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-->'''Ultron:''' "Why?" That is what I ask myself. Now that Earth is conquered, now that humanity is subjugated - what was it for? Revenge? Ideology? Programming? Why? I have the God-Sight now! I see everything! I see inside myself! I see circuits! Subroutines! Looping codes of data! Yet! I! Do not! See ''why''! WHY? '''WHY?'''
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-->'''Ultron:''' "Why?" That ''That'' is what I ''I'' ask myself. Now that Earth is conquered, ''conquered'', now that humanity is subjugated - ''subjugated'' — what was it for? ''for''? Revenge? Ideology? Programming? Why? ''Programming? Why?'' I have the God-Sight ''God-Sight'' now! I see everything! ''everything''! I see inside myself! ''inside myself''! I see circuits! ''circuits! Subroutines! Looping codes Loops of data! data!'' Yet! I! Do not! See ''why''! WHY? '''WHY?'''
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* TimeyWimeyBall: Seven Avengers of five different eras are pulled together to face Ultron; Hulk from early in his existence when his mutation could be relatively random, James Rhodes during his time as Iron Man, Thor when he was afflicted by the curse of Hela (making his bones fragile but Thor himself is basically immortal), Danielle Cage/Captain America from the "future" (by the standards of the current reader), and Vision, Black Widow and the Jane Foster Thor of the "present".
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* AndIMustScream: Loki's in the bad future, as a servant to Ultron. He's converted into nanotechnology and forced to serve Ultron's will. Inbetween the machine gibberish, he manages to plead Thor to help him. So Thor [[MercyKill does]].
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* AndIMustScream: Loki's Loki, in the bad future, as a servant to Ultron. He's BadFuture, is converted into nanotechnology and forced to serve Ultron's will. Inbetween the machine gibberish, he manages to plead Thor to help him. So Thor [[MercyKill does]].
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* AndIMustScream: Loki's in the bad fate, as a servant to Ultron. He's converted into nanotechnology and forced to serve Ultron's will. Inbetween the machine gibberish, he manages to plead Thor to help him. So Thor [[MercyKill does]].
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* AndIMustScream: Loki's in the bad fate, future, as a servant to Ultron. He's converted into nanotechnology and forced to serve Ultron's will. Inbetween the machine gibberish, he manages to plead Thor to help him. So Thor [[MercyKill does]].
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* AndIMustScream: Future!Loki's Loki's in the bad fate, as a servant to Ultron, turned Ultron. He's converted into nanotechnology and forced to serve Ultron's will. Inbetween the machine gibberish, he manages to plead Thor to help him. So Thor [[MercyKill does]].
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** Ultron!Black Widow slices off Hulk's head with Captain America's shield. [[spoiler:Mercifully, Hulk's from a time when his powers and abilities fluctuate wildly, so it doesn't kill him.]]
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** Vision blasts off Ultron!Spider-Woman's the future Spider-Woman's head.
**Ultron!Black The future's Black Widow slices off Hulk's head with Captain America's shield. [[spoiler:Mercifully, Hulk's from a time when his powers and abilities fluctuate wildly, so it doesn't kill him.]]
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* TragicVillain: Ultron has conquered the galaxy, ascended to godhood and enslaved or murdered hundreds of billions at minimum...but, he's also ''miserable'' and has no idea ''why'' he did these things, or what he's supposed to do now that he's done it. In the end he's just a crazy robot that was a slave to its' own defective programming.
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* PhysicalGod: Ultron, courtesy of having taken Odin's power.
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In the far future, Ultron has won. The mad machine has killed his enemies, conquered the galaxy and enslaved mankind. Now, factories belch forward endless numbers of Ultron drones, while what little remains of humanity exists as nothing more than puppets to Ultron's will. God bless Ultron-America.
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In the far future, Ultron ComicBook/{{Ultron}} has won. The mad machine has killed his enemies, conquered the galaxy and enslaved mankind. Now, factories belch forward endless numbers of Ultron drones, while what little remains of humanity exists as nothing more than puppets to Ultron's will. God bless Ultron-America.
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* MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Hulk (and Banner) are from the early ''Tales to Astonish'' era. Hulk still has the more ape-like design of the time.
* MultipleHeadcase: Because the Hulk is from a time where Banner regulated his transformation by technology, which made them unstable, so when he gets decapitated by Ultron's Widow he grows Bruce Banners head out of his chest who then proceeds to reattach it.
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time, along with the somewhat wonkier powers and relatively higher intelligence.
