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* ''DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' deserves a mention for its fanbase's inter-medium rivalry with that of pen-and-paper DungeonsAndDragons. The reasons for the dispute are varied and the disdain is not universal (some people [[FriendlyFandoms enjoy both]]), but common criticisms include the game not emulating the experience of a D&D campaign well enough, being too derivative of WorldOfWarcraft/other MMO's in general, having too much pay-to-unlock content[[hottip:*:most of which can be unlocked in-game on a per server basis free of charge, but that rarely factors in.]], and so on.

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* ''DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' deserves a mention for its fanbase's inter-medium rivalry with that of pen-and-paper DungeonsAndDragons. The reasons for the dispute are varied and the disdain is not universal (some people [[FriendlyFandoms enjoy both]]), but common criticisms include the game not emulating the experience of a D&D campaign well enough, being too derivative of WorldOfWarcraft/other MMO's in general, having too much pay-to-unlock content[[hottip:*:most of which can be unlocked in-game on a per server basis free of charge, but that rarely factors in.]], and so on.on.
* Zynga vs Kabam on Facebook. Especially with players of games like Kabam's Kingdoms of Camelot who look down on FarmVille and its siblings. "If you don't want to get attacked,go play FarmVille."
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* ''SilentHill'' fans vs. ''ResidentEvil'' fans.

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* ''SilentHill'' fans vs. ''ResidentEvil'' ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' fans.
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* The "classic" ''VideoGame/SpyroTheDragon'' fans vs. ''[[TheLegendOfSpyroTrilogy Legend of Spyro]]'' fans. Classic fans will rub off making the ''Legend'' fans look like idiots who'll buy anything while the other side says the Classic fans are immature losers who are afraid of trying something new. It can get rather ridiculous watching the fights go on, especially [[FanDumb when people start assuming things about how video games get developed and get sold]]. As of 2011 though, both sides are willing to make an EnemyMine against ''VideoGame/{{Skylanders}}'' just for its Spyro character design ''alone''. (Kotick's reputation among gamers doesn't help.)

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* The "classic" ''VideoGame/SpyroTheDragon'' fans vs. ''[[TheLegendOfSpyroTrilogy ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro Legend of Spyro]]'' fans. Classic fans will rub off making the ''Legend'' fans look like idiots who'll buy anything while the other side says the Classic fans are immature losers who are afraid of trying something new. It can get rather ridiculous watching the fights go on, especially [[FanDumb when people start assuming things about how video games get developed and get sold]]. As of 2011 though, both sides are willing to make an EnemyMine against ''VideoGame/{{Skylanders}}'' just for its Spyro character design ''alone''. (Kotick's reputation among gamers doesn't help.)
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** Any ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' game vs. ''[[SegaSuperstars Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing]]'' vs. ''[[CrashBandicoot Crash Team Racing]]'' vs. ''DiddyKongRacing'' vs. ''ModNationRacers'' for domination of the kart racer genre.

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** Any ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' game vs. ''[[SegaSuperstars Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing]]'' vs. ''[[CrashBandicoot Crash Team Racing]]'' ''Videogame/CrashTeamRacing'' vs. ''DiddyKongRacing'' vs. ''ModNationRacers'' for domination of the kart racer genre.



* Much like the ''VideoGame/SpyroTheDragon'' example above, ''CrashBandicoot'' has rivalries between people who accept all of the games, people who like everything up until the Radical Entertainment games, people who ''hate'' anything post-Naughty Dog, and people who like the Radical games but don't like the rest. It isn't pretty

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* Much like the ''VideoGame/SpyroTheDragon'' example above, ''CrashBandicoot'' ''Franchise/CrashBandicoot'' has rivalries between people who accept all of the games, people who like everything up until the Radical Entertainment games, people who ''hate'' anything post-Naughty Dog, and people who like the Radical games but don't like the rest. It isn't pretty
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* The "classic" ''SpyroTheDragon'' fans vs. ''[[TheLegendOfSpyroTrilogy Legend of Spyro]]'' fans. Classic fans will rub off making the ''Legend'' fans look like idiots who'll buy anything while the other side says the Classic fans are immature losers who are afraid of trying something new. It can get rather ridiculous watching the fights go on, especially [[FanDumb when people start assuming things about how video games get developed and get sold]]. As of 2011 though, both sides are willing to make an EnemyMine against ''SkylandersSpyrosAdventure'' just for its Spyro character design ''alone''. (Kotick's reputation among gamers doesn't help.)

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* The "classic" ''SpyroTheDragon'' ''VideoGame/SpyroTheDragon'' fans vs. ''[[TheLegendOfSpyroTrilogy Legend of Spyro]]'' fans. Classic fans will rub off making the ''Legend'' fans look like idiots who'll buy anything while the other side says the Classic fans are immature losers who are afraid of trying something new. It can get rather ridiculous watching the fights go on, especially [[FanDumb when people start assuming things about how video games get developed and get sold]]. As of 2011 though, both sides are willing to make an EnemyMine against ''SkylandersSpyrosAdventure'' ''VideoGame/{{Skylanders}}'' just for its Spyro character design ''alone''. (Kotick's reputation among gamers doesn't help.)



* Much like the ''SpyroTheDragon'' example above, ''CrashBandicoot'' has rivalries between people who accept all of the games, people who like everything up until the Radical Entertainment games, people who ''hate'' anything post-Naughty Dog, and people who like the Radical games but don't like the rest. It isn't pretty

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* Much like the ''SpyroTheDragon'' ''VideoGame/SpyroTheDragon'' example above, ''CrashBandicoot'' has rivalries between people who accept all of the games, people who like everything up until the Radical Entertainment games, people who ''hate'' anything post-Naughty Dog, and people who like the Radical games but don't like the rest. It isn't pretty
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*** It's out, more flame wars ensued
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** Due to both series' {{Mission Pack Sequel}}s, Music/{{Metallica}} vs. TheBeatles is an easy way to start an argument between fans of not those two bands, but rather of said video game series. This despite the fact that both bands are completely different.

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** Due to both series' {{Mission Pack Sequel}}s, Music/{{Metallica}} vs. TheBeatles Music/TheBeatles is an easy way to start an argument between fans of not those two bands, but rather of said video game series. This despite the fact that both bands are completely different.
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** Recently, there seems to be a group of ''Crash'' fans who hate other fans who like ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', even if the hatred is pretty one sided. That is, until you realise the main forum to like ''Friendship is Magic'' already has a mixed reputation among fans...

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** Recently, there seems to be a group of ''Crash'' fans who hate other fans who like ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', even if the hatred is pretty one sided. That is, until you realise the main forum to like ''Friendship is Magic'' already has a mixed reputation among fans...fans...
* ''DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'' deserves a mention for its fanbase's inter-medium rivalry with that of pen-and-paper DungeonsAndDragons. The reasons for the dispute are varied and the disdain is not universal (some people [[FriendlyFandoms enjoy both]]), but common criticisms include the game not emulating the experience of a D&D campaign well enough, being too derivative of WorldOfWarcraft/other MMO's in general, having too much pay-to-unlock content[[hottip:*:most of which can be unlocked in-game on a per server basis free of charge, but that rarely factors in.]], and so on.
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** And you can toss fans of the ''{{X-wing}}'' series in for good measure. The fan rivalry between ''WingCommander'' and ''X-wing'' especially got quite heated.

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** And you can toss fans of the ''{{X-wing}}'' series in for good measure. The fan rivalry between ''WingCommander'' ''VideoGame/WingCommander'' and ''X-wing'' especially got quite heated.
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** [[VideoGame/MegaMan Classic]] timeline fans vs. the ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' timeline. Though the latter is actually fairly faithful to the former in terms of themes, people who like the old-school, NintendoHard games see the Network timeline as an attempt to woo over fans of games like ''Pokémon'' and ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}''.

