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* BestForLast: Subverted. In the aftermath of an argument with the Valar, Finrod gives his supporters trinkets as a show of gratitude, saving his estranged fiancée Amarië for last. Unfortunately, because he takes way long to acknowledge her, he unintentionally sends the message that he didn't care for Amarië putting their ongoing feud and her devotion towards the gods aside for his sake. And he did not understand because she got so angry until his friends explained the issue to him.
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* FloweryElizabethanEnglish: The author chose to write the Eldar who never left Valinor speaking Shakesperean English. Notably, to catch the full scope and dissonance of it, there are dialects of it. Finrod's enraged wife regularly shouts in an over formal shade of it, Finarfin speaks a quieter, more restrained and less forced mode, Maiwe hardly uses any, being from a more rural region. Overlaps with YeOldeButcheredEnglishe, and is amazingly well done.
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** Manwe and Varda are the {{God}}-appointed King and Queen of Arda. They do not care about their own glory, are aware of their place as servants of Ilúvatar (to the point of consulting Ilúvatar for guidance on particularly thorny problems), are not afraid of asking other Ainur and even Eruhini for advice and their only desire is creating a paradise where the Children of Ilúvatar can live freely and happily, doing their best to govern the world as they think Ilúvatar would.
*** Slightly deconstructed, since Manwe had become so engrossed with repairing and healing Morgoth’s marring that when his brother feigned remorse and repentance, Manwe believed that maybe he was sincere.
** Finrod works hard to provide food and shelter for his people, cares sincerely for all of them and he would (and actually did) give his life for them.
** Finarfin became High King of the Noldor after the Rebellion. He never wanted or expected to be crowned king, but (unlike his brothers) he is good-natured, calm, prudent and willing to acknowledge his mistakes, and he and his wife try to rule the Noldor with fairness and wisdom. His brother Fingolfin admitted that his little brother was better king than him.
*** Slightly deconstructed, since Manwe had become so engrossed with repairing and healing Morgoth’s marring that when his brother feigned remorse and repentance, Manwe believed that maybe he was sincere.
** Finrod works hard to provide food and shelter for his people, cares sincerely for all of them and he would (and actually did) give his life for them.
** Finarfin became High King of the Noldor after the Rebellion. He never wanted or expected to be crowned king, but (unlike his brothers) he is good-natured, calm, prudent and willing to acknowledge his mistakes, and he and his wife try to rule the Noldor with fairness and wisdom. His brother Fingolfin admitted that his little brother was better king than him.
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** Manwe A central theme in this ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' fanfic. The main characters often discuss the nature of kingship and Varda are the {{God}}-appointed qualities required for being a good king, lord of leader.
** During one of those discussions, Fingolfing, High Kingand Queen of Arda. They do not care about Noldor, states a good king needs to make sacrifices for their own glory, are aware of their place as servants of Ilúvatar (to people, since without people there can't be any king.
--->'''Fingolfin:''' "Nay, lads, do you not see that duty does bind lord no less than liege, that a king's task may require him to die, if that death may save thepoint of consulting Ilúvatar for guidance on particularly thorny problems), are not afraid of asking other Ainur and even Eruhini for advice and their only desire folk he rules? Or, if there is creating a paradise where the Children of Ilúvatar no people, how can live freely and happily, doing their best to govern the world there be any King?"
** Poor parental skills aside, Elu Thingol is a very hands-off monarch whose authority is unquestioned because he lets his subjects do as theythink Ilúvatar would.
*** Slightly deconstructed, since Manwe had become so engrossed with repairing and healing Morgoth’s marring that when his brother feigned remorse and repentance, Manwe believed that maybe he was sincere.
please, as long as they aren't harming each other.
** Finrod is King of Nargothrond. He cares for his people and works hard to provide food and shelter forhis people, cares sincerely for all of them and he would (and actually did) give his life for them.
** Finarfinbecame High King of the Noldor after the Rebellion. He never wanted or expected to be crowned king, but (unlike his brothers) he is good-natured, calm, prudent and very benevolent, he's willing to acknowledge his mistakes, and he and his wife try tries to rule the Noldor with fairness and wisdom. His brother Fingolfin has admitted that his little brother was better king than him. him.
** During one of those discussions, Fingolfing, High King
--->'''Fingolfin:''' "Nay, lads, do you not see that duty does bind lord no less than liege, that a king's task may require him to die, if that death may save the
** Poor parental skills aside, Elu Thingol is a very hands-off monarch whose authority is unquestioned because he lets his subjects do as they
*** Slightly deconstructed, since Manwe had become so engrossed with repairing and healing Morgoth’s marring that when his brother feigned remorse and repentance, Manwe believed that maybe he was sincere.
** Finrod is King of Nargothrond. He cares for his people and works hard to provide food and shelter for
** Finarfin
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* ArcherArchetype: Beren practiced archery since he was a little boy.