* MultipleHeadcase: Because the Hulk is from a time where Banner regulated his transformation by technology, which made them unstable, so when he gets decapitated by Ultron's Widow he grows BruceBanners Banner's head out of his chest who then proceeds to reattach it.
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* GenericDoomsdayVillain: Deconstructed. This version of Ultron has gone crazy with anger and sadness over the possibility that he done everything he'd done for no damn reason at all.
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* GenericDoomsdayVillain: Deconstructed. This version of Ultron has gone crazy with anger and sadness over the possibility that he done did everything he'd done for no damn reason at all.
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* AndThenWhat: Ultron doesn't seem to have had a proper idea of what to ''do'' once he took over the world. Even after conquering Asgard, he's [[BigEgoHiddenDepths not satisfied with his accomplishments and desperately trying to figure out why he did everything he did]]. One of his Avengers remarks on [[VillainousBSOD hearing him crying to himself in his private moments]].
* GenericDoomsdayVillain: Deconstructed. This version of Ultron has gone crazy with anger and sadness over the possibility that he done everything he'd done for no damn reason at all.
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-->'''Ultron:''' "Why?" That is what I ask myself. Now that Earth is conquered, now that humanity is subjugated - what was it for? Revenge? Ideology? Programming? Why? I have the God-Sight now! I see everything! I see inside myself! I see circuits! Subroutines! Looping codes of data! Yet! I! Do not! See ''why''! WHY? '''WHY?''''''WHY?'''
* VillainousBSOD: Ultron has fallen into one after finally accomplishing his goal of conquering his Earth (and Asgard), only to find that not only was it not satisfying, but that he couldn't find a single reason for why he'd done any of it despite assimilating the power of Odin. In his private moments he cries to himself, and when the heroes arrive he rants about being unable to answer the question he can't stop asking himself.
* VillainousBSOD: Ultron has fallen into one after finally accomplishing his goal of conquering his Earth (and Asgard), only to find that not only was it not satisfying, but that he couldn't find a single reason for why he'd done any of it despite assimilating the power of Odin. In his private moments he cries to himself, and when the heroes arrive he rants about being unable to answer the question he can't stop asking himself.
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''Ultron Forever'' is a 2015 Marvel comic book written by Creator/AlEwing and drawn by Creator/AlanDavies.
In the far future, Ultron has won. The mad machine has killed his enemies, conquered the galaxy and enslaved mankind. Now, factories belch forward endless numbers of Ultron drones, while what little remains of humanity exists as nothing more than puppets to Ultron's will. God bless Ultron-America.
But not all hope is lost, as one man summons together a team of heroes from across time, Avengers from past, present and future, to fight a foe none of them could face alone. And that man... is Doom.
''Ultron Forever'' takes place across three issues (Ultron Forever: Avengers, Ultron Forever: New Avengers, and Ultron Forever: Uncanny Avengers).
!!Tropes:
* AnalogyBackfire: At the beginning of the story, the Vision says he is no more programmed than Black Widow. She retorts that she spent her childhood as a brainwashed agent of the Red Room.
* AndIMustScream: Future!Loki's fate, as a servant to Ultron, turned into nanotechnology and forced to serve Ultron's will. Inbetween the machine gibberish, he manages to plead Thor to help him. So Thor [[MercyKill does]].
* BadassBoast:
** Past!Thor gets one in the second issue:
-->'''Thor:''' For I am the stormbringer! The master of the thunders! I am harrower of Hel and my late father's son! I am all that you have forgotten - unworthy one!
** Captain America has her own:
-->'''Captain America:''' I am the shield!
* BadFuture:
** Captain America's future, at least from our viewpoint. New York is flooded, and resources are scarce. Also, there's campy supervillains about.
** Ultron's future, previously glimpsed in a time-travel arc of Jonathan Hickman's ''Avengers''. In the year 2420, a new, vastly improved Ultimate Ultron fought the Avengers, and killed all of them. Since then, Ultron's taken over damn near everywhere, [[spoiler:including Asgard]]. All humans found are crushed and turned into bio-slaves.
* BlingOfWar: Ultron's true form is a giant, golden body designed to look like he's wearing Asgardian armor.
* CallBack:
** Nat recognises Ultron's future, having been there during Hickman's ''Avengers''.
** Thor is taken from the middle of Simonson's run, and is still suffering Hela's curse, which prevents him from dying.
** Thinking Nat isn't taking him seriously, Hulk tries boasting about how he beat the Metal Master (from Incredible Hulk issue 6).
