Follow TV Tropes

Following

History ComicBook / SuperSons

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In Issue #14, Jon proudly declares that he;s "faster than a speeding bullet", a reference to the classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}} cartoon tagline, "Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!"

to:

** In Issue #14, Jon proudly declares that he;s he's "faster than a speeding bullet", a reference to the classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}} ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' cartoon tagline, "Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!"
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** In Issue #14, Jon proudly declares that he;s "faster than a speeding bullet", a reference to the classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}} cartoon tagline, "Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!"
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** In Issue #14, Jon gets dog-piled by several members of the League of Assassins, prompting a nearby Gothamite to yell:
--->'''Lady:''' Hey! Someone's beating up that kid!


Added DiffLines:

* UnderestimatingBadassery: Both Jon and Damian are on the receiving ends of this trope due to their young age and Damian's lack of powers. One standout example is Issue #14, when Jon gets dog-piled by a bunch of assassins, prompting a nearby Gothamite, who thought he was simply a little boy in a costume, to try and help him before the assassins turned on her. Cut to Jon catching the sword, snapping it in half with little effort, and delivering a CurbStompBattle to the remaining assassins.
-->'''Lady:''' ''[to Jon]'' For a boy your age, the way you handled these guys was ''amazing!''\\
'''Jon:''' Well, evil beware when your name's--\\
'''Lois:''' '''''Superboy.''''' ''[cue OhCrap face from Jon]''

Added: 521

Removed: 399

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AntiHero: Damian full-stop. While he ''is'' manipulating a younger, inexperienced superhero (to the point of dropping Jon off a building to distract Luthor) and is conducting his investigation for less than altruistic motives (mainly proving himself in the eyes of his father and out of spite for being left behind on patrol), he ''is'' investigating a murder that's leading to a much larger plot.


Added DiffLines:

* AntiHero: Damian full-stop in the first few issues. While he ''is'' manipulating a younger, inexperienced superhero (to the point of dropping Jon off a building to distract Luthor) and is conducting his investigation for less than altruistic motives (mainly proving himself in the eyes of his father and out of spite for being left behind on patrol), he ''is'' investigating a murder that's leading to a much larger plot. He softens up over the course of the series, with his less heroic traits being played for laughs.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The League of Assassins is also happy to pick a fight with Jon... who is invulnerable to all of their weapons, can fly, and can knock any of them out with one punch, only lasting a little while by taking him by surprise. [[CurbStompBattle You can guess how well the rest of the fight went for them.]]

to:

** The League of Assassins is also happy to pick a fight with Jon... who is invulnerable to all of their weapons, can fly, and can knock any of them out with one punch, only lasting a little while by taking dog-piling him by surprise.all at once. [[CurbStompBattle You can guess how well the rest of the fight went for them.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** The League of Assassins is also happy to pick a fight with Jon... who is invulnerable to all of their weapons, can fly, and can knock any of them out with one punch, only lasting a little while by taking him by surprise. [[CurbStompBattle You can guess how well the rest of the fight went for them.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SuperDickery: Issue #14's cover depict's Damian standing alongside his mother with a bloodstained sword in hand while Jon lies fallen on the ground. Damian then declares, "It's done, Mother. Superboy is dead!" Of course, nothing like this happens in the story itself.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''Super Sons'' is a monthly comic series that began on February 15th, 2017 after [[DevelopmentHell months of delays and author changes]]. Written by Creator/PeterTomasi, the brains behind ''ComicBook/BatmanAndRobin'', and drawn by rising artist Jorge Jimenez, the comic stars Batman's youngest son [[Characters/{{Robin}} Damian Wayne]] and Superman's son and the newest Superboy, [[ComicBook/{{Superboy}} Jonathan Kent]]. While their dads are off superheroing, the pair of "[[VitriolicBestBuds frenemies]]" will face harrowing perils of their own and might just save the day... if they don't kill each other first.

to:

