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* HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct: With the Forever Crystal, Captain America could have changed history. And not simply creating an alternate timeline, the Crystal allows to actually change history. He could have erased Nazi germany from history and prevented World War II, he was tempted by the idea, but realized that RealityWarpingIsNotAToy.
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* TheKirk: the Wasp
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* TheMcCoy: Hawkeye
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* TheSpock: Libra
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* {{Chronoscope}}: There are several here and there. The sensors of the time machine, Immortus' machines in Limbo, the visions that appear when entering Limbo, images summoned by the Time-Keepers, and so on.
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* [[BeethovenWasAnAlienSpy Richard Nixon Was an Alien Spy]]: Lampshaded. He had already been discovered, and the men in black were going to deal with him; but Immortus simply erased the whole timeline as a result. He couldn't risk humanity arming against enemies from the stars.
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* RetGone: In-story, the timeline visited by the Wasp and Captain Marvel. Immortus erased it completely.
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* {{Homage}}: The future visited by Giant Man and Captain America was an homage to TheWarOfTheWorlds, complete with "walkers" and all the stuff. Didn't you wonder why would the Badoon claim to come from Mars, in a comic book line filled with more fancy galaxies?
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* BadFuture: It begins with one. Earth is TheEmpire, and the Avengers are the PraetorianGuard.
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* BadFuture: It begins with one. Earth is TheEmpire, and the Avengers are the PraetorianGuard. Also the one visited by Giant Man and Captain America, similar to the "War of the Worlds"
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* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Deconstructed. Someone might wonder, with all the fancy technology available in the Marvel universe, which includes ships capable to go to other galaxies, why does Earth still has the overall technological level of the real world? Answer: because Immortus, GuardianOfTheMultiverse, is arranging things to stay that way.
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* BadFuture: It begins with one. Earth is TheEmpire, and the Avengers are the PraetorianGuard.
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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Immortus had to made the Avengers return to Earth immediately after the Operation Galactic Storm, so he influenced the Avengers with xenophobia, so that they refused to stay among alien races. He miscalculated: this xenophobia led them to execute the Supreme Intelligence for destroying its own empire (long story). And worse: this would began actons that laid the first steps of Avengers stellar corps, the antecedent of the First Terran Empire... the very timeline that Immortus was instructed to prevent!
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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: The motivation of the Time Keepers.
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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: The motivation of the Time Keepers. Nothing stops the march of the First Terran Empire, as no race in the universe proved to be a match for the human drive or the power of the Destiny Force
* InSpiteOfANail: The Time-Keepers wanted to prevent the existence of the sons of the Scarlet Witch, but Immortus tried to do so without killing anyone. He arranged things that prompted her romance and marriage with the Vision, as he reasoned that she could not have any children if she was married to a machine. But "''Immortus is not infallible, and destiny requires careful handling: it does not like to be thwarted''". Using magic, the Scarlet Witch had sons anyway, so Immortus had to help Mephisto to vanish them from existence.
* InSpiteOfANail: The Time-Keepers wanted to prevent the existence of the sons of the Scarlet Witch, but Immortus tried to do so without killing anyone. He arranged things that prompted her romance and marriage with the Vision, as he reasoned that she could not have any children if she was married to a machine. But "''Immortus is not infallible, and destiny requires careful handling: it does not like to be thwarted''". Using magic, the Scarlet Witch had sons anyway, so Immortus had to help Mephisto to vanish them from existence.
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* AllTheMyriadWays: Averted. The casual destruction of alternate timelines is not just an undesiarable thing, it's the very thing that the Avengers are fighting to prevent.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: The Time-Keepers have very legitimate concerns about humanity becoming TheEmpire. Their solution? Exterminate countless timelines. A mass-murder that would leave Galactus or even the Anti-Monitor as mere amateurs.
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* LostAesop: Everything was sent in motion because, in the future, humanity may become TheEmpire. As things go on, the Time Keepers became the villains of the story, that die and everything is right again. But... what about those bad futures? What's preventing them from coming to pass? A mere lecture from Captain America, and that's it? At least they could have used the Forever Crystal to erase the "Destiny Force" from the human race.
