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* DidntThinkThisThrough: After the Lady Liberators knock out the Red Hulk, they decide to wait for him to revert back to see who he is. As they twiddle their thumbs and make small talk, Storm asks what would happen if Rulk doesn't revert no matter how calm he gets since Jennifer doesn't. Her pride still bruised, She-Hulk insists that they wait him out before calling SHIELD to pick him up, but this just gives the Red Hulk a chance to come to and escape.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: After the Lady Liberators knock out the Red Hulk, they decide to wait for him to revert back to see who he is. As they twiddle their thumbs and make small talk, Storm asks what would happen if Rulk doesn't revert no matter how calm he gets since Jennifer doesn't. Her pride still bruised, She-Hulk insists that they wait him out before calling SHIELD to pick him up, but this just gives the Red Hulk a chance (who was feigning unconsciousness for ''hours'') to come to lose his patience and escape.risk an escape despite still being surrounded.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: After the Lady Liberators knock out the Red Hulk, they decide to wait for him to revert back to see who he is. As they twiddle their thumbs and make small talk, Storm asks what would happen if Rulk doesn't revert no matter how calm he gets since Jennifer doesn't. Her pride still bruised, She-Hulk insists that they wait him out before calling SHIELD to pick him up, but this just gives the Red Hulk a chance to come to and escape.
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* CluelessMystery: Red Hulk's identity is revealed in issue #22. In the meantime, there's numerous fake-outs, switches, and unreveals as to just who this new Hulk might be, over and ''over'' again. Same with Red She-Hulk.
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* CluelessMystery: Red Hulk's identity is revealed in issue #22. In the meantime, there's numerous fake-outs, switches, and unreveals as to just who this new Hulk might be, over and ''over'' again. Same with Red She-Hulk. Issue #2 even has Banner highlighting that the absurdity of both the Hulk and the Marvel universe at large would make traditional investigative inferences and techniques difficult.
-->'''Bruce Banner''': The Hulk and I have been seperated before. How do you know this "other" Hulk isn't another manifestation of my psyche?
-->'''Bruce Banner''': The Hulk and I have been seperated before. How do you know this "other" Hulk isn't another manifestation of my psyche?
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* LighterAndSofter: After the gritty and cataclysmic events of ''Planet Hulk'' and ''World War Hulk'', this new volume by Loeb (and eventually Parker) features a more lighthearted murder-mystery, action-adventure romp with Banner's more colorful rogues (one of whom is now bright red) coming back into the spotlight.
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* LighterAndSofter: After the gritty and cataclysmic events of ''Planet Hulk'' and ''World War Hulk'', this new volume by Loeb (and eventually Parker) features a more lighthearted murder-mystery, action-adventure romp with many of Banner's more colorful rogues (one of whom is now bright red) coming back into the spotlight.
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* LighterAndSofter: After the gritty and cataclysmic events of ''Planet Hulk'', this new volume by Loeb (and eventually Parker) features a more lighthearted murder-mystery, action-adventure romp with Banner's more colorful rogues (one of whom is now bright red) coming back into the spotlight.
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* LighterAndSofter: After the gritty and cataclysmic events of ''Planet Hulk'' and ''World War Hulk'', this new volume by Loeb (and eventually Parker) features a more lighthearted murder-mystery, action-adventure romp with Banner's more colorful rogues (one of whom is now bright red) coming back into the spotlight.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: One of the earliest clues as to who the Red Hulk is comes in the very second issue where he somehow managed to sneak onto Stark's Helicarrier to attack the investigation team. As it's unlikely that he got into the craft fully transformed, he must have done so while still in human shape, and as someone who could do so without rousing suspicion from this more draconian iteration of SHIELD.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: One of the earliest clues as to who the Red Hulk is comes in the very second issue where he somehow managed to sneak onto Stark's Helicarrier to attack the investigation team. As it's unlikely that he got into the craft fully transformed, he must have done so while still in human shape, and as someone who could do so without rousing suspicion from this more draconian iteration of SHIELD. The issue after that, the Gamma Base toll booth scans his eye during his battle with A-Bomb, recognizing him as someone with clearance to enter the area.
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* ArcWords: Who is the Hulk? More obviously regarding who the Red Hulk is, but it also serves as a driving question as to who between him and Banner is ''the'' Hulk.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: One of the earliest clues as to who the Red Hulk is comes in the very second issue where he somehow managed to sneak onto Stark's Helicarrier to attack the investigation team. As it's unlikely that he got into the craft fully transformed, he must have done so while still in human shape, and as someone who could do so without rousing suspicion from this more draconian iteration of SHIELD.
