months time she was on the run from her pursuers]].
* InterfaceSpoiler: Character sheets show when Order members have hidden abilities that are not known to Ramzain character.
in-character.
* INeedAFreakingDrink: Some of the morejaw dropping jaw-dropping reveals promote promotes this reaction to Ramza's superiors. As reader [=BlackoutSampler=] has put it, he is officially "Ivalice's Number One Reason to Become an Alcoholic".
* CloudCuckoolander:
* DelayedReaction: Symond tends to take everything in stride, from learning of [[spoiler: Ramza's true last name]] to getting a Nat-20 critical find on a mission, but once it actually settles in what just happened, he WILL flip out ([[RuleOfFunny
* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting of everyone from that battle.
* FlatWhat: Agrias' reaction when she was told that [[spoiler: Queen Louveria
* GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now that Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not cancelled, and Delita's up to something new.
* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately
* ImportantHaircut: In Kei's expanded lore, cutting one's hair is a big deal, and usually a sign for boys who mature to men once they cut their ponytail. Ramza
* InterfaceSpoiler: Character sheets show when Order members have hidden abilities that are not known to Ramza
* INeedAFreakingDrink: Some of the more
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%%* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: [[SlashedThroat Alicia, Lavian]] and Dyana.]]
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down, such as Ramza's abrupt discovery of the Gemini Zodiac Stone followed by it's effects on Symond. [[spoiler: One of the most evident situations was when Ramza, Arabella and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt Emperor]].]]
* MasterOfAll: Barbaneth's and Ramza's unique ability. Knight Gallant wasn't a class, it was a title. Barbaneth used whatever class abilities he felt like, ignoring the usual 2-class limit, as does Ramza.
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down, such as Ramza's abrupt discovery of the Gemini Zodiac Stone followed by it's effects on Symond. [[spoiler: One of the most evident situations was when Ramza, Arabella and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt Emperor]].]]
* MasterOfAll: Barbaneth's and Ramza's unique ability. Knight Gallant wasn't a class, it was a title. Barbaneth used whatever class abilities he felt like, ignoring the usual 2-class limit, as does Ramza.
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* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down, such as Ramza's abrupt discovery of the Gemini Zodiac Stone followed by it's curious effects on Symond. [[spoiler: One of the most evident situations was when Ramza, Arabella and two
* MasterOfAll: Barbaneth's and Ramza's unique ability. The former's Knight Gallant wasn't a class,
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%%* {{Meido}}: Isamy.
* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, [[spoiler:a knight force arrives and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is then killed shortly afterwards. All hell breaks loose as the rest of the forces charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape in the chaos.]]
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oaks' survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, [[spoiler:a knight force arrives and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is then killed shortly afterwards. All hell breaks loose as the rest of the forces charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape in the chaos.]]
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oaks' survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
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* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, [[spoiler:a knight force arrives and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oaks' survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of
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** Whatever it was that happened which caused [[spoiler: Alicia]] and [[spoiler: Lavian]] to beat up Symond in their first meeting, he refuses to reveal, and grumbles furiously whenever it's brought up.
* PhantomThief: A low-key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal bread and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
* PhantomThief: A low-key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal bread and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
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** Whatever it was that happened which caused [[spoiler: Alicia]] and [[spoiler: Lavian]] to beat up Symond in their first meeting, he refuses to reveal, and grumbles furiously whenever it's brought up.
* PhantomThief: A low-key example, but Gauwynmanaged to steal stole bread and avoid while avoiding the authorities for a ''year''. whole ''year,'' embarrassing the Zeltennian Guard. He was only caught because spymaster Justina personally brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential as reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
* PhantomThief: A low-key example, but Gauwyn
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* RefugeInAudacity: Symond, on a whim during the Lesalia Arc, decided to casually walk into the heavily guarded personal office of Viscount Olyver Wilfrid, the head of the city's Northern Sky garrison, to copy and steal papers directly from the man's desk while he was out. ''He succeeded.''
** Even better, he also acted like he belonged there while avoiding the local knight patrols, and even managed to question a few of the Viscount's servants who he inadvertently fooled into believing he wasn't an intruder. Way to go, Symond!
** Even better, he also acted like he belonged there while avoiding the local knight patrols, and even managed to question a few of the Viscount's servants who he inadvertently fooled into believing he wasn't an intruder. Way to go, Symond!
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* RefugeInAudacity: Symond, on a whim during the Siege of Lesalia Arc, decided to casually walk into the heavily guarded personal office of Viscount Olyver Wilfrid, the head of the city's Northern Sky garrison, to copy and steal papers directly from the man's desk while he was out. ''He succeeded.''