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* ArcherArchetype: Beren practiced has been practicing archery since he was a little boy.toddler and stealth guerrilla warfare since he was a teenager. Skulking around the woods, shooting Morgoth's minions from afar and disappearing amongst the thicket was his routine for ten years. And he is not humble about his marksmanship.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: When the main characters explain to Maiwe what sickness means to Humans she remembers out loud she heard other Elves talking about "the Sickle Ones", at which point she is warned that ''is'' a racial slur. She's awfully sorry but Beren doesn't take offense since he knows she didn't mean it.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: When the main characters explain to Maiwe what sickness means to Humans she remembers out loud she heard other Elves talking about "the Sickle Sickly Ones", at which point she is warned that ''is'' a racial slur. She's awfully sorry but Beren doesn't take offense since he knows she didn't mean it.
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* CantArgueWithElves: A good number of elves -- mainly the Feanorian lot -- think that they are obviously better than humans… but elves are just as capable as men to commit acts of arrogance, pettiness, jealousy and iniquity.
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* OurElvesAreBetter: Tolkien [[UnbuiltTrope subverted it]] and so does this fic. A good number of elves -- mainly the Feanorian lot -- think that they are obviously better than humans… but elves are just as capable as men to commit acts of arrogance, pettiness, jealousy and iniquity.
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** Her bond with Beren helped Luthien during her duel with Morgoth. His love was a lifeline that grounded her and kept her from forgetting herself and getting entangled in her own charm. At the same time, it was something Morgoth could not pierce or understand, because he could not comprehend that someone challenged him not out of love and selflessness instead of pride, revenge or fury.
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** Her bond with Beren helped Luthien during her duel with Morgoth. His love was a lifeline that grounded her and kept her from forgetting herself and getting entangled in her own charm. At the same time, it was something Morgoth could not pierce or understand, because he could not comprehend that someone challenged him not out of love and selflessness instead of pride, revenge or fury.
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* {{Doorstopper}}: It clocks at 592,976 words on Archive of Our Own.
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* {{Doorstopper}}: It clocks at 592,976 words on An Archive of Our Own (AO3).
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The story can be found complete [[http://rustbucket.net/leithian/ here]] and in [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/11749854/chapters/26480991 Archive Of Our Own]]. The first chapters are stored in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/188360/Philosopher-At-Large FF.net]] [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm?stauthorid=21 and]] [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm several]] [[http://www.romenna.net/stories/author.cfm?RAID=6 more]] [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/A_Boy,_A_Girl,_%26_A_Dog:_The_Lay_of_Leithian_Dramatic_Script_Project archives]].
The author also wrote several spin-offs, narrating in greater detail and in prose some parts of the Lay: [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841190/1/Hunting Hunting]] (Beren and Shelob’s meeting), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841201/1/Terrible-Gifts Terrible Gifts]], [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/926635/1/Betrayals-Renunciations Betrayals, Renunciations]] (Finrod and his men’s stay in the Wizard’s Isle), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1047838/1/Shadow-and-Silver Shadow and Silver]] (Luthien and Huan defeat Sauron), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1182794/1/Fell-Knowledge Fell Knowledge]] (Beren and Luthien travel to Angband).
The author also wrote several spin-offs, narrating in greater detail and in prose some parts of the Lay: [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841190/1/Hunting Hunting]] (Beren and Shelob’s meeting), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841201/1/Terrible-Gifts Terrible Gifts]], [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/926635/1/Betrayals-Renunciations Betrayals, Renunciations]] (Finrod and his men’s stay in the Wizard’s Isle), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1047838/1/Shadow-and-Silver Shadow and Silver]] (Luthien and Huan defeat Sauron), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1182794/1/Fell-Knowledge Fell Knowledge]] (Beren and Luthien travel to Angband).
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The story can be found complete [[http://rustbucket.net/leithian/ here]] and in on [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/11749854/chapters/26480991 Archive Of Our Own]]. The first chapters are stored in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/188360/Philosopher-At-Large FF.net]] [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm?stauthorid=21 and]] [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm several]] [[http://www.romenna.net/stories/author.cfm?RAID=6 more]] [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/A_Boy,_A_Girl,_%26_A_Dog:_The_Lay_of_Leithian_Dramatic_Script_Project archives]].
The author also wrote several spin-offs, narrating in greater detail and in prose some parts of the Lay: [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841190/1/Hunting Hunting]] (Beren and Shelob’s meeting), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841201/1/Terrible-Gifts Terrible Gifts]], [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/926635/1/Betrayals-Renunciations Betrayals, Renunciations]] (Finrod and his men’s stay in the Wizard’s Isle), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1047838/1/Shadow-and-Silver Shadow and Silver]] (Luthien and Huan defeat Sauron), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1182794/1/Fell-Knowledge Fell Knowledge]] (Beren and Luthien travel toAngband).