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* CharacterDeath: Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent, is killed in a Red Hulk attack.
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* CharacterDeath: Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent, is killed in a while investigating the Red Hulk attack.Hulk.
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* HeroKiller: The Red Hulk murdered Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent.
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* HeroKiller: The Red Hulk [[spoiler:Samson, the SuperpoweredEvilSide of Doc Samson,]] murdered Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent.
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* AssholeVictim: Abomination most certainly had his fate coming, as weirdly-written as it may have been.
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Abomination most certainly had his fate coming, as weirdly-written as it may have been.
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* AuthorAppeal: Jeph Loeb really likes the Avengers story about the Lady Liberators, and so issue 8 and 9 are an homage to it.
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* BroughtDownToBadass: Banner, after getting the gamma drained out of him by Red Hulk. This might actually have been worse than leaving him all Hulk-y, since, without the threat of turning into the Hulk all the time, Bruce could come up with some very nasty ideas. It got to the point Norman Osborn tried to re-expose him to some gamma because he considered the Hulk ''easier to deal with''.
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'''''Hulk''''' is a 2008 series by Creator/MarvelComics comic launched in the aftermath of ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk''. It's written by Creator/JephLoeb and illustrated by Ed [=McGuinness=].
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'''''Hulk''''' is a 2008 series by Creator/MarvelComics comic launched in the aftermath of ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk''. It's Initially written by Creator/JephLoeb and illustrated by Ed [=McGuinness=].
[=McGuinness=], the series ran for 57 issues, with Jeff Parker taking over with issue #25. After issue #57 the series was retooled to ''Red She-Hulk''.
* AuthorAppeal: Jeph Loeb really likes the Avengers story about the Lady Liberators, and so issue 8 and 9 are an homage to it.
* BrokenRecord: The little girl who survived the Red Hulk / Abomination fight can only say "red" to herself over and over again.
* BrokenRecord: The little girl who survived the Red Hulk / Abomination fight can only say "red" to herself over and over again.
* CluelessMystery: Red Hulk's identity is revealed in issue #22. In the meantime, there's numerous fake-outs, switches, and unreveals as to just who this new Hulk might be, over and ''over'' again. Same with Red She-Hulk.
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* EvilCounterpart: The Red Hulk, to the Hulk, initially.
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* EvilCounterpart: EvilCounterpart:
** The Red Hulk, to the Hulk, initially.
** The Red Hulk, to the Hulk, initially.
** The Red Hulk also forms a counterpart to the Defenders consisting of himself, Baron Mordo, Terrax and Tiger Shark, called the Offenders.
* ItsPersonal: One of the first clues (and genuine clues) about Rulk's identity is the sheer devastation around his fight with the Abomination, leading Samson to note it was clearly something very personal.
* LateArrivalSpoiler: The Red Hulk's identity is a big mystery in Jeph Loeb's run. Not so much anymore, given a lot of merch and adaptations are pretty clear about just who Rulk is when he's not hulked out.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Red Hulk tries doing this in issue #2, pretending to be more bestial than regular Hulk, but Iron Man points out it doesn't work, since he already knows this Hulk is intelligent enough to use a gun.
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* TheReveal: TheReveal:
** The Red Hulk is ThunderboltRoss.Ross.
** Rick Jones, last seen at the end of ''World War Hulk'' being impaled by Miek, turns up alive... and then he turns into a new Abomination.
** Issue #6 has it turn out Samson has turned evil and knows who the Red Hulk is.
** The Red Hulk is Thunderbolt
** Rick Jones, last seen at the end of ''World War Hulk'' being impaled by Miek, turns up alive... and then he turns into a new Abomination.
** Issue #6 has it turn out Samson has turned evil and knows who the Red Hulk is.
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* SnapBack: Over the previous few years in ''Incredible Hulk'', a new Hulk persona called the Green Scar had shown up, far more of a GeniusBruiser than the typical Hulk. In the early issues, Bruce goes back to turning into the Savage Hulk without comment (in ''World War Hulks'', Greg Pak explained it as the Green Scar being sealed away in Bruce's mind).
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* GroinAttack: [[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/OVofMGl9QgwCaswYDFs4VRmlcrfLRky1w2psafraANFkah-Ly4aMDFBN1-4qCUiKf-KWXau1oHib=s1600 She-Hulk delivers a glorious one to Red Hulk]], after realizing he wasn't her cousin, meaning she didn't have to hold back.
