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* AntiRoleModel: It's apparent some of Bill's abysmal attitude is a result of years of hanging around Joe the comic shop owner, whose toxic attitude on everything from women to his customers clearly rubbed off on him.
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", Jerry reminises to the times where they started the club and were more innocent.]]
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* ChildrenAreInnocent: [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", Jerry reminises reminisces to the times where they started the club and were more innocent.]]
* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:In a fit of impotent rage (Combined with a possible concussion), Bill lights Joe's comic shop on fire. Not stopping to realize it's a bad idea to do so ''while he himself is still standing in it''.]]
* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:In a fit of impotent rage (Combined with a possible concussion), Bill lights Joe's comic shop on fire. Not stopping to realize it's a bad idea to do so ''while he himself is still standing in it''.]]
* EvilIsPetty: As show in the timeskip epilogue, Bill still carries the head of the broken Boba Fett solely to torment Josh with.
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** Joe, the comic store owner who often mistreats his costumers and takes advantage of their fanatism to sell his merch at ridiculous high prices.
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** Joe, the comic store owner who often mistreats his costumers and takes advantage of their fanatism fanaticism to sell his merch at ridiculous high prices.
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* GoodAngelBadAngel: Parodied with Joe in the pilot. Upon witnessing the desesperation of Bill and Josh of owning his Bobba Fett, Joe's demon appears and suggests Joe to scam the Eltingville boys by pricing it for $200. As soon as he's finished, Joe's angel appears and suggests increasing its price to $250, ending up with Joe deciding to sell it for $300.
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** [[spoiler: At the end of "Lo, there shall be an epilogue" The Eltingville group fears that they will be banned from every geeky store, con and event in existence when Bill causes havok at Comic Con.]]
* PlayingTheVictimCard: In the pilot. After Josh made a mistake, losing the trivia showdown, he states that it was obvious he knew the correct answers and starts claming everyone is against him for being antisemites.
* PlayingTheVictimCard: In the pilot. After Josh made a mistake, losing the trivia showdown, he states that it was obvious he knew the correct answers and starts claming everyone is against him for being antisemites.
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** [[spoiler: At the end of "Lo, there shall be an epilogue" The Eltingville group fears that they will be banned from every geeky store, con and event in existence when Bill causes havok havoc at Comic Con.]]
* PlayingTheVictimCard: In the pilot. After Josh made a mistake, losing the trivia showdown, he states that it was obvious he knew the correct answers and startsclaming claiming everyone is against him for being antisemites.anti-Semites.
* PlayingTheVictimCard: In the pilot. After Josh made a mistake, losing the trivia showdown, he states that it was obvious he knew the correct answers and starts
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** What made Bill such a compelling character was the fact that he [[JerkassHasAPoint wasn't outright]] ''wrong'' about franchises sometimes changing for the sake of mainstream appeal, but taking it to the extreme that he did is obviously the wrong move and presented as such within the narrative without making him a full-on strawman. [[VillainHasAPoint The best antagonists are the ones that can be understood or even identified with while still finding their actions abhorrent]], which is what made this series such effective commentary. In an average webcomic today, [[StrawCharacter he'd just be a random caricature who gets kicked in the nuts]]. Here he's our main character.
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* MirrorUniverse: One story is about the Club's alternate-universe cultural (but not moral) opposite selves, who are obnoxious, pretentious art-comix fans.
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* MirrorUniverse: One story is about the Club's alternate-universe cultural (but not moral) opposite selves, the "Northwest Comix Collective", who are obnoxious, pretentious art-comix fans.
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* CerebusSyndrome: An interesting example. While the chaos the club members create never stops being absurd, the repercussions and their actions gradually become less and less funny as the comic continues. By the end, particularly "This fan... this monster," the club members (except Jerry) become more tragic and unsettling than funny.
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* CerebusSyndrome: An interesting example. While the chaos the club members create never stops being absurd, the repercussions and their actions gradually become less and less funny as the comic continues.continues, escalating to the point of Bill burning down a store, at which point it becomes clear something is ''genuinely'' wrong with him. By the end, particularly "This fan... this monster," the club members (except Jerry) become more tragic and unsettling than funny.
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* CerebusSyndrome: An interesting example. While the chaos the club members create never stops being absurd, the repercussions and their actions gradually become less and less funny as the comic continues. By the end, particularly "This fan... this monster," the club members (except Jerry) become more tragic and unsettling than funny.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Pete, who in his adulthood admits to sexually exploit women in his pornographic film movies, is apalled by Bill's mysoginistic tirade against [[spoiler:Mandy, Jerry's girlfriend]].