** Even better, he also acted like he belonged there while avoiding the local knight patrols, andeven managed to question got away with questioning a few of the Viscount's servants who he inadvertently fooled into believing he wasn't an intruder. Way to go, Symond!
** Even better, he also acted like he belonged there while avoiding the local knight patrols, and
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%%* RichesToRags: [[spoiler:Guinevere.]]
* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn does this, while not in a video game. He literally steals enemy equipment mid-battle.
* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn does this, while not in a video game. He literally steals enemy equipment mid-battle.
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* TheSpymaster: Justina Eilonwy, who currently serves as one to House Orlandeau and the Southern Sky.
* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn
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* DelayedReaction: Symond tends to take everything in stride, from [[spoiler: Ramza's last name]] to getting a Nat-20 critical find on a mission, but once it actually settles in what just happened, he WILL flip ([[RuleOfFunny comically, usually]].)
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* DelayedReaction: Symond tends to take everything in stride, from [[spoiler: Ramza's last name]] to getting a Nat-20 critical find on a mission, but once it actually settles in what just happened, he WILL flip ([[RuleOfFunny comically, usually]].)usually]]).
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* NoodleIncident: Orlandeau knows Barbaneth well enough that he usually causes trouble repeatedly. But he's shocked to not only see Marianne blow up a church with Meteor, but of the implication that she has done so before (understandable in that it was their first meeting at the time.)
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* NoodleIncident: Orlandeau knows Barbaneth well enough that he usually causes trouble repeatedly. But he's shocked to not only see Marianne blow up a church with Meteor, but of the implication that she has done so before (understandable in that it was their first meeting at the time.)time).
** Whatever it was that happened which caused [[spoiler: Alicia]] and [[spoiler: Lavian]] to beat up Symond in their first meeting, he refuses to reveal, and grumbles furiously whenever it's brought up.
** Whatever it was that happened which caused [[spoiler: Alicia]] and [[spoiler: Lavian]] to beat up Symond in their first meeting, he refuses to reveal, and grumbles furiously whenever it's brought up.
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* RefugeInAudacity: Symond, on a whim during the Lesalia Arc, decided to casually walk into the heavily guarded personal office of Viscount Olyver Wilfrid, the head of the city's Northern Sky garrison, to copy and steal papers directly from the man's desk while he was out. ''He succeeded.''
** Even better, he also acted like he belonged there while avoiding the local knight patrols, and even managed to question a few of the Viscount's servants who he inadvertently fooled into believing he wasn't an intruder. Way to go, Symond!
-->'''Symond:''' ''Holy bloody Ajora,'' I can't believe ''I just did that.''
** Even better, he also acted like he belonged there while avoiding the local knight patrols, and even managed to question a few of the Viscount's servants who he inadvertently fooled into believing he wasn't an intruder. Way to go, Symond!
-->'''Symond:''' ''Holy bloody Ajora,'' I can't believe ''I just did that.''
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* ActionSurvivor: Arabella. She's one of the stronger knights of the Lionsguard, but is rather ordinary compared to the likes of Ramza, Symond, and Agrias. She manages to survive the ambush in Orbonne, as well as [[spoiler: the battle against Maetus, who effortlessly killed two monks assisting her and Ramza]].
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* ActionSurvivor: Arabella. She's one of the stronger knights of the Lionsguard, but is rather ordinary compared to the likes of Ramza, Symond, Symond and Agrias. She manages to survive the ambush in Orbonne, as well as [[spoiler: the battle against Maetus, who effortlessly killed two monks assisting her and Ramza]].
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* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters. Its one of the main reasons the question whether or not she's dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
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* GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not cancelled, and Delita's up to something new.
* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters.Its It's one of the main reasons the question whether or not she's dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters.
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%%* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Alicia, Lavian, Dyana]]
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella, and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt Emperor]].]]
* MasterOfAll: Barbarath and Ramza's unique ability. Knight Gallant wasn't a class, it was a title. Barbaranth used whatever class abilities he felt like, ignoring the usual 2-class limit, as does Ramza.
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella, and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt Emperor]].]]
* MasterOfAll: Barbarath and Ramza's unique ability. Knight Gallant wasn't a class, it was a title. Barbaranth used whatever class abilities he felt like, ignoring the usual 2-class limit, as does Ramza.
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%%* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: [[SlashedThroat Alicia, Lavian, Dyana]]
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella,Lavian]] and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt Emperor]].Dyana.]]
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down, such as Ramza's abrupt discovery of the Gemini Zodiac Stone followed by it's effects on Symond. [[spoiler: One of the most evident situations was when Ramza, Arabella and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt Emperor]].]]
