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** Mind you, some of this seems to have been caused deliberately by an "[[TheChessmaster agent-in-place]]", whos mission seems to be making sure sure certain things happen.
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** Mind you, some of this seems to have been caused deliberately by an "[[TheChessmaster agent-in-place]]", whos whose mission seems to be making sure sure certain things happen.
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**Mind you, some of this seems to have been caused deliberately by an "[[TheChessmaster agent-in-place]]", whos mission seems to be making sure sure certain things happen.
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* ChekovsGun / DreamingOfThingsToCome: Chapter 29's reference [[spoiler: to a magical core exploding]] in nightmare form is ominous in the extreme. The accuracy of Harry's previous Nightmares doesn't help either.
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* ChekovsGun ChekhovsGun / DreamingOfThingsToCome: Chapter 29's reference [[spoiler: to a magical core exploding]] in nightmare form is ominous in the extreme. The accuracy of Harry's previous Nightmares doesn't help either.
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* CharacterDerailment: Snape. YourMileageMayVary.
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* CharacterDerailment: Snape. YourMileageMayVary. Possibly justified by the fact that the story was started well before [[HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]] was published.
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As of 12/15/2009, the story has been updated after nearly a year, and then put down again.
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As of 12/15/2009, the story has been updated after nearly a year, and then put down again. Partly because of the fairly long time between updates (several months, typically), and partly because Viridian decided to break from his usual schedule of alternating between stories in order to focus on the next Team 8 chapter. Now that that has been posted (as of 1/19/2011), it may or may not go back to normal again.
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* PsychicStatic: Luna's mind is a natural case of that.
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* CrazyAwesome: Luna is ten different types of this.
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* CrazyAwesome: Luna is ten different types of this.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: Harry eventually tells his friends that he's from the future and tearfully confesses that he's guilty of manipulating all of them. Cue group hug.]]
** Then Ginny tops it a chapter or two later with this line:
--->'''Ginny:''' We were more than friends, weren't we? In the future, that is.
--->'''Harry:''' Yeah.
--->'''Ginny:''' [[spoiler: ...Good.]]
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: Harry eventually tells his friends that he's from the future and tearfully confesses that he's guilty of manipulating all of them. Cue group hug.]]
** Then Ginny tops it a chapter or two later with this line:
--->'''Ginny:''' We were more than friends, weren't we? In the future, that is.
--->'''Harry:''' Yeah.
--->'''Ginny:''' [[spoiler: ...Good.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Luna's BrutalHonesty about [[spoiler: her attraction to Neville]] is made of this. For example, Luna doesn't understand aerial tag.
-->'''Luna:''' [[spoiler: What if I ''want'' Neville to catch me?]]
** From Chapter 38, Luna produces a Patronus...in the shape of a duck-billed platypus. When Ron congratulates her on having an imaginary animal for a Patronus, Hermione tells him that no, it's actually a real animal. He doesn't believe a word of it. Luna is completely straight faced, but Harry laughs so hard he almost passes out.
** From Chapter 27, "This ponce is Voldemort?" What makes this even more hilarious is that it's Ron who says it.
** From Chapter 34:
--->'''Hermione:''' What if you get struck by lightning?
--->'''Ron:''' Hope the broom doesn't explode between your legs?
-->'''Luna:''' [[spoiler: What if I ''want'' Neville to catch me?]]
** From Chapter 38, Luna produces a Patronus...in the shape of a duck-billed platypus. When Ron congratulates her on having an imaginary animal for a Patronus, Hermione tells him that no, it's actually a real animal. He doesn't believe a word of it. Luna is completely straight faced, but Harry laughs so hard he almost passes out.
** From Chapter 27, "This ponce is Voldemort?" What makes this even more hilarious is that it's Ron who says it.
** From Chapter 34:
--->'''Hermione:''' What if you get struck by lightning?
--->'''Ron:''' Hope the broom doesn't explode between your legs?