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Pete, who in his adulthood admits to sexually exploit women in his pornographic film movies, is apalled appalled by Bill's mysoginistic misogynistic tirade against [[spoiler:Mandy, Jerry's girlfriend]].
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** [[spoiler:Unsurprisingly, Bill is the member with the worst outcome. Still living with his mother, Bill became a failed independent dealer and expert in comics and collectibles whose collection maintenance business failed due to him losing his customers' trust by slacking on the job and taking advantage of them. By the time the epilogue started, he sunk so low to the point of attempting to steal comics at comic-con by taking advantage of the vendor of a commercial stand being distracted with a client.]]
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** [[spoiler:Still, the latter two come out looking rosy compared to Bill - who, unsurprisingly, is the member with the worst outcome. Still living with his mother, Bill became a failed independent dealer and expert in comics and collectibles whose collection maintenance business failed due to him losing his customers' trust by slacking on the job and taking advantage of them. By the time the epilogue started, he sunk so low to the point of attempting to steal comics at comic-con by taking advantage of the vendor of a commercial stand being distracted with a client.]]
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* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they were together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
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* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they were together.together, ramping their worst traits to near-psychotic, criminal levels. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
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* JerkassHasAPoint: For all his faults, Pete is ''completely'' correct in the epilogue that hanging out with Bill again will go horribly wrong.
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* PlayingTheVictimCard: In the pilot. After Josh made a mistake, losing the trivia showdown, he states that it was obvious he knew the correct answers and starts clamining everyone is against him for being antisemites.
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* PlayingTheVictimCard: In the pilot. After Josh made a mistake, losing the trivia showdown, he states that it was obvious he knew the correct answers and starts clamining claming everyone is against him for being antisemites.
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->''"Wow. I mean, I'm someone who thinks women ain't much more than receptacles an' even I'm offended by that shit."''
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* TokenGoodTeamMate: Jerry and to a lesser extent Pete, granted they can still be jerks like Bill and Josh.
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* PyrrhicVictory: Bill may have resisted the intervention and even convinced his kidnappers to become geeks again, but he still gets all his collection stolen and left tied up alone.
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* PyrrhicVictory: Bill may have resisted the intervention and even convinced his kidnappers to become geeks again, but he still gets all his collection stolen and is left tied up alone.all alone until his mother returns home.
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* FutureLoser: Most of the members of the group don't adapt to adulthood too well
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* FutureLoser: Most of the members of the group don't adapt to adulthood too wellwell, Jerry seems to be the only one who seems to have matured for the better and avoid what happened to his fellow club members.
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* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they were together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
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** In the GrandFinale TimeSkip, the other members of the club have found fulfilling careers and varying degrees of success in life, while LoserProtagonist Bill has become a BasementDweller and petty thief who's even ''[[TookALevelInJerkass more]]'' unpleasant than he was as a teen. Bill's milder-mannered {{Foil}} Jerry found success as a professional ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' player with an attractive pop-culture correspondent girlfriend, and when Jerry introduces her to his old friends Bill goes on a hateful, misogynistic tirade about "[[CountryMatters cunts]]" and "[[OldGuardVersusNewBlood cultural immigrants]]" [[ItsPopularNowItSucks ruining their fun]].
** What made Bill such a compelling character was the fact that he [[JerkassHasAPoint wasn't outright]] ''wrong'' about franchises sometimes changing [[NewbieBoom for the sake of mainstream appeal]], but taking it to the extreme that he did is obviously the wrong move and presented as such within the narrative without making him a full-on strawman. [[VillainHasAPoint The best antagonists are the ones that can be understood or even identified with while still finding their actions abhorrent]], which is what made this series such effective commentary. In an average webcomic today, [[StrawCharacter he'd just be a random caricature who gets kicked in the nuts]]. Here he's our main character.
** What made Bill such a compelling character was the fact that he [[JerkassHasAPoint wasn't outright]] ''wrong'' about franchises sometimes changing [[NewbieBoom for the sake of mainstream appeal]], but taking it to the extreme that he did is obviously the wrong move and presented as such within the narrative without making him a full-on strawman. [[VillainHasAPoint The best antagonists are the ones that can be understood or even identified with while still finding their actions abhorrent]], which is what made this series such effective commentary. In an average webcomic today, [[StrawCharacter he'd just be a random caricature who gets kicked in the nuts]]. Here he's our main character.