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** [[VideoGame/MegaMan Classic]] timeline fans vs. the ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' timeline. Though the latter is actually fairly faithful to the former in terms of themes, people who like the old-school, NintendoHard games see the Network timeline as an attempt to woo over fans of games like ''Pokémon'' and ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}''.''Franchise/YuGiOh''.
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* ''{{Touhou}}'' fandom gets some hate from the more general ShootEmUp fandom for not focusing on the games, and the games themselves being mechanically simplistic. When the Touhou fans actually notice, they generally respond that the other games have boring, ugly patterns and mediocre writing.

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* ''{{Touhou}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' fandom gets some hate from the more general ShootEmUp fandom for not focusing on the games, and the games themselves being mechanically simplistic. When the Touhou fans actually notice, they generally respond that the other games have boring, ugly patterns and mediocre writing.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Torchlight}} 2'' and ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'' fans are already at each other's throats despite both games still being in development (D3 has opened for public beta testing). Though Runic Games is keeping mum, every new Blizzard announcement has invariably led to someone mentioning TL2 and triggering a massive FlameWar.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Torchlight}} 2'' ''VideoGame/TorchlightII'' and ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'' fans are already at each other's throats despite both games still being in development (D3 has opened for public beta testing). Though Runic Games is keeping mum, every new Blizzard announcement has invariably led to someone mentioning TL2 and triggering a massive FlameWar.
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* ''MetalGear'' fans think ''SplinterCell'' fans are boring, wish-fulfilment-craving thirteen-year-old boys who like to look ultra-serious all the time, have no sense of humour, and aren't smart enough to understand a complex, involved and challenging story. ''Splinter Cell'' fans think ''Metal Gear'' fans are moronic, hyperactive children who wouldn't know true stealth if it crept up behind them and snapped their necks, and aren't mature enough to care about the story of a game that isn't from Japan and doesn't have a vampire in it. ''{{Thief}}'' fans tend to dislike both camps for being too stupid to understand a story which isn't spoonfed. It's kind of hilarious watching them all go at it.

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* ''MetalGear'' ''Franchise/MetalGear'' fans think ''SplinterCell'' fans are boring, wish-fulfilment-craving thirteen-year-old boys who like to look ultra-serious all the time, have no sense of humour, and aren't smart enough to understand a complex, involved and challenging story. ''Splinter Cell'' fans think ''Metal Gear'' fans are moronic, hyperactive children who wouldn't know true stealth if it crept up behind them and snapped their necks, and aren't mature enough to care about the story of a game that isn't from Japan and doesn't have a vampire in it. ''{{Thief}}'' fans tend to dislike both camps for being too stupid to understand a story which isn't spoonfed. It's kind of hilarious watching them all go at it.
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** Perhaps one of the reasons is that it's not uncommon to move from ''RuneScape'' to Creator/ArtixEntertainment (being that both games are free-to-play [=RPGs=] with a bit of comedy involved, and the resemblances are even closer with ''VideoGame/AdventureQuestWorlds'' now in place), and thus the old animosity that the old RS fans have carry over to AE.

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** Perhaps one of the reasons is that it's not uncommon to move from ''RuneScape'' to Creator/ArtixEntertainment (being that both games are free-to-play [=RPGs=] {{Role Playing Game}}s with a bit of comedy involved, and the resemblances are even closer with ''VideoGame/AdventureQuestWorlds'' now in place), and thus the old animosity that the old RS fans have carry over to AE.



* ''DarkSouls'' vs. ''TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' are both high-fantasy {{RPG}}s that came out around the same time. The debate usually boils down to JRPGS vs. WRPGS (despite Dark Souls being styled much like a WRPG) and old school challenge vs. open world fun.

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* ''DarkSouls'' vs. ''TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' are both high-fantasy {{RPG}}s that came out around the same time. The debate usually boils down to JRPGS [=JRPGS=] vs. WRPGS [=WRPGS=] (despite Dark Souls being styled much like a WRPG) and old school challenge vs. open world fun.



* Fans of ''{{Pokemon}}'' vs. fans of ''{{Spectrobes}}'' for DS RPGs. Both ''Spectrobes'' and ''Pokémon Diamond and Pearl'' came out around the same time, inciting massive arguments about which one has better gameplay, graphics, and story.

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* Fans of ''{{Pokemon}}'' vs. fans of ''{{Spectrobes}}'' for DS RPGs.{{Role Playing Game}}s. Both ''Spectrobes'' and ''Pokémon Diamond and Pearl'' came out around the same time, inciting massive arguments about which one has better gameplay, graphics, and story.
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* ''{{Tekken}}'' vs. ''DeadOrAlive''. This one's particularly interesting in that one of the actual game designers, ''DOA'' creator Tomonobu Itagaki, actually promotes the rivalry(Itagaki has been VERY outspoken in criticizing ''Tekken''), and that, starting with ''[=DOA3=]'', the series became console-exclusive on {{XBox}}/XBox360, while ''Tekken'', although multiplatform, is still considered by fans a [[{{Playstation 3}} Playstation]] franchise. Basically, this is a fandom rivalry that involves both games AND the systems they play on.
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** To a degree you also have WoW vs. the first three ''Warcraft'' games, due to the seeming abandonment of the original strategy format. Even proposed films have focused more on WoW than the original games.


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** And you can toss fans of the ''{{X-wing}}'' series in for good measure. The fan rivalry between ''WingCommander'' and ''X-wing'' especially got quite heated.
*** And then you have ''{{X-Wing}}'' vs. ''TIEFighter'' vs. ''{{X-Wing Vs TIE Fighter}}'' vs. ''{{X-Wing Alliance}}''...
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* The "classic" ''SpyroTheDragon'' fans vs. ''[[TheLegendOfSpyroTrilogy Legend of Spyro]]'' fans. Classic fans will rub off making the ''Legend'' fans look like idiots who'll buy anything while the other side says the Classic fans are immature losers who are afraid of trying something new. It can get rather ridiculous watching the fights go on, especially [[FanDumb when people start assuming things about]] [[DidNotDoTheResearch how video games get developed and get sold]]. As of 2011 though, both sides are willing to make an EnemyMine against ''SkylandersSpyrosAdventure'' just for its Spyro character design ''alone''. (Kotick's reputation among gamers doesn't help.)

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* The "classic" ''SpyroTheDragon'' fans vs. ''[[TheLegendOfSpyroTrilogy Legend of Spyro]]'' fans. Classic fans will rub off making the ''Legend'' fans look like idiots who'll buy anything while the other side says the Classic fans are immature losers who are afraid of trying something new. It can get rather ridiculous watching the fights go on, especially [[FanDumb when people start assuming things about]] [[DidNotDoTheResearch about how video games get developed and get sold]]. As of 2011 though, both sides are willing to make an EnemyMine against ''SkylandersSpyrosAdventure'' just for its Spyro character design ''alone''. (Kotick's reputation among gamers doesn't help.)
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** Recently, there seems to be a group of ''Crash'' fans who hate other fans who like ''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', even if the hatred is pretty one sided. That is, until you realise the main forum to like ''Friendship is Magic'' already has a mixed reputation among fans...

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** Recently, there seems to be a group of ''Crash'' fans who hate other fans who like ''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', even if the hatred is pretty one sided. That is, until you realise the main forum to like ''Friendship is Magic'' already has a mixed reputation among fans...
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** Recently, there seems to be a group of ''Crash'' fans who hate other fans who like MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic, even if the hatred is pretty one sided. That is, until you realise the main forum to like ''Friendship is Magic'' already has a mixed reputation among fans...

