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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl".[[note]]It's easily gotten to the point where DC Comics themselves have made jokes about this issue numerous times, though some have argued this actually exacerbates the problem by causing more writers to want to try and "fix" the snarl all over again with the potential to only make the problem worse.[[/note]] Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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[[Characters/WonderGirlDonnaTroy Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Darkstar. Wonder Woman. ]] Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl".[[note]]It's easily gotten to the point where DC Comics themselves have made jokes about this issue numerous times, though some have argued this actually exacerbates the problem by causing more writers to want to try and "fix" the snarl all over again with the potential to only make the problem worse.[[/note]] Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.
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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". [[note]]It's easily gotten to the point where DC Comics themselves have made jokes about this issue numerous times, though some have argued this actually exacerbates the problem by causing more writers to want to try and "fix" the snarl all over again with the potential to only make the problem worse.[[/note]] Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.
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* She was brought back in a prelude to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again). The storyline also brought up a fact that there were multiple Donnas across the Multiverse, which became nothing more than a confusing mess. Her origin was changed once again: She is still kidnapped by Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.
* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense, but this version of the character was pretty reviled, so DC fucked things up ''again!'' The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there ''was'' a team called the Teen Titans (consisting of Donna, Dick Grayson, Roy Harper, Garth, Lilith Clay, Hawk and Dove and later also Wally West (who stayed forgotten after the story)), erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy, who was Wonder Girl. Which does not make sense, since she was created recently, and as an adult.
* Then came ComicBook/DCRebirth, which had Donna state that she was an orphan raised by the Amazons. This is obviously in direct conflict with her origin in the New 52, but hey, whatever, right? Well, it's later revealed that she ''is'' still the New 52 clay Donna Troy, and her false memories of being an orphan raised by the Amazons were given to her ''by'' the Amazons to give her a fresh start as a superhero. How this even works, with the New 52 Amazons being revealed to be an illusion in ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' remains to be seen, as well as the fact that, in the ''Rebirth'' timeline, Donna was still Wonder Girl, which couldn't have been possible with the clay Donna, who's about a year old, if you wanna push it. Not only that, but Wally West is established as having been protected from the numerous memory-altering hijinks going on, so it's doubtful that what the Amazons did could affect him, and he ''remembers'' Donna being Wonder Girl!

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* She was brought back in a prelude to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again). The storyline also brought up a fact that there were multiple Donnas across the Multiverse, which became nothing more than a confusing mess. Her origin was changed once again: She is was still kidnapped by Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.
* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made appeared to make sense, but this version of the character was pretty reviled, so DC fucked things up ''again!'' widely reviled by readers. The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there ''was'' a team called the Teen Titans (consisting of Donna, Dick Grayson, Roy Harper, Garth, Lilith Clay, Hawk and Dove and later also Wally West (who stayed forgotten after the story)), erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy, who was Wonder Girl. Which does not make sense, since she was created recently, and as an adult.
* Then came ComicBook/DCRebirth, which had Donna state that she was an orphan raised by the Amazons. This is obviously in direct conflict with her origin in the New 52, but hey, whatever, right? Well, 52. But it's later revealed that she ''is'' still the New 52 clay Donna Troy, and her false memories of being an orphan raised by the Amazons were given to her ''by'' the Amazons to give her a fresh start as a superhero. How this even works, with the New 52 Amazons being revealed to be an illusion in ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' remains to be seen, as well as the fact that, in the ''Rebirth'' timeline, Donna was still Wonder Girl, which couldn't have been possible with the clay Donna, who's technically about a year old, if you wanna push it. Not only that, but Wally West is established as having been protected from the numerous memory-altering hijinks events going on, so it's doubtful that what the Amazons did could affect him, and he ''remembers'' Donna being Wonder Girl!Girl.
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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created ComicBook/WonderGirl as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character ComicBook/WonderGirl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her a SuperheroOrigin. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 1980s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then came ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But is raised the question: what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no purple ray, so what about Donna's powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with {{fake memories}}. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.
* And [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1987 now what]]? Now... yet another origin story. Now, Donna was a mirror reflection of Wonder Woman brought to life to be her friend, and got kidnapped by Dark Angel, who (thinking that she had kidnapped the real Wonder Woman) cursed her to live several traumatic lives. She is saved by Flash and Wonder Woman, and re-adopted by Hippolyta, but with a slight problem: She is not the "real" Donna, but a new one re-created from the memories of Wally and Diana. And then, she was killed by a rogue Superman robot. The end? Hell, no.
* She was brought back in a prelude to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again!). If we can avoid talking about the part about the Donnas of the multiverse, so much the better. Her origin was changed once again: We keep the part of Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.