''Super Sons'' is a monthly comic series that began on February 15th, 2017 after [[DevelopmentHell months of delays and author changes]]. Written by Creator/PeterTomasi, the brains behind ''ComicBook/BatmanAndRobin'', and initially drawn by rising artist Jorge Jimenez, the comic stars Batman's youngest son [[Characters/{{Robin}} Damian Wayne]] and Superman's son and the newest Superboy, [[ComicBook/{{Superboy}} Jonathan Kent]]. While their dads are off superheroing, the pair of "[[VitriolicBestBuds frenemies]]" will face harrowing perils of their own and might just save the day... if they don't kill each other first.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Issue #14's cover shows Damian standing beside Talia over Jon's body, implying that Damian is brought back under Talia's influence and has killed or at least pretended to kill his friend to prove his loyalty. The story itself shows that Damian completely rejects Talia's attempts at winning him back to her side and [[BigBrotherInstinct gets angry at the notion that Jon will eventually die at his hands]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** ''Annual #1'' is this in every sense of the word. Other than the first few and the last few pages, Jon and Damian aren't even in the issue. Instead, the bulk of the issue is one gigantic loving ShoutOut to the Silver Age, as we see Krypto and Titus the Bat-Hound team up with [[ComicBook/PlasticMan Plexo the Plastic Bird]], Streaky the Super-Cat and [[ItMakesSenseInContext Bat-Cow]] to take down a pet kidnapper. [[spoiler: Who's an alien]]. And they even meet up with [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys Detective. Freakin.' Chimp.]]

to:

** ''Annual #1'' is this in every sense of the word. Other than the first few and the last few pages, Jon and Damian aren't even in the issue. Instead, the bulk of the issue is one gigantic loving ShoutOut to the Silver Age, as we see Krypto and Titus the Bat-Hound team up with [[ComicBook/PlasticMan Plexo Flexi the Plastic Bird]], Streaky the Super-Cat and [[ItMakesSenseInContext Bat-Cow]] to take down a pet kidnapper. [[spoiler: Who's an alien]]. And they even meet up with [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys Detective. Freakin.' Chimp.]]



** Damian's mom and his past as the prince of the League of Assassins is mentioned in passing when Jon confronts Damian at school.

to:

** Damian's mom and his past as the prince of the League of Assassins is mentioned in passing when Jon confronts Damian at school. This gets brought up again in ''Issue #13'' when Damian's mom shows up to make him an assassin again.



* DarkAndTroubledPast: Damian's is alluded to as early as the first issue when he offhandedly mentions that his mother killed his geology teacher and dumped the body into the ocean. It's also the focus of the "Mother's Day" arc, when Talia comes to bring her son back into the fold as Damian tries to preserve his friendship with Jon by continually downplaying the atrocities he committed as the prince of the League of Assassins while trying to stop Talia from doing more damage.

to:

* DarkAndTroubledPast: Damian's is alluded to as early as the first issue when he offhandedly mentions that his mother killed his geology teacher and dumped the body into the ocean. It's also the focus of the "Mother's Day" arc, when Talia comes to bring her son back into the fold as Damian tries to preserve his friendship with Jon by continually downplaying and distancing himself the atrocities he committed as the prince of the League of Assassins while trying to stop Talia from doing more damage.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* InsaneTrollLogic: Damian attempts to punish a jaywalker, arguing that his misdemeanor will inevitably lead to the guy holding up liquor stores and becoming a mook for a supervillain.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BookEnds: The first villain the boys faced in the series was Kid Amazo. Kid Amazo is also the last antagonist of the series before its end.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheDreaded: Nearly all of the League of Assassins members are scared of Damian. At least one ended up regretting picking a fight once he realized who he was dealing with.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DarkAndTroubledPast: Damian's is alluded to as early as the first issue when he offhandedly mentions that his mother killed his geology teacher and dumped the body into the ocean. It's also the focus of the "Mother's Day" arc, when Talia comes to bring her son back into the fold as Damian tries to preserve his friendship with Jon by continually downplaying the atrocities he committed as the prince of the League of Assassins while trying to stop Talia from doing more damage.


Added DiffLines:

* EvilMatriarch: Talia al Ghul, Damian's mother is undoubtedly this. She cares for Damian as much as he conforms to her vision for him as the favored pick for the leader of the League of Assassins. She has no problems holding a sword to his throat and handing that same sword to him while casually revealing that she murdered three people with it that day.


Added DiffLines:

** Again in ''Issue #13'' when Damian reveals that Talia al Ghul [[spoiler:plans on assassinating Lois Lane.]]
--->'''Damian:''' Oh no...\\
'''Jon:''' What-- What is it?\\
'''Damian:''' Mother was sent here to find her targets. One of the people on the list she's been hired to kill is [[spoiler:your--]] ''[spins the laptop around]''\\
'''Jon:''' '''''[[spoiler:MOM?!]]'''''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