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** Recently, there seems to be a group of ''Crash'' fans who hate other fans who like MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic, ''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', even if the hatred is pretty one sided. That is, until you realise the main forum to like ''Friendship is Magic'' already has a mixed reputation among fans...
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* Most users on Steam's ''Team Fortress 2'' forums hate anything Mario or Sonic. Just ''the mere mentioning of them'' will cause users to go into a frenzy. Website/YouTube and DeviantArt [=TF2=] fans don't mind Mario or Sonic, though.

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* Most users on Steam's ''Team Fortress 2'' forums hate anything Mario or Sonic. Just ''the mere mentioning of them'' will cause users to go into a frenzy. Website/YouTube and DeviantArt [=TF2=] fans don't mind Mario or Sonic, though.though.
* Much like the ''SpyroTheDragon'' example above, ''CrashBandicoot'' has rivalries between people who accept all of the games, people who like everything up until the Radical Entertainment games, people who ''hate'' anything post-Naughty Dog, and people who like the Radical games but don't like the rest. It isn't pretty
** Recently, there seems to be a group of ''Crash'' fans who hate other fans who like MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic, even if the hatred is pretty one sided. That is, until you realise the main forum to like ''Friendship is Magic'' already has a mixed reputation among fans...

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* ''SystemShock'' vs. ''BioShock''. Even if you like both or prefer ''SystemShock 2'' over Bioshock, this is ''NOT OKAY''.
** On the other hand, if you dare suggest BioShock is actually a good game, ''some'' SystemShock fans will eat you alive, call you a Console Kiddy, and kick you out of their forum.

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* ''SystemShock'' ''VideoGame/SystemShock'' vs. ''BioShock''. Even if you like both or prefer ''SystemShock ''VideoGame/SystemShock 2'' over Bioshock, this is ''NOT OKAY''.
** On the other hand, if you dare suggest BioShock is actually a good game, ''some'' SystemShock VideoGame/SystemShock fans will eat you alive, call you a Console Kiddy, and kick you out of their forum.



** Then there's the fans of ''OcarinaOfTime'' vs. ''Majora's Mask'' vs. ''Twilight Princess'' into which is the [[FanDumb better 3D Zelda game]].

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** Then there's the fans of ''OcarinaOfTime'' ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' vs. ''Majora's Mask'' vs. ''Twilight Princess'' into which is the [[FanDumb better 3D Zelda game]].



*** Compare to the rivalry between ''{{Warcraft}}'' and ''{{Warhammer}} Fantasy''.

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*** Compare to the rivalry between ''{{Warcraft}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' and ''{{Warhammer}} ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} Fantasy''.



* ''SuperSmashBros'' vs. ''any'' fighting game. Due to its game mechanics, it's heavily debated whether ''Smash'' is more technical or less technical than other fighters; it may be considered less technical because the control scheme is comparably simple, and it may be considered more technical because the game is more about manual advanced technical maneuvers[[hottip:*:For example, lag-canceling aerial attacks is manual in ''Smash''. Traditional fights don't have any landing lag at all.]] psychological skill, matchup knowledge, and creative playstyle than simply health bar depletion and button combinations.

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* ''SuperSmashBros'' ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' vs. ''any'' fighting game. Due to its game mechanics, it's heavily debated whether ''Smash'' is more technical or less technical than other fighters; it may be considered less technical because the control scheme is comparably simple, and it may be considered more technical because the game is more about manual advanced technical maneuvers[[hottip:*:For maneuvers[[note]]For example, lag-canceling aerial attacks is manual in ''Smash''. Traditional fights don't have any landing lag at all.]] [[/note]] psychological skill, matchup knowledge, and creative playstyle than simply health bar depletion and button combinations.



* ''{{Halo}}'' fans vs. ''{{Metroid}} Prime'' fans. Doesn't help that the resemblance is superficial at best and that both series actually do appeal to different tastes.
** There's also a substantial rivalry between the ''{{Halo}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life}}'' fandoms, possibly mirroring the Console vs PC conflict.

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* ''{{Halo}}'' ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' fans vs. ''{{Metroid}} Prime'' fans. Doesn't help that the resemblance is superficial at best and that both series actually do appeal to different tastes.
** There's also a substantial rivalry between the ''{{Halo}}'' ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life}}'' fandoms, possibly mirroring the Console vs PC conflict.



** ''{{Halo}}'' fans vs. ''CallOfDuty'' fans vs. ''GearsOfWar'' fans for domination of 360 shooters, stirred by A. ''Halo'' and ''Gears'' being Xbox exclusives and B. ''CallOfDuty'' outright dethroning ''Halo'' as the #1 popular console FPS series upon the release of ''ModernWarfare''.
*** Good god, ''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}}'' versus ''CallOfDuty'', a rivalry deliberately started by ElectronicArts themselves. The intense amount of FanDumb spouted by both sides is enough to give one a headache. Not completely unrelated to this is...

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** ''{{Halo}}'' ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' fans vs. ''CallOfDuty'' ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' fans vs. ''GearsOfWar'' fans for domination of 360 shooters, stirred by A. ''Halo'' and ''Gears'' being Xbox exclusives and B. ''CallOfDuty'' ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' outright dethroning ''Halo'' as the #1 popular console FPS series upon the release of ''ModernWarfare''.
*** Good god, ''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}}'' versus ''CallOfDuty'', ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'', a rivalry deliberately started by ElectronicArts themselves. The intense amount of FanDumb spouted by both sides is enough to give one a headache. Not completely unrelated to this is...



** A stronger example for Americans would probably be, within the ''Final Fantasy'' series, pre-''FinalFantasyVII'' games vs. [=FF7=] and anything beyond. ''FinalFantasyVI'' and ''FinalFantasyVII'' in particular have fandoms with a hate-on for one another. The other strongest rivalries are FFVII Vs. FFX, FFIX Vs. Underappreciation, and FFVIII Vs. Every other game in the series. There's lots of HateDumb to be had.

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** A stronger example for Americans would probably be, within the ''Final Fantasy'' series, pre-''FinalFantasyVII'' pre-''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' games vs. [=FF7=] and anything beyond. ''FinalFantasyVI'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' and ''FinalFantasyVII'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' in particular have fandoms with a hate-on for one another. The other strongest rivalries are FFVII Vs. FFX, FFIX Vs. Underappreciation, and FFVIII Vs. Every other game in the series. There's lots of HateDumb to be had.



** There's also ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' vs. ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''. The most heated debate is usually between fans of ''FinalFantasyVII'' for the Sony [=PlayStation=] and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' for the Nintendo 64, crossing over into ConsoleWars, with both heatedly declaring that their specific game was the biggest RPG of all time. Even though Zelda is an ActionAdventure series, not an RPG.

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** There's also ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' vs. ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''. The most heated debate is usually between fans of ''FinalFantasyVII'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' for the Sony [=PlayStation=] and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' for the Nintendo 64, crossing over into ConsoleWars, with both heatedly declaring that their specific game was the biggest RPG of all time. Even though Zelda is an ActionAdventure series, not an RPG.



* You do occasionally run into ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' versus ''HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi''. Yes, despite being two parts of [[WhenTheyCry the same metaseries]], there's still debate over which is better.

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* You do occasionally run into ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' ''VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' versus ''HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi''.''VisualNovel/HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi''. Yes, despite being two parts of [[WhenTheyCry the same metaseries]], there's still debate over which is better.