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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created ComicBook/WonderGirl as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That This implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was during the 1950s and '60s, and nobody hardly any writer paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey.This necessitated making this "Young Wonder Woman" to be a completely separate character from Diana. They named the character ComicBook/WonderGirl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her a SuperheroOrigin. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 1980s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the her origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then came ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. [[note]] [[{{Administrivia/TropesAreTools}} This turned out to be a good thing, at least for Wonder Woman]]. There have been ''many'' inconsistent and even outright poor runs of the character for over 40 years after the creator's death. [[{{Creator/George Perez}} George Perez's]] [[{{ComicBook/WonderWoman1987}} Wonder Woman Run]] was a critical & commercial success that breathed new life into the character, and [[MyRealDaddy continues to serve as the basis of virtually every following run and adaptation for Wonder Woman]] [[/note]] However, The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But is raised the question: what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no purple ray, so what about Donna's powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with {{fake memories}}. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.
* And then, when [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1987 now what]]? Now... yet another Wonder Woman]] finally crossed paths with Donna, ''another new origin story.story'' was created. Now, Donna was a mirror reflection of Wonder Woman brought to life to be her friend, and got kidnapped by Dark Angel, who (thinking that she had kidnapped the real Wonder Woman) cursed her to live several traumatic lives. She is saved by Flash [[{{Characters/TheFlashWallyWest}} The Flash]] and Wonder Woman, and re-adopted by Hippolyta, but with a slight problem: She is not the "real" Donna, but a new one re-created from the memories of Wally and Diana. And then, she was killed by a rogue Superman robot. The end? Hell, no.
Of course, this would not be the end...
* She was brought back in a prelude to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again!). If we can avoid talking about the part about the (again). The storyline also brought up a fact that there were multiple Donnas of across the multiverse, so much the better. Multiverse, which became nothing more than a confusing mess. Her origin was changed once again: We keep the part of She is still kidnapped by Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.
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* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 1980s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then, they screw it with ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But then, what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no purple ray, so what about Donna's powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with {{fake memories}}. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.

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* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 1980s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then, they screw it with then came ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But then, is raised the question: what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no purple ray, so what about Donna's powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with {{fake memories}}. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.
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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created ComicBook/WonderGirl as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character ComicBook/WonderGirl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.

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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created ComicBook/WonderGirl as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character ComicBook/WonderGirl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory.a SuperheroOrigin. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. ContinuitySnarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. ContinuitySnarl".Continuity Snarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.
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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl".ContinuitySnarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Who is Donna Troy, you asked? Well, that's... complicated]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Who is Donna Troy, you asked? Well, that's... complicated]]complicated.]]

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* At this point, all the Titans are now adults, and not "teens" anymore. What to do with an adult Donna Troy? Simple: marriage and children. She gives up her powers, to have a normal pregnancy, but her husband and children died shortly afterwards. And now? What can we do with a powerless Donna Troy? She joined the Darkstars, who got power suits.



* She was brought back in a prequel to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again!). If we can avoid talking about the part about the Donnas of the multiverse, so much the better. Her origin was changed once again: We keep the part of Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.