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* LetsYouAndHimFight: Iron Man, She-Hulk and Doc Samson are investigating the Abomination's murder when the Winter Guard shows up and tell them to buzz off. She-Hulk, a trained lawyer, starts a fight for no real reason. Only the fact that a little girl shows up to distract both parties stops Jennifer from starting a potential international incident.
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'''''Hulk''''' is a 2008 series by Creator/MarvelComics comic launched in the aftermath of ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk''. It's written by Creator/JephLoeb and illustrated by Ed [=McGuinness=].
After the events of ''World War Hulk'', a new red-colored hulk has appeared.
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!!''Hulk (2008)'' provides examples of:
* AlienBlood: The Red Hulk has glowing yellow blood.
* AntiHero: Red Hulk is violent, almost sociopathic and trigger-happy.
* ButtMonkey: Jeff Parker did his best to give Rulk what was coming to him for all the behavior of the early issues - effectively dropping Ross' KarmaHoudiniWarranty. Unfortunately, this was not good news for anyone around Rulk...
* CatchPhrase: Under Loeb, Red Hulk was prone to yelling "I'm my own man, my own monster!"
* CharacterDeath: Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent, is killed in a Red Hulk attack.
* CreateYourOwnVillain[=/=]NiceJobBreakingItHero: Bad idea disconnecting the scientist trying to stop the Synthegraft subjects before she was done, Ross; now she's been transformed into supervillain Zero/One.
* CurbStompBattle: The Red Hulk delivered lots of these to other heroes, before Galactus brought his winning streak to an end. After this, Rulk was on the receiving end of many.
* DramaticIrony: General Fortean believes the Red Hulk killed Ross, and wants him dead. As such, he's unaware that the Red Hulk ''is'' Ross, or the extent to which he's following in Ross's footsteps. Ross, on the other hand, is all too aware of the irony.
* EnergyAbsorption: The Red Hulk can absorb various forms of energy, including gamma radiation and cosmic energy, to boost his strength. He's even able to use this on living beings, allowing him to permanently rob gamma mutates of their powers.
* EvilCounterpart: The Red Hulk, to the Hulk, initially.
** Red She-Hulk is the to She-Hulk.
* GatheringSteam: Averted. Unlike Banner, getting angry causes the Red Hulk to overheat and collapse.
* GlowingEyesOfDoom: The Red Hulk has glowing yellow eyes.
* HeroicRedRingOfDeath: The angrier Red Hulk gets, the hotter he gets, until he overheats.
* HeroKiller: The Red Hulk murdered Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent.
* TheInsomniac: Type D, superpowered. Red Hulk is able to go for long stretches without sleep... but even he needs to sleep eventually. It's very bad news when Fortean infected him with nanites that would kill him if he turned human, which he does whenever he sleeps. Ironically, this prevented Ross from taking the opportunity to show Fortean that Rulk and Ross are one and the same.
* KickTheSonOfABitch: Abomination most certainly had his fate coming, as weirdly-written as it may have been.
* KnockoutGas: Bruce is in a prison where if he ever tried escaping, his room would flood with gas. What the people who made the cell didn't count on was Bruce being able to hold his breath long enough to hulk out.
* LampshadeHanging: Issue #30.1, [[LiteraryAllusionTitle "The Whale"]], points out Ross and Fortean's similarities to [[Literature/MobyDick Captain Ahab]], and to each other. Ross is aware of the parallels; Fortean isn't.
* RedIsViolent: The Red Hulk is even more ravaging than Hulk himself.
* TheReveal: The Red Hulk is Thunderbolt Ross.
* ShapeshifterModeLock: [[spoiler:Red Hulk's EnergyAbsorption abilities are set to force this sooner or later. General Fortean implanted him with nano-mines set to go off when he turned human, but he managed to get them deactivated.]]
* ShutUpHannibal: The Red Hulk berates the Savage Hulk as a "brainless coward" who doesn't have what it takes to beat [[CombatPragmatist a ruthless opponent who will stop at nothing to win]]. The Hulk bites back with this:
--->'''Hulk:''' Red Hulk thinks Hulk is stupid. Red Hulk hurts everybody. Red Hulk likes to kill. Red Hulk is '''''bad''''' Hulk. [[PreAsskickingOneLiner Green Hulk stops Red Hulk here!]]
* TwoBeingsOneBody: The Compound Hulk in ''Hulk'' #30.
* WeaponizedExhaust: When the Red Hulk starts overheating, the heat is extreme enough to melt sand, let alone the effects it can have on his opponent.