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** The thing with Snape started because Harry was able to answer all the questions Snape made in the first Potions class, as Harry was attempting to show Snape that he was good at Potions, but instead Snape got even angrier. It can hardly be Harry's fault when Snape gets furious over Harry possibly being any good at Potions.
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* CharacterDerailment: You don't get worse that Snape. [[spoiler: if you had Snape cursing like a Sailor the first five minutes you are doing it wrong]]. It could be argued that being a Fanfic it allow to re-interpret the Character and is an AU, in which case it was simply badly managed and surreal disconnect with the pre-canon, [[BuffySpeak non-time-travel story line... thing]].
** Snape is dealt with differently because Harry deals with him differently. Rather than being passive and easy to bully Harry constantly challenges Snape which further reminds him of his father. Yes, it was written before Deathly Hallows came out but it made Snape human enough to be able to make mistakes in his anger.
** Yes very true. The thing is that he acts with absolutely bat-shit insane reactions [[spoiler: (calling a student a Mudblood and threatening to break his wand for minor offense... under Dumbledore perview)]] that simply are too absurd for a half competent spy or proffesional teacher to do. It's the very anvilicious and unsubtle way to point him as a Bad guy that make him so flat.
** Snape is dealt with differently because Harry deals with him differently. Rather than being passive and easy to bully Harry constantly challenges Snape which further reminds him of his father. Yes, it was written before Deathly Hallows came out but it made Snape human enough to be able to make mistakes in his anger.
** Yes very true. The thing is that he acts with absolutely bat-shit insane reactions [[spoiler: (calling a student a Mudblood and threatening to break his wand for minor offense... under Dumbledore perview)]] that simply are too absurd for a half competent spy or proffesional teacher to do. It's the very anvilicious and unsubtle way to point him as a Bad guy that make him so flat.
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* CharacterDerailment: You don't get worse that Snape. [[spoiler: if you had Snape cursing like a Sailor the first five minutes you are doing it wrong]]. It could be argued that being a Fanfic it allow to re-interpret the Character and is an AU, in which case it was simply badly managed and surreal disconnect with the pre-canon, [[BuffySpeak non-time-travel story line... thing]].
** Snape is dealt with differently because Harry deals with him differently. Rather than being passive and easy to bully Harry constantly challenges Snape which further reminds him of his father. Yes, it was written before Deathly Hallows came out but it made Snape human enough to be able to make mistakes in his anger.
** Yes very true. The thing is that he acts with absolutely bat-shit insane reactions [[spoiler: (calling a student a Mudblood and threatening to break his wand for minor offense... under Dumbledore perview)]] that simply are too absurd for a half competent spy or proffesional teacher to do. It's the very anvilicious and unsubtle way to point him as a Bad guy that make him so flat.Snape. YourMileageMayVary.
** Snape is dealt with differently because Harry deals with him differently. Rather than being passive and easy to bully Harry constantly challenges Snape which further reminds him of his father. Yes, it was written before Deathly Hallows came out but it made Snape human enough to be able to make mistakes in his anger.
** Yes very true. The thing is that he acts with absolutely bat-shit insane reactions [[spoiler: (calling a student a Mudblood and threatening to break his wand for minor offense... under Dumbledore perview)]] that simply are too absurd for a half competent spy or proffesional teacher to do. It's the very anvilicious and unsubtle way to point him as a Bad guy that make him so flat.
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* HeroicSacrifice: While it became a recurrent occurrence in the Bad future, mention must go to [[spoiler: Ron, who polijuiced himself as Harry during a trap and ended shredded/tortured, Shacklebolt facing singlehandedly Voldemort to gain time for the Order and above all to MadEye Moody, who executed all the Death Eaters of Azkaban and rallied the guards to a last stand against Voldemort Forces to the point his catchphrase is considered taboo then on]]. Guys were Badass.
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* HeroicSacrifice: While it became a recurrent occurrence in the Bad future, mention must go to [[spoiler: Ron, who polijuiced himself as Harry during a trap and ended shredded/tortured, Shacklebolt facing singlehandedly Voldemort to gain time for the Order and above all to MadEye Moody, who executed all the Death Eaters of Azkaban and rallied the guards to a last stand against Voldemort Forces to the point his catchphrase is considered taboo then on]]. Guys were Badass.{{Badass}}.