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* She was brought back in a prequel prelude to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again!). If we can avoid talking about the part about the Donnas of the multiverse, so much the better. Her origin was changed once again: We keep the part of Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.
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* And now what? Now... yet another origin story. Now, Donna was a mirror reflection of Wonder Woman brought to life to be her friend, and got kidnapped by Dark Angel, who (thinking that she had kidnapped the real Wonder Woman) cursed her to live several traumatic lives. She is saved by Flash and Wonder Woman, and re-adopted by Hippolyta, but with a slight problem: She is not the "real" Donna, but a new one re-created from the memories of Wally and Diana. And then, she was killed by a rogue Superman robot. The end? Hell, no.

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* And [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1987 now what? what]]? Now... yet another origin story. Now, Donna was a mirror reflection of Wonder Woman brought to life to be her friend, and got kidnapped by Dark Angel, who (thinking that she had kidnapped the real Wonder Woman) cursed her to live several traumatic lives. She is saved by Flash and Wonder Woman, and re-adopted by Hippolyta, but with a slight problem: She is not the "real" Donna, but a new one re-created from the memories of Wally and Diana. And then, she was killed by a rogue Superman robot. The end? Hell, no.
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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character ComicBook/WonderGirl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.

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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created the character ComicBook/WonderGirl as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character ComicBook/WonderGirl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
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* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 1980s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then, they screw it with ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But then, what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no purple ray, so what about Donna's powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with fake memories. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.

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* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 1980s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then, they screw it with ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But then, what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no purple ray, so what about Donna's powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with fake memories.{{fake memories}}. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.
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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.

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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, ComicBook/WonderGirl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks"[[note]]By the late '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.
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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks" with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks" sidekicks"[[note]]By the '90s, ComicBook/YoungJustice had taken over that specific premise[[/note]] with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl". \n Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks" with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.



* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense, but this version of the character was pretty reviled, so DC fucked thigns up ''again!'' The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy, who was Wonder Girl. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.
* Then came ComicBook/DCRebirth, which had Donna state that she was an orphan raised by the Amazons. This is obviously in direct conflict with her origin in the New 52, but hey, whatever, right? Well, it's later revealed that she ''is'' still the New 52 clay Donna Troy, and her false memories of being an orphan raised by the Amazons were given to her ''by'' the Amazons to give her a fresh start as a superhero. How this even works, with the New 52 Amazons being revealed to be an illusion in ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' remains to be seen, as well as the fact that, in the ''Rebirth'' timeline, Donna was Wonder Girl, which couldn't have been possible with the clay Donna, who's about a year old, if you wanna push it. Not only that, but Wally West is established as having been protected from the numerous memory-altering hijinks going on, so it's doubtful that what the Amazons did could affect him!
* Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks" with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.

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* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense, but this version of the character was pretty reviled, so DC fucked thigns things up ''again!'' The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was ''was'' a team once, called the Teen Titans (consisting of Donna, Dick Grayson, Roy Harper, Garth, Lilith Clay, Hawk and Dove and later also Wally West (who stayed forgotten after the story)), erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy, who was Wonder Girl. Which does not make sense, if since she was created recently, and as an adult.
* Then came ComicBook/DCRebirth, which had Donna state that she was an orphan raised by the Amazons. This is obviously in direct conflict with her origin in the New 52, but hey, whatever, right? Well, it's later revealed that she ''is'' still the New 52 clay Donna Troy, and her false memories of being an orphan raised by the Amazons were given to her ''by'' the Amazons to give her a fresh start as a superhero. How this even works, with the New 52 Amazons being revealed to be an illusion in ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' remains to be seen, as well as the fact that, in the ''Rebirth'' timeline, Donna was still Wonder Girl, which couldn't have been possible with the clay Donna, who's about a year old, if you wanna push it. Not only that, but Wally West is established as having been protected from the numerous memory-altering hijinks going on, so it's doubtful that what the Amazons did could affect him!
* Long story short, the issue at the heart of Donna's continuity is that no-one at DC can (or wants to) decide whether the ''Wonder Woman'' title or the ''Teen Titans'' title gets the last word on her. There are arguments for both camps; from a historical perspective
him, and he ''remembers'' Donna literally wouldn't ''exist'' as a character without ''Teen Titans'' canonizing her as being Wonder Woman's sidekick, and she's much more well-remembered as a member of the Titans than a member of Wonder Woman's supporting cast, but her code-name and appearance all ''demand'' consistency with Wonder Woman's settings. Further complicating things, the Titans drift further from the original premise of "club for JLA sidekicks" with every reboot; even ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}, being a ''former'' sidekick, arguably doesn't fit it anymore.Girl!