Angband). These fics are also available on Archive of Our Own.
The author also wrote several spin-offs, narrating in greater detail and in prose some parts of the Lay: [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841190/1/Hunting Hunting]] (Beren and Shelob’s meeting), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/841201/1/Terrible-Gifts Terrible Gifts]], [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/926635/1/Betrayals-Renunciations Betrayals, Renunciations]] (Finrod and his men’s stay in the Wizard’s Isle), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1047838/1/Shadow-and-Silver Shadow and Silver]] (Luthien and Huan defeat Sauron), [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1182794/1/Fell-Knowledge Fell Knowledge]] (Beren and Luthien travel to
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''The Leithian Script'' is noteworthy for the HUGE amount of investigation and thought put on it. Unfortunately, [[DeadFic it was abandoned before completion]] in 2004.
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''The Leithian Script'' is noteworthy for the HUGE amount of investigation and thought put on it. Unfortunately, [[DeadFic it was abandoned before completion]] in 2004.
The story is complete, though the author’s notes for Act IV are only partial.
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* AndTheAdventureContinues: The story ends after the Valar have agreed that Beren and Lúthien will be returned to life as mortals in Beleriand, and after the elven couples in the Halls have reconciled, but just before Beren and Lúthien (still spirits in the Halls) go off to try to help the spirit of Carcharoth find healing.
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* ShroudedInMyth:
** Beren waged a ten-year-long one-man rebellion against Morgoth's forces overrunning his homeland. His heroic deeds generated countless stories whose veracity can't be assessed because, albeit all of them can't be true, the most unbelievable ones are actually accurate.
--->'''Beren:''' [between mouthfuls] "You can talk, I can listen. Am I so much weirder than my ancestors?"\\
'''Captain:''' "Well, let's see. Old 'Fetters' sent his top commander and an army of wolves into North Beleriand because the Orc-bands wouldn't go after you any more, and no one, friend or foe, would even try to claim the king's ransom on your head. So many stories are told about you that they can't all be true -- only the more improbable ones, apparently. And you wonder why people want to come and have a look at you?"
** Several human generations ago, Edrahil gave a domestic abuser a lesson by challenging him to a musical contest, after which he offered the harpist's wife to take her away from her emotionally abusive husband. Somehow that event gave birth to dozens of folk songs narrating a rather distorted tale of an Elf whose singing magic seduced women away from their families.
** Beren waged a ten-year-long one-man rebellion against Morgoth's forces overrunning his homeland. His heroic deeds generated countless stories whose veracity can't be assessed because, albeit all of them can't be true, the most unbelievable ones are actually accurate.
--->'''Beren:''' [between mouthfuls] "You can talk, I can listen. Am I so much weirder than my ancestors?"\\
'''Captain:''' "Well, let's see. Old 'Fetters' sent his top commander and an army of wolves into North Beleriand because the Orc-bands wouldn't go after you any more, and no one, friend or foe, would even try to claim the king's ransom on your head. So many stories are told about you that they can't all be true -- only the more improbable ones, apparently. And you wonder why people want to come and have a look at you?"
** Several human generations ago, Edrahil gave a domestic abuser a lesson by challenging him to a musical contest, after which he offered the harpist's wife to take her away from her emotionally abusive husband. Somehow that event gave birth to dozens of folk songs narrating a rather distorted tale of an Elf whose singing magic seduced women away from their families.
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** Although the Captain is a big offender, Finrod is even worse. In one scene one of his brothers says that the Valar are constantly making exceptions for him. Finrod disagrees and explains that he does things nobody else thought possible, and then he leaves the work of figuring it out to the gods.
** And in other scene Aegnor complains Finrod is explaining to Aüle and Yavanna - the Lord and Lady of Earth - how Earth is made and that is wrong. Elenwe slyly tells him that Finrod STILL has his questions answered, so that she does not believe that he is wrong.
** Although the Captain is a big offender, Finrod is even worse. In one scene one of his brothers says that the Valar are constantly making exceptions for him. Finrod disagrees and explains that he does things nobody else thought possible, and then he leaves the work of figuring it out to the gods.
** And in other scene Aegnor complains Finrod is explaining to Aüle and Yavanna - the Lord and Lady of Earth - how Earth is made and that is wrong. Elenwe slyly tells him that Finrod STILL has his questions answered, so that she does not believe that he is wrong.
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* FunetikAksent: Each tribe of Men and Elves have their own slang, ranging from the Valinorean Noldor's arcaic speech to the informal language used by human tribes. Differences between and within languages are often remarked, discussed (and sometimes mocked by some unpleasant characters):
-->'''Noldor Captain:''' [rueful] ""I'm betting that's not much use for firewood, and it's mighty unhandy for a dinner knife" -- [Haleth's] opinion of swords."\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [curious] "Did she really say it like that?"\\
'''Noldor Captain:''' [shaking his head] "No. I can't manage a Brethil accent properly at all."