The series was announced to be cancelled in the May 2018 solicitations, with the final issue being released in that month.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Issue 2 suggests Jon and Damian are going to fight Lex Luthor and his robotic minions. They don't throw any punches at Luthor and they promptly flee from him once they get what they want.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DudeWheresMyRespect: Damian is frequently mocked for his lack of powers by friend and foe alike even when these people have knowledge of what he's capable of. In some cases, people who really ''should'' know who he is (like Lex Luthor) simply can't believe that he's actually Robin. Jon is also prone to this trope courtesy of Damian, who refuses to allow Jon onto the Teen Titans on account of Jon's age even though the young Superboy has repeatedly proven his mettle and is arguably more powerful than the entire team combined. On the other hand, the Titans themselves wholeheartedly respect and appreciate Jon's abilities, which adds more fuel to the fire when the boys butt heads. [[spoiler:The events of ''Super Sons of Tomorrow'' ends up flipping their opinions, with Damian wholeheartedly advocating for Jon to be at least made a part-time member, but the rest of the Titans are too shaken and worried about their own teamwork to allow him to join.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* WhamLine: ''Super Sons of Tomorrow Part 4'' has one that works based on who's saying it given that [[spoiler: it was established in ''ComicBook/DetectiveComicsRebirth'' that the present of the DCU doesn't lead to the Titans Tomorrow future.]]
-->[[spoiler: '''Connor''']]: Who's in there?
-->'''Superman''': My ten year old son.
-->[[spoiler: '''Connor''']]: [[spoiler:Jon?!]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:After spending the last three issues of ''Super Sons of Tomorrow'' attempting to kill Jon, Savior ultimately uses a hypertime wormhole to suck away that energy that was consuming Jon, saving everyone in the process.]]
* HeroicWillpower: Jon gets a pretty spectacular showing when he [[spoiler:breaks free of Time Commander's attempts to stop time through sheer force of will when none of the Teen Titans were able to do so.]]

to:

* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:After spending the last three issues of ''Super Sons of Tomorrow'' attempting to kill Jon, Savior ultimately uses a hypertime wormhole to suck away that energy that was consuming Jon, saving everyone in the process. Subverted somewhat in that he ends up not dying despite fully expecting to.]]
* HeroicWillpower: Jon gets a pretty spectacular showing when he [[spoiler:breaks breaks free of Time Commander's attempts to stop time through sheer force of will when none of the Teen Titans were able to do so.]]



* IronButtMonkey: Damian rarely hesitates to use Jon as a distraction or human shield (including, but not limited to, throwing him off of a building) because his half-Kryptonian biology makes him liable to survive most perils.

to:

* IronButtMonkey: Damian rarely hesitates to use Jon as a distraction or human shield (including, but not limited to, throwing him off of a building) skyscraper before he learned how to fly) because his half-Kryptonian biology makes him liable to survive most perils.



* OhCrap: The end of the first storyline has [[spoiler:Damian and Jon returning to a ''very angry'' Lois and Alfred.]]

to:

* OhCrap: The end of the first storyline has [[spoiler:Damian Damian and Jon returning to a ''very angry'' Lois and Alfred.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FireForgedFriends: Jon and Damian practically ''hate'' each other when they first met back in ''[[ComicBook/SupermanRebirth Superman #10]]'', with Damian kidnapping and sedating Jon out of spite when Jon accidentally killed a red-tailed hawk and a cat with his Heat Vision. In the second issue, Damian outright says that he brought Jon along as a distraction for Lex Luthor instead of an actual crime-fighting partner, seeing the younger boy as a tool. But they warm up to each other as time goes on, with their vitriolic banter evolving into more playful dialogue as they begin to understand each other's quirks. By the twelfth issue, they're fully committed to being friends and crime-fighting partners even when outside forces try to drive them apart.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* RapidAging: [[spoiler:Damian is the victim of this at the end of the sixth issue, having been affected by the Time Commander's powers.]]

to:

* RapidAging: [[spoiler:Damian Damian is the victim of this at the end of the sixth issue, having been affected by the Time Commander's powers.]]



** [[spoiler:After Damian is revealed to have been reduced to an old man by the Time Commander, the next issue is titled [[ComicBook/OldManLogan Old Man Robin]].]]

to:

** [[spoiler:After After Damian is revealed to have been reduced to an old man by the Time Commander, the next issue is titled [[ComicBook/OldManLogan Old Man Robin]].]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ZergRush: Kid Amazo's strategy against the Super Sons, swarming them with dozens of robotic duplicates of themselves. [[spoiler:It works.]]

to:

