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* ADateWithRosiePalms: One of Giles' aunts discovers Faith's stash of stakes and refers to them in front of everyone as vibrators.
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** First Angel then Faith gain a FriendOnTheForce named Detective Brandt, a British copper. NamesTheSame as a hulking, vicious [[Film/{{Blitz}} Sergeant Brandt.]]

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** First Angel then Faith gain a FriendOnTheForce named Detective Brandt, a British copper. NamesTheSame Name's the same as a hulking, vicious [[Film/{{Blitz}} Sergeant Brandt.]]
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* ArmorPiercingSlap: Willow does this to Angel.
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* BroodingBoyGentleGirl: Angel and Faith, obviously, especially at the start of Season Nine, where Angel is recovering from [[spoiler:having killed Giles]].
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* AbsenteeActor: Angel himself in the first issue of "Those Who Can't Teach, Teach Gym." Justified in that he left to crossover onto the Buffy comics.
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* RoguesGalleryTransplant: [[spoiler:Amy]] is set up as this season's BigBad despite neither Angel or Faith having met her in canon.

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* RoguesGalleryTransplant: [[spoiler:Amy]] is set up as this season's BigBad despite neither Angel or nor Faith having met her in canon.on television.

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* NotSoDifferent:
** Buffy and Faith, of course: previously, Buffy had mentioned having a CelebCrush on Creator/DanielCraig. Here, Faith grills Angel on not dragging him to her to ravish.
** In the same issue: Spike and Angel. Faith points out that they understand each other better than anyone because they both clearly still carry a torch for Buffy. Spike vigorously tries to deny it, but we know -- no matter how much they claim to hate each other, they're VitriolicBestBuds.
---> '''Faith:''' Annnd cue the slap fight.

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* NotSoDifferent:
** Buffy and Faith, of course: previously, Buffy had mentioned having a CelebCrush on Creator/DanielCraig. Here, Faith grills Angel on not dragging him to her to ravish.
** In the same issue:
NotSoDifferentRemark: For Spike and Angel. Faith points out that they understand each other better than anyone because they both clearly still carry a torch for Buffy. Spike vigorously tries to deny it, but we know -- no matter how much they claim to hate each other, they're VitriolicBestBuds.
---> --> '''Faith:''' Annnd cue the slap fight.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler:Faith's father.]] He shows up sober for the first time in a long while and you think he might actually want to reconcile with Faith. [[spoiler:Wrong. Rather, he wants her to kill an Irish mobster he's been mixed up in shady dealings with, fully aware of her murderous past and willing to take advantage of it for his own benefit. Plus, the guy thinks he did what he had to do to provide for Faith, when he really spent most of her childhood as an alcoholic who ran out on his daughter and only resurfaced now without so much as a hello. In other words, a shitty father figure. Faith calls him out and he tells her that she'll never be a true hero simply because she is a Lehane and it is InTheBlood.]]

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* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler:Faith's father.]] He shows up sober for the first time in a long while and you think he might actually want to reconcile with Faith. [[spoiler:Wrong. Rather, he wants her to kill an Irish mobster he's been mixed up in shady dealings with, fully aware of her murderous past and willing to take advantage of it for his own benefit. Plus, the guy thinks he did what he had to do to provide for Faith, when he really spent most of her childhood as an alcoholic who ran out on his daughter and only resurfaced now without so much as a hello. In other words, a shitty father figure. Faith calls him out and he tells her that she'll never be a true hero simply because she is a Lehane and it is InTheBlood.]]

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* DeadpanSnarker: Faith and Giles' aunts. Angel also has his moments, particularly during the Harmony issue:
--> '''Angel:''' You know, when you started this story, I didn't think it was possible for me to care any less. But here we are.
--> '''Angel:''' I didn't realize how ''famous'' you were. Sorry, that stuck in my throat.

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* DeadpanSnarker: DeadpanSnarker:
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Faith and Giles' aunts. Angel also has his moments, particularly during the Harmony issue:
--> ---> '''Angel:''' You know, when you started this story, I didn't think it was possible for me to care any less. But here we are.
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are.\\
'''Angel:''' I didn't realize how ''famous'' you were. Sorry, that stuck in my throat.



* ParentalAbandonment: Connor. Angel refuses any contact with him, even ignoring his phone calls, because he thinks it will be better for him. Connor's fake family, the Rileys, [[AscendedFridgeHorror have lost all memories of him as a result of the magic being gone]] so he has lost them too.
** Faith of course.

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* ParentalAbandonment: ParentalAbandonment:
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Connor. Angel refuses any contact with him, even ignoring his phone calls, because he thinks it will be better for him. Connor's fake family, the Rileys, [[AscendedFridgeHorror have lost all memories of him as a result of the magic being gone]] so he has lost them too.
** Faith of course.Faith.



--> '''Angel:''' "Willow... can you handle Quor'toth?"
--> '''Willow:''' "Can I handle an [[EldritchAbomination Old One]]? The embodiment of the most hellish of all hell dimensions? Heh. Here's a better question, Angel. ''Can it handle me?''" ''(proceeds to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punch out Cthulhu.]])''