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* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace: Mr. Weasley proves the inefficiency of a Magic Gun to Harry... by putting the gun in his head and pulling the trigger. The worst part? ''it was loaded and Mr. Weasley was not pulling the trigger with enough force''. It took [[RetiredBadass Harry]] several minutes to stop shacking.
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* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace: Mr. Weasley proves the inefficiency of a Magic Gun to Harry... by putting the gun in his head and pulling the trigger. The worst part? ''it was loaded and Mr. Weasley was not pulling the trigger with enough force''. It took [[RetiredBadass Harry]] several minutes to stop shacking.shaking.
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* WarIsHell:The alternative future war ended with [[spoiler:the virtual destruction of Magical Britain, the Dead of every single named character, the "helpful" invasion of the Americans and the great probability of the break of the masquerade]].
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* WarIsHell:The alternative future war ended with [[spoiler:the virtual destruction of Magical Britain, the Dead death of every single named character, the "helpful" invasion of the Americans and the great probability of the break of the masquerade]].
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* DesignatedHero: Harry. [[spoiler:Upon returning from the future, one of the first things he does is to make sure to ruin the Dursley's lives. They treated him like crap, and in this timeline ItGotWorse, but he's practically giddy during Chapter 22 when he learns that they lost their house.]]
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* WishFulfillment: One of the first thing Harry does is to make sure the Dursley's lives are ruined, and then he goes on to avoid most of the uncomfortable things Snape originally did in the novels. [[spoiler:Subverted: Pissing Snape off instead of sitting there and taking it turned out to have been a bad choice.]]
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* WishFulfillment: One of the first thing Harry does is to make sure get leverage against the Dursley's lives are ruined, Dursleys, and then he goes on to avoid most of the uncomfortable things Snape originally did in the novels. [[spoiler:Subverted: Pissing Snape off instead of sitting there and taking it turned out to have been a bad choice.]]
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* DesignatedHero: Harry. [[spoiler:Upon returning from the future, one of the first things he does is to make sure to ruin the Dursley's lives. They treated him like crap, and in this timeline ItGotWorse, but he's practically giddy during Chapter 22 when he learns that they lost their house.]]
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** As is the conversation Harry has with Sirius in Azkaban, combined with CrowningMomentofHeartwarming
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[[ViridianDreamsQuests]] are run out of his forum.
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[[ViridianDreamsQuests]] are run out of his forum.
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* TearJerker: Lots of Harry's memories, but his [[spoiler: talking things over with an imaginary version of Hermione after her death, to help him think things through]] got to ThisTroper.
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* TearJerker: Lots of Harry's memories, but his [[spoiler: talking things over with an imaginary version of Hermione after her death, to help him think things through]] got to ThisTroper.is very notable.
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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2636963/1/Harry_Potter_and_the_Nightmares_of_Futures_Past Harry Potter and the Nightmares of Futures Past]]'' is a PeggySue fic written by [[IHaveManyNames S'Tar'Kan / Viridian /]] [[FanNickname Evil Author Lord]], who also authored the equally-excellent {{Naruto}} AU ''{{Team 8}}''. The two stories are regarded by some as sister fics, as they both have large followings and are highly-regarded in each of their respective fandoms.
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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2636963/1/Harry_Potter_and_the_Nightmares_of_Futures_Past Harry Potter and the Nightmares of Futures Past]]'' is a PeggySue fic written by [[IHaveManyNames S'Tar'Kan / Viridian /]] [[FanNickname Evil Author Lord]], who also authored the equally-excellent {{Naruto}} AU ''{{Team ''FanFic/{{Team 8}}''. The two stories are regarded by some as sister fics, as they both have large followings and are highly-regarded in each of their respective fandoms.