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** In the GrandFinale TimeSkip, the other members of the club have found fulfilling careers and varying degrees of success in life, while LoserProtagonist Bill has become a BasementDweller and petty thief who's even ''[[TookALevelInJerkass more]]'' unpleasant than he was as a teen. Bill's milder-mannered {{Foil}} Jerry found success as a professional ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' player with an attractive pop-culture correspondent girlfriend, and when Jerry introduces her to his old friends Bill goes on a hateful, misogynistic tirade about "[[CountryMatters cunts]]" and "[[OldGuardVersusNewBlood cultural immigrants]]" [[ItsPopularNowItSucks "cultural immigrants" ruining their fun]].
fun.
** What made Bill such a compelling character was the fact that he [[JerkassHasAPoint wasn't outright]] ''wrong'' about franchises sometimes changing[[NewbieBoom for the sake of mainstream appeal]], appeal, but taking it to the extreme that he did is obviously the wrong move and presented as such within the narrative without making him a full-on strawman. [[VillainHasAPoint The best antagonists are the ones that can be understood or even identified with while still finding their actions abhorrent]], which is what made this series such effective commentary. In an average webcomic today, [[StrawCharacter he'd just be a random caricature who gets kicked in the nuts]]. Here he's our main character.
** What made Bill such a compelling character was the fact that he [[JerkassHasAPoint wasn't outright]] ''wrong'' about franchises sometimes changing
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* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts him stealing, and [[spoiler:fights the eltingville club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they were together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they were together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
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* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts catches him stealing, and [[spoiler:fights the eltingville club Eltingville Club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they were together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they were together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.
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* PlayingTheVictimCard: In the pilot. After Josh made a mistake, losing the trivia showdown, he states that it was obvious he knew the correct answers and starts clamining everyone is against him for being antisemites.
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* MirrorUniverse: One story is about the Club's alternate-universe cultural (but not moral) opposite selves, who are obnoxious, pretentious art-comix fans.
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failed due to him losing his customers' trust by slacking on the job and taking advantage of them. By the time the epilogue started, he sunk so low to the point of attempting to steal comics at comic-con by taking advantage of the vendor of a commercial stand being distracted with a client.]]
failed due to him losing his customers' trust by slacking on the job and taking advantage of them. By the time the epilogue started, he sunk so low to the point of attempting to steal comics at comic-con by taking advantage of the vendor of a commercial stand being distracted with a client.]]
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** [[spoiler:Unsurprisingly, Bill is the member with the worst outcome. still Still living with his mother, Bill became a failed independent dealer and expert in comics and collectibles whose collection maintenance business
business failed due to him losing his customers' trust by slacking on the job and taking advantage of them. By the time the epilogue started, he sunk so low to the point of attempting to steal comics at comic-con by taking advantage of the vendor of a commercial stand being distracted with a client.]]
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** [[spoiler:Bill is still living with his parents.]]
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** [[spoiler:Bill [[spoiler:Unsurprisingly, Bill is the member with the worst outcome. still living with his parents.mother, Bill became a failed independent dealer and expert in comics and collectibles whose collection maintenance business
failed due to him losing his customers' trust by slacking on the job and taking advantage of them. By the time the epilogue started, he sunk so low to the point of attempting to steal comics at comic-con by taking advantage of the vendor of a commercial stand being distracted with a client.]]
failed due to him losing his customers' trust by slacking on the job and taking advantage of them. By the time the epilogue started, he sunk so low to the point of attempting to steal comics at comic-con by taking advantage of the vendor of a commercial stand being distracted with a client.]]
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* RelationshipSabotage: [[spoiler:Bill spread around a lie that Jerry was boasting about having sex with Agnes Zawatsky, his crush from the old days. She stopped talking to Jerome after that, with him never finding out why, until Bill revealed the truth during the reunion, justifying it as done in order to protect the club.]]
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Bill, the self-proclaimed leader of the group, is the most disliked member of the gang, and with good reason
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Bill, the self-proclaimed leader of the group, is the most disliked member of the gang, and with good reasonreason, as Bill tends to get them into deeper trouble. By the time of "This fan... this monster", the rest of the group was thinking of kicking him out of the group for good.
* GoodAngelBadAngel: Parodied with Joe in the pilot. Upon witnessing the desesperation of Bill and Josh of owning his Bobba Fett, Joe's demon appears and suggests Joe to scam the Eltingville boys by pricing it for $200. As soon as he's finished, Joe's angel appears and suggests increasing its price to $250, ending up with Joe deciding to sell it for $300.
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** Downplayed with Joe. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, but the only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best customers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
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** Downplayed with Joe. He has kicked out the group from his store several times and has openly stated his dislike to for the boys, but the boys. The only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best customers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
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* PyrrhicVictory: Bill may have resisted the intervention and even convinced his kidnappers into becoming geeks again, but he still gets all his collection stolen and left tied up alone.