-->'''Noldor Captain:''' [rueful] ""I'm betting that's not much use for firewood, and it's mighty unhandy for a dinner knife" -- [Haleth's] opinion of swords."\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [curious] "Did she really say it like that?"\\
'''Noldor Captain:''' [shaking his head] "No. I can't manage a Brethil accent properly at all."
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* GhostlyChill: When a disembodied soul touches a living, it feels like the air has become suddenly slightly colder. Likewise, the dead feels a slight sensation of warmth.
-->'''Warrior:''' What was it like, when you two intersected? [...] You and his Majesty's father -- we saw it when you were talking.\\
'''Beren:''' Oh. (glancing up at Finarfin) Not much. Like light, I guess, -- like when the sun bounces off something like a horse-brass or a sword, you know how you don't really feel it unless it's in your eyes, but you can tell sort of. For me at least.\\
'''Finarfin:''' (looking at the Warrior's shade) Of what matter is thy question?\\
'''Beren:''' What it felt like, when you tried to take the Ring from me. We were wondering -- earlier, that is -- what would happen if someone living hit one of us.\\
'''Finarfin:''' I did not strike thee, boy, nor did e'en attempt such.\\
'''Beren:''' No sir. We meant colliding in general as well -- even only by accident. Um, did it -- feel like anything to you? (pausing) If you're not offended for some reason by me asking that.\\
'''Finarfin:''' (shaking head) [...] -- Like to naught but to a shadow passed suddenly 'neath on summer's day, or to a chill air, that moveth off the water -- and to naught else.
-->'''Warrior:''' What was it like, when you two intersected? [...] You and his Majesty's father -- we saw it when you were talking.\\
'''Beren:''' Oh. (glancing up at Finarfin) Not much. Like light, I guess, -- like when the sun bounces off something like a horse-brass or a sword, you know how you don't really feel it unless it's in your eyes, but you can tell sort of. For me at least.\\
'''Finarfin:''' (looking at the Warrior's shade) Of what matter is thy question?\\
'''Beren:''' What it felt like, when you tried to take the Ring from me. We were wondering -- earlier, that is -- what would happen if someone living hit one of us.\\
'''Finarfin:''' I did not strike thee, boy, nor did e'en attempt such.\\
'''Beren:''' No sir. We meant colliding in general as well -- even only by accident. Um, did it -- feel like anything to you? (pausing) If you're not offended for some reason by me asking that.\\
'''Finarfin:''' (shaking head) [...] -- Like to naught but to a shadow passed suddenly 'neath on summer's day, or to a chill air, that moveth off the water -- and to naught else.
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* TouchTheIntangible: As per canon, souls are intangible. In the Halls of Mandos, living elves who are allowed to wander into can't touch the dead (right like elven shades aren't allowed to affect the embodied ones). Hence, Amarië and Finrod freak out briefly when the former is able to touch her dead husband. Finrod theorizes that it's due to married Elves being soul-bonded to each other.
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** Gandalf and Saruman appear, but they are called Nienna’s Apprentice and Aule’s Assistant respectively.
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* BullyingADragon: Aredhel constantly baits her husband Eol into angering her father Fingolfin, the greatest Elven warrior, renowned for hurting Morgoth in single combat. Fingolfin trounces Eol very, very painfully every single time, and still his son-in-law never fails to fall for it. It's theorized Eol's aware that his wife is goading him, but he's too proud to back down.
-->'''Fingolfin:''' Master of Nan Elmoth. Mark my words very well. -- Show our kinswoman and her story due respect, because I enjoy chopping you into pieces far too much for my own good.\\
'''Aredhel:''' [poisonously sweet] Darling, no one will think the worse of you for not facing the High King of the Noldor in single combat, again.\\
'''Eol:''' [calmly] I'm not afraid of your father.\\
'''Aredhel:''' [sighing exaggeratedly] Why must you insist on reinforcing everyone's impression that you're insane? I have a hard enough time as it is.
-->'''Fingolfin:''' Master of Nan Elmoth. Mark my words very well. -- Show our kinswoman and her story due respect, because I enjoy chopping you into pieces far too much for my own good.\\
'''Aredhel:''' [poisonously sweet] Darling, no one will think the worse of you for not facing the High King of the Noldor in single combat, again.\\
'''Eol:''' [calmly] I'm not afraid of your father.\\
'''Aredhel:''' [sighing exaggeratedly] Why must you insist on reinforcing everyone's impression that you're insane? I have a hard enough time as it is.
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* EarWorm: InUniverse. Edrahil doesn't like the working songs of the tribe of Beor because they're nonsensical, complicated tunes which you ''can't'' get out of your head. So he makes sure to hum them around people he dislikes.