* The ''FateStayNight'' war between the Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel scenarios still hasn't boiled down. Whether it's a battle between the heroines: Rin is a strong, hardworking, independent woman vs. Rin is a cookie-cutter {{Tsundere}}; Sakura is a sympathetic, kind-hearted {{Woobie}} vs. Sakura is a boring NiceGirl FirstGirlWins. Shirou's ideals: It's impossible to save everyone, but it's beautiful to try anyways vs. ultra-dense LawfulStupid [[ImageBoards moralfag]]; It's better to realistically look at the world vs. moral relativism is for senseless 80's [[AntiHero Anti-Heroes]]. The quality of the narrative: An epic and hopeless supernatural brawl vs. standard {{Shounen}} plot line; A look at the darker aspects of the Grail War vs. two weeks of people dying and badly written sex scenes. What's worse is that any argument among [[NasuVerse Type Lunatics]] tends to curve right back to where it began, resulting in an endless loop of "debate".

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* The ''FateStayNight'' ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' war between the Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel scenarios still hasn't boiled down. Whether it's a battle between the heroines: Rin is a strong, hardworking, independent woman vs. Rin is a cookie-cutter {{Tsundere}}; Sakura is a sympathetic, kind-hearted {{Woobie}} vs. Sakura is a boring NiceGirl FirstGirlWins. Shirou's ideals: It's impossible to save everyone, but it's beautiful to try anyways vs. ultra-dense LawfulStupid [[ImageBoards moralfag]]; It's better to realistically look at the world vs. moral relativism is for senseless 80's [[AntiHero Anti-Heroes]]. The quality of the narrative: An epic and hopeless supernatural brawl vs. standard {{Shounen}} plot line; A look at the darker aspects of the Grail War vs. two weeks of people dying and badly written sex scenes. What's worse is that any argument among [[NasuVerse Type Lunatics]] tends to curve right back to where it began, resulting in an endless loop of "debate".



* ''[[JakAndDaxter Jak]]'' fans and ''RatchetAndClank'' fans absolutely despise each other, claiming one game ripped off of the other, despite the developers being good friends and business partners.

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* ''[[JakAndDaxter Jak]]'' fans and ''RatchetAndClank'' ''VideoGame/RatchetAndClank'' fans absolutely despise each other, claiming one game ripped off of the other, despite the developers being good friends and business partners.



* ''VideoGame/{{Torchlight}} 2'' and ''{{Diablo}} 3'' fans are already at each other's throats despite both games still being in development (D3 has opened for public beta testing). Though Runic Games is keeping mum, every new Blizzard announcement has invariably led to someone mentioning TL2 and triggering a massive FlameWar.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Torchlight}} 2'' and ''{{Diablo}} 3'' ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'' fans are already at each other's throats despite both games still being in development (D3 has opened for public beta testing). Though Runic Games is keeping mum, every new Blizzard announcement has invariably led to someone mentioning TL2 and triggering a massive FlameWar.



* [[TheSims The Sims 2 vs. The Sims 3]]

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* Within the ''VideoGame/StarFox'' franchise, those who played ''VideoGame/StarFox1'' vs. those who started with ''VideoGame/StarFox64'' vs those who like ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' [[RuleOfThree vs]] those who prefer ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault'' [[OverlyLongGag vs]] those who '''[[FanDumb dared]]''' to call ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'' a good game, or even [[FanonDiscontinuity consider it canon]][[hottip:*:though this particular example has actually fallen victim to CanonDiscontinuity]]. Depending on which side you are on you may or may not find that members of other [[BrokenBase base fragments]] actually team up on you.
* Most users on Steam's ''Team Fortress 2'' forums hate anything Mario or Sonic. Just ''the mere mentioning of them'' will cause users to go into a frenzy. YouTube and DeviantArt [=TF2=] fans don't mind Mario or Sonic, though.

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* Within the ''VideoGame/StarFox'' franchise, those who played ''VideoGame/StarFox1'' vs. those who started with ''VideoGame/StarFox64'' vs those who like ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' [[RuleOfThree vs]] those who prefer ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault'' [[OverlyLongGag vs]] those who '''[[FanDumb dared]]''' to call ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'' a good game, or even [[FanonDiscontinuity consider it canon]][[hottip:*:though canon]][[note]]though this particular example has actually fallen victim to CanonDiscontinuity]].CanonDiscontinuity[[/note]]. Depending on which side you are on you may or may not find that members of other [[BrokenBase base fragments]] actually team up on you.
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** Then there's the fans of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' vs ''Twilight Princess'' into which is the [[FanDumb better 3D Zelda game]]

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* EliteBeatAgents versus ''Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan'', with OTO fans saying that EBA is a watered down version of Ouendan and EBA fans calling OTO fans weeaboos.

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* Within the ''VideoGame/StarFox'' franchise, those who played ''VideoGame/StarFox1'' vs. those who started with ''VideoGame/StarFox64'' vs those who like ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' [[RuleOfThree vs]] those who prefer ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault'' [[OverlyLongGag vs]] those who '''[[FanDumb dared]]''' to call ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'' a good game, or even [[FanonDiscontinuity consider it canon]][[hottip:*:though this particular example has actually fallen victim to CanonDiscontinuity]]. Depending on which side you are on you may or may not find that members of other [[BrokenBase base fragments]] actually team up on you.

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* Within the ''VideoGame/StarFox'' franchise, those who played ''VideoGame/StarFox1'' vs. those who started with ''VideoGame/StarFox64'' vs those who like ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' [[RuleOfThree vs]] those who prefer ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault'' [[OverlyLongGag vs]] those who '''[[FanDumb dared]]''' to call ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'' a good game, or even [[FanonDiscontinuity consider it canon]][[hottip:*:though this particular example has actually fallen victim to CanonDiscontinuity]]. Depending on which side you are on you may or may not find that members of other [[BrokenBase base fragments]] actually team up on you.you.
* Most users on Steam's ''Team Fortress 2'' forums hate anything Mario or Sonic. Just ''the mere mentioning of them'' will cause users to go into a frenzy. YouTube and DeviantArt [=TF2=] fans don't mind Mario or Sonic, though.
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** ''Videogame/WorldOfWarcraft'' vs. ''Guild Wars'' - getting worse now that Guild Wars 2 is close to release and being called the first major competitor to WoW. The game isn't even OUT yet and flame wars are already starting on Guild Wars 2 vids on YouTube.

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* ''GrandTheftAuto'' fans vs. ''SaintsRow'' fans.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life}}'' fans vs. ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'' fans. This is an EnforcedTrope: to make sure ''Portal'' doesn't get a hatedom, Valve set it in the ''Half-Life'' universe, and Aperture Science (the facility in ''Portal'') became rivals of Black Mesa (the facility in ''Half-Life''). In addition, ''{{VideoGame/Half-Life 2}}: Episode Two'' featured a discovery of an Aperture research vessel, Borealis, with Eli Vance vowing to destroy it "whatever it takes", and in ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' Cave Johnson implies Black Mesa stole Aperture Science's corporate secrets and made profit of them themselves. While some fan circles do seem to get in an argument whetter Aperture Science or Black Mesa is "better", most of them became fans of both, destroying the trope.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life}}'' fans vs. ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'' fans. This is an EnforcedTrope: to make sure ''Portal'' doesn't get a hatedom, Valve set it in the ''Half-Life'' universe, and Aperture Science (the facility in ''Portal'') became rivals of Black Mesa (the facility in ''Half-Life''). In addition, ''{{VideoGame/Half-Life ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life 2}}: Episode Two'' featured a discovery of an Aperture research vessel, Borealis, with Eli Vance vowing to destroy it "whatever it takes", and in ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' Cave Johnson implies Black Mesa stole Aperture Science's corporate secrets and made profit of them themselves. While some fan circles do seem to get in an argument whetter Aperture Science or Black Mesa is "better", most of them became fans of both, destroying the trope.
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*** With ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'', Sega TookAThirdOption and combined the difference - featuring the aspects of the two eras, from gameplay to aesthetics, colliding in a CrisisCrossover time travel plot. Surprisingly, [[BeyondTheImpossible this pleased]] [[UnpleasableFanbase everybody]].