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* TheChosenOne: Rick Jones
* EnemyMine: The way the Avengers fought alongside Kang and the Supreme Intelligence
* EnemyMine: The way the Avengers fought alongside Kang and the Supreme Intelligence
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* ThrowingOffTheDisability: The Hulk had left Rick Jones crippled, and began the story that way. He managed to heal himself with the "Destiny Force"
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* EnemyWithout: Yellowjacket for Giant Man. He's the same man, Henry Pym, but lives in denial.
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* EnemyWithout: Yellowjacket for Giant Man. He's the same man, Henry Pym, but lives in denial. denial.
* FaceHeelTurn: [[spoiler:Yellowjacket]]
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* HeelFaceTurn: Libra
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* SelectiveObliviousness: Don't tell Yellowjacket that it's pointless from him to hate Henry Pym, that he ''is'' Henry Pym: he will deny any relation whatsoever with him.
** Back in ComicBook/TheCelestialMadonnaSaga, Kang denied that Immortus was his future self. Not anymore. He accepts as a fact of life that Immortus ''is'' him; but he still hates him more than anything else, and refuses to let himself become him.
** Back in ComicBook/TheCelestialMadonnaSaga, Kang denied that Immortus was his future self. Not anymore. He accepts as a fact of life that Immortus ''is'' him; but he still hates him more than anything else, and refuses to let himself become him.
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* EnemyWithout: Yellowjacket for Giant Man. He's the same man, Henry Pym, but lives in denial.
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** It also counts, in a lower degree, for Yellowjacket towards Giant Man
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* WhoWantsToLiveForever: Tempus keeps whining about thisthis
* WorthyOpponent: Kangs treats the Avengers as such.
* WorthyOpponent: Kangs treats the Avengers as such.
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* FutureMeScaresMe: Taken up to eleven. Here, "Future me is the single being I hate the most in all the multiverse"
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->'''[[ConquerorFromTheFuture Kang]]:''' History is not written, scholar, and neither is destiny! History is '''made'''! Made by the deeds of the strong and the brave! And destiny is forged! The historians, the students, the gray-beards - They come in the wake of the strong, and write down what the brave have done. But it is the conquerors who change the world, and it will always, '''always''', be thus!
->'''[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse Immortus]]:''' Conquerors are swept up in destiny's tides as surely as anyone else, Kang. And the scholars see the patterns, the truth. I have learned this, and you will, too, in time.
->'''[[GuardianOfTheMultiverse Immortus]]:''' Conquerors are swept up in destiny's tides as surely as anyone else, Kang. And the scholars see the patterns, the truth. I have learned this, and you will, too, in time.
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[ConquerorFromTheFuture Kang]] and [[GuardianOfTheMultiverse Immortus]], in their forever struggle]]
[[caption-width-right:350:[[ConquerorFromTheFuture Kang]] and [[GuardianOfTheMultiverse Immortus]], in their forever struggle]]
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* WeHaveReserves: Immortus does not go to war ''himself'', he simply uses his time manipulation to summon soldiers from all ages (from antique Babylon to futuristic soldiers and everything in-between). All 100% loyal to him, and it does not matter how many does Kang kill, because Immortus can summon hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, just by wishing so.
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* WeHaveReserves: Immortus does not go to war ''himself'', he simply uses his time manipulation to summon soldiers from all ages (from antique Babylon to futuristic soldiers and everything in-between). All 100% loyal to him, and it does not matter how many does Kang kill, because Immortus can summon hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, just by wishing so.so.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever: Tempus keeps whining about this
* WhoWantsToLiveForever: Tempus keeps whining about this
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* TimeStandsStill: Seen at the bad future that begins the story, and before Immortus tried to kill Rick Jones.
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* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: The motivation of the Time Keepers.
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* WeHaveReserves: Immortus does not go to war ''himself'', he simply uses his time manipulation to summon soldiers from all ages (from antique Babylon to futuristic soldiers and everything in-between). All 100% loyal to him, and it does not matter how many does Kang kill, because Immortus can summon hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, just by wishing so.