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* EarWorm: InUniverse. Edrahil doesn't like the working songs of the tribe of Beor because they're nonsensical, complicated tunes which you ''can't'' get out of your head. So he makes sure to hum them around people he dislikes.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: When the main characters explain to Maiwe what sickness means to Humans she remembers out loud she heard other Elves talking about "the Sickle Ones", at which point she is warned that ''is'' a racial slur. She's awfully sorry but Beren doesn't take offense since he knows she didn't mean it.
-->'''Beren:''' [to the others, earnestly] She doesn't understand. How can she? No one who stayed has ever met us. You said that not even animals get sick here the way they do back home, there's no blight on crops, things don't grow wrong, they just grow until they get old and stop, or something eats them first -- they don't start dying while they're alive.\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [sudden understanding] That is what they meant, those I did overhear talking that are returned, when they spoke of the Sickly Ones --\\
'''Ranger:''' [fierce] You mustn't '''say''' that --\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [concerned] Is that unmannerly? Was that insult, then?\\
'''Beren:''' [shaking his head] Not from ''you'', no.
-->'''Beren:''' [to the others, earnestly] She doesn't understand. How can she? No one who stayed has ever met us. You said that not even animals get sick here the way they do back home, there's no blight on crops, things don't grow wrong, they just grow until they get old and stop, or something eats them first -- they don't start dying while they're alive.\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [sudden understanding] That is what they meant, those I did overhear talking that are returned, when they spoke of the Sickly Ones --\\
'''Ranger:''' [fierce] You mustn't '''say''' that --\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [concerned] Is that unmannerly? Was that insult, then?\\
'''Beren:''' [shaking his head] Not from ''you'', no.
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* ComicallyMissingThePoint/FanWorks: Two characters misunderstand Beren when he explains he's become more enlightened after climbing up the mountain Taniquetil and talking to Manwe and Varda.
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-->'''Finrod:''' Beren, what-- what's happened to you?\\
'''Beren:'''I-- Saw it. The World. Without the veils. [shakes his head] I can't -- it was -- there aren't words to tell of it, the view from Taniquetil--\\
'''Ranger:''' [confused] But that's not hard to describe. The hills look like slabs of jade, with silver for the rivers and lakes.\\
'''Third Guard:''' And one can see all the way to the coast, just as if it were a map.\\
'''Luthien:''' [but smiling] Shh!\\
'''Soldier:''' [understanding] Oh, he's being metaphorical, that's all.
-->'''Finrod:''' Beren, what-- what's happened to you?\\
'''Beren:'''I-- Saw it. The World. Without the veils. [shakes his head] I can't -- it was -- there aren't words to tell of it, the view from Taniquetil--\\
'''Ranger:''' [confused] But that's not hard to describe. The hills look like slabs of jade, with silver for the rivers and lakes.\\
'''Third Guard:''' And one can see all the way to the coast, just as if it were a map.\\
'''Luthien:''' [but smiling] Shh!\\
'''Soldier:''' [understanding] Oh, he's being metaphorical, that's all.
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-->'''Captain''': [sharply] I don't see anyone else volunteering to take up the job, do you?
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-->'''Apprentice''': [aside, bemused] Of all the things to specialize in -- worrying as a sideline!
-->'''Captain''':sideline!\\
'''Captain''': [sharply] I don't see anyone else volunteering to take up the job, do you?
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'''Captain''': [sharply] I don't see anyone else volunteering to take up the job, do you?
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* ThePowerOfLove: A couple struggling for their love’s sake succeeded where vast armies fighting throughout centuries in the name of revenge and hubris failed. Also, Beren stayed in the Halls of Mandos after dying -- instead of leaving the World -- just because Luthien told him to. Namo notes that he is defying the Laws of the universe by doing that. ThePowerOfLove IS powerful, indeed.
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* ThePowerOfLove: A couple struggling for their love’s sake succeeded where vast armies fighting throughout centuries in the name of revenge and hubris failed. Also, Beren stayed in the Halls of Mandos after dying -- instead of leaving the World -- just because Luthien told him to. Namo notes that he is defying the Laws of the universe by doing that. ThePowerOfLove IS powerful, indeed.
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* RebuiltPedestal: During an argument with the Valar, Beren complains that he and his clan lost everything while fighting Morgoth in the gods' behalf. After a conversation with Manwe, Varda and his patron goddess Yavanna, though, Beren comes to the understanding that the Valar really want and try to do right for everyone. Nonetheless, they aren't perfect, so they're wont to make mistakes and then struggle to fix them... the same as his folks back home and even himself. Beren decides he can't stay angry after that revelation.