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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.

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* Things started in the very beginning. William Moulton Marston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and [[ComicBook/TeenTitans with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time, time]], things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.


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* Things started in the very beginning. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.

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* Things started in the very beginning. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston William Moulton Marston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.



* Then came DCRebirth, which had Donna state that she was an orphan raised by the Amazons. This is obviously in direct conflict with her origin in the New 52, but hey, whatever, right? Well, it's later revealed that she ''is'' still the New 52 clay Donna Troy, and her false memories of being an orphan raised by the Amazons were given to her ''by'' the Amazons to give her a fresh start as a superhero. How this even works, with the New 52 Amazons being revealed to be an illusion in ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' remains to be seen, as well as the fact that, in the ''Rebirth'' timeline, Donna was Wonder Girl, which couldn't have been possible with the clay Donna, who's about a year old, if you wanna push it. Not only that, but Wally West is established as having been protected from the numerous memory-altering hijinks going on, so it's doubtful that what the Amazons did could affect him!

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* Then came DCRebirth, ComicBook/DCRebirth, which had Donna state that she was an orphan raised by the Amazons. This is obviously in direct conflict with her origin in the New 52, but hey, whatever, right? Well, it's later revealed that she ''is'' still the New 52 clay Donna Troy, and her false memories of being an orphan raised by the Amazons were given to her ''by'' the Amazons to give her a fresh start as a superhero. How this even works, with the New 52 Amazons being revealed to be an illusion in ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' remains to be seen, as well as the fact that, in the ''Rebirth'' timeline, Donna was Wonder Girl, which couldn't have been possible with the clay Donna, who's about a year old, if you wanna push it. Not only that, but Wally West is established as having been protected from the numerous memory-altering hijinks going on, so it's doubtful that what the Amazons did could affect him!him!
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* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense. And then... DC broke it again! The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.
* DCRebirth has implied that an outside force has been messing with both the timeline (i.e. removing 10 years) and everyone's memories (e.g. [[spoiler: of pre-Flashpoint Wally West]]). It seems a case of "why should Donna Troy and Hawkman have all the fun"...

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* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense. And then... sense, but this version of the character was pretty reviled, so DC broke it again! fucked thigns up ''again!'' The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy.Troy, who was Wonder Girl. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.
* DCRebirth has implied Then came DCRebirth, which had Donna state that she was an outside force has been messing orphan raised by the Amazons. This is obviously in direct conflict with both her origin in the timeline (i.e. removing 10 years) New 52, but hey, whatever, right? Well, it's later revealed that she ''is'' still the New 52 clay Donna Troy, and everyone's her false memories (e.g. [[spoiler: of pre-Flashpoint being an orphan raised by the Amazons were given to her ''by'' the Amazons to give her a fresh start as a superhero. How this even works, with the New 52 Amazons being revealed to be an illusion in ''ComicBook/WonderWomanRebirth'' remains to be seen, as well as the fact that, in the ''Rebirth'' timeline, Donna was Wonder Girl, which couldn't have been possible with the clay Donna, who's about a year old, if you wanna push it. Not only that, but Wally West]]). It seems a case of "why should Donna Troy and Hawkman have all West is established as having been protected from the fun"...numerous memory-altering hijinks going on, so it's doubtful that what the Amazons did could affect him!
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* Things started in the very beginning. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston created ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.

