History DethroningMoment / WesternAnimationOther

* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheBadBatch'':

* Tropers/MathsAngelicVersion: A scene from "The Great Race", a ''[[WesternAnimation/CareBears1980s Care Bears 1986]]'' episode. There's a race, and the prize is becoming King for a day. This concept is stupid, as evidenced by the fact that there's a villain out to win the race and abuse the power. Unsurprisingly, he cheats. The [=DMoS=] is when he pours concrete into a water pit and makes a bear fall into it. Once the concrete sets, he/she[[note]]I don't remember the victim's gender, and frankly, I don't care[[/note]] can barely move. Wow. That's cruel. I know he's a villain, but this is supposed to be a cute children's cartoon. To make matters worse, the episode didn't make it clear that the victim ever recovered, so [[FridgeHorror I assumed that he/she was stuck like that forever]]. This made such a big impression on my younger self that I never watched another ''Care Bears'' episode, and didn't even give ''WesternAnimation/GummiBears'' a proper chance simply because I associated brightly coloured cartoon bears with this stupid moment.

* Tropers/Ralph180: I removed my DMOS for ''WesternAnimation/ZigAndSharko'''s "Hair Story" because I still watch ''Zig & Sharko'', and I decided to put another one: the "Bride of the Internet" from ''[[WesternAnimation/MonstersVsAliens2013 Monsters vs. Aliens]]''. Now, unlike Zig & Sharko, ''Monsters vs. Aliens'' TV Series is a bad show. It made everyone look uglier (except for General Monger), made Monsters a dysfunctional team of lousy "heroes" who dick around the base, and added three cliched aliens: Sqweep, [[ObviouslyEvil Coverton]], and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Sta'abi]], who come off as insecure (Sqweep), lame (Coverton) or outright xenophobic (Sta'abi)! But what really made me quit this failure of a show is this episode. Basically, because of a video [[{{Squick}} involving pickles on Susan's butt]], Sqweep reveals that the Internet is an alien and is Sqweep's former classmate. Internet does erase the video, but he falls in love with Susan and even manages to change the American national anthem to a lame Justin Bieber-esque song that Susan loves. Now, Internet isn't that bad of a character and is probably the only sympathetic alien character in the show. My problem is about the juvenile internet jokes, the sheer stupidity of the whole Internet being an alien, and the writers think that humans are completely obsessed with the Internet, think that if a video doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, and that they love cat jokes. Also, the episode is annoying and the song is just irritating. To think that Dreamworks made this is disgusting, and this show thinks it's still relevant.

* Tropers/BeTheFire: ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'': "Sense and Insensitivity". King was an absolute dick in this episode. I know it's his thing, but one of the things that keeps him likable is that his dickish moments toward Luz are mild, fleeting, and few and far in between. Here, over the course of the entire episode, he insults her contributions, takes credit for her work, and expects her to collaborate with him for more writing while further insulting her contributions to her face. King is my favorite character and he's usually funny, so I was excited to watch a King-centric episode (unlike Hooty, he could carry an episode by himself) only to be disappointed. "Really Small Problems" follows a similar format (Luz and King spend time together, and King goes behind Luz's back to do something she wouldn't like), but he's much more likable there, given the circumstances. In fact, he was so nice in that episode, I wasn't entirely sure it was in character for him.

* Cknowpursue: ''WesternAnimation/SheRaAndThePrincessesOfPower'': While I admittedly had a foot out the door since Frosta's spontaneous character rewrite in season two, what really kicked it off the edge was Catra's decision to flip the switch in "Moment of Truth". Up to this point Catra had been portrayed as a sympathetic character, a woobie, and a general anti hero in the narrative. That moment ended the moment she decided to flip that switch. Because that switch just happened to be the "End all the world as we know it" switch, as both the audience and the characters knew. And that's just straight up villain territory. And there's no coming back from or reasonable justification for that, regardless of how far the narrative tried to stretch her backstory, causing it to look more and more Freudian by the moment and just didn't add up. Especially afterwards where they still tried to play her character for depth and sympathy after purposefully trying to end the world, with little to no consequences in sight, and most characters waving off the consequences and events experienced as some sort of in universe Big-Lipped Alligator Moment, and a possible redemption arc in sight for her. The person that willingly and knowingly tried to destroy the world. Yeah, that broke my suspension of disbelief and I've sworn it off here since.

* Tropers/Numberguy6: My personal DMOS for ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheBadBatch'' is in the Season 1 finale, when Omega jumps into the water to save AZI-3 after his HeroicSacrifice. This is such a monumentally stupid decision: Omega is more than five meters below the water surface, and AZI-3 is made of metal, so she should know that there is no way for her to hold her breath long enough to bring AZI-3 up. In fact, the only reason that she and AZI-3 are still alive is that Crosshair saved them, which was a total shock to the rest of the Batch. But the worst part? Hunter doesn't scold or reprimand Omega at any point for risking her own life.