** Rhodey notes that his armor's causing him a lot of pain, but he doesn't know why (it's because it's calibrated for Tony Stark's mind, not Rhodes', and is slowly driving him mad).
* TheCavalry: One big honking Norse-god themed cavalry, courtesy of Jim Rhodes and basic physics.
* DiscOneFinalBoss: [[spoiler:Ultron, as a matter of fact, is atomized partway through the second issue. The true threat is Doom.]]
* DramaticIrony: Thor is pleased to see Lady!Thor, believing she took over after he died. Jane doesn't have the heart to tell him what ''really'' happened to him.
* EvilIsPetty: Doom figures that Ultron making his ruling caste his own version of the Avengers is a joke on Ultron's part. Likewise, he figures having the bio-slaves maintain the systems keeping them enslaved is another of Ultron's jokes.
* FastballSpecial: Captain America asks Hulk to supply her one. Despite being a few years before it becomes popular, Hulk manages to figure out what she means, because hey, it ain't rocket science.
* FutureBadass: Captain America, also known as Danielle Cage, daughter of Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. She's also got a mix of their powers.
* FutureMeScaresMe: Vision is understandably alarmed at meeting his warped, deformed future self serving Ultron, and vows never to become him.
* HoldTheLine: Seven Avengers, and all the warriors of the Nine Realms, versus an endless supply of killer robots.
* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Past!Thor, courtesy of Future!Thor. Of course, since Past!Thor literally cannot die, it only allows him to get close.
* LegacyCharacter: The future Captain America is black and a woman.
* MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Hulk (and Banner) are from the early ''Tales to Astonish'' era. Hulk still has the more ape-like design of the time.
* NoodleIncident: Captain America mentions having seen the Doom of her time die.
* NoSell: Ultron's Captain America tries to take over Rhodey's Iron Man armor and make him blow his head off. It doesn't work, because Rhodey's armor is from the 1980s. No Wi-Fi to hack.
* OffWithHisHead:
** Vision blasts off Ultron!Spider-Woman's head.
** Ultron!Black Widow slices off Hulk's head with Captain America's shield. [[spoiler:Mercifully, Hulk's from a time when his powers and abilities fluctuate wildly, so it doesn't kill him.]]
* PhysicalGod: Ultron, courtesy of having taken Odin's power.
* RedeemingReplacement: [[spoiler:Doom, for both Ultron and the original Doctor Doom.]]
* TheReveal: [[spoiler:Doom isn't Doom. He's a Doom''bot''. ''The'' Doombot, that is. The one who served alongside Vision in ''Avengers A.I.]]
* SealedBadassInACan: The entirety of Asgard (except Thor, Loki and Odin) has been sealed away inside a magic mirror.
* VillainousBreakdown: Ultron, once confronted by the three Thors. Even though he's all-powerful, and has the Odinforce ''and'' the Norn stones, he still can't figure out what any of it was for, and goes into a screaming breakdown.
-->'''Ultron:''' "Why?" That is what I ask myself. Now that Earth is conquered, now that humanity is subjugated - what was it for? Revenge? Ideology? Programming? Why? I have the God-Sight now! I see everything! I see inside myself! I see circuits! Subroutines! Looping codes of data! Yet! I! Do not! See ''why''! WHY? '''WHY?'''
In the far future, Ultron has won. The mad machine has killed his enemies, conquered the galaxy and enslaved mankind. Now, factories belch forward endless numbers of Ultron drones, while what little remains of humanity exists as nothing more than puppets to Ultron's will. God bless Ultron-America.
But not all hope is lost, as one man summons together a team of heroes from across time, Avengers from past, present and future, to fight a foe none of them could face alone. And that man... is Doom.
''Ultron Forever'' takes place across three issues (Ultron Forever: Avengers, Ultron Forever: New Avengers, and Ultron Forever: Uncanny Avengers).
!!Tropes:
* AnalogyBackfire: At the beginning of the story, the Vision says he is no more programmed than Black Widow. She retorts that she spent her childhood as a brainwashed agent of the Red Room.
* AndIMustScream: Future!Loki's fate, as a servant to Ultron, turned into nanotechnology and forced to serve Ultron's will. Inbetween the machine gibberish, he manages to plead Thor to help him. So Thor [[MercyKill does]].