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* PyrrhicVictory: Bill may have resisted the intervention and even convinced his kidnappers into becoming to become geeks again, but he still gets all his collection stolen and left tied up alone.
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* WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity: [[spoiler: As soon as Joe leaves Bill in charge of the store to attend an emergency, the latter becomes mad with power, immediately breaking Joe's rules when he's not around and threatening clients with banning them for live if they don't comply to his demands.]]
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* CardSharp: The dice variant. Is implied Bill's dice is loaded so he always can get a favorable result. Bill gets caught by the rest of the group at the start of "The Intervention"
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* CardSharp: The dice variant. Is implied Bill's percentile dice is are loaded so he can always can get a favorable result. Bill He gets caught by the rest of the group at the start of "The Intervention"Intervention".
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** [[spoiler:Bill is still living with his parents]]
** [[spoiler:Josh is a failed comic writer working for a comic book news website and whose ideas always end up being rejected by publishers]]
** [[spoiler: Pete ends up balding and working as a film director specialized in creating horror porn, a position that he frequently uses to exploit desperate women.]]
* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill uses his alias Greedo 318 to bully Josh anonymously. Jerry exposes him in retaliation when Bill reveals that he's the one who started rumors in order to destroy Jerry's relationship with his former love Zawatsky]]
* OnlySaneMan: Jerry Stokes Jr is this by comparison of the other members, as he has a more easygoing personality and is calmer than his peers. [[spoiler: He's also the only one who succeeds in love and the only member who permanently decides to cut ties with them upon realizing how toxic his former friends were.]]
** [[spoiler:Josh is a failed comic writer working for a comic book news website and whose ideas always end up being rejected by publishers]]
** [[spoiler: Pete ends up balding and working as a film director specialized in creating horror porn, a position that he frequently uses to exploit desperate women.]]
* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill uses his alias Greedo 318 to bully Josh anonymously. Jerry exposes him in retaliation when Bill reveals that he's the one who started rumors in order to destroy Jerry's relationship with his former love Zawatsky]]
* OnlySaneMan: Jerry Stokes Jr is this by comparison of the other members, as he has a more easygoing personality and is calmer than his peers. [[spoiler: He's also the only one who succeeds in love and the only member who permanently decides to cut ties with them upon realizing how toxic his former friends were.]]
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** [[spoiler:Bill is still living with his parents]]
parents.]]
** [[spoiler:Josh is a failed comic writer working for a comic book news website and whose ideas always end up being rejected bypublishers]]
publishers.]]
**[[spoiler: Pete [[spoiler:Pete ends up balding and working as a film director specialized in creating horror porn, a position that he frequently uses to exploit desperate women.]]
* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill uses his alias Greedo 318 to bully Josh anonymously. Jerry exposes him in retaliation when Bill reveals that he's the one who started rumors in order to destroy Jerry's relationship with his former loveZawatsky]]
Zawatsky.]]
* OnlySaneMan: Jerry StokesJr Jr. is this by comparison of the other members, as he has a more easygoing personality and is calmer than his peers. [[spoiler: He's also the only one who succeeds in love and the only member who permanently decides to cut ties with them upon realizing how toxic his former friends were.]]
** [[spoiler:Josh is a failed comic writer working for a comic book news website and whose ideas always end up being rejected by
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* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill uses his alias Greedo 318 to bully Josh anonymously. Jerry exposes him in retaliation when Bill reveals that he's the one who started rumors in order to destroy Jerry's relationship with his former love
* OnlySaneMan: Jerry Stokes
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** The group gets banned from Toys'R'Us when Pete decides to burn the steel toys and the fire spreads to the store.
** Downplayed with Pete. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, but the only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best customers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
** [[spoiler: At the end of "Lo, there shall be an epilogue" The Eltingville group fears that they will be banned from every geeky store, con and event in existence when Bill causes havok at Comic Con]]
** Downplayed with Pete. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, but the only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best customers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
** [[spoiler: At the end of "Lo, there shall be an epilogue" The Eltingville group fears that they will be banned from every geeky store, con and event in existence when Bill causes havok at Comic Con]]
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** The group gets banned from Toys'R'Us Toys 'R' Us when Pete decides to burn the steel toys and the fire spreads to the store.
** Downplayed withPete.Joe. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, but the only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best customers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
** [[spoiler: At the end of "Lo, there shall be an epilogue" The Eltingville group fears that they will be banned from every geeky store, con and event in existence when Bill causes havok at ComicCon]]Con.]]
