History ComicBook / SpiderManAndBatmanDisorderedMinds

''Spider-Man and Batman: Disordered Minds'' is a 1995 alternate continuity one-shot {{crossover}} (though not under the ''{{Elseworld}}s'' label) written by J. M. [=DeMatteis=].

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* YouDontLookLikeYou: Ashley Kafka is depicted with [[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/6/6d/Ashley_Kafka_%28Earth-7642%29_from_Spider-Man_and_Batman_Vol_1_1_0001.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/150?cb=20130724163849 longer hair and wearing glasses]]. Making it weirder is that Bagley has drawn Kafka before, including during ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga''.

* EveryoneHasStandards: The Joker finds Carnage tasteless and [[{{Squick}} disgusting]] while Carnage is freaked out by the Joker's willingness to pull a TakingYouWithMe simply out of spite. Also, the Joker found Kasady's desire to get straight to killing boring and Kasady hated the Joker's fondness for theatrics.

* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Ashley Kafka believes that even monsters like Carnage and the Joker can be reached and rehabilitated, while Cassandra Briar is of the opinion that they're the worst that humanity has to offer and that there's no hope for them outside of what amounts to a high-tech lobotomy. And while Jeremiah Arkham doesn't go that far, he does mention that it would probably be best for everyone if the Joker was locked away for the rest of his life.

Franchise/SpiderMan and Franchise/{{Batman}} team up to stop ComicBook/TheJoker and ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. It was followed by ''ComicBook/BatmanAndSpiderManNewAgeDawning'' in 1998 which featured ComicBook/RasAlGhul and ComicBook/TheKingpin.

* VillainousHarlequin: The Joker starts out wearing a jester suit, though after meeting Carnage he ditches that look in favor of one of his trademark purple suits.

* AdultFear: The Joker and Carnage represent primal fears to Spider-Man and Batman respectively, and part of the story is them overcoming it to defeat the other's nemesis.

* ShoutOut: [[Film/BatmanForever "I'll pick up something while I'm out."]] Alfred's Happy Meal snark may be a jab at the film's ProductPlacement.

** Carnage lays a trap for the Joker by faking his own death using a corpse that he's covered in a replica of his suit, but Spider-Man and Batman ruin the surprise by bringing up how Cletus tried pulling the same stunt in "the ComicBook/MaximumCarnage affair."

* VillainousFriendship: The Joker and Carnage initially forge one, greatly enjoying each other and referring to each other as friends. It ends however when they get into an agreement over their preferred methods of mass murder; Carnage just wants to slaughter everyone mindlessly, while Joker prefers to kill people in style.

--> '''Joker:''' [[ComplexityAddiction It's not a question of stomach, my friend--it's a question of style! Any idiot...nothing personal, of course... can go out and slaughter a few thousand people--but where's the laughter and tears? The handstands and histrionics? In short, my dense and sanguine pal--where's the theater?]] I always thought of myself as the Creator/OrsonWelles of crime and chaos, while ''you'', apparently, aspire to be nothing but... Creator/DavidHasselhoff!

* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Joker finds Carnage tasteless and [[{{Squick}} disgusting]] while Carnage is freaked out by the Joker's willingness to pull a TakingYouWithMe simply out of spite. Also, the Joker found Kasady's desire to get straight to killing boring and Kasady hated the Joker's fondness for theatrics.

Franchise/SpiderMan and Franchise/{{Batman}} team up to stop ComicBook/TheJoker and ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. It was followed by ''Batman & Spider-Man: New Age Dawning'' in 1998 which featured ComicBook/RasAlGhul and ComicBook/TheKingpin.

''Spider-Man and Batman: Disordered Minds'' is a 1995 alternate continuity one-shot {{crossover}} (though not under the ''{{Elseworld}}s'' label) written by J. M. [=DeMatteis=]. Franchise/SpiderMan and Franchise/{{Batman}} team up to stop ComicBook/TheJoker and ComicBook/{{Carnage}}. It was followed by ''Batman & Spider-Man: New Age Dawning'' in 1998 which featured ComicBook/RasAlGhul and ComicBook/TheKingpin.

* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Joker finds Carnage tasteless and [[{{Squick}} disgusting]] while Carnage is freaked out by the Joker's willingness to pull a TakingYouWithMe simply out of spite.

--> '''Joker:''' [[VillainousFashionSense It's not a question of stomach, my friend--it's a question of style! Any idiot...nothing personal, of course... can go out and slaughter a few thousand people--but where's the laughter and tears? The handstands and histrionics? In short, my dense and sanguine pal--where's the theater?]] I always thought of myself as the Creator/OrsonWelles of crime and chaos, while ''you'', apparently, aspire to be nothing but... Creator/DavidHasselhoff!

* EvilIsStylish: When Joker is cured of his high-tech lobotomy, he's ''disguisted'' by the plain brown suit he's wearing, and uses ''Carnage's own claw'' to slash it up. This is also the reason the team-up between the two falls apart as the Joker's flair for the dramatic clashes with Carnage's desire to simply kill people.

--> '''Joker:''' [[EvilIsStylish It's not a question of stomach, my friend--it's a question of style! Any idiot...nothing personal, of course... can go out and slaughter a few thousand people--but where's the laughter and tears? The handstands and histrionics? In short, my dense and sanguine pal--where's the theater?]] I always thought of myself as the Creator/OrsonWelles of crime and chaos, while ''you'', apparently, aspire to be nothing but... Creator/DavidHasselhoff!

* VillainousFriendship: The Joker and Carnage initially forge one, greatly enjoying each other and referring to each other as friends. It ends however when they get into an agreement over their preferred methods of mass murder; Carnage just wants to slaughter everyone mindlessly, while Joker prefers to kill people [[EvilIsStylish in style]].