--> '''Spike:''' Me and Angel don't agree on much, but one thing's never changed. Put us together... and there will be blood.

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--> ** This one:
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'''Angel:''' "Willow... can you handle Quor'toth?"
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Quor'toth?"\\
'''Willow:''' "Can I handle an [[EldritchAbomination Old One]]? The embodiment of the most hellish of all hell dimensions? Heh. Here's a better question, Angel. ''Can it handle me?''" ''(proceeds to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punch out Cthulhu.]])''

--> '''Spike:'''
]])''
** Another:
--->'''Spike:'''
Me and Angel don't agree on much, but one thing's never changed. Put us together... and there will be blood.



* BlatantLies: After Faith tells Spike he'll probably get laid when he gets over Buffy:
--> '''Spike:''' Well, that's jolly good news for the womenfolk of London, because I'm over her right now... Nah. Even I wasn't buying that one.

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* BlatantLies: BlatantLies:
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After Faith tells Spike he'll probably get laid when he gets over Buffy:
--> ---> '''Spike:''' Well, that's jolly good news for the womenfolk of London, because I'm over her right now... Nah. Even I wasn't buying that one.



--> '''Spike:''' I am ''nothing'' like Angel!
--> '''Faith:''' Sure you are. Vampire with a soul, hung up on Buffy, fighting your own kind... you understand each other better than anyone on Earth. That's why you've got this whole back door bromance going.
--> '''Spike:''' "Bromance?" There is no "bromance"! And definitely nothing to do with back doors!
--> '''Faith:''' Sure. That's why you keep hanging out even though you say you hate each other.
--> '''Spike:''' We do not "hang out"! Circumstances thrust us together! Wait, not "thrust." Fate draws us together... we move in similar circles, all right?

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--> '''Spike:''' -->'''Spike:''' I am ''nothing'' like Angel!
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Angel!\\
'''Faith:''' Sure you are. Vampire with a soul, hung up on Buffy, fighting your own kind... you understand each other better than anyone on Earth. That's why you've got this whole back door bromance going.
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going.\\
'''Spike:''' "Bromance?" There is no "bromance"! And definitely nothing to do with back doors!
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doors!\\
'''Faith:''' Sure. That's why you keep hanging out even though you say you hate each other.
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other.\\
'''Spike:''' We do not "hang out"! Circumstances thrust us together! Wait, not "thrust." Fate draws us together... we move in similar circles, all right?



--> '''Angel:''' Fire in the hole!
--> '''Faith:''' I've always thought that sounded dirty. I mean, seriously, if I worked demolitions, I'd be giggling like a twelve year old every time I said it.

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--> '''Angel:''' -->'''Angel:''' Fire in the hole!
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hole!\\
'''Faith:''' I've always thought that sounded dirty. I mean, seriously, if I worked demolitions, I'd be giggling like a twelve year old every time I said it.



* ManipulativeBastard: Arguably Whistler.
** Faith's [[spoiler:father]] could qualify as well. Showing up claiming you want to [[spoiler:reunite with your daughter]] when you really want her to kill someone for you, it's a [[spoiler:no wonder Faith was ''pissed the fuck off''.]]

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* ManipulativeBastard: Arguably Whistler.
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Faith's [[spoiler:father]] could qualify as well. Showing up claiming you want to [[spoiler:reunite with your daughter]] when you really want her to kill someone for you, it's a [[spoiler:no wonder Faith was ''pissed the fuck off''.]]



--> '''Faith:''' "So that's the McGuffin?"
--> '''Angel:''' "The crown of coils."

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--> '''Faith:''' -->'''Faith:''' "So that's the McGuffin?"
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McGuffin?"\\
'''Angel:''' "The crown of coils."



--> '''Faith:''' Annnd cue the slap fight.

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--> ---> '''Faith:''' Annnd cue the slap fight.



--> '''Faith:''' "OhCrap. Hey, little, when you said we'd have to fight 'Quor'toth itself,' what did you mean?"
--> '''Demon:''' "The [[EldritchAbomination Old One]] who gives this world it's name. Why?"

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--> '''Faith:''' -->'''Faith:''' "OhCrap. Hey, little, when you said we'd have to fight 'Quor'toth itself,' what did you mean?"
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mean?"\\
'''Demon:''' "The [[EldritchAbomination Old One]] who gives this world it's name. Why?"



* WhatTheHellHero: Angel thinks Connor would be better off without him, so he pretty much abandons him. He doesn't even answer his phone calls, which Faith calls him out on.

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* WhatTheHellHero: WhatTheHellHero:
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Angel thinks Connor would be better off without him, so he pretty much abandons him. He doesn't even answer his phone calls, which Faith calls him out on.

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* ContinuityNod:
** When Angel, Willow, and Faith go to visit Connor:

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* ContinuityNod:
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ContinuityNod: When Angel, Willow, and Faith go to visit Connor:



* CelebrityParadox: In Buffy Season 8's [[{{ComicBook/Fray}} "Time of]] [[{{Crossover}} Your Life"]], The [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor and Rose]] made a brief appearance. In "In Perfect Harmony", [[TheNthDoctor David Tennant]] and Billie Piper appear.