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** Inspired by Josh's commentary that anyone should burn the steel toys, Pete decides to burn them with his lighter, accidentally burning the Toys 'R' us store alongside it and getting the group banned from the store.
** [[spoiler: Upon ruining Joe's store, Bill finishes destroying the place by burning the place to the ground and making it as his resignation.]]
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* VitriolicBestBuds: Deconstructed. Despite claiming to be friends, the group is always seen insulting and fighting at each other over petty things. [[spoiler:Mandy, Jerry's girlfriend, directly questions to the group if they were even friends at all]]
* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts him stealing, and [[spoiler: fights the eltingville club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they are together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts him stealing, and [[spoiler: fights the eltingville club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they are together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
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* VitriolicBestBuds: Deconstructed. Despite claiming to be friends, the group is always seen insulting and fighting at each other over petty things. [[spoiler:Mandy, Jerry's girlfriend, directly questions to the group if they were even friends at all]]
* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts him stealing, and [[spoiler: fights the eltingville club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.all.]]
* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts him stealing, and [[spoiler:fights the eltingville club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time theyare were together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts him stealing, and [[spoiler: fights the eltingville club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.
* WouldHurtAChild: Joe, the owner of the comic store, not only makes it clear that he will kill Bill if he caughts him stealing, and [[spoiler:fights the eltingville club when he finds them destroying his store merch during a petty fight between each other.]]
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they
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The comic was adapted into a pilot for an animated series on Creator/CartoonNetwork's Creator/AdultSwim in 2002, but didn't got pitched.
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The comic was adapted into a pilot for an animated series on Creator/CartoonNetwork's Creator/AdultSwim in 2002, but didn't got pitched.
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* BreakingTheFellowship: Played often for laughs at the end of the episode with the tagline "Is this the end of The Eltingville Club". However, this is played straight in the last two episodes, [[spoiler: as the parents forbid them to seeing each other after Bill burns Joe's store, and at the last episode, where Jerry leaves for good.]]
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* BreakingTheFellowship: Played often for laughs at the end of the episode with the tagline "Is this the end of The Eltingville Club". However, this is played straight in the last two episodes, [[spoiler: as the parents forbid them to seeing each other after Bill burns Joe's store, and at the last episode, where Jerry leaves cut ties for good.good after a failed reunion.]]
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** Inspired with Josh's commentary that anyone should burn the steel toys, Pete decides to burn them with his lighter, accidentally burning the Toys 'R' us store alongside it and getting the group banned from the store.
** [[spoiler: Upon ruining Joe's store, Bill finish destroying the place by burning the place to the ground and making it as his resignation.]]
* ShopliftAndDie: Having caught and fired his former assistant, Joe makes it clear to Bill that he will kill him if he caughts him stealing stuff from his store.
* StagingAnIntervention: Concerned by his son's habits, Bill's mother pays two guys to kidnap the boy, lock him in his basement and force him to into quitting his geeky life.
** [[spoiler: Upon ruining Joe's store, Bill finish destroying the place by burning the place to the ground and making it as his resignation.]]
* ShopliftAndDie: Having caught and fired his former assistant, Joe makes it clear to Bill that he will kill him if he caughts him stealing stuff from his store.
* StagingAnIntervention: Concerned by his son's habits, Bill's mother pays two guys to kidnap the boy, lock him in his basement and force him to into quitting his geeky life.
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** Inspired with by Josh's commentary that anyone should burn the steel toys, Pete decides to burn them with his lighter, accidentally burning the Toys 'R' us store alongside it and getting the group banned from the store.
** [[spoiler: Upon ruining Joe's store, Billfinish finishes destroying the place by burning the place to the ground and making it as his resignation.]]
* ShopliftAndDie: Having caught and fired his former assistant, Joe makes it clear to Bill that he will kill him if hecaughts catches him stealing stuff from his store.
* StagingAnIntervention: Concerned by his son's habits, Bill's mother pays two guys to kidnap the boy, lock him in his basement and force him tointo quitting quit his geeky life.
** [[spoiler: Upon ruining Joe's store, Bill
* ShopliftAndDie: Having caught and fired his former assistant, Joe makes it clear to Bill that he will kill him if he
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* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they are together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end of when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
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* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they are together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end of when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
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** Downplayed with Pete. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, butthe only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best costumers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
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** Downplayed with Pete. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, butthe but the only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best costumers.customers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
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* OnlySaneMan: Jerry Stokes Jr is this by comparison of the other members, as he has a more easygoing personality and is calmer than his peers. [spoiler: He's also the only one who succeeds in live and the only member who permanently decides to cut thies with them upon realizing how toxic his former friends were.]