* MasterOfAll:Barbarath Barbaneth's and Ramza's unique ability. Knight Gallant wasn't a class, it was a title. Barbaranth Barbaneth used whatever class abilities he felt like, ignoring the usual 2-class limit, as does Ramza.
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella,
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down, such as Ramza's abrupt discovery of the Gemini Zodiac Stone followed by it's effects on Symond. [[spoiler: One of the most evident situations was when Ramza, Arabella and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt Emperor]].]]
* MasterOfAll:
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%%* {{Meido}}: Isamy
* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, [[spoiler:a knight force arrives and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell breaks loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oak's survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
* NoSell: For unknown reasons, [[spoiler:Ramza can shrug off Agrias's Zodiac Stone-powered hypnosis effect]].
* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, [[spoiler:a knight force arrives and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell breaks loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oak's survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
* NoSell: For unknown reasons, [[spoiler:Ramza can shrug off Agrias's Zodiac Stone-powered hypnosis effect]].
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Isamy.
* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, [[spoiler:a knight force arrives and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is then killed shortlyafter. afterwards. All hell breaks loose as the rest of the forces charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.escape in the chaos.]]
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: AgriasOak's Oaks' survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi]]. As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
* NoSell: For unknown reasons,[[spoiler:Ramza [[spoiler: Ramza can shrug off Agrias's Zodiac Stone-powered hypnosis effect]].
* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, [[spoiler:a knight force arrives and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is then killed shortly
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias
* NoSell: For unknown reasons,
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%%* RichesToRags: [[spoiler:Guinevere]]
* GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not canceled, and Delita's up to something new.
* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn does this. While not in a video game. He literally steals enemy equipment midbattle.
* GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not canceled, and Delita's up to something new.
* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn does this. While not in a video game. He literally steals enemy equipment midbattle.
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* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn doesthis. While this, while not in a video game. He literally steals enemy equipment midbattle.mid-battle.
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* JackOfAllTrades / MasterOfNone: Depending on how you look at it, Ramza's wide repertoire of class and personal skills may be a good thing or a bad thing.
* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Alicia, Lavian, Dyana]]
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* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. [[spoiler: Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, a knight force arrive and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell then broke loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oak's survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi.]]
** As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
* NoSell: [[spoiler: For unknown reasons Ramza can shrug off Agrias's Zodiac Stone powered hypnosis effect.]]
* MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. [[spoiler: Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, a knight force arrive and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell then broke loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oak's survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi.]]
** As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
* NoSell: [[spoiler: For unknown reasons Ramza can shrug off Agrias's Zodiac Stone powered hypnosis effect.]]
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* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oak's survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a
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* PhantomThief: A low key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal bread and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
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* PhantomThief: A low key low-key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal bread and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
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* UnholyHolySword: The Zodiac Stones, maybe. [[spoiler: Agrias used one repeatedly without turning into a Lucavi or turning evil.]]
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* CrowningMomentofAwesome: Ramza defeating [[spoiler: Mateus by casting Thundara twice on the swords impaled in it.]]
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* ThirtyXanatosPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not canceled, and Delita's up to something new.
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* ThirtyXanatosPileup: GambitPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not canceled, and Delita's up to something new.
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* InterfaceSpoiler: Character sheets show when Order members have hidden abilities not known to Ramza in character.
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* MasterOfAll: Barbarath and Ramza's unique ability. Knight Gallant wasn't a class, it was a title. Barbaranth used whatever class abilities he felt like, ignoring the usual 2-class limit, as does Ramza.
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* NoSell: [[spoiler: For unknown reasons Ramza can shrug off Agrias's Zodiac Stone powered hypnosis effect.]]
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* ThirtyXanatosPileup: The canon events were already a pile-up. Now Ramza's not running around flipping the metaphorical table, the War of the Lions has been postponed if not canceled, and Delita's up to something new.
* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn does this. While not in a video game. He literally steals enemy equipment midbattle.
* VideoGameStealing: Gauwyn does this. While not in a video game. He literally steals enemy equipment midbattle.
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* ButNotTooForeign: Cristiana. She can pass as an Ivalician, but only if people don't look too closely to see she also has features from the Far East.
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* DelayedReaction: Symond tends to take everything in stride, from [[spoiler: Ramza's last name]] to getting a Nat-20 critical find on a mission, but once it actually settles in what just happened, he WILL flip ([[RuleOfFunny comically, usually]].)
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* FlatWhat: Agrias' reaction when told [[spoiler: Louveria was transformed into a Lucavi by Pieces.]]