-->'''Finrod:''' But you were-- answered. What was the Answer?\\
'''Beren:''' What I said-- they're just muddling along like us, making it up as we go.\\
'''Finrod:''' That... is essentially what I've been saying. All along. For great years.\\
'''Beren:''' Yeah, but I didn't get it before.\\
'''Finrod:''' But-- how does that answer your outrage? How does that relieve your mind at all? I don't "get it," I fear.\\
'''Beren:''' Don't you, Sir? I thought for sure you would.\\
'''Finrod:''' [ragged laugh] I know what you're saying -- that we your lords made our mistakes and led you into danger and and failed to protect you when Bauglir struck, even as I erred and failed in my attempts to save you, and still despite all that you loved me no less, for being powerless, but --\\
'''Beren:''' [cutting him off, roughly] Not in spite of-- Because. And all the more. [clearing his throat] So. They're just a bunch of poor bastards struggling along to do the right thing, same as me. I can feel for that. Respect it too. Kind of makes it hard to stay angry, though.
-->'''Finrod:''' But you were-- answered. What was the Answer?\\
'''Beren:''' What I said-- they're just muddling along like us, making it up as we go.\\
'''Finrod:''' That... is essentially what I've been saying. All along. For great years.\\
'''Beren:''' Yeah, but I didn't get it before.\\
'''Finrod:''' But-- how does that answer your outrage? How does that relieve your mind at all? I don't "get it," I fear.\\
'''Beren:''' Don't you, Sir? I thought for sure you would.\\
'''Finrod:''' [ragged laugh] I know what you're saying -- that we your lords made our mistakes and led you into danger and and failed to protect you when Bauglir struck, even as I erred and failed in my attempts to save you, and still despite all that you loved me no less, for being powerless, but --\\
'''Beren:''' [cutting him off, roughly] Not in spite of-- Because. And all the more. [clearing his throat] So. They're just a bunch of poor bastards struggling along to do the right thing, same as me. I can feel for that. Respect it too. Kind of makes it hard to stay angry, though.
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* EarWorm: InUniverse. Edrahil doesn't like the working songs of the tribe of Beor because they're nonsensical, complicated tunes which you ''can't'' get out of your head. So he makes sure to hum them around people he dislikes.
-->'''Beren:''' Well, there are words, only nobody knows what they mean any more. They don't even mean anything in our Old Tongue. There are a lot of working songs like that. And they all sound kind of the same, but they're different. So the threshing song is actually the reaping song done backwards. They seem really easy to sing, but they're not easy to get right, and if you mix it up you have to start over, and your friends throw chaff at you for breaking the changes because if one person gets off then everyone loses their place. Lord Edrahil absolutely hates them, on account of how they're boring and complicated at the same time.\\
'''Steward:''' You left out the fact that once one hears one such -- tune, one cannot banish it from memory.\\
'''Captain:''' And you've left out the fact that you made certain that someone was humming it, in response to your peevish reminiscences, just when the Warden of Aglon was happening along to scoff at Himself for having been set down by Amarie.\\
'''Beren:''' See, that's humor-at-someone's-expense.
-->'''Beren:''' Well, there are words, only nobody knows what they mean any more. They don't even mean anything in our Old Tongue. There are a lot of working songs like that. And they all sound kind of the same, but they're different. So the threshing song is actually the reaping song done backwards. They seem really easy to sing, but they're not easy to get right, and if you mix it up you have to start over, and your friends throw chaff at you for breaking the changes because if one person gets off then everyone loses their place. Lord Edrahil absolutely hates them, on account of how they're boring and complicated at the same time.\\
'''Steward:''' You left out the fact that once one hears one such -- tune, one cannot banish it from memory.\\
'''Captain:''' And you've left out the fact that you made certain that someone was humming it, in response to your peevish reminiscences, just when the Warden of Aglon was happening along to scoff at Himself for having been set down by Amarie.\\
'''Beren:''' See, that's humor-at-someone's-expense.
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* WantsAPrizeforBasicDecency: During an argument, Beren demands expressions of gratitude from the Valar for fighting Morgoth relentlessly and never joining him despite losing everything. Namo counters that refraining from betraying your freely sworn duty by joining the GodOfEvil isn't exactly praiseworthy, and Beren grudgingly concedes the point (he still complains, though, that his tribe got nothing for all their pains except a "that was what you should have been doing, fighting the Enemy, there isn't any other legitimate option"):
-->'''Namo:''' Correct me if I have misunderstood the information that's been given me, but was not your family tasked to guard the southern border of Melkor's territory and prevent his followers from committing crimes in that area? Was that not the price of those lands which your people were given?\\
[after a moment Beren nods, conceding the point]\\
'''Namo:''' And was not the particular mandate of the House of Beor to guard your tribe against predation? You were their lords, were you not?\\
[resigned, Beren nods again]\\
[...]\\
'''Beren:''' But I didn't have to. I could have gone off someplace safer. Or I could have made peace with the Lord of Fetters, and ruled as his vassal instead.\\
'''Namo:''' If it is one's duty to protect the innocent -- a specific duty, beyond that common to all Good folk -- and it both given and accepted, then what is due to such a one who neglects that duty? Blame, or indifference?\\
'''Beren:''' [quietly] Blame.\\
'''Namo:''' Do you really think that refraining from blameworthy actions is enough to warrant praise?\\
[pause]\\
'''Beren:''' No, Sir.