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* OnlySaneMan: Jerry Stokes Jr is this by comparison of the other members, as he has a more easygoing personality and is calmer than his peers. [spoiler: [[spoiler: He's also the only one who succeeds in live love and the only member who permanently decides to cut thies ties with them upon realizing how toxic his former friends were.]]]
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** [[spoiler:Bill is still living with his parentsparents]]
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** What made Bill such a compelling character was the fact that he [[JerkassHasAPoint wasn't outright]] ''wrong'' about franchises sometimes changing [[NewbieBoom for the sake of mainstream appeal]], but taking it to the extreme that he did is obviously the wrong move and presented as such within the narrative without making him a full-on strawman. [[VillainHasAPoint The best antagonists are the ones that can be understood or even identified with while still finding their actions abhorrent]], which is what made this series such effective commentary. In an average webcomic today, [[StrawCharacter he'd just be a random caricature who gets kicked in the nuts]]. Here he's our main character.
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* VillainProtagonist: William "Bill" Dickey. This trait of him is more prominent on the last two chapters of the comic, fully antagonizing the other members of the group.
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* VillainProtagonist: William "Bill" Dickey. This trait The main characters were all varying degrees of him is more {{Jerkass}}, but TheLeader and most prominent on member Bill was by far the last two chapters of the comic, fully antagonizing worst as his extremely overbearing personality made him greatly disliked by his peers, [[VitriolicBestBuds including the other members of the group.Eltingville Club]]. In the second-to-last issue, Bill [[PsychopathicManchild sets fire to his workplace with his friends in it in a fit of rage]].
** In the GrandFinale TimeSkip, the other members of the club have found fulfilling careers and varying degrees of success in life, while LoserProtagonist Bill has become a BasementDweller and petty thief who's even ''[[TookALevelInJerkass more]]'' unpleasant than he was as a teen. Bill's milder-mannered {{Foil}} Jerry found success as a professional ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' player with an attractive pop-culture correspondent girlfriend, and when Jerry introduces her to his old friends Bill goes on a hateful, misogynistic tirade about "[[CountryMatters cunts]]" and "[[OldGuardVersusNewBlood cultural immigrants]]" [[ItsPopularNowItSucks ruining their fun]].
** In the GrandFinale TimeSkip, the other members of the club have found fulfilling careers and varying degrees of success in life, while LoserProtagonist Bill has become a BasementDweller and petty thief who's even ''[[TookALevelInJerkass more]]'' unpleasant than he was as a teen. Bill's milder-mannered {{Foil}} Jerry found success as a professional ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' player with an attractive pop-culture correspondent girlfriend, and when Jerry introduces her to his old friends Bill goes on a hateful, misogynistic tirade about "[[CountryMatters cunts]]" and "[[OldGuardVersusNewBlood cultural immigrants]]" [[ItsPopularNowItSucks ruining their fun]].
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* DownerEnding: [[spoiler: The comic ends with the group discussing that they are likely to get arrested for causing chaos at comic con and face charges now that they are adults and aren't protected by their parents, as well as Jerry cutting ties with his former friends for good upon being blamed by the other members and realizing they still haven't matured, deciding to leave the car they're hiding and search for Mindy, fearing for her safety.]]
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Pete, who in his adulthood admits to sexually exploit women in his pornographic film movies, is apalled by Bill's mysoginistic tirade against [[spoiler:Mandy, Jerry's girlfriend]].
->''"Wow. I mean, I'm someone who thinks women ain't much more than receptacles an' even I'm offended by that shit."''
* EvenEvilHasStandards: Pete, who in his adulthood admits to sexually exploit women in his pornographic film movies, is apalled by Bill's mysoginistic tirade against [[spoiler:Mandy, Jerry's girlfriend]].
->''"Wow. I mean, I'm someone who thinks women ain't much more than receptacles an' even I'm offended by that shit."''
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* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill ]]
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* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill ]]uses his alias Greedo 318 to bully Josh anonymously. Jerry exposes him in retaliation when Bill reveals that he's the one who started rumors in order to destroy Jerry's relationship with his former love Zawatsky]]
* PersonaNonGrata
** The group gets banned from Toys'R'Us when Pete decides to burn the steel toys and the fire spreads to the store.
** Downplayed with Pete. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, butthe only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best costumers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
** [[spoiler: At the end of "Lo, there shall be an epilogue" The Eltingville group fears that they will be banned from every geeky store, con and event in existence when Bill causes havok at Comic Con]]
* ProperlyParanoid: At "Lo, there shall be an epilogue", Josh and Pete aren't willing to let Bill join the reunion, pointing out how troublesome he was, only allowing him to join under Jerry's assumption that they aren't rabid teenagers anymore and due to being bribed by him paying the overpriced food. [[spoiler: They are proven right.]]