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* BersekButton: shout for a instant kill when captured by Death Eaters [[spoiler: '''CONSTANT VIGILANCE''']]
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* HeroicSacrifice: While it became a recurrent occurrence in the Bad future, mention must go to [[spoiler: Ron, who polijuiced himself as Harry during a trap and ended shredded/tortured, Shacklebolt facing singlehandely singlehandedly Voldemort to gain time for the Order and above all to MadEye Moody, who executed all the Death Eaters of Azkaban and rallied the guards to a last stand against Voldemort Forces to the point his catchphrase is considered taboo then on]]. Guys were Badass.
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** Yes very true. The thing is that he acts with absolutely bat-shit insane reactions [[spoiler: (calling a student a Mudblood and treatening to break his wand for minor offense... under Dumbledore perview)]] that simply are too absurd for a half competent spy or proffesional teacher to do. It's the very anvilicious and unsubtle way to point him as a Bad guy that make him so flat.
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** Yes very true. The thing is that he acts with absolutely bat-shit insane reactions [[spoiler: (calling a student a Mudblood and treatening threatening to break his wand for minor offense... under Dumbledore perview)]] that simply are too absurd for a half competent spy or proffesional teacher to do. It's the very anvilicious and unsubtle way to point him as a Bad guy that make him so flat.
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* WarIsHell:The alternative future war ended with [[spoiler:the virtual destruction of Magical Britain, the Dead of every single named character, the "helpful" invasion of the Americans and the great probability of the break of the masquerade]].
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I actually removed that because if you read the trope page, Fridge Logic isn't allowed on main pages. I just didn't want to make an entire Just Bugs Me page for one discusion when I could take it to the discussion page and answer it there.
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* FridgeLogic: If Occlumency is so easy to learn, ''why didn't dumbledore use it during the war''? Or teached in Defense against dark arts in superior levels?. Almost all the characters learn to use it to near expert level by reading books and practicing a few hours every day. Why would americans came to help during the Second Magician War and not the other European Communities? How could it last so much time in obscurity of Muggle radars with the insane levels of Murder and colateral damage for years ''and the Ministry completely destroyed''? Why would Snape, a capable spy, act in such an obvious evil way to the point [[spoiler: it get him sacked]]?
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* * FridgeLogic: If Occlumency is so easy to learn, ''why didn't dumbledore use it during the war''? Or teached in Defense against dark arts in superior levels?. Almost all the characters learn to use it to near expert level by reading books and practicing a few hours every day. Why would americans came to help during the Second Magician War and not the other European Communities? How could it last so much time in obscurity of Muggle radars with the insane levels of Murder and colateral damage for years ''and the Ministry completely destroyed''? Why would Snape, a capable spy, act in such an obvious evil way to the point [[spoiler: it get him sacked]]?
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* FridgeLogic: If Occlumency is so easy to learn, ''why didn't dumbledore use it during the war''? Or teached in Defense against dark arts in superior levels?. Almost all the characters learn to use it to near expert level by reading books and practicing a few hours every day. Why would americans came to help during the Second Magician War and not the other European Communities? How could it last so much time in obscurity of Muggle radars with the insane levels of Murder and colateral damage for years ''and the Ministry completely destroyed''? Why would Snape, a capable spy, act in such an obvious evil way to the point [[spoiler: it get him sacked]]?
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** Yes very true. The thing is that he acts with absolutely bat-shit insane reactions [[spoiler: (calling a student a Mudblood and treatening to break his wand for minor offense... under Dumbledore perview)]] that simply are too absurd for a half competent spy or proffesional teacher to do. It's the very anvilicious and unsubtle way to point him as a Bad guy that make him so flat.
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* * FridgeLogic: If Occlumency is so easy to learn, ''why didn't dumbledore use it during the war''? Or teached in Defense against dark arts in superior levels?. Almost all the characters learn to use it to near expert level by reading books and practicing a few hours every day. Why would americans came to help during the Second Magician War and not the other European Communities? How could it last so much time in obscurity of Muggle radars with the insane levels of Murder and colateral damage for years ''and the Ministry completely destroyed''? Why would Snape, a capable spy, act in such an obvious evil way to the point [[spoiler: it get him sacked]]?