* ZergRush: Kid Amazo's strategy against the Super Sons, swarming them with dozens of robotic duplicates of themselves. [[spoiler:It works.]]
-----
-->'''Jon''': This is a job for [[AC:Superboy]]![-[[BrickJoke ...and Robin]]-]
-->'''Damian''': [[VitriolicBestBuds I hate you.
]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* InterspeciesRomance: Krypto, a dog, and Streaky, a cat, apparently had a thing in the past. At one point Streaky looks longingly at Krypto and thinks about him in a heart-shaped thought bubble. There's also hints of an attraction between her and Titus.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BrainsAndBrawn: Most of the time, Damian is the Brains to Jon's Brawn, being the well-read and experienced BadassNomral to Jon's inexperienced FlyingBrick LightningBruiser. But sometimes Jon proves to be the more level-headed and reasonable of the two, with Damian's recklessness and ControlFreak tendencies leading him to "punch first and ask questions later" even when there's a simpler and less violent approach available.

to:

* BrainsAndBrawn: Most of the time, Damian is the Brains to Jon's Brawn, being the well-read and experienced BadassNomral BadassNormal to Jon's inexperienced FlyingBrick LightningBruiser. But sometimes Jon proves to be the more level-headed and reasonable of the two, with Damian's recklessness and ControlFreak tendencies leading him to "punch first and ask questions later" even when there's a simpler and less violent approach available.

Added: 1871

Changed: 15

Removed: 711

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BrainsAndBrawn: Most of the time, Damian is the Brains to Jon's Brawn, being the well-read and experienced BadassNomral to Jon's inexperienced FlyingBrick LightningBruiser. But sometimes Jon proves to be the more level-headed and reasonable of the two, with Damian's recklessness and ControlFreak tendencies leading him to "punch first and ask questions later" even when there's a simpler and less violent approach available.



* ConflictBall: [[spoiler:In ''Teen Titans #15'', the Titans sans Damian argue about what to do with Jon's potentially lethal Super Flare. Raven and Beast Boy want to follow Savior's lead and hunt down Jon in order to strip him of his powers or otherwise neutralize him even though Jon saved their lives a few hours ago, have knowledge of the fact that Jon only lost control because he was being pushed to the emotional brink by the guy they want to help, and literally just heard Savior admit to their faces that he's hellbent on murdering Jon and is fully willing to do the same to the Titans if they get in his way. Starfire, Aqualad, and Kid Flash want to find Jon first in order to protect him from them.]]



* ConflictBall: [[spoiler:In ''Teen Titans #15'', the Titans sans Damian argue about what to do with Jon's potentially lethal Super Flare. Raven and Beast Boy want to follow Savior's lead and hunt down Jon in order to strip him of his powers or otherwise neutralize him even though Jon saved their lives a few hours ago, have knowledge of the fact that Jon only lost control because he was being pushed to the emotional brink by the guy they want to help, and literally just heard Savior admit to their faces that he's hellbent on murdering Jon and is fully willing to do the same to the Titans if they get in his way. Starfire, Aqualad, and Kid Flash want to find Jon first in order to protect him from them.]]



* CurbStompBattle: In ''Super Sons #11'', the Teen Titans are being overcome by a group of supervillains who want to assassinate the delegates of the United Nations. Then Jon shows up out of the blue and takes all of them down in ''one page'' before any of the Titans could react or realize what had happened until Damian put the pieces together.



-->'''Jon:''' You think you're so cool. But you're not even a half-decent Batman!
-->'''Damian:''' ''[holds up tablet computer that's downloading Lexcorp's complete security logs with a yawn]'' You're right, I'm '''''better.'''''
* IronButtMonkey: Damian barely hesitates in using Jon as a distraction or human shield (including, but not limited to, throwing him off of a building) because his half-Kryptonian biology makes him liable to survive most perils.

to:

-->'''Jon:''' You think you're so cool. But you're not even a half-decent Batman!
-->'''Damian:'''
Batman!\\
'''Damian:'''
''[holds up tablet computer that's downloading Lexcorp's complete security logs with a yawn]'' You're right, I'm '''''better.'''''
* IronButtMonkey: Damian barely rarely hesitates in using to use Jon as a distraction or human shield (including, but not limited to, throwing him off of a building) because his half-Kryptonian biology makes him liable to survive most perils.


Added DiffLines:

* MundaneUtility: Jon's FlyingBrick power set is perfect for punching out superpowered crooks, stopping fleeing and falling vehicles dead in their tracks, and quickly hounding unsuspecting bank robbers. It's also great for getting cats out of trees and changing tires.