** The group gets banned from Toys'R'Us when Pete decides to burn the steel toys and the fire spreads to the store.
** Downplayed with Pete. He has kicked out the group several times and has openly stated his dislike to the boys, butthe only reason he hasn't fully banned them is due to them being his best costumers. [[spoiler: That's until Bill gets drunk with power destroying his store and burns it to the ground.]]
** [[spoiler: At the end of "Lo, there shall be an epilogue" The Eltingville group fears that they will be banned from every geeky store, con and event in existence when Bill causes havok at Comic Con]]
* ProperlyParanoid: At "Lo, there shall be an epilogue", Josh and Pete aren't willing to let Bill join the reunion, pointing out how troublesome he was, only allowing him to join under Jerry's assumption that they aren't rabid teenagers anymore and due to being bribed by him paying the overpriced food. [[spoiler: They are proven right.]]
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* VitriolicBestBuds: Deconstructed. Despite claiming to be friends, the group is always seen insulting and fighting at each other over petty things.
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* VitriolicBestBuds: Deconstructed. Despite claiming to be friends, the group is always seen insulting and fighting at each other over petty things. [[spoiler:Mandy, Jerry's girlfriend, directly questions to the group if they were even friends at all]]
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* BreakingTheFellowship: Played often for laughs at the end of the episode with the tagline "Is this the end of The Eltingville Club". However, this is played straight in the last two episodes, [[spoilers: as the parents forbid them to seeing each other after Bill burns Joe's store, and at the last episode, where Jerry leaves for good.]]
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* BreakingTheFellowship: Played often for laughs at the end of the episode with the tagline "Is this the end of The Eltingville Club". However, this is played straight in the last two episodes, [[spoilers: [[spoiler: as the parents forbid them to seeing each other after Bill burns Joe's store, and at the last episode, where Jerry leaves for good.]]
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''The Eltingville Club'' is a comic book by Creator/EvanDorkin (and occasionally colored by Dorkin's wife, Sarah Dyer) and published by Creator/DarkHorseComics and Creator/SlaveLaborGraphics. It follows the misadventures of a small group of four problematic geek teenagers, with each member showing a specific interest in one area of the geek fandom.
The comic was adapted into a pilot for an animated series on Creator/CartoonNetwork's Creator/AdultSwim in 2002, but didn't got pitched.
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!!This comic has examples of:
* BreakingTheFellowship: Played often for laughs at the end of the episode with the tagline "Is this the end of The Eltingville Club". However, this is played straight in the last two episodes, [[spoilers: as the parents forbid them to seeing each other after Bill burns Joe's store, and at the last episode, where Jerry leaves for good.]]
* BorrowedCatchphrase: Jerry uses "Beedee beedee beedee" as his own catchphrase in reference to Twiki from Buck Rogers. In the pilot episode, this actually becomes important, as Bill and Josh's exhaustively long trivia showdown comes to an end when Bill asks who says "Beedee beedee beedee", and Josh blurts out Jerry instead of Twiki, causing him to lose.
* CardSharp: The dice variant. Is implied Bill's dice is loaded so he always can get a favorable result. Bill gets caught by the rest of the group at the start of "The Intervention"
* ChildrenAreInnocent: [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", Jerry reminises to the times where they started the club and were more innocent.]]
* FailedPilotEpisode: The comic was adapted into an animated episode but never got pitched.
* FatBastard:
** Joe, the comic store owner who often mistreats his costumers and takes advantage of their fanatism to sell his merch at ridiculous high prices.
** Josh, the overweight member of the club often pick up fights with Bill over petty stuff and acts pretty awful, specially when collections are involved.
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Bill, the self-proclaimed leader of the group, is the most disliked member of the gang, and with good reason
* FutureLoser: Most of the members of the group don't adapt to adulthood too well
** [[spoiler:Bill is still living with his parents
** [[spoiler:Josh is a failed comic writer working for a comic book news website and whose ideas always end up being rejected by publishers]]
** [[spoiler: Pete ends up balding and working as a film director specialized in creating horror porn, a position that he frequently uses to exploit desperate women.]]
* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill ]]
* OnlySaneMan: Jerry Stokes Jr is this by comparison of the other members, as he has a more easygoing personality and is calmer than his peers. [spoiler: He's also the only one who succeeds in live and the only member who permanently decides to cut thies with them upon realizing how toxic his former friends were.]