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*** With ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'', Sega TookAThirdOption and combined the difference - featuring the aspects of the two eras, from gameplay to aesthetics, colliding in a CrisisCrossover time travel plot. Surprisingly, [[BeyondTheImpossible this pleased]] pleased [[UnpleasableFanbase everybody]].
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*** Speaking of [[CapcomVsWhatever Capcom crossover games]], but to a smaller extent than the two above, ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2'' against ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom''. Upon the announcements that both games would receive {{updated rerelease}}s in the West in 2010, the stage was set for hostilities. Best example of this case? ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'' adopting the ''Tatsunoko vs. Capcom'' button layout was the cue for RuinedForever.

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*** Speaking of [[CapcomVsWhatever Capcom crossover games]], but to a smaller extent than the two above, ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2'' against ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom''. Upon the announcements that both games would receive {{updated rerelease}}s in the West in 2010, the stage was set for hostilities. Best example of this case? ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'' adopting the ''Tatsunoko vs. Capcom'' button layout was the cue for RuinedForever.cries of "Ruined Forever!"
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*** With ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'', Sega TookAThirdOption and combined the difference - featuring the aspects of the two eras, from gameplay to aesthetics, colliding in a CrisisCrossover time travel plot. Surprisingly, [[AndTheFandomRejoiced this pleased everybody]].

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** 8-Bit Mega Man platformers vs. more-than-8-Bit Mega Man platformers. Some people feel the series declined after the NES era, with ''Mega Man 8'' in particular being SnarkBait for its increased focus on new gameplay elements the core games never had. With ''Mega Man 9'' and ''10'' not only becoming 8-Bit again, but also axing some of the moves Mega Man gained since ''Mega Man 2'', a steay alternate backlash has arisen from people who think the series needs to be more progressive.

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** 8-Bit Mega Man platformers vs. more-than-8-Bit Mega Man platformers. Some people feel the series declined after the NES era, with ''Mega Man 8'' in particular being SnarkBait for its increased focus on new gameplay elements the core games never had. With ''Mega Man 9'' and ''10'' not only becoming 8-Bit again, but also axing some of the moves Mega Man gained since ''Mega Man 2'', a steay steady alternate backlash has arisen from people who think the series needs to be more progressive.