-->'''Namo:''' Correct me if I have misunderstood the information that's been given me, but was not your family tasked to guard the southern border of Melkor's territory and prevent his followers from committing crimes in that area? Was that not the price of those lands which your people were given?\\
[after a moment Beren nods, conceding the point]\\
'''Namo:''' And was not the particular mandate of the House of Beor to guard your tribe against predation? You were their lords, were you not?\\
[resigned, Beren nods again]\\
[...]\\
'''Beren:''' But I didn't have to. I could have gone off someplace safer. Or I could have made peace with the Lord of Fetters, and ruled as his vassal instead.\\
'''Namo:''' If it is one's duty to protect the innocent -- a specific duty, beyond that common to all Good folk -- and it both given and accepted, then what is due to such a one who neglects that duty? Blame, or indifference?\\
'''Beren:''' [quietly] Blame.\\
'''Namo:''' Do you really think that refraining from blameworthy actions is enough to warrant praise?\\
[pause]\\
'''Beren:''' No, Sir.
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The story can be found here: [[http://rustbucket.net/leithian/ link]], [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/188360/Philosopher-At-Large link]], [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm?stauthorid=21 link]], [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm link]], [[http://www.romenna.net/stories/author.cfm?RAID=6 link]], [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/A_Boy,_A_Girl,_%26_A_Dog:_The_Lay_of_Leithian_Dramatic_Script_Project link]] and [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/11749854/chapters/26480991 link]]. The first and last links have most of the chapters. Neither of the other links has all chapters.
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The story can be found here: complete [[http://rustbucket.net/leithian/ link]], here]] and in [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/11749854/chapters/26480991 Archive Of Our Own]]. The first chapters are stored in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/188360/Philosopher-At-Large link]], FF.net]] [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm?stauthorid=21 link]], and]] [[http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/story_sort.cfm link]], several]] [[http://www.romenna.net/stories/author.cfm?RAID=6 link]], more]] [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/A_Boy,_A_Girl,_%26_A_Dog:_The_Lay_of_Leithian_Dramatic_Script_Project link]] and [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/11749854/chapters/26480991 link]]. The first and last links have most of the chapters. Neither of the other links has all chapters.
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* FurAgainstFang: Werewolves and wampires do NOT get along in this setting. Werewolves despised vampires like “rats with wings” and vampires regard wolves as big bullies.
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* FurAgainstFang: Werewolves and wampires vampires do NOT get along in this setting. the Middle-Earth. Werewolves despised call vampires like “rats "rats with wings” wings" and vampires regard wolves as big bullies.bullies.
* GallowsHumor: Elves who have taken part in the Beleriand Wars against Morgoth are fond of gallows humor. Valinorean elves aren't, and hearing other elves joking about death leaves them rather puzzled.
-->'''First Guard:''' [earnestly explaining] It's funny the way that it would be if you were killed in battle but then your opponent tripped over you and stabbed himself by accident with his own sword.\\
[longish pause]\\
'''Finarfin:''' And that -- thou deemst diversion?\\
[Nerdanel doesn't comment, but looks rather nauseated]\\
'''First Guard:''' Er... well, it wouldn't make up for being sent here, but -- it would be sort of ironic justice, Sir.\\
[another long pause]\\
'''Finrod:''' One more thing to make a mental note of, Edrahil -- battlefield humour doesn't go over well at all, at home.\\
[his friend shakes his head in grave agreement]\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [thoughtful frown] It would be amusing, if only no one died.
* GallowsHumor: Elves who have taken part in the Beleriand Wars against Morgoth are fond of gallows humor. Valinorean elves aren't, and hearing other elves joking about death leaves them rather puzzled.
-->'''First Guard:''' [earnestly explaining] It's funny the way that it would be if you were killed in battle but then your opponent tripped over you and stabbed himself by accident with his own sword.\\
[longish pause]\\
'''Finarfin:''' And that -- thou deemst diversion?\\
[Nerdanel doesn't comment, but looks rather nauseated]\\
'''First Guard:''' Er... well, it wouldn't make up for being sent here, but -- it would be sort of ironic justice, Sir.\\
[another long pause]\\
'''Finrod:''' One more thing to make a mental note of, Edrahil -- battlefield humour doesn't go over well at all, at home.\\
[his friend shakes his head in grave agreement]\\
'''Teler Maid:''' [thoughtful frown] It would be amusing, if only no one died.