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'''Avengers Forever''' is a twelve-issue comic book limited series of ComicBook/TheAvengers published from December 1998 to November 1999 by Marvel Comics. The series was written by Kurt Busiek and Roger Stern and drawn by Carlos Pacheco and Jesus Merino. It has a massively complex plot, with a battle between Kang (a ConquerorFromTheFuture) and Immortus (a GuardianOfTheMultiverse); actually Immortus is the future self of Kang.
Let's try to make it short. Rick Jones suffers a strange paralysis, and the Avengers sent him to the Supreme Intelligence of the Kree (who was captive at the blue area of he moon), to see if he could heal him. Immortus tries to kill Rick Jones, but Kang intevenes in his behalf. Rick Jones, mastering once more the "destiny force", an all-powerful force he once wielded during ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar, summons several Avengers from many points of time: Henry Pym and the Wasp (from the present), Yellowjacket (Henry Pym when had a mental disorder; yes, he summoned the same man from 2 time periods), Captain America (right after the Secret Empire storyline, desmoralized by it and in the verge of giving up the super hero thing), Hawkeye (right after the Kree Skrull War), Songbird and Captain Marvell (from the future). The fight moves to Cronopolis, Kang's stronghold: Immortus destroyed it and turned it into the "Forever Crystal", which allows him to change timelines or destroy them at will.
The Avengers used a time machine of Kang to escape into the timestream, where Immortus would not locate Rick. Not knowing what is Immortus up to, or why does he want to kill Jones, the Avengers explored 3 points of time, to no avail. Then, they visited Limbo, Immortus' stronghold, and took a Space Phantom captive. The problem is basically this: with the "destiny force", humanity would become a conquering empire. Immortus spent years [[TheChessmaster manipulating human development]] to keep humanity confined to planet Earth, as to avoid the Time Keepers from destroying it, but Rick Jones' death was non-negotiable. Immortus then captured the Avengers and sent them to a trial.
The Time Keepers decided that humanity was a menace, and that they should destroy most timelines, leaving the bare minium. Reinforced by Kang, Rick and the Supreme Intelligence, the Avengers followed the Time Keepers to the end of time, where they were finally destroyed.
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!!''Avengers Forever'' provides examples of:
Let's try to make it short. Rick Jones suffers a strange paralysis, and the Avengers sent him to the Supreme Intelligence of the Kree (who was captive at the blue area of he moon), to see if he could heal him. Immortus tries to kill Rick Jones, but Kang intevenes in his behalf. Rick Jones, mastering once more the "destiny force", an all-powerful force he once wielded during ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar, summons several Avengers from many points of time: Henry Pym and the Wasp (from the present), Yellowjacket (Henry Pym when had a mental disorder; yes, he summoned the same man from 2 time periods), Captain America (right after the Secret Empire storyline, desmoralized by it and in the verge of giving up the super hero thing), Hawkeye (right after the Kree Skrull War), Songbird and Captain Marvell (from the future). The fight moves to Cronopolis, Kang's stronghold: Immortus destroyed it and turned it into the "Forever Crystal", which allows him to change timelines or destroy them at will.
The Avengers used a time machine of Kang to escape into the timestream, where Immortus would not locate Rick. Not knowing what is Immortus up to, or why does he want to kill Jones, the Avengers explored 3 points of time, to no avail. Then, they visited Limbo, Immortus' stronghold, and took a Space Phantom captive. The problem is basically this: with the "destiny force", humanity would become a conquering empire. Immortus spent years [[TheChessmaster manipulating human development]] to keep humanity confined to planet Earth, as to avoid the Time Keepers from destroying it, but Rick Jones' death was non-negotiable. Immortus then captured the Avengers and sent them to a trial.
The Time Keepers decided that humanity was a menace, and that they should destroy most timelines, leaving the bare minium. Reinforced by Kang, Rick and the Supreme Intelligence, the Avengers followed the Time Keepers to the end of time, where they were finally destroyed.
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