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* CharacterDerailment: You don't get worse that Snape. [[spoiler: if you had Snape cursing like a Sailor the first five minutes you are doint it wrong]]. It could be argued that being a Fanfic it allow to re-interpretet the Character and is an AU, in which case it was simply badly managed and surreal disconected with the pre-canon, [[BuffySpeak non-time-travel story line... thing]].
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* CharacterDerailment: You don't get worse that Snape. [[spoiler: if you had Snape cursing like a Sailor the first five minutes you are doint doing it wrong]]. It could be argued that being a Fanfic it allow to re-interpretet re-interpret the Character and is an AU, in which case it was simply badly managed and surreal disconected disconnect with the pre-canon, [[BuffySpeak non-time-travel story line... thing]]. thing]].
** Snape is dealt with differently because Harry deals with him differently. Rather than being passive and easy to bully Harry constantly challenges Snape which further reminds him of his father. Yes, it was written before Deathly Hallows came out but it made Snape human enough to be able to make mistakes in his anger.
** Snape is dealt with differently because Harry deals with him differently. Rather than being passive and easy to bully Harry constantly challenges Snape which further reminds him of his father. Yes, it was written before Deathly Hallows came out but it made Snape human enough to be able to make mistakes in his anger.
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* FridgeLogic: If Occlumency is so easy to learn, ''why didn't dumbledore use it during the war''? Or even as an extracurricular activity?. Seriously, almost all the characters learn to use it to near expert level by reading books and practicing a few hours every day. Why would americans came to help during the Second Magician War and not the other European Communities? How could it last so much time in obscurity of Muggle radars with the insane levels of Murder and colateral damage for years? Why would Snape, a capable spy, act in such an obvious evil way to the point [[spoiler: it get him sacked]]?
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* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace: Mr. Weasley proves the inefficency of a Magic Gun to Harry... by putting the gun in his head and pullin the trigger. The worst part? '' it was loaded and Mr. Weasley was not pulling the trigger with enough force''. It took [[RetiredBadass Harry]] several minutes to stop shacking.
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* IJustShotMarvinInTheFace: Mr. Weasley proves the inefficency inefficiency of a Magic Gun to Harry... by putting the gun in his head and pullin pulling the trigger. The worst part? '' it ''it was loaded and Mr. Weasley was not pulling the trigger with enough force''. It took [[RetiredBadass Harry]] several minutes to stop shacking.
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* SoOkayIsAverage: Is a grammatically good story, had interesting characterization, deep exploration of Magical racism and a few moments of Awesome, Funny and Heartwarming. But is also rather flat, one dimensional Villians with idiot balls glued to their backs, Derailment and Fillibuster to near toxic levels and use to much angst, sometimes badly managed.
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* FridgeLogic: If Occlumency is so easy to learn, ''why didn't dumbledore use it during the war''? Or even as an extracurricular activity?. Seriously, almost all the characters learn to use it to near expert level by reading books and practicing a few hours every day. Why would americans came to help during the Second Magician War and not the other European Communities? How could it last so much time in obscurity of Muggle radars with the insane levels of Murder and colateral damage for years? Why would Snape, a capable spy, act in such an obvious evil way to the point [[spoiler: it get him sacked]]?
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* SoOkayIsAverage: Is a grammatically good story, had interesting characterization, deep exploration of Magical racism and a few moments of Awesome, Funny and Heartwarming. But is also rather flat, one dimensional Villians with idiot balls glued to their backs, Derailment and Fillibuster to near toxic levels and use to much angst, sometimes badly managed.
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* PreAssKickingOneLiner: "Let's test out mum's handiwork, shall we?"
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* ChekovsGun / DreamingOfThingsToCome: This troper can't be the only one who finds Chapter 29's [[spoiler: references to reference [[spoiler:to a magical core exploding]] in nightmare form is ominous in the extreme. The accuracy of his Harry's previous Nightmares doesn't help either.
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** [[spoiler: Not to mention getting his wand "accidentally" broken by Harry, and replaced with one that actually works for him. Ditto for Ron.]]