* PyrrhicVictory: Bill may have resisted the intervention and even convinced his kidnappers into becoming geeks again, but he still gets all his collection stolen and left tied up alone.
* Pyromaniac:
** Inspired with Josh's commentary that anyone should burn the steel toys, Pete decides to burn them with his lighter, accidentally burning the Toys 'R' us store alongside it and getting the group banned from the store.
** [[spoiler: Upon ruining Joe's store, Bill finish destroying the place by burning the place to the ground and making it as his resignation.]]
* ShopliftAndDie: Having caught and fired his former assistant, Joe makes it clear to Bill that he will kill him if he caughts him stealing stuff from his store.
* StagingAnIntervention: Concerned by his son's habits, Bill's mother pays two guys to kidnap the boy, lock him in his basement and force him to into quitting his geeky life.
* VillainProtagonist: William "Bill" Dickey. This trait of him is more prominent on the last two chapters of the comic, fully antagonizing the other members of the group.
* VitriolicBestBuds: Deconstructed. Despite claiming to be friends, the group is always seen insulting and fighting at each other over petty things.
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they are together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end of when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]
The comic was adapted into a pilot for an animated series on Creator/CartoonNetwork's Creator/AdultSwim in 2002, but didn't got pitched.
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!!This comic has examples of:
* BreakingTheFellowship: Played often for laughs at the end of the episode with the tagline "Is this the end of The Eltingville Club". However, this is played straight in the last two episodes, [[spoilers: as the parents forbid them to seeing each other after Bill burns Joe's store, and at the last episode, where Jerry leaves for good.]]
* BorrowedCatchphrase: Jerry uses "Beedee beedee beedee" as his own catchphrase in reference to Twiki from Buck Rogers. In the pilot episode, this actually becomes important, as Bill and Josh's exhaustively long trivia showdown comes to an end when Bill asks who says "Beedee beedee beedee", and Josh blurts out Jerry instead of Twiki, causing him to lose.
* CardSharp: The dice variant. Is implied Bill's dice is loaded so he always can get a favorable result. Bill gets caught by the rest of the group at the start of "The Intervention"
* ChildrenAreInnocent: [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", Jerry reminises to the times where they started the club and were more innocent.]]
* FailedPilotEpisode: The comic was adapted into an animated episode but never got pitched.
* FatBastard:
** Joe, the comic store owner who often mistreats his costumers and takes advantage of their fanatism to sell his merch at ridiculous high prices.
** Josh, the overweight member of the club often pick up fights with Bill over petty stuff and acts pretty awful, specially when collections are involved.
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Bill, the self-proclaimed leader of the group, is the most disliked member of the gang, and with good reason
* FutureLoser: Most of the members of the group don't adapt to adulthood too well
** [[spoiler:Bill is still living with his parents
** [[spoiler:Josh is a failed comic writer working for a comic book news website and whose ideas always end up being rejected by publishers]]
** [[spoiler: Pete ends up balding and working as a film director specialized in creating horror porn, a position that he frequently uses to exploit desperate women.]]
* InternetJerk: [[spoiler: Bill ]]
* OnlySaneMan: Jerry Stokes Jr is this by comparison of the other members, as he has a more easygoing personality and is calmer than his peers. [spoiler: He's also the only one who succeeds in live and the only member who permanently decides to cut thies with them upon realizing how toxic his former friends were.]
* PyrrhicVictory: Bill may have resisted the intervention and even convinced his kidnappers into becoming geeks again, but he still gets all his collection stolen and left tied up alone.
* Pyromaniac:
** Inspired with Josh's commentary that anyone should burn the steel toys, Pete decides to burn them with his lighter, accidentally burning the Toys 'R' us store alongside it and getting the group banned from the store.
** [[spoiler: Upon ruining Joe's store, Bill finish destroying the place by burning the place to the ground and making it as his resignation.]]
* ShopliftAndDie: Having caught and fired his former assistant, Joe makes it clear to Bill that he will kill him if he caughts him stealing stuff from his store.
* StagingAnIntervention: Concerned by his son's habits, Bill's mother pays two guys to kidnap the boy, lock him in his basement and force him to into quitting his geeky life.
* VillainProtagonist: William "Bill" Dickey. This trait of him is more prominent on the last two chapters of the comic, fully antagonizing the other members of the group.
* VitriolicBestBuds: Deconstructed. Despite claiming to be friends, the group is always seen insulting and fighting at each other over petty things.
* ToxicFriendInfluence: The members became the worst versions of themselves each time they are together. [[spoiler: At the end of "This fan... this monster", their parents took notice of this at the end of when Bill burned Joe's store and forced them to abandon their friendship.]]