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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Sloughing off years of accumulated fat from Robert's excessive hedonistic lifestyle takes a ''ridiculous'' amount of time. Age also certainly isn't helping his case either, as he notes how easier it was for him to work out when he was younger, combined with the fat he gained from years of inactivity. Granted, he's in ''much'' better shape than he was before and no longer is he morbidly overweight, but both Asha and Kevan have noted that while Robert is clearly putting in the bulk, he still has a bit of a belly from his previous lifestyle choices. Even many chapters later when Robert [[spoiler: goes to the Wall and inspect what's happening]], he's still carrying logs to help burn said fat.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Sloughing off years of accumulated fat from Robert's excessive hedonistic lifestyle takes a ''ridiculous'' amount of time. Age also certainly isn't helping his case either, as he notes how easier it was for him to work out when he was younger, combined with the fat he gained from years of inactivity. Granted, he's in ''much'' better shape than he was before and no longer is he morbidly overweight, but both Asha and Kevan have noted that while Robert is clearly putting in the bulk, he still has a bit of a belly from his previous lifestyle choices. Even many chapters later when Robert [[spoiler: goes to the Wall and inspect what's happening]], he's still carrying logs to help burn said fat.
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* DeusExMachina: While the Old Gods interfering is the base of the fic's premise, they do it so much, they pretty much dive into this trope. One might think that bringing Robb back in time would be enough, but that's just the beginning: the Starks know about the Others because the Old Gods flat-out told Ned about them through a vision; [[spoiler:Willas Tyrell gets his broken leg miraculously healed upon touching Otherbane; they kill Ramsay Snow through a wolf and a raven under their control; Master Aemon has his eyesight restored; Tyrion is told many times to go to Castle Black, where he finds both Rocktooth and the Warnings; [[PutOnABus and they put Melisandre on a bus to Essos]]]]. While the story tries to justify it on the grounds that they're desperate and they're now strong enough that they actually can, it still comes off a bit too pat. The author tried to remedy this by showing that the Old Gods intervene at [[BalancingDeathsBooks somebody else's expense]], but this falls flat when it's the ''antagonists'' who suffer the consequences of the gods' interference, always unwillingly: [[spoiler:the above mentioned death of Ramsay Snow happened in response to Robb being sent back in time, Maester Aemon's eyesight came at the cost of the High Sparrow losing his, etc]]. The only aversions of this [[spoiler:were Shireen Baratheon getting healed from her scars, since it was [[EquivalentExchange triggered by Patchface willingly offering his life]] in exchange to the Old Gods, and Net Stark being brought back from the brink of death after being stabbed by Euron Greyjoy as Lord Hightower likewise offered up his life in return.]].

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* DeusExMachina: While the Old Gods interfering is the base of the fic's premise, they do it so much, they pretty much dive into this trope. One might think that bringing Robb back in time would be enough, but that's just the beginning: the Starks know about the Others because the Old Gods flat-out told Ned about them through a vision; [[spoiler:Willas Tyrell gets his broken leg miraculously healed upon touching Otherbane; they kill Ramsay Snow through a wolf and a raven under their control; Master Aemon has his eyesight restored; Tyrion is told many times to go to Castle Black, where he finds both Rocktooth and the Warnings; [[PutOnABus and they put Melisandre on a bus to Essos]]]]. While the story tries to justify it on the grounds that they're desperate and they're now strong enough that they actually can, it still comes off a bit too pat. The author tried to remedy this by showing that the Old Gods intervene at [[BalancingDeathsBooks somebody else's expense]], but this falls flat when it's the ''antagonists'' who suffer the consequences of the gods' interference, always unwillingly: [[spoiler:the above mentioned death of Ramsay Snow happened in response to Robb being sent back in time, Maester Aemon's eyesight came at the cost of the High Sparrow losing his, etc]]. The only aversions of this [[spoiler:were Shireen Baratheon getting healed from her scars, since it was [[EquivalentExchange triggered by Patchface willingly offering his life]] in exchange to the Old Gods, and Net Ned Stark being brought back from the brink of death after being stabbed by Euron Greyjoy as Lord Hightower likewise offered up his life in return.]].
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* DeusExMachina: While the Old Gods interfering is the base of the fic's premise, they do it so much, they pretty much dive into this trope. One might think that bringing Robb back in time would be enough, but that's just the beginning: the Starks know about the Others because the Old Gods flat-out told Ned about them through a vision; [[spoiler:Willas Tyrell gets his broken leg miraculously healed upon touching Otherbane; they kill Ramsay Snow through a wolf and a raven under their control; Master Aemon has his eyesight restored; Tyrion is told many times to go to Castle Black, where he finds both Rocktooth and the Warnings; [[PutOnABus and they put Melisandre on a bus to Essos]]]]. While the story tries to justify it on the grounds that they're desperate and they're now strong enough that they actually can, it still comes off a bit too pat. The author tried to remedy this by showing that the Old Gods intervene at [[BalancingDeathsBooks somebody else's expense]], but this falls flat when it's the ''antagonists'' who suffer the consequences of the gods' interference, always unwillingly: [[spoiler:the above mentioned death of Ramsay Snow happened in response to Robb being sent back in time, Maester Aemon's eyesight came at the cost of the High Sparrow losing his, etc]]. The only aversion of this [[spoiler: was Shireen Baratheon getting healed from her scars, since it was [[EquivalentExchange triggered by Patchface willingly offering his life]] in exchange to the Old Gods]].