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* ConsoleWars in general. Even worse is PCVsConsole.
** Sega fired the first shot, but the anti-Sega views were mostly taken up by Nintendo's fandom rather than the actual company. Didn't help much that Nintendo fans were all accused of being five-year-olds.
*** Wait - Sega started the console wars? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koTxt7D3e2I George Plimpton would like a word with you]]
*** Even mentioning the rivalry between SegaGenesis and [[SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] ''today'' can lead to InternetBackdraft. Nowadays some Nintendo fans like to bring up the failures of Sega's subsequent systems, returning the {{Take That}}s Sega hurled at Nintendo in TheNineties.
* Despite the fact that the game hasn't even been released yet, a rivalry is already developing between fans of ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'' and fans of ''Videogame/MassEffect'', due to perceived similarities between ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' and ''Videogame/MassEffect'', and naturally, which one is better.
* ''Mega Man'' has stretched itself so far that there's bound to be some of this. Among the main rivalries:
** [[VideoGame/MegaMan Classic]] timeline fans vs. the ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' timeline. Though the latter is actually fairly faithful to the former in terms of themes, people who like the old-school, NintendoHard games see the Network timeline as an attempt to woo over fans of games like ''Pokémon'' and ''{{Yu-Gi-Oh}}''.
** 8-Bit Mega Man platformers vs. more-than-8-Bit Mega Man platformers. Some people feel the series declined after the NES era, with ''Mega Man 8'' in particular being SnarkBait for its increased focus on new gameplay elements the core games never had. With ''Mega Man 9'' and ''10'' not only becoming 8-Bit again, but also axing some of the moves Mega Man gained since ''Mega Man 2'', a steay alternate backlash has arisen from people who think the series needs to be more progressive.
*** The slide is a particular ScrappyMechanic. And every new mechanic gets more hatedom.
* ''The'' video game example is ''[[SuperMarioBros Mario]]'' vs. ''[[SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]]''. It was practically ''intended'' by Sega in the 16-bit era, since ''Sonic'' was created for the purpose of competing with ''Mario''. It dissipated a bit once Sega quit consoles, but still exists because the rivalry become so deeply ingrained in video game history and [[LongRunner both]] [[CashCowFranchise franchises]] are still very recognizable and popular headliners for their respective companies. ''VideoGame/MarioAndSonicAtTheOlympicGames'' and Sonic appearing in ''SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' [[AscendedMeme have taken advantage of this]] while burying the hatchet for the most part, the rivalry chiefly exists between older fans now (who also still argue over the aforementioned SNES vs Sega Genesis ConsoleWars). It's probably the closest thing to a video game equivalent of ''Coke vs Pepsi''.
** Any ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' game vs. ''[[SegaSuperstars Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing]]'' vs. ''[[CrashBandicoot Crash Team Racing]]'' vs. ''DiddyKongRacing'' vs. ''ModNationRacers'' for domination of the kart racer genre.
*** Mario Kart itself has a Fandom Rivalry between ''Mario Kart DS'' and ''Mario Kart ''
** Within ''Sonic'', you have "classic" (pre-SegaDreamcast) fans vs. "modern" (post-Dreamcast) fans.
*** With ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'', Sega TookAThirdOption and combined the difference - featuring the aspects of the two eras, from gameplay to aesthetics, colliding in a CrisisCrossover time travel plot. Surprisingly, [[AndTheFandomRejoiced this pleased everybody]].
* ''SystemShock'' vs. ''BioShock''. Even if you like both or prefer ''SystemShock 2'' over Bioshock, this is ''NOT OKAY''.
** On the other hand, if you dare suggest BioShock is actually a good game, ''some'' SystemShock fans will eat you alive, call you a Console Kiddy, and kick you out of their forum.
* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' and ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' are [[LighterAndSofter extreme]] [[DarkerAndEdgier opposites]] in terms of style, and their fanbases just [[FanDumb can't seem to accept one game as awesome without bashing the other.]]
** There seems to be some pressure between ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast Link to the Past]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' fans as to which one's better, and even if the other's good at all.
** Then there's the fans of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' vs ''Twilight Princess'' into which is the [[FanDumb better 3D Zelda game]]
** All of the Zelda games have fans (even ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaCDIGames those ones]]'' have [[MemeticMutation some ironic ones]]). If you claim to like all [[strike:18]] 15 ''Zelda''s you're deluding yourself and have blood on your hands.
** On the outside level there's ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' vs ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', which got pretty intense, very unfortunately named and timed.
* ''Videogame/WorldOfWarcraft'' vs. ''Videogame/FinalFantasyXI'' -- at least among those for whom the latter is even on the radar. They embody instant gratification vs. hard work, casual play vs. dedicated hobby -- or, less charitably, {{Scrub}} vs. StopHavingFunGuy. Additionally, they display solo vs. group emphasis.
** ''Videogame/WorldOfWarcraft'' vs. ''Videogame/WarhammerOnline'' is a second MMO rivalry.
** ''Videogame/WorldOfWarcraft'' vs. ''Guild Wars'' - getting worse now that Guild Wars 2 is close to release and being called the first major competitor to WoW. The game isn't even OUT yet and flame wars are already starting on Guild Wars 2 vids on YouTube.
*** Within [=WoW=], you have warriors-versus-paladins and more famously, warlocks-versus-mages (although most people in those debates see it as a friendly running gag to bash each other, especially since a lot of these guys probably have alts of the opposing classes.).
*** Within WoW you also have Horde vs Alliance. A major source of contention that causes a broken base. That's right, just like the factions in game, the fandoms are at war with each other. While most players do have characters on both sides (like the class debates above) they all have one clear favorite, and there are many flame wars over which is better (from meta-game perspective all the way down to who has the better war machine in lore), which Blizzard favors in terms of buffs or for story focus, etc. Fans of lore also see a similar rivalry between people who prefer "war" between the two factions and a "peace" between the two factions.
*** Compare to the rivalry between ''{{Warcraft}}'' and ''{{Warhammer}} Fantasy''.
** ''Videogame/CityOfHeroes'' is another UnknownRival.
*** And now ''Videogame/CityOfHeroes'' vs. ''VideoGame/ChampionsOnline''. The fact that the latter is being made by the ScapegoatCreator of the former ''does not help at all''.
** Everquest fans hold a grudge against WoW that looks like this.
** ''EveOnline'' players tend to stay away from the fracas for some reason, oddly enough for an MMORPG that has been demonstrated to be SeriousBusiness - probably due to a different gameplay emphasis.
*** ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' might be the first to start some friction, even though it seems like the two games will have absolutely nothing in common besides starship combat in space online, [[FanDumb that never stopped anyone]].
**** And since it's being developed by Cryptic and the same ScapegoatCreator associated with ''VideoGame/ChampionsOnline'', the above superhero MMO feud has apparently extended to ''Franchise/StarTrek''.
** WoW versus ''{{Rift}}'': Either ''Rift'' is a half-assed [=WoW=] knock-off that is on the verge of disappearing into obscurity...or it did [=WoW=] one better, and the only reason [=WoW=] still has fans is because [[ItsPopularSoItSucks some people have no taste]]. There's very little middle ground.
** ''GuildWars2'' versus ''StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' is an odd example given that neither game has been released and neither is likely to be released in the near future. Main points of contention seem to be the healer-tank-dps trinity vs a weak and flexible support-damage-control trinity, pay-to-play vs buy-to-play, sci-fi vs fantasy, and Arenanet/[=NCSoft=] vs Bioware/EA. [[EnemyMine Fans of both games tend to agree they want to bring down [=WoW=]]], but beyond that...
*** This one has gotten disturbing of late. If you can find a discussion on SW:TOR's main forums that involve Guild Wars, you ''will'' find someone lying about Guild Wars 2 just to make it look bad. There was one thread where a guy ''claimed he was playing the [=GW2=] beta'' to reinforce his argument that he knew TOR was superior. The [=GW2=] beta ''is not out yet.'' Some [=GW2=] fans love this and go troll the TOR forums, only making the problem worse.
** In case you haven't noticed the trend by now, over 90% of the [[FandomRivalry Fandom Rivalries]] in the MMORPG genre can be summed up as WoW vs. whatever game is currently in second place in popularity.
* EliteBeatAgents versus ''Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan'', with OTO fans saying that EBA is a watered down version of Ouendan and EBA fans calling OTO fans weeaboos.
* ''GuitarHero'' fans think ''RockBand'' tries to do too much and doesn't do anything well. ''RockBand'' fans think ''GuitarHero'' has bad chart design and, with ''World Tour'', [[FollowTheLeader is ripping them off]]. The minority who play and enjoy both just stay out of the way.
** Due to both series' {{Mission Pack Sequel}}s, Music/{{Metallica}} vs. TheBeatles is an easy way to start an argument between fans of not those two bands, but rather of said video game series. This despite the fact that both bands are completely different.
** ''GuitarHero'' and ''RockBand'' vs. {{Bemani}} (particularly ''Guitar Freaks'' and ''drummania'', the inspirations for GH and RB). The tension seems to have calmed down in recent years, although the introduction of ''Guitar Freaks XG'' (a successor to the 3-fret ''Guitar Freaks'' that adds two more fret buttons) re-ignited things a little bit.
* ''StreetFighter'' vs. ''MortalKombat'', a rivalry over two completely different games stylistically.