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* ImportantHaircut: In Kei's expanded lore, cutting one's hair is a big deal, and usually a sign for boys who mature to men once they cut their ponytail. Ramza cuts his as both a sign of maturity [[spoiler: and to better blend in when operating a sting on Lesalia]]. [[spoiler: Agrias also cuts her hair in the two and half months time she was on the run from pursuers]].
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* ActionSurvivor: Arabella. She's one of the stronger knights of the Lionsguard, but is rather ordinary compared to the likes of Ramza, Symond, and Agrias. She manages to survive the ambush in Orbonne, as well as [[spoiler: the battle against Maetus, who effortlessly killed two monks assisting her and Ramza]].
* BadassBookworm: Symond is the only other character (besides Ramza) to have the Academics skill, and is one of the most trusted advisers of the Eighth Order. His literacy is a big deal because most commoners like Gauwyn and Aran don't even get a chance of an education.
* BadassCrew: The Eighth Order.
* ActionSurvivor: Arabella. She's one of the stronger knights of the Lionsguard, but is rather ordinary compared to the likes of Ramza, Symond, and Agrias. She manages to survive the ambush in Orbonne, as well as [[spoiler: the battle against Maetus, who effortlessly killed two monks assisting her and Ramza]].
* BadassBookworm: Symond is the only other character (besides Ramza) to have the Academics skill, and is one of the most trusted advisers of the Eighth Order. His literacy is a big deal because most commoners like Gauwyn and Aran don't even get a chance of an education.
* BadassCrew: The Eighth Order.
* ButNotTooForeign: Cristiana. She can pass as an Ivalician, but only if people don't look too closely to see she also has features from the Far East.
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* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters. Its one of the main reasons the yuestion whether or not she's dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
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* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters. Its one of the main reasons the yuestion question whether or not she's dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
* {{Meido}}: Isamy
** As of Lesalia, [[spoiler: Agrias indeed survived, but it wasn't a happy reunion]].
* NoodleIncident: Orlandeau knows Barbaneth well enough that he usually causes trouble repeatedly. But he's shocked to not only see Marianne blow up a church with Meteor, but of the implication that she has done so before (understandable in that it was their first meeting at the time.)
* NoodleIncident: Orlandeau knows Barbaneth well enough that he usually causes trouble repeatedly. But he's shocked to not only see Marianne blow up a church with Meteor, but of the implication that she has done so before (understandable in that it was their first meeting at the time.)
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* ReallyGetsAround: In Kei's personal head canon, Barbaneth was a womanizer.womanizer.
* RichesToRags: [[spoiler: Guinevere]]
* WholesomeCrossdresser: A whole arc was devoted to Ramza disguised as a barmaid as part of a spy group.
* WideEyedIdealist: Aran is one of the more innocent members of the Eighth Order. [[spoiler: This is important because he was very much against the plans made for the Lesalia invasion, and was implied to be ready to quit after seeing the harsh realities of war via Dyana's death.]]
* RichesToRags: [[spoiler: Guinevere]]
* WholesomeCrossdresser: A whole arc was devoted to Ramza disguised as a barmaid as part of a spy group.
* WideEyedIdealist: Aran is one of the more innocent members of the Eighth Order. [[spoiler: This is important because he was very much against the plans made for the Lesalia invasion, and was implied to be ready to quit after seeing the harsh realities of war via Dyana's death.]]
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* INeedAFreakingDrink: Some of the more jaw dropping reveals promote this reaction to Ramza's superiors. As BlackoutSampler reader [=BlackoutSampler=] has put it, he is officially "Ivalice's Number One Reason to Become an Alcoholic".
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* INeedAFriggingDrink: INeedAFreakingDrink: Some of the more jaw dropping reveals promote this reaction to Ramza's superiors. As BlackoutSampler has put it, he is officially "Ivalice's Number One Reason to Become an Alcoholic".
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* INeedAFrigginDrink: INeedAFriggingDrink: Some of the more jaw dropping reveals promote this reaction to Ramza's superiors. As BlackoutSampler has put it, he is officially "Ivalice's Number One Reason to Become an Alcoholic".
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* ICallHerVera: Slyphie has a... ''close'' friendship towards her axes that she affectionately treat as sisters. Its one of the main reasons the yuestion whether or not she's dropped on her head as a baby is asked both in and out of universe.
* INeedAFrigginDrink: Some of the more jaw dropping reveals promote this reaction to Ramza's superiors. As BlackoutSampler has put it, he is officially "Ivalice's Number One Reason to Become an Alcoholic".
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* NeverFoundTheBody: One of the only things that points hope to [[spoiler: Agrias Oak's survival]]. The same is said about Queen Louveria, except [[spoiler: she transformed into, and died as, a Lucavi.]]