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* Things started in the very beginning. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston created the character as a young ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell her adventures during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 1950s and '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other superhero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
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* DCRebirth has implied that an outiside force has been messing with both the timeline (i.e. removing 10 years) and everyone's memories (e.g. [[spoiler: of pre-Flashpoint Wally West]]). It seems a case of why should Donna Troy and Hawkman have all the fun.

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* DCRebirth has implied that an outiside outside force has been messing with both the timeline (i.e. removing 10 years) and everyone's memories (e.g. [[spoiler: of pre-Flashpoint Wally West]]). It seems a case of why "why should Donna Troy and Hawkman have all the fun.fun"...
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* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense. And then... DC broke it again! The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.

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* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity. She was finally included in ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense. And then... DC broke it again! The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.adult.
* DCRebirth has implied that an outiside force has been messing with both the timeline (i.e. removing 10 years) and everyone's memories (e.g. [[spoiler: of pre-Flashpoint Wally West]]). It seems a case of why should Donna Troy and Hawkman have all the fun.
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* Things started in the very begining. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston, the creator of ComicBook/WonderWoman, created the character, to tell the adventures of Wonder Woman during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolita "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 50s and 60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other super hero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hell. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolita, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 80s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then, they screw it with ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But then, what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no Purple ray, so what about her powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with fake memories. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.
* At this point, all the Titans are now adults, and not "teens" anymore. What to do with an adult Donna Troy? Simple: Marriage and children. She gives up her powers, to have a normal pregnancy; but her husband and children died shortly afterwards. And now? What can we do with a powerless Donna Troy? She joined the Darkstars, who got power suits.
* And now what? Now... yet another origin story. Now, she was a mirror reflection of Wonder Woman brought to life to be her friend, and got kidnapped by Dark Angel, who (thinking that she had kidnapped the real Wonder Woman) cursed her to live several traumatic lifes. She is saved by Flash and Wonder Woman, and re-adopted by Hippolita, but with a slight problem: she is not the "real" Donna, but a new one recreated from the memories of Wally and Diana. And then, she was killed by a rogue Superman robot. The end? Hell, no.
* She was brought back in a prequel to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again!). If we can avoid talking about the part about the Donnas of the multiverse, so much the better. Her origin was changed once again: we keep the part of Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.
* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl (Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity). She was finally included in Wonder Woman #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense. And then... DC broke it again! The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.