** And ''Street Fighter'' vs. ''TheKingOfFighters'', which officially materialized into ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom vs. SNK]]''.
*** Speaking of [[CapcomVsWhatever Capcom crossover games]], but to a smaller extent than the two above, ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2'' against ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom''. Upon the announcements that both games would receive {{updated rerelease}}s in the West in 2010, the stage was set for hostilities. Best example of this case? ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'' adopting the ''Tatsunoko vs. Capcom'' button layout was the cue for RuinedForever.
* ''SuperSmashBros'' vs. ''any'' fighting game. Due to its game mechanics, it's heavily debated whether ''Smash'' is more technical or less technical than other fighters; it may be considered less technical because the control scheme is comparably simple, and it may be considered more technical because the game is more about manual advanced technical maneuvers[[hottip:*:For example, lag-canceling aerial attacks is manual in ''Smash''. Traditional fights don't have any landing lag at all.]] psychological skill, matchup knowledge, and creative playstyle than simply health bar depletion and button combinations.
** And then things got FromBadToWorse with the mere ''existence'' of ''PlaystationAllStarsBattleRoyale.'' [[InternetBackdraft Hoo]] [[HateDumb boy.]]
* ''SilentHill'' fans vs. ''ResidentEvil'' fans.
* ''{{Halo}}'' fans vs. ''{{Metroid}} Prime'' fans. Doesn't help that the resemblance is superficial at best and that both series actually do appeal to different tastes.
** There's also a substantial rivalry between the ''{{Halo}}'' and ''{{Half-Life}}'' fandoms, possibly mirroring the Console vs PC conflict.
*** This one is also related to the fact that both were incredibly influential {{First Person Shooter}}s, and nobody can seem to decide which one was more important (''Half-Life'', because it's earlier? ''Halo'', because it's more widely-known?)
** ''{{Halo}}'' fans vs. ''CallOfDuty'' fans vs. ''GearsOfWar'' fans for domination of 360 shooters, stirred by A. ''Halo'' and ''Gears'' being Xbox exclusives and B. ''CallOfDuty'' outright dethroning ''Halo'' as the #1 popular console FPS series upon the release of ''ModernWarfare''.
*** Good god, ''VideoGame/{{Battlefield}}'' versus ''CallOfDuty'', a rivalry deliberately started by ElectronicArts themselves. The intense amount of FanDumb spouted by both sides is enough to give one a headache. Not completely unrelated to this is...
*** {{Steam}} versus EA's Origin. One of them is a well-established digital games platform (which ''Call of Duty'' games are directly integrated to, controversially starting with ''ModernWarfare 2''). The latter is coming out with the explicit purpose of destroying the former. Compounded by EA refusing to comply with Steam's terms of agreement, which led to the removal of some games (''VideoGame/{{Crysis}} 2'' and ''DragonAgeII'') from Steam, which will certainly end up on Origin when it comes out.
**** Don't believe us about the Battlefield vs. COD war? Go on ANY Youtube video about either game. Scroll down to the comments. If you are not frustrated, you deserve a medal.
**** EA really likes starting fan wars, doesn't it?
** And then came COD vs. ''TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' vs. Halo vs. Battlefield. You know, since games of different genres should be compared to each other to reach a logical goal.
** To a certain extent, there's even a ''VideoGame/{{Halo}}'' vs. ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'' rivalry, as some people think Bungie merely recycled the latter's ideas into the former with more modern production values and more commercial success. The Mac vs. Windows rivalry (as described elsewhere) might also have something to do with it, since the ''Marathon'' trilogy was originally released for the Mac before fans created the Aleph One cross-platform port, whereas Halo was originally made for Microsoft's Xbox (though it was later ported to the Mac as well as the PC). However, in this case, it's more acceptable and common to like both than usual.
*** Speaking of which, ''VideoGame/{{Marathon}}'' vs. ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' for old-school FPS supremacy. The former was considered technologically superior and had an infinitely deeper storyline, but since it was originally released for the Mac, which has never been known for its huge gaming community, the latter was much more widely played. And, of course, there were probably Doom players who just liked killing stuff without having to follow a story.
* ''GrandTheftAuto'' fans vs. ''SaintsRow'' fans.
* ''VideoGame/TeamFortressClassic'' players vs. ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' players. The former people tend to fall into TheyChangedItNowItSucks and/or StopHavingFunGuys, and look down on the latter game as being too "noobish". You know how this proceeds.
** Team Fortress Classic/2 vs. Counter-Strike (Source). Both from Valve, both started as mods (though Team Fortress goes back even further as a mod for Quake), both with diametrically opposed styles of gameplay. Bound to be conflict? You bet.
* ''VideoGame/InFamous'' fans vs. ''VideoGame/{{Prototype}}'' fans.
* ''FinalFantasy'' vs. ''DragonQuest'', although this one is probably a little stronger in Japan, since love for the ''Dragon Quest'' series elsewhere lies mostly with a cult following.
** A stronger example for Americans would probably be, within the ''Final Fantasy'' series, pre-''FinalFantasyVII'' games vs. [=FF7=] and anything beyond. ''FinalFantasyVI'' and ''FinalFantasyVII'' in particular have fandoms with a hate-on for one another. The other strongest rivalries are FFVII Vs. FFX, FFIX Vs. Underappreciation, and FFVIII Vs. Every other game in the series. There's lots of HateDumb to be had.
** This got really interesting after the companies that made the two series (Squaresoft for FinalFantasy, Enix for DragonQuest) merged into the new company, SquareEnix. You might think that this would make the rivalry less intense as both series are now made by the same company. There are some fans from each side who claim that entries of their series made since the merger have been lesser in quality due to being "tainted" by having employees who were originallly from the other company working on them.
** There's also ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' vs. ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda''. The most heated debate is usually between fans of ''FinalFantasyVII'' for the Sony [=PlayStation=] and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'' for the Nintendo 64, crossing over into ConsoleWars, with both heatedly declaring that their specific game was the biggest RPG of all time. Even though Zelda is an ActionAdventure series, not an RPG.
** A smaller scale rivalry is ''Final Fantasy'' vs. the TalesSeries, or, to be more accurate, ''Final Fantasy VII'' vs. ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''. Both games are considered by and large to be the greatest games in their respective series, and thus are at the heart and passion of next to all of the flame wars of these two franchises. It should also be noted that while ''Final Fantasy'' as a series is very dark and brooding, the Tales series is much more akin to the classic [[EasternRPG JRPG]]s of the SNES era, though with dark elements of their own, just not as extreme.
* ''KingdomHearts'' vs. ''EpicMickey''. The ''KingdomHearts'' {{Hatedom}} has flocked to ''EpicMickey'''s side for being a massive, epic Disney game without SquareEnix or Tetsuya Nomura's involvement.
* ''MetalGear'' fans think ''SplinterCell'' fans are boring, wish-fulfilment-craving thirteen-year-old boys who like to look ultra-serious all the time, have no sense of humour, and aren't smart enough to understand a complex, involved and challenging story. ''Splinter Cell'' fans think ''Metal Gear'' fans are moronic, hyperactive children who wouldn't know true stealth if it crept up behind them and snapped their necks, and aren't mature enough to care about the story of a game that isn't from Japan and doesn't have a vampire in it. ''{{Thief}}'' fans tend to dislike both camps for being too stupid to understand a story which isn't spoonfed. It's kind of hilarious watching them all go at it.
** Amusingly, the (unofficial) ''Metal Gear'' wiki has a fairly neutral article on ''Splinter Cell'', and in the "Trivia" section mentions that the fans of one series often dislike the other, concluding with, "It's a good idea to ignore both of them."
** The best part is that Konami and Ubisoft see it in a more friendly light. Both even cooperating to allow each other to create cameos in their games. Cameos that don't involve any TakeThat shots at each other even.
* The "classic" ''SpyroTheDragon'' fans vs. ''[[TheLegendOfSpyroTrilogy Legend of Spyro]]'' fans. Classic fans will rub off making the ''Legend'' fans look like idiots who'll buy anything while the other side says the Classic fans are immature losers who are afraid of trying something new. It can get rather ridiculous watching the fights go on, especially [[FanDumb when people start assuming things about]] [[DidNotDoTheResearch how video games get developed and get sold]]. As of 2011 though, both sides are willing to make an EnemyMine against ''SkylandersSpyrosAdventure'' just for its Spyro character design ''alone''. (Kotick's reputation among gamers doesn't help.)
* ''ForzaMotorsport'' vs. ''GranTurismo'' for realistic racing sim domination, mainly due to both series being [[ConsoleWars console exclusives]].
* You do occasionally run into ''UminekoNoNakuKoroNi'' versus ''HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi''. Yes, despite being two parts of [[WhenTheyCry the same metaseries]], there's still debate over which is better.
* ''HeroesOfNewerth'' and ''LeagueOfLegends'' are both inspired by the original ''DefenseOfTheAncientsAllStars'' mod - the former is a straight copy, the latter has a few superficial differences. Yet if you listen to their respective fans on the forums, ''[=LoL=]'' is ridiculously easy to master and only for kids, is too different, the items are boring and the graphics suck; and ''[=HoN=]'' has a terrible user interface, unintuitive gameplay, is not different enough, the items are boring and the graphics suck. Arguments like 'the automap is on the wrong side of the screen' and 'the item icons are ugly' are not uncommon. Very little effort is spent explaining the reasons why their favourite game is good as opposed to why the other game is trash.