* [=SampaCM=]: I'll start by telling I didn't have a good experience with the animated adaptations of my favorite video games, ''[[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfZelda1989 The Legend of Zelda]]'', ''WesternAnimation/MegaManRubySpears'' and [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow The]] [[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSuperMarioBros3 Mario]] [[WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld trilogy]] kept me from trying the actual games for years, because I was afraid of what I was going to find (For instance, I avoided playing ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaI'' because I was concerned about meeting the cocky, goggles-wearing Simon Belmont from ''WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster''). However, there is one moment in particular that made me angry like anything else: The episode "A Little Learning" from ''Super Mario World''. In this episode, Iggy and Lemmy Koopa (I refuse to call them their cartoon names) are attending school, run by Princess Toadstool, along with Yoshi and (*sigh*) [[TheScrappy Oogtar]]. As expected, there are fights between the two pairs, with the princess even blaming Oogtar for a fight that was clearly started by the Koopa siblings (She's technically correct, as Oogtar got them into trouble, to begin with). But the very worst moment comes at the end: at the science fair, Iggy and Lemmy built a volcano, which uses real lava! At first, it seems they know what they're doing, but goes out of control due to Bowser's meddling, so the school gets destroyed, and Iggy, Lemmy, and Bowser are thrown down a warp pipe back to the Neon Castle. Now that episode made me angry for various reasons: Iggy and Lemmy really wanted to go to school, but Oogtar, who was being more of a {{Jerkass}} than usual, got them into trouble with the princess, which is the reason why they decided to start a fight, and showing them off in the science fair, and in the end, they were expelled for an accident that was Bowser's fault, essentially ruining the chance of a HeelFaceTurn by the siblings.
** [=SenorCornholio=]: Admittedly, these cartoons are sometimes a guilty pleasure of mine because of how SoBadItsGood they can get. But even I can admit when a truly bad episode comes about. And I'm listing a moment from ''[[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfZelda1989 The Legend of Zelda]]'' here, mainly because it used to be part of the above show when it was called ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioBrosSuperShow''. It had the usual Creator/DiCEntertainment cheese, some interesting scenarios, epic monster designs reminiscent of [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI the first]] [[VideoGame/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink two games]] that were out at that time, and a Zelda that was a genuine ActionGirl compared to the DamselInDistress she was in those games. However, the final broadcast episode of the show, "The Moblins Are Revolting", was just infuriating. The premise, of course, is that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Ganon's minions revolt against him due to one too many failures]], trap him in a bubble that can only be burst with the Triforce of Power, and throw him down a BottomlessPit (go ahead, make your [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames CD-i jokes]]). Their attempts to take the Triforce of Wisdom [[EpicFail end as you would expect]], without Link or Zelda fighting them. Seeing this, the two in question come to the conclusion that Ganon isn't home, and so go to take the Triforce of Power, which is guarded by a sole Dodongo that is soundly defeated. And here's where my moment starts: just as they're about to take it, Ganon arrives after figuring out how to escape the pit, but can't even do anything from inside his bubble. So instead of ignoring Ganon, or trying to keep him from the Triforce, [[IdiotHero Link]] decides to fool around and toss him like a volleyball, right onto the Triforce of Power, thus freeing Ganon and allowing him to resume his dark designs. Zelda is naturally pissed at him, to which Link tries to remedy the situation with an "[[WellExcuseMePrincess Excuuuuse me, princess]]" and then after Zelda storms off, comments that "at least I still have a job". [[HarsherInHindsight And then the series stopped until Captain N gave it a proper sendoff.]] I normally don't have that much of a problem with Link in this show, but here, I just wanted to slap him. He came across as probably less competent in that one scene than all of Ganon's minions combined and didn't even show any remorse for it. If the Triforce of Courage ever got introduced in this show before its untimely discontinuation, it'd take a miracle for me to believe this inept moron deserved it. Heck, CD-i Link, for all his MemeticMutation, actually came off as more of a hero. AndThatsTerrible!