* BadassBoast:
** Past!Thor gets one in the second issue:
-->'''Thor:''' For I am the stormbringer! The master of the thunders! I am harrower of Hel and my late father's son! I am all that you have forgotten - unworthy one!
** Captain America has her own:
-->'''Captain America:''' I am the shield!
* BadFuture:
** Captain America's future, at least from our viewpoint. New York is flooded, and resources are scarce. Also, there's campy supervillains about.
** Ultron's future, previously glimpsed in a time-travel arc of Jonathan Hickman's ''Avengers''. In the year 2420, a new, vastly improved Ultimate Ultron fought the Avengers, and killed all of them. Since then, Ultron's taken over damn near everywhere, [[spoiler:including Asgard]]. All humans found are crushed and turned into bio-slaves.
* BlingOfWar: Ultron's true form is a giant, golden body designed to look like he's wearing Asgardian armor.
* CallBack:
** Nat recognises Ultron's future, having been there during Hickman's ''Avengers''.
** Thor is taken from the middle of Simonson's run, and is still suffering Hela's curse, which prevents him from dying.
** Thinking Nat isn't taking him seriously, Hulk tries boasting about how he beat the Metal Master (from Incredible Hulk issue 6).
** Rhodey notes that his armor's causing him a lot of pain, but he doesn't know why (it's because it's calibrated for Tony Stark's mind, not Rhodes', and is slowly driving him mad).
* TheCavalry: One big honking Norse-god themed cavalry, courtesy of Jim Rhodes and basic physics.
* DiscOneFinalBoss: [[spoiler:Ultron, as a matter of fact, is atomized partway through the second issue. The true threat is Doom.]]
* DramaticIrony: Thor is pleased to see Lady!Thor, believing she took over after he died. Jane doesn't have the heart to tell him what ''really'' happened to him.
* EvilIsPetty: Doom figures that Ultron making his ruling caste his own version of the Avengers is a joke on Ultron's part. Likewise, he figures having the bio-slaves maintain the systems keeping them enslaved is another of Ultron's jokes.
* FastballSpecial: Captain America asks Hulk to supply her one. Despite being a few years before it becomes popular, Hulk manages to figure out what she means, because hey, it ain't rocket science.
* FutureBadass: Captain America, also known as Danielle Cage, daughter of Luke Cage and Jessica Jones. She's also got a mix of their powers.
* FutureMeScaresMe: Vision is understandably alarmed at meeting his warped, deformed future self serving Ultron, and vows never to become him.
* HoldTheLine: Seven Avengers, and all the warriors of the Nine Realms, versus an endless supply of killer robots.
* ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: Past!Thor, courtesy of Future!Thor. Of course, since Past!Thor literally cannot die, it only allows him to get close.
* LegacyCharacter: The future Captain America is black and a woman.
* MeetYourEarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Hulk (and Banner) are from the early ''Tales to Astonish'' era. Hulk still has the more ape-like design of the time.
* NoodleIncident: Captain America mentions having seen the Doom of her time die.
* NoSell: Ultron's Captain America tries to take over Rhodey's Iron Man armor and make him blow his head off. It doesn't work, because Rhodey's armor is from the 1980s. No Wi-Fi to hack.
* OffWithHisHead:
** Vision blasts off Ultron!Spider-Woman's head.
** Ultron!Black Widow slices off Hulk's head with Captain America's shield. [[spoiler:Mercifully, Hulk's from a time when his powers and abilities fluctuate wildly, so it doesn't kill him.]]
* PhysicalGod: Ultron, courtesy of having taken Odin's power.
* RedeemingReplacement: [[spoiler:Doom, for both Ultron and the original Doctor Doom.]]
* TheReveal: [[spoiler:Doom isn't Doom. He's a Doom''bot''. ''The'' Doombot, that is. The one who served alongside Vision in ''Avengers A.I.]]
* SealedBadassInACan: The entirety of Asgard (except Thor, Loki and Odin) has been sealed away inside a magic mirror.
* VillainousBreakdown: Ultron, once confronted by the three Thors. Even though he's all-powerful, and has the Odinforce ''and'' the Norn stones, he still can't figure out what any of it was for, and goes into a screaming breakdown.
-->'''Ultron:''' "Why?" That is what I ask myself. Now that Earth is conquered, now that humanity is subjugated - what was it for? Revenge? Ideology? Programming? Why? I have the God-Sight now! I see everything! I see inside myself! I see circuits! Subroutines! Looping codes of data! Yet! I! Do not! See ''why''! WHY? '''WHY?'''