** With more MOBAs, like DOTA 2, coming out soon, this rivalry is starting to shift to the new contenders as well.
* ''SamuraiWarriors'' vs. ''SengokuBasara'', due to both being HackAndSlash games based on the the [[FeudalJapan Sengoku Era]]. It doesn't help that fans of their respective series view certain portrayals of some characters in one series as a TakeThat to their portrayal in the other.
* A very old one that still persists among the retro community: ''{{Repton}}'' versus ''Boulder Dash''. Made worse by the fact that they have completely different styles yet appear very similar on the surface.
* The ''FateStayNight'' war between the Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel scenarios still hasn't boiled down. Whether it's a battle between the heroines: Rin is a strong, hardworking, independent woman vs. Rin is a cookie-cutter {{Tsundere}}; Sakura is a sympathetic, kind-hearted {{Woobie}} vs. Sakura is a boring NiceGirl FirstGirlWins. Shirou's ideals: It's impossible to save everyone, but it's beautiful to try anyways vs. ultra-dense LawfulStupid [[ImageBoards moralfag]]; It's better to realistically look at the world vs. moral relativism is for senseless 80's [[AntiHero Anti-Heroes]]. The quality of the narrative: An epic and hopeless supernatural brawl vs. standard {{Shounen}} plot line; A look at the darker aspects of the Grail War vs. two weeks of people dying and badly written sex scenes. What's worse is that any argument among [[NasuVerse Type Lunatics]] tends to curve right back to where it began, resulting in an endless loop of "debate".
* Though it's more of a BrokenBase, Atlus fans can't seem to agree on whether the classic ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' games or the newer games (Such as ''{{Persona 3}}'' and ''{{Persona 4}}'') are better. Or whether ''Persona 3'' or ''Persona 4'' in general were better.
** For that matter, there's also a bit of heat between fans of ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' and the ''{{Pokemon}}'' series, the debates usually ranging to accusing one side of either being [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism too dark, or too soft]]. The both of them being [[CashCowFranchise well-selling]], long-lasting {{Mons}} series, and having an undying ''love'' for spin-offs doesn't help any.
* Creator/ArtixEntertainment fans seem to have a bit of a hatred for ''RuneScape''. ''RuneScape'' fans might not even be [[UnknownRival aware of this rivalry]].
** Perhaps one of the reasons is that it's not uncommon to move from ''RuneScape'' to Creator/ArtixEntertainment (being that both games are free-to-play [=RPGs=] with a bit of comedy involved, and the resemblances are even closer with ''VideoGame/AdventureQuestWorlds'' now in place), and thus the old animosity that the old RS fans have carry over to AE.
* ''[[JakAndDaxter Jak]]'' fans and ''RatchetAndClank'' fans absolutely despise each other, claiming one game ripped off of the other, despite the developers being good friends and business partners.
** The fact that the characters starred in a [[PlaystationMoveHeroes game]] together shows how nonsensical this hatred really is.
* People who buy video games look down on pirates because their piracy leads to draconian forms of CopyProtection that end up doing nothing to the pirates and only hurt the paying customers (and in some cases lead to games being cancelled completely). Pirates look down on the paying customers and think they are all complete idiots because they paid for something they could get for free.
** Another argument pirates often use is that paying for games despite said CopyProtection causes companies to feel like they can get away with anything.
* ''DarkSouls'' vs. ''TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' are both high-fantasy {{RPG}}s that came out around the same time. The debate usually boils down to JRPGS vs. WRPGS (despite Dark Souls being styled much like a WRPG) and old school challenge vs. open world fun.
* ''{{Touhou}}'' fandom gets some hate from the more general ShootEmUp fandom for not focusing on the games, and the games themselves being mechanically simplistic. When the Touhou fans actually notice, they generally respond that the other games have boring, ugly patterns and mediocre writing.
** Within the general shmup fandom, fans of "old-school" shooters vs. fans of BulletHell shooters and modern shooters in general, particularly those by {{CAVE}}. The former hate newer shmups for featuring girly-girl ships and characters instead of the more military- and scifi-themed visuals of older games and dismiss their high bullet counts as cutting corners. Meanwhile, danmaku fans scoff at more classical shooters for having drab visuals and being too boring to play because they don't have enough bullets on-screen.
** Also, {{CAVE}} vs. EightingRaizing.
* [[Left4Dead Left 4 Dead fans VS Left 4 Dead 2 fans]]. On the camp of game 1, people will claim that the game has a darker feel, better characters, less bugs, and doesn't have the silly amount of guns or melee weapons or new special infected that the sequel has. On the camp of game 2, people will tout that the sequel is better due to having more variety in guns and zombies, better designed levels, and more game modes to play in. Any mention over which games is better or just mentioning the infamous ''Left 4 Dead 2'' boycott will bring both camps together armed with flaming pitchforks.
* ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life}}'' fans vs. ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'' fans. This is an EnforcedTrope: to make sure ''Portal'' doesn't get a hatedom, Valve set it in the ''Half-Life'' universe, and Aperture Science (the facility in ''Portal'') became rivals of Black Mesa (the facility in ''Half-Life''). In addition, ''{{VideoGame/Half-Life 2}}: Episode Two'' featured a discovery of an Aperture research vessel, Borealis, with Eli Vance vowing to destroy it "whatever it takes", and in ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' Cave Johnson implies Black Mesa stole Aperture Science's corporate secrets and made profit of them themselves. While some fan circles do seem to get in an argument whetter Aperture Science or Black Mesa is "better", most of them became fans of both, destroying the trope.
* Dragon Age vs The Witcher
* ''TetrisTheGrandMaster'' vs. ''VideoGame/{{Tetris}}'' in general. The former tends to have a difficult time playing the latter--not necessarily because ItsEasySoItSucks, but because they run into issues such as [[DamnYouMuscleMemory different (and forced) control schemes and changes in gameplay mechanics that make switching from TGM very annoying]]. The latter tends to dismiss TGM as [[ItsHardSoItSucks too hard to play]] after having watched some infamous videos on [=YouTube=]--doesn't help that the TGM series, outside of the mildly-known TGM clone ''[[http://code.google.com/p/nullpomino NullpoMino]]'', is arcade-only and [[NoExportForYou never saw an overseas release]] (and most likely never will due to some ExecutiveMeddling on both the developer's part and The Tetris Company's part).
* In [[TheBeautifulGame soccer]] SportsGame, it's ElectronicArts' ''FIFASoccer'' series vs. {{Konami}}'s ''Winning Eleven/Pro Evolution Soccer''. The former is criticized for being too ''easy'' to score a goal while the latter is criticized for being too ''difficult'' to score a goal.
* ''{{Minecraft}}'' and ''{{Terraria}}'' fans. Minecraft fans have accused Terraria of being a ripoff of Minecraft but in 2D, while Terraria fans have accused Minecraft of copying from Terraria after its release with Minecraft's subsequent addition of bosses and character development. This war between MC and TA ended long ago with the mojang crew recommending people to also play Terraia, while instead, there is {{Minecraft}} versus {{Roblox}} and {{Fortresscraft}}, people on roblox forums get banned easily when they say that MC is better.
* ''VideoGame/{{Torchlight}} 2'' and ''{{Diablo}} 3'' fans are already at each other's throats despite both games still being in development (D3 has opened for public beta testing). Though Runic Games is keeping mum, every new Blizzard announcement has invariably led to someone mentioning TL2 and triggering a massive FlameWar.
* ''InitialD Arcade Stage'' vs. ''WanganMidnightMaximumTune''.
* [[TheSims The Sims 2 vs. The Sims 3]]
* Some people despise linearity in games, and only play {{Wide Open Sandbox}}es, while looking down on anyone playing anything even remotely linear as a child who needs their hand held the whole time so that he doesn't get lost. However, this seems to be one-sided, since you hardly ever see the reverse happening.
** It's rare but the opposition would accuse sandbox fans of the same thing since sandbox games can be played "without any real consequences" since dying doesn't actually mean much.
* Fans of Take Two's ''NFL2K'' series have had it in for ''VideoGame/MaddenNFL'' ever since EA purchased the exclusive NFL license and drove the former franchise off the market.
* ''{{Freespace}}'' fans vs ''Videogame/WingCommander'' fans, although both fandoms treat it as more of a friendly rivalry anymore (that there is a major ''Wing Commander'' mod for ''Freespace'' is telling). ''Freespace'' fans and ''Battlecruiser 3000 AD'' fans had a more bitter enmity, mainly due to an incident where ''Battlecruiser's'' creator made a bid for buying ''Freespace's'' license, and the resulting FlameWar.
* Fans of ''{{Pokemon}}'' vs. fans of ''{{Spectrobes}}'' for DS RPGs. Both ''Spectrobes'' and ''Pokémon Diamond and Pearl'' came out around the same time, inciting massive arguments about which one has better gameplay, graphics, and story.
* Within the BeatEmUp genre, ''FinalFight'' vs. ''StreetsOfRage''.
* Within the ''VideoGame/StarFox'' franchise, those who played ''VideoGame/StarFox1'' vs. those who started with ''VideoGame/StarFox64'' vs those who like ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' [[RuleOfThree vs]] those who prefer ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault'' [[OverlyLongGag vs]] those who '''[[FanDumb dared]]''' to call ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'' a good game, or even [[FanonDiscontinuity consider it canon]][[hottip:*:though this particular example has actually fallen victim to CanonDiscontinuity]]. Depending on which side you are on you may or may not find that members of other [[BrokenBase base fragments]] actually team up on you.

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