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* NotHyperbole: Luthien tells that Morgoth’s vampires have iron claws. Aman elves think that she merely means that their claws are tough… until Luthien explains that they are made of actual iron.
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* NotHyperbole: NotHyperbole:
** Luthientells that Morgoth’s mentions Morgoth's vampires have iron claws. Aman claws, and Valinorean elves think that she merely means that their claws are tough… tough, until Luthien she explains that they are they're made of from actual iron.iron.
** In the fourth act, Edrahil states three words is all the Captain needs to prove he is crazy. His colleague argues the Steward is exaggerating things since three words can't possibly be enough to give your nuttiness away. The Steward retorts with what the Captain said when they were saved from death's door by the arrival of reinforcements during the Sudden Flame: "Happy New Year".
** Luthien
** In the fourth act, Edrahil states three words is all the Captain needs to prove he is crazy. His colleague argues the Steward is exaggerating things since three words can't possibly be enough to give your nuttiness away. The Steward retorts with what the Captain said when they were saved from death's door by the arrival of reinforcements during the Sudden Flame: "Happy New Year".
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* DoorStopper: The story has few chapters, but they are loooooooong.
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* DoorStopper: The story has few chapters, but they are loooooooong.{{Doorstopper}}: It clocks at 560,494 words on Fanfiction.net. And that is only a small fraction of the story!
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* KillTheGod: Luthien fought Dark lords, brought an enemy fortress down with ThePowerOfRock and bested the GodOfEvil in a duel.
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* KillTheGod: Luthien fought Dark lords, brought an enemy fortress down with ThePowerOfRock and bested the GodOfEvil in a duel.
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* DontYouDarePityMe: Luthien has this reaction from Ëol when she probes his mind and realizes how broken he is.
-->'''Luthien''': [sad] I'm sorry. [tears are starting down her face again, but there is no uncertainty or weakness in her voice] You should have asked for help.
-->'''Eol''': [clipped] I neither wanted nor needed your parents' pity.
-->'''Luthien''': [matter-of-fact] I wish I could help you.
-->'''Eol''': I won't take yours either, girl.
-->'''Luthien''': [same tone] I know.
-->'''Luthien''': [sad] I'm sorry. [tears are starting down her face again, but there is no uncertainty or weakness in her voice] You should have asked for help.
-->'''Eol''': [clipped] I neither wanted nor needed your parents' pity.
-->'''Luthien''': [matter-of-fact] I wish I could help you.
-->'''Eol''': I won't take yours either, girl.
-->'''Luthien''': [same tone] I know.
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* DontYouDarePityMe: Luthien has this reaction from Ëol when she probes his mind and realizes how DontYouDarePityMe:
** Eol is broken but heis.
-->'''Luthien''':refuses to be helped.
--->'''Luthien''': [sad] I'm sorry. [tears are starting down her face again, but there is no uncertainty or weakness in her voice] You should have asked forhelp.
-->'''Eol''':help.\\
'''Eol''': [clipped] I neither wanted nor needed your parents'pity.
-->'''Luthien''':pity.\\
'''Luthien''': [matter-of-fact] I wish I could helpyou.
-->'''Eol''':you.\\
'''Eol''': I won't take yours either,girl.
-->'''Luthien''':girl.\\
'''Luthien''': [same tone] Iknow.know.
** Defied -as befitting a story based on Tolkien's works-. In the backstory, Edrahil didn't like being pitied by his colleague -after Edrahil let slip he considers himself a failure who ruined his relationship with his life's love-, but he accepted the Captain's mercy anyway, and that was the beginning of their friendship.
--->'''Steward:''' I don't want your pity.\\
'''Captain:''' I know. I'm sorry.\\
'''Steward:''' Then since you will not rescind it, I must thank you for it.
** Eol is broken but he
-->'''Luthien''':
--->'''Luthien''': [sad] I'm sorry. [tears are starting down her face again, but there is no uncertainty or weakness in her voice] You should have asked for
-->'''Eol''':
'''Eol''': [clipped] I neither wanted nor needed your parents'
-->'''Luthien''':
'''Luthien''': [matter-of-fact] I wish I could help
-->'''Eol''':
'''Eol''': I won't take yours either,
-->'''Luthien''':
'''Luthien''': [same tone] I
** Defied -as befitting a story based on Tolkien's works-. In the backstory, Edrahil didn't like being pitied by his colleague -after Edrahil let slip he considers himself a failure who ruined his relationship with his life's love-, but he accepted the Captain's mercy anyway, and that was the beginning of their friendship.
--->'''Steward:''' I don't want your pity.\\
'''Captain:''' I know. I'm sorry.\\
'''Steward:''' Then since you will not rescind it, I must thank you for it.