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* CelebrityParadox: In Buffy Season 8's [[{{ComicBook/Fray}} "Time of]] [[{{Crossover}} Your Life"]], The [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor and Rose]] made a brief appearance. In "In Perfect Harmony", [[TheNthDoctor David Tennant]] Creator/DavidTennant and Billie Piper Creator/BilliePiper appear.



* TheCameo: Creator/DavidTennant and Billie Piper appeared in "In Perfect Harmony." Also a CelebrityParadox since [[TheNthDoctor the 10th doctor]] appeared with [[Series/DoctorWho Rose and the [=TARDIS=]]] in the future in Buffy Season 8.

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* TheCameo: Creator/DavidTennant and Billie Piper Creator/BilliePiper appeared in "In Perfect Harmony." Also a CelebrityParadox since [[TheNthDoctor the 10th doctor]] appeared with [[Series/DoctorWho Rose and the [=TARDIS=]]] in the future in Buffy Season 8.
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* ImmunityAttrition: Angel calls Spike in to help him deal with Eyghon the Sleepwalker, reasoning that while Eyghon can [[DemonicPossession possess the unconscious]] or [[PossessingADeadBody dead]], their status as vampires with souls would make them immune, since Angel ''did'' defeat Eyghon way back in "[[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS2E8TheDarkAge The Dark Age]]" in that manner. However, they're proven wrong; Eyghon has regained [[OneWingedAngel his true form and power]], and successfully possesses Spike.
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* [[UnclePennybags Aunt Pennybags]]: [[spoiler: Giles]]' latest WhatTheHellHero moment was to leave Faith everything in his will. If you know Faith you know she's [[AxCrazy usually]] fun to be around, but she's also putting that new found wealth to good use, from helping Angel and his research to paying off Arsenal football hooligans when Nadira picks a fight with them.

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* [[UnclePennybags Aunt Pennybags]]: [[spoiler: Giles]]' latest WhatTheHellHero moment was to leave Faith everything in his will. If you know Faith you know she's [[AxCrazy usually]] fun to be around, but she's also putting that new found wealth to good use, from helping Angel and his research to paying off Arsenal football hooligans fans when Nadira picks a fight with them.



* DistractedByTheSexy: Faith looks like she is going to pull this when a slayer picks a fight with the Arsenal football team, and she later muses how she would have done it before. It turns out Faith used beer as a viable solution to the conflict.

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* DistractedByTheSexy: Faith looks like she is going to pull this when a slayer picks a fight with the some Arsenal football team, fans, and she later muses how she would have done it before. It turns out Faith used beer as a viable solution to the conflict.



* WeNeedADistraction: One of Faith's Slayers picks a fight with a soccer team. Faith looks like she is going to flash them, only to draw attention to the drinks she bought so they'd lay off.

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* WeNeedADistraction: One of Faith's Slayers picks a fight with a some soccer team.fans. Faith looks like she is going to flash them, only to draw attention to the drinks she bought so they'd lay off.
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** And Faith being sick of being responsible for Angel, she's "not friggin' SpiderMan."

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** And Faith being sick of being responsible for Angel, she's "not friggin' SpiderMan.Franchise/SpiderMan."



--> '''Angel:''' You ever try finishing a sentence when Buffy's all worked up?
--> '''Willow:''' Oh, that is sexist. And funny and so very, very true.

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--> '''Angel:''' You ever try finishing a sentence when Buffy's all worked up?
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up?\\
'''Willow:''' Oh, that is sexist. And funny and so very, very true.
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* ClosetGeek: Not only does Faith have Franchise/{{Batman}} pajamas, she makes enough StarWars references to make one think she had been hanging out with Andrew.

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* ClosetGeek: Not only does Faith have Franchise/{{Batman}} pajamas, she makes enough StarWars ''Franchise/StarWars'' references to make one think she had been hanging out with Andrew.

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''Angel & Faith'' is a comic book continuation of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' that has been running since 2011 (concurrently with the Buffy comics) and follows ensouled vampire Angel and rebel Slayer with a cause Faith as [[TheAtoner they look to not only redeem themselves for past actions]], but also to keep others from making the same mistakes. Much of the series takes place in London at Faith's estate, formerly the home of Rupert Giles, which Faith inherited following the events of Season Eight.

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''Angel & Faith'' is a comic book continuation of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' that has been running since 2011 (concurrently with [[ComicBook/BuffyTheVampireSlayer the Buffy comics) comics]]) and follows ensouled vampire Angel and rebel Slayer with a cause Faith as [[TheAtoner they look to not only redeem themselves for past actions]], but also to keep others from making the same mistakes. Much of the series takes place in London at Faith's estate, formerly the home of Rupert Giles, which Faith inherited following the events of Season Eight.
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** In ''Death & Consequences'' does the jacket Faith wear look like it belongs to someone else? [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 Commander Shepard perhaps?]] Looks like our GamerChick had upgraded from the UsefulNotes/PlayStation the Mayor gave her to an {{XBOX}}.

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** In ''Death & Consequences'' does