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* Things started in the very begining. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston, the creator of ComicBook/WonderWoman, beginning. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston created the character, ComicBook/WonderWoman to tell the her adventures of Wonder Woman during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolita Hippolyta "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 50s 1950s and 60s, '60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other super hero superhero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hell.hey. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolita, Hippolyta, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 80s 1980s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then, they screw it with ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But then, what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no Purple purple ray, so what about her Donna's powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with fake memories. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.
* At this point, all the Titans are now adults, and not "teens" anymore. What to do with an adult Donna Troy? Simple: Marriage marriage and children. She gives up her powers, to have a normal pregnancy; pregnancy, but her husband and children died shortly afterwards. And now? What can we do with a powerless Donna Troy? She joined the Darkstars, who got power suits.
* And now what? Now... yet another origin story. Now, she Donna was a mirror reflection of Wonder Woman brought to life to be her friend, and got kidnapped by Dark Angel, who (thinking that she had kidnapped the real Wonder Woman) cursed her to live several traumatic lifes. lives. She is saved by Flash and Wonder Woman, and re-adopted by Hippolita, Hippolyta, but with a slight problem: she She is not the "real" Donna, but a new one recreated re-created from the memories of Wally and Diana. And then, she was killed by a rogue Superman robot. The end? Hell, no.
* She was brought back in a prequel to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again!). If we can avoid talking about the part about the Donnas of the multiverse, so much the better. Her origin was changed once again: we We keep the part of Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.
* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl (Cassandra Girl: Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity). identity. She was finally included in Wonder Woman ''Wonder Woman'' #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense. And then... DC broke it again! The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.
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Donna Troy. Wonder Girl. Troia. Wonder Woman. Whatever the name, she has fallen into so many cases that we can easily call her "Ms. Continuity Snarl".
* Things started in the very begining. Creator/WilliamMoultonMarston, the creator of ComicBook/WonderWoman, created the character, to tell the adventures of Wonder Woman during her young age (which would be more appealing for kids). She once called Hippolita "Mother". That implies two things: that this character ''is'' Wonder Woman, and that those adventures take place in the past. But it was the 50s and 60s, and nobody paid much attention to details. When this character had team-ups with Wonder Woman first, and with other super hero sidekicks set in the present time, things got out of control. So, what the hell. They named the character Wonder Girl, and Creator/NealAdams gave her an OriginStory. She was Donna Troy, an orphan rescued by Wonder Woman from a building on fire, and taken to Paradise Island. She was raised by Hippolita, and became Wonder Woman's adoptive sister. She received powers similar to those of Wonder Woman from the all-purpose purple ray. And everything was fine... for some time.
* The ComicBook/TeenTitans were relaunched in the 80s by Creator/MarvWolfman and Creator/GeorgePerez. They wrote the story ''ComicBook/WhoIsDonnaTroy'', which [[ExpansionPackPast expanded the origin story]], and still made perfect sense. But then, they screw it with ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths''. The DC Universe was rebooted, and Wonder Woman was redesigned as a rookie who had just arrived to the world of men. The Teen Titans, who were such a big success, were not rebooted. But then, what about Donna's origin? Wonder Woman couldn't have saved her. No Wonder Woman means no Paradise Island and no Purple ray, so what about her powers? It had to be fixed with a new story, ''ComicBook/WhoIsWonderGirl''. The fire rescue is kept, but now she was rescued by the Titans of Myth, who rescued doomed children at several planets, turned them into demigods, and then returned them home with fake memories. No good explanation was given for the name "Wonder Girl" when there was no Wonder Woman, though. She took a new suit and changed her name to Troia.
* At this point, all the Titans are now adults, and not "teens" anymore. What to do with an adult Donna Troy? Simple: Marriage and children. She gives up her powers, to have a normal pregnancy; but her husband and children died shortly afterwards. And now? What can we do with a powerless Donna Troy? She joined the Darkstars, who got power suits.
* And now what? Now... yet another origin story. Now, she was a mirror reflection of Wonder Woman brought to life to be her friend, and got kidnapped by Dark Angel, who (thinking that she had kidnapped the real Wonder Woman) cursed her to live several traumatic lifes. She is saved by Flash and Wonder Woman, and re-adopted by Hippolita, but with a slight problem: she is not the "real" Donna, but a new one recreated from the memories of Wally and Diana. And then, she was killed by a rogue Superman robot. The end? Hell, no.
* She was brought back in a prequel to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. She has now been adopted by the Titans of Myth as one of their own, the goddess of the moon, with fake memories (again!). If we can avoid talking about the part about the Donnas of the multiverse, so much the better. Her origin was changed once again: we keep the part of Dark Angel, but now she was kept frozen for a time, released, and adopted by the Amazons. Now, in the absence of Diana, she became the new Wonder Woman.
* All the DC universe was rebooted with ''ComicBook/New52''. Initially, Donna was absent, and there was another Wonder Girl (Cassandra Sandsmark, who had been a second Wonder Girl in previous years, when Donna had already given up that identity). She was finally included in Wonder Woman #37, created by magic, as an alternative to the throne of the island. Without all the previous baggage, things made sense. And then... DC broke it again! The Titans were incorporated again, and it was stated that there was a team once, erased from public memory by Mr. Twister. But one of the members of this team was a young Donna Troy. Which does not make sense, if she was created recently, and as an adult.

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