Added DiffLines:

* PowerWalk: How the Teen Titans are introduced in ''Super Sons #6'', with Beast Boy proudly announcing their entrance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AfraidOfTheirOwnStrength: [[spoiler:After using a Super Flare for the first time out of panic in Super Sons #11, Jon stricken with grief and becomes terrified of the prospect that he could kill millions of innocent people if it happens again and begins thinking of [[TheAloner isolating himself to prevent such an even from coming to pass.]]]]

to:

* AfraidOfTheirOwnStrength: [[spoiler:After using a Super Flare for the first time out of panic in Super Sons #11, Jon stricken with grief and becomes terrified of the prospect that he could kill millions of innocent people if it happens again and begins thinking of [[TheAloner isolating himself to prevent such an even event from coming to pass.]]]]]] Thankfully, Damian talks him out of this for the most part.]]



* HomeBase: The boys are rewarded for their hard work with an UnderwaterBase as a gift from their dads in ''Super Sons #10'', on the condition that the boys also keep up with their schoolwork. Jon wants to name it the "Fortress of Attitude", but Damian immediately tries to shoot it down.

to:

* HomeBase: The boys are rewarded for their hard work with an UnderwaterBase as a gift from their dads in ''Super Sons #10'', on the condition that the boys also keep up with their schoolwork. Jon wants to name it the "Fortress of Attitude", but Damian immediately tries to shoot it the suggestion down.

Added: 369

Removed: 369

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Did some more alphabetizing. this time in the bs.


* BatFamilyCrossover: The "Super Sons of Tomorrow" arc is one, bringing [[ComicBook/SupermanRebirth Superman]] and the [[Comicbook/TeenTitansRebirth Teen Titans]] as well as a few appearances by Franchise/{{Batman}} as they face off against [[spoiler:Tim Drake, the Batman of Tomorrow, who is hellbent on assassinating Jon to prevent millions of deaths in the future.]]



* BatFamilyCrossover: The "Super Sons of Tomorrow" arc is one, bringing [[ComicBook/SupermanRebirth Superman]] and the [[Comicbook/TeenTitansRebirth Teen Titans]] as well as a few appearances by Franchise/{{Batman}} as they face off against [[spoiler:Tim Drake, the Batman of Tomorrow, who is hellbent on assassinating Jon to prevent millions of deaths in the future.]]

Added: 299

Removed: 478

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Did some alphabetizing and Asshole Victim requires that Damian die, since he doesn't, it means he's not an example.





* AlwaysABiggerFish: [[spoiler:Kid Amazo may have been powerful enough to restrain Damian and Jon (whose powers are still developing), but he's not quite strong enough to take on Lex Luthor's Superman Suit, which is powered by New God technology (i.e. the stuff ''[[PhysicalGod Darkseid]]'' uses).]]



* AlwaysABiggerFish: [[spoiler:Kid Amazo may have been powerful enough to restrain Damian and Jon (whose powers are still developing), but he's not quite strong enough to take on Lex Luthor's Superman Suit, which is powered by New God technology (i.e. the stuff ''[[PhysicalGod Darkseid]]'' uses).]]



* AssholeVictim: Due to lacking powers, Damian is easily manhandled by Jon and most of their villains which usually happens after he's been a particularly huge jerk in that issue.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Invoked in ''Teen Titans'' #15, [[spoiler:where Tim Drakes tries to soften the blow by using "terminate" instead of "kill." Starfire forces him to be [[BrutallyHonest honest]] and just say what he means.]]

to:

** Invoked in ''Teen Titans'' #15, [[spoiler:where Tim Drakes Drake tries to soften the blow by using "terminate" instead of "kill." Starfire forces him to be [[BrutallyHonest honest]] and just say what he means.]]

Added: 362

Changed: 300

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MurderIsTheBestSolution: [[spoiler:The opinion of Future Tim, who now goes by "Savior". By killing Jon, he'll save million of lives in the future, and he refuses to provide or look for any non-lethal alternatives.]]

to:

* MurderIsTheBestSolution: [[spoiler:The opinion of Future Tim, who now goes by "Savior". By killing Jon, he'll save million of lives in the future, and he refuses to provide or look for any non-lethal alternatives. According to the other future heroes, the time travel is implied to be screwing with Tim's mind, making him believe this trope to be the case.]]



* NeverSayDie: Also, surprisingly enough, averted, with people being explicitly murdered on-screen as early as the second issue, with Jon of all people declaring them dead.

to:

* NeverSayDie: Also, surprisingly NeverSayDie:
** Surprisingly
enough, averted, with people being explicitly murdered on-screen as early as the second issue, with Jon of all people declaring them dead.dead.
** Invoked in ''Teen Titans'' #15, [[spoiler:where Tim Drakes tries to soften the blow by using "terminate" instead of "kill." Starfire forces him to be [[BrutallyHonest honest]] and just say what he means.]]

Top