* TheWorfEffect: Issue #1 has a particularly egregious version, wherein the Abomination is shot to death by the new Red Hulk to establish how dangerous it is.
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'''''Hulk''''' is a 2008 series by Creator/MarvelComics comic launched in the aftermath of ''ComicBook/WorldWarHulk''. It's written by Creator/JephLoeb and illustrated by Ed [=McGuinness=].
After the events of ''World War Hulk'', a new red-colored hulk has appeared.
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!!''Hulk (2008)'' provides examples of:
* AlienBlood: The Red Hulk has glowing yellow blood.
* AntiHero: Red Hulk is violent, almost sociopathic and trigger-happy.
* ButtMonkey: Jeff Parker did his best to give Rulk what was coming to him for all the behavior of the early issues - effectively dropping Ross' KarmaHoudiniWarranty. Unfortunately, this was not good news for anyone around Rulk...
* CatchPhrase: Under Loeb, Red Hulk was prone to yelling "I'm my own man, my own monster!"
* CharacterDeath: Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent, is killed in a Red Hulk attack.
* CreateYourOwnVillain[=/=]NiceJobBreakingItHero: Bad idea disconnecting the scientist trying to stop the Synthegraft subjects before she was done, Ross; now she's been transformed into supervillain Zero/One.
* CurbStompBattle: The Red Hulk delivered lots of these to other heroes, before Galactus brought his winning streak to an end. After this, Rulk was on the receiving end of many.
* DramaticIrony: General Fortean believes the Red Hulk killed Ross, and wants him dead. As such, he's unaware that the Red Hulk ''is'' Ross, or the extent to which he's following in Ross's footsteps. Ross, on the other hand, is all too aware of the irony.
* EnergyAbsorption: The Red Hulk can absorb various forms of energy, including gamma radiation and cosmic energy, to boost his strength. He's even able to use this on living beings, allowing him to permanently rob gamma mutates of their powers.
* EvilCounterpart: The Red Hulk, to the Hulk, initially.
** Red She-Hulk is the to She-Hulk.
* GatheringSteam: Averted. Unlike Banner, getting angry causes the Red Hulk to overheat and collapse.
* GlowingEyesOfDoom: The Red Hulk has glowing yellow eyes.
* HeroicRedRingOfDeath: The angrier Red Hulk gets, the hotter he gets, until he overheats.
* HeroKiller: The Red Hulk murdered Clay Quartermain, a long time supporting SHIELD agent.
* TheInsomniac: Type D, superpowered. Red Hulk is able to go for long stretches without sleep... but even he needs to sleep eventually. It's very bad news when Fortean infected him with nanites that would kill him if he turned human, which he does whenever he sleeps. Ironically, this prevented Ross from taking the opportunity to show Fortean that Rulk and Ross are one and the same.
* KickTheSonOfABitch: Abomination most certainly had his fate coming, as weirdly-written as it may have been.
* KnockoutGas: Bruce is in a prison where if he ever tried escaping, his room would flood with gas. What the people who made the cell didn't count on was Bruce being able to hold his breath long enough to hulk out.
* LampshadeHanging: Issue #30.1, [[LiteraryAllusionTitle "The Whale"]], points out Ross and Fortean's similarities to [[Literature/MobyDick Captain Ahab]], and to each other. Ross is aware of the parallels; Fortean isn't.
* RedIsViolent: The Red Hulk is even more ravaging than Hulk himself.
* TheReveal: The Red Hulk is Thunderbolt Ross.
* ShapeshifterModeLock: [[spoiler:Red Hulk's EnergyAbsorption abilities are set to force this sooner or later. General Fortean implanted him with nano-mines set to go off when he turned human, but he managed to get them deactivated.]]
* ShutUpHannibal: The Red Hulk berates the Savage Hulk as a "brainless coward" who doesn't have what it takes to beat [[CombatPragmatist a ruthless opponent who will stop at nothing to win]]. The Hulk bites back with this:
--->'''Hulk:''' Red Hulk thinks Hulk is stupid. Red Hulk hurts everybody. Red Hulk likes to kill. Red Hulk is '''''bad''''' Hulk. [[PreAsskickingOneLiner Green Hulk stops Red Hulk here!]]
* TwoBeingsOneBody: The Compound Hulk in ''Hulk'' #30.
* WeaponizedExhaust: When the Red Hulk starts overheating, the heat is extreme enough to melt sand, let alone the effects it can have on his opponent.
* TheWorfEffect: Issue #1 has a particularly egregious version, wherein the Abomination is shot to death by the new Red Hulk to establish how dangerous it is.
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