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* DeusExMachina: While the Old Gods interfering is the base of the fic's premise, they do it so much, they pretty much dive into this trope. One might think that bringing Robb back in time would be enough, but that's just the beginning: the Starks know about the Others because the Old Gods flat-out told Ned about them through a vision; [[spoiler:Willas Tyrell gets his broken leg miraculously healed upon touching Otherbane; they kill Ramsay Snow through a wolf and a raven under their control; Master Aemon has his eyesight restored; Tyrion is told many times to go to Castle Black, where he finds both Rocktooth and the Warnings; [[PutOnABus and they put Melisandre on a bus to Essos]]]]. While the story tries to justify it on the grounds that they're desperate and they're now strong enough that they actually can, it still comes off a bit too pat. The author tried to remedy this by showing that the Old Gods intervene at [[BalancingDeathsBooks somebody else's expense]], but this falls flat when it's the ''antagonists'' who suffer the consequences of the gods' interference, always unwillingly: [[spoiler:the above mentioned death of Ramsay Snow happened in response to Robb being sent back in time, Maester Aemon's eyesight came at the cost of the High Sparrow losing his, etc]]. The only aversion aversions of this [[spoiler: was [[spoiler:were Shireen Baratheon getting healed from her scars, since it was [[EquivalentExchange triggered by Patchface willingly offering his life]] in exchange to the Old Gods]].Gods, and Net Stark being brought back from the brink of death after being stabbed by Euron Greyjoy as Lord Hightower likewise offered up his life in return.]].
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Several times.

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* HormoneAddledTeenager: There is a brief moment with Jon focusing on [[MythologyGag a redheaded wildling he swears was a girl, very interested in a windmill]]. Robb slyly tells him he will have all the time he wants to find the girl again in the near future.

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There is a brief moment with where Jon focusing focuses on [[MythologyGag a redheaded wildling he swears was a girl, very interested in a windmill]]. Robb slyly tells him he will have all the time he wants to find the girl again in the near future.
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* BrokenFaceplate: During the battle at Harlaw, [[spoiler:Victarion Greyjoy]] is finally beaten (not killed) when a blow from Rodrik Harlaw shatters his helmet.


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* EmpathicEnvironment: The stormy weather at Pyke in Chapter 92 matches Victarion Greyjoy's foul mood when he argues with his brothers.
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* SourSupporter: Alliser Thorne. He was a Targaryen loyalist who took the black after Robert's Rebellion, thus harbouring a grudge for Robert and Ned alike, but after Ned began sending support for the much-beleaguered Wall, the Call being sent out, and seeing the threat with his own two eyes, his allegiance to the Starks has more or less solidified, but his opinion of them has grown... complicated. Especially after [[spoiler: Ned decides to tell him Jon's true parentage]].

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* SourSupporter: Alliser Thorne. He was a Targaryen loyalist who took the black after Robert's Rebellion, thus harbouring a grudge for Robert and Ned alike, but after Ned began sending support for the much-beleaguered Wall, the Call being sent out, and seeing the threat with his own two eyes, his allegiance to the Starks has more or less solidified, but his opinion of them has grown... complicated. Especially after [[spoiler: Ned decides to tell him Jon's true parentage]].parentage]] and [[spoiler: finding out about wildfire plot of Mad King Aerys II Targaryen]].

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* PragmaticVillainy: Tywin's [[spoiler: approval of Tyrion qualifies as this. Jamie & Cersei all but threw the Lannister name into the dirt no thanks to them getting caught having sex in the Broken Tower while Tyrion fought against the Others using the AncestralWeapon of the Lannisters as well as rescuing and marrying Dacey Surestone, the daughter of Torgen Surestone who is LovedByAll. Tyrion's the main reason why the Lannister name hasn't sunken even further due to his heroics being acknowledged by the Starks and unlike Tysha, Dacey is a woman of noble birth and not a commoner (and if Tywin were to treat Dacey the same way as Tysha, the entirety of the North would be out for his blood). Compared to the so-called Golden Twins, Tyrion's reputation is looking rather stellar at the moment, something Tywin acknowledges, even if it really pains him to do so hence why he's the heir to Casterly Rock]].

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Tywin's [[spoiler: approval of Tyrion qualifies as this. Jamie & Cersei all but threw the Lannister name into the dirt no thanks to them getting caught having sex in the Broken Tower while Tyrion fought against the Others using the AncestralWeapon of the Lannisters as well as rescuing and marrying Dacey Surestone, the daughter of Torgen Surestone who is LovedByAll. Tyrion's the main reason why the Lannister name hasn't sunken even further due to his heroics being acknowledged by the Starks and unlike Tysha, Dacey is a woman of noble birth and not a commoner (and if Tywin were to treat Dacey the same way as Tysha, the entirety of the North would be out for his blood). Compared to the so-called Golden Twins, Tyrion's reputation is looking rather stellar at the moment, something Tywin acknowledges, even if it really pains him to do so hence why he's the heir to Casterly Rock]].Rock]].
** Roose Bolton is still a loyal vassal of the Starks with no inclination of stabbing them in the back. Even he knows that with [[spoiler: the arrival of the Others, he can't exactly turn against the Starks, not when there's a war against creatures and legends not seen in centuries with all of Westeros on the line]].
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** Robb Stark and Val [[spoiler: Umber]] , especially after she svaed him from drunk Joffrey’s assassination attempt and him saving her from possessed-by-Others!Gregor Clegane/Mountain. They kissed. Eventually, she accepts his marriage proposal.

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** Robb Stark and Val [[spoiler: Umber]] , especially after she svaed saved him from drunk Joffrey’s assassination attempt and him saving her from possessed-by-Others!Gregor Clegane/Mountain. They kissed. Eventually, she accepts his marriage proposal.

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