* BunnyStar: While I do like ''WesternAnimation/KipoAndTheAgeOfWonderbeasts'', there's one moment in the season 3 episode "Wolf in Wolf's Clothing", where Benson and Dave both think that Margot literally wants to stab Wolf in the back. I'd expect Dave to believe this since he's [[TheDitz a pea brain]], but I'd expect Benson to be smart enough to know about figures of speech.
* Tropers/{{OrdinaryTroper}}: I'm not going to pretend that ''WesternAnimation/NexoKnights'' is peak fiction. In fact, I think it fails even at properly promoting the very toy series it was meant to promote, but I still have a soft spot for it. However, the series seems to have a trend of [[UpperClassTwit Lance Richmond]] acting like an asshole for an entire episode and not learning his lesson. While "The Golden Castle" ended with him getting payback and ultimately wasn't a bad episode, "Greed is Good?" from an otherwise good Season 2 is what I believe is the first truly bad ''Nexo Knights'' episode. To recap: Lance loses both his parents and the wealth when they are stolen by Lava Monsters, but couldn't care less for the former [[DisproportionateRetribution since they forced him to attend the Knights' Academy]], and spends the episode whining about becoming poor and having to work for money (by selling his autographed photos). It's hard to root for his parents either, considering they spoiled their son rotten and then had the gall to call him a "disappointment". In short, not only the episode left a bad taste in my mouth, but it buried Lance's potential of becoming a complex and truly likeable character for the sake of more half-baked jokes.

** Loekman3: The diary incident in ''Lost in Language'' made me really uncomfortable to watch (and not in a good way) and gave Amity a complete JerkassBall moment even for her. See, her older twin siblings guided Luz to her secret hideout where they plan to leak her diary entries to the public just to teach her a lesson and Luz upon realizing this snatched it way from them. Then come Amity and when she sees this, assume that Luz is on board with it, even having the gal to call her a bully, never mind that even ignoring the fact that she never bothered to let Luz explain herself, continually push her away even when Luz tried to befriend her. As for Edric and Emira? Not only did they not clarify the misunderstanding but pretty much left Luz to bear the brunt of her anger. However what made me truly upset about this scene is that this moment just gets completely glossed over. We never learned whether or not Amity realized the misunderstanding or Luz explained about it and the twins just gets EasilyForgiven the next time that we see them again. Frankly, there is no reason for the incident to be changed so that Amity learned of Luz defending her and made it the first time that she starts warming up to Luz with the Otabin moment to be the cherry on top.

* Tropers/Nightfurywitch: Okay, I admit it. I was peer pressured into watching ''WesternAnimation/Centaurworld'' and ended up really liking it. Even in spite of the occasional fart joke or gag that just didn't land, the show's first season was pretty dang funny and had some AMAZING music. However, there is one bit from this season I haven't been able to shake. In "Holes: Part 2" (Don't ask about Part 1), the herd gets captured and arrested by a group of moletaurs that hold them captive in a corrupt trial. Long story short, Horse manages to get the judge to let them go, gets the key part they need, everything seems hunky-dory...aaand Glendale tunnels up from underground in a jailbreak. Yea everyone else just...forgot about her. I admit this scene is REALLY funny in the moment, but looking back on it it feels...wrong. I can buy most of the herd forgetting about Glendale (Horse seems like she really only cares about Wammawink as of now, Zulius only cares about himself, and Durpleton is....Durpleton.) But Wammawink????? Literally her main character trait when we're introduced to her and the point of her arc in Season One is she's INSANELY overprotective of her herd- I can't buy her forgetting about Glendale, let alone shrugging it off this easily.

* Shadow200: I've never been a big fan of ''WesternAnimation/TheProudFamily'' but its reboot ''WesternAnimation/TheProudFamilyLouderAndProuder'' angered me with the episode "The End of Innocence" with how they treated Zoey. A celebrity picks her to go on a date with him and it looks like she's being thrown a [[ThrowTheDogABone bone]] for once. Instead of being happy for her however, her "ahem" friends, including Penny who's supposed to be the nice one in comparison to the assholes known as Lacienga and Diijonay get angry and treat her like she's deformed and sub-human for being picked over them. Never mind that they've already got boyfriends and spend the whole episode treating her like dirt. And what is the real dethroning moment is that they prove to be right in the end as he only wanted to date her because he only dates white girls, thus bringing racism in as the cherry on top of a bad episode. Disney, what were you thinking about this? I'm almost tempted to cancel my Disney+ subscription. Go back to your drawing board and blow it up.

* Tropers/{{Merseyuser1}}: I've only seen ''WesternAnimation/UncleGrandpa'' now and then, but "The Fan", Season 2, Episode 7, is an episode that's a BrokenAesop, as the [[AnAesop moral put forward]] is "Don't be a fan over-obsessed with things", but the ending where Uncle Grandpa melts all Nubert Nimbo's toys to make a molding of Nubert's mom is a low point; it seems to put forward the point "It's OK to vandalize other people's possessions to get someone out of an obsession", which contradicts the moral of the show. Yes, Nubert was [[NoSocialSkills socially awkward]], but it doesn't excuse Uncle Grandpa's behavior. The moral of "there's more to life than a TV show" is a [[StockAesops Stock Aesop]], but this fell into CluelessAesop mixed with BrokenAesop, and the episode is one to avoid if you think it's a jab at fandoms in general.

