History DethroningMoment / Metroid

*** {{Tropers/Mightymoose101}} The absolute worst part of the scene? From a storytelling and overall narrative standpoint, it's completely pointless. The incident itself is never referred to again, Samus doesn't grow as a character from it and Adam doesn't seem even slightly upset that she got one of his men killed, Ridley is killed offscreen, denying Samus both the chance at avenging Anthony or facing her demons, the most Samus seems to think of Anthony afterwards is a brief musing on whether or not he was awake as he horribly burned alive in lava, and Anthony himself comes back to life through a sequence of events so contrived they had to have added it only to make Samus seem less incompetent. In short, Sakamoto reintroduced a character flaw Samus already overcame in a prior story for the sole purpose of overcoming it again, and then doesn't bother seeing it through.
*** {{Tropers/Gemidori}}: This is more of a consistency flaw as everything else about this scene has been picked out - but if Sakamoto was going to keep true to the manga's continuity (which would not gel well with the games themselves anyway), why not have Ridley speak? The reason behind Samus' PTSD relapse is in part due to his BreakingSpeech, which shows just how much apathy he has for the deaths of her parents and colony. It was not just because he was shrieking at her constantly with no coherence. It's understandable that Ridley never spoke in the games themselves, but that just serves to be another reason as to why the manga should be treated as LooseCanon.

*** {{Tropers/Gemidori}}: This is more of a consistency flaw as everything else about this scene has been picked out - but if Sakamoto was going to keep true to the manga's continuity (which would not gel well with the games themselves anyway), why not have Ridley speak? The reason behind her PTSD relapse is in part due to his BreakingSpeech, which shows just how much apathy he has for the deaths of her parents and colony. It was not just because he was shrieking at her constantly with no coherence. It's understandable that Ridley never spoke in the games themselves, but that just serves to be another reason as to why the manga should be treated as LooseCanon.

* [=SenorCornholio=]: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

* [=Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}]=: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? So a decision that could impact millions of lives across the galaxy wasn't even legal because nobody gave her the option to do that? Um...since when? I'd merely facepalm in disgust if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.

* Tropers/{{SenorCornholio}}: My personal [=DMoS=] is the {{Retcon}} to the Baby Metroid's transport to the Galactic Federation. It was set up in VideoGame/MetroidIIReturnOfSamus, and made into the catalyst for VideoGame/SuperMetroid's events; Samus took it to the scientists at Ceres Station so they could work on it to help the galaxy, which the scientists there were clearly thankful for. Then Samus leaves, [[ForegoneConclusion Ridley kills everyone there and takes the Metroid, start game]]. Other M's take on this, on the other hand, is that it was "a clear and blatant violation of protocol." Okay, [[FlatWhat what]]? I'd merely facepalm if it weren't for the ending, where The Colonel ([[NoNameGiven who doesn't have a name, by the way]]) [[UngratefulBastard uses said event as an excuse for Samus to leave.]] You know, it's one thing to [[BadassDecay make a badass character look like a scared little girl,]] but it's quite another to take a large, steaming dump all over the events of VideoGame/SuperMetroid for the sake of your story, especially if it involves victimizing Samus for basically doing her job. If there was any doubt that VideoGame/MetroidOtherM was a bastardization of Samus and the entire ''Metroid'' franchise even ''after'' [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic the motherhood symbolism]], [[{{Chickification}} the Ridley scene]], [[DesignatedHero Adam's]] [[{{Glurge}} sacrifice]], [[PoliceAreUseless the Galactic Federation's idiocy]], [[AntiClimaxBoss the fight against MB]], and [[ShaggyDogStory Samus' overall uselessness to the plot]], then this to me removed all of those doubts.