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* MêléeàTrois: The Orbonne Monastery. [[spoiler: Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, a knight force arrive and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell then broke loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
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* MêléeàTrois: MeleeATrois: The Orbonne Monastery. [[spoiler: Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, a knight force arrive and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell then broke loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
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* Crowning Moment of Awesome: Ramza defeating [[spoiler: Mateus by casting Thundara twice on the swords impaled in it.]]
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* Crowning Moment of Awesome: CrowningMomentofAwesome: Ramza defeating [[spoiler: Mateus by casting Thundara twice on the swords impaled in it.]]
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* Mêlée à Trois: MêléeàTrois: The Orbonne Monastery. [[spoiler: Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, a knight force arrive and demands for the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell then broke loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers. The assassins are forced to fight back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
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* Mêlée à Trois: The Orbonne Monastery. [[spoiler: Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, a knight force arrive and shout for teh Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing waht is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell broke loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers as teh assassins fight back, while Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
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* Mêlée à Trois: The Orbonne Monastery. [[spoiler: Just as Ramza's group is cornered by assassins, a knight force arrive and shout demands for teh the Monastery to surrender Ovelia, not knowing waht what is going on. The leading knight is killed shortly after. All hell then broke loose as the rest charge in, covered by archers as teh archers. The assassins are forced to fight back, while back and Ramza's group take this chance to escape.]]
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* PhantomThief: A low key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal food and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
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* PhantomThief: A low key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal food bread and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
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You realize that part with Gauwyn made it look like his crime was stealing a single loaf of bread?
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* PhantomThief: A low key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal a loaf of bread food and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
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* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella, and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt]].]]
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* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella, and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt]].Corrupt Emperor]].]]
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[[http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/stand-and-watch-them-fall-final-fantasy-tactics.264102/ Stand and Watch Them Fall]] is an on-going VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics Quest written by Kei and has quickly grown in popularity since July, 2013. The quest stars Ramza Beoulve, and takes place shortly after the events of [[WhamEpisode Fort Ziekden]] in the original game. Readers vote on what action Ramza takes, majority rule promotes the decision, and the votes are given narrative life that moves along the story. Kei also borrows a bit from VisualNovel/FateStayNight concerning stats and parameters, which may or may not help in rudimentary actions or battles.
The quest makes use of the UpdatedRelease script, written and read naturally well. Following Ramza, readers/voters are encouraged to make the best choices available to their now current status as knight commander of the Southern Sky, with a growing number of successes piling under our belts. But conspiracies lurk at every corner, and not just the Church and Lucavi.
!!Tropes associated to this quest
* BashBrothers: Barbaneth and Orlandeau during the Fifty Year War. Though the latter tends to be exasperated by the former's... behavior.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Siege of Lesalia was successful, but at the cost of Dyana's life.]]
* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting everyone from that battle.
* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Alicia, Lavian, Dyana]]
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella, and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt]].]]
* MagicKnight: Ramza balances between the two extremes when the situation calls for it.
* PhantomThief: A low key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal a loaf of bread and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
* ReallyGetsAround: In Kei's personal head canon, Barbaneth was a womanizer.
The quest makes use of the UpdatedRelease script, written and read naturally well. Following Ramza, readers/voters are encouraged to make the best choices available to their now current status as knight commander of the Southern Sky, with a growing number of successes piling under our belts. But conspiracies lurk at every corner, and not just the Church and Lucavi.
!!Tropes associated to this quest
* BashBrothers: Barbaneth and Orlandeau during the Fifty Year War. Though the latter tends to be exasperated by the former's... behavior.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Siege of Lesalia was successful, but at the cost of Dyana's life.]]
* FireForgedFriends: Nearly all the passengers en route to Zeltennia were forced to band together when attacked by the cursed Nelveska Island. After surviving Construct 7, Ramza eventually proves himself before getting his own knight order, consisting everyone from that battle.
* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler: Alicia, Lavian, Dyana]]
* MassOhCrap: Readers tend to do these when big situations go down. [[spoiler: The most evident was when Ramza, Arabella, and two monks were about to face [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII Maetus the Corrupt]].]]
* MagicKnight: Ramza balances between the two extremes when the situation calls for it.
* PhantomThief: A low key example, but Gauwyn managed to steal a loaf of bread and avoid the authorities for a ''year''. He was only caught because spymaster Justina brought him in herself, but Orran saw his potential reason enough to have him fight for the Southern Sky. The readers agreed.
* ReallyGetsAround: In Kei's personal head canon, Barbaneth was a womanizer.