* [=Booplesnoot=]: I'm not a fan of the third season of ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'' in general for a variety of reasons (a frustratingly inconsistent tone, Hop Pop becoming insufferable), but the final episode really cemented my dislike for this particular chapter of an otherwise good show. To recap, the second-to-last episode featured an evil salamander king and his army of robots rampaging through Los Angeles, blowing up buildings and cars and fighting the heroes in the streets. The final episode is a DistantFinale that takes place ten years later, and it's mentioned that apparently, people now think the whole thing was a hoax. What makes this a Dethroning Moment isn't just the fact that it broke my suspension of disbelief, but also that it went against one of the core themes that the show had, up to that point, been building towards-- namely, that change is important and can't be reversed. What better way to illustrate that than to show Earth and Amphibia learning to coexist with each other, perhaps with Anne and her friends as ambassadors between the two worlds? But no, we don't get that. I know the ending to ''WesternAnimation/StarVersusTheForcesOfEvil'' got a lot of flack, but at least they understood that you can't just go back to the way things were after something like this!

* Tropers/{{InsertCleverNameHere}}: The episode of ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'' where Clara has to tend to a sick Wooldoor (whose illness, mind you, is indirectly her fault), [[ItMakesSenseInContext and she abuses him just so she can keep getting good publicity]]. I understand that [[UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist this show's cast isn't meant to be likeable]], but Clara's actions are just too much for me to find funny, and this episode and many other ones pretty much solidified my dislike for her.

* Tropers/{{flowerfun}} ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss''' second season at already been on thin ice for me for a while up until this point but the moment where I officially lost my patience for this came in the fourth episode, Western Energy, where it's revealed that Blitz and Stolas's conflict in Ozzies god resolved by...a blink and you'll miss it text message. Are you serious? We are resolving a conflict with this much depth in season 1 that looked like it could have been explored and developed more...with a ''text message''??? This felt like such a slap in the face to the people who wanted to see where the show went with this conflict after the season 1 finale and what we got was THIS?! It was so infuriating and underwhelming that I officially lost my patience with this season.

* Tropers/PyroWildcat: In ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManUnlimited'', the end of "One is the Loneliest Number", when Dr. Yamato-Jones chews out Spider-Man for destroying her clinic. She had dealt with Spider-Man on numerous occasions (including several in which Spidey saved the lives of both her and her son), and has been shown to be okay with him. Which means that she should have had no reason to blatantly ignore the fact that the incident started by Carnage attacking the clinic, and he and Venom were obviously the ones who did all the damage while Spider-Man was trying to fight them off, especially since she's been shown to be [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure a more reasonable character than that]]. This was blatantly another poorly shoehorned-in "Franchise/SpiderMan will never be anything but a FailureHero" moment.

* Tropers/{{Grotadmorv}}: Having binged ''WesternAnimation/KampKoral'' out of boredom, I can safely say it's one of the emptiest and least engaging shows I've seen. While there's plenty of bad moments I could name, I'm going to go with the ending of "The Taste of Defeat". The episode follows Plankton trying to sabotage Narlene's new restaurant. It's nothing too terrible for the first nine minutes or so, but when Plankton sneaks in to steal the recipe, we get one of the [[NauseaFuel most disgusting scenes in the SpongeBob franchise]] (spoilered): [[spoiler:Narlene rubbing her feet all over the food, shredding her toenails into the soup, and serving it to kids.]] Understandably, the kids are [[IAteWhat disgusted]]. But Narlene, being the CreatorsPet she is, needs to come on top! So she makes Plankton WorkOffTheDebt by working for her, and by that she means [[spoiler:grabbing him with her feet and using him to scrub plates]]. Yes, Plankton was also lying about the food he made, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality but it's apparently fine when Narlene does the same thing?]] These last few minutes quickly tanked the entire episode and I'd call it the worst of the series. [[SeasonalRot So far.]]

* Tropers/{{Dghcrh}}: ''WesternAnimation/{{Oswald}}'' was a decent cartoon when I was young. The episode where Oswald stays overnight at Henry is good for the most part, but there is a really annoying RunningGag about a tortoise trying to climb the stairs. Oswald passes by it several times when he wants to take something from his apartment, but all he does is say "Good evening" every single time. The tortoise obviously doesn't want to be greeted over and over again, it just wants to get on top of the stairs, but Oswald doesn't think once to help it. In the morning, the tortoise sighs in frustration after Oswald repeats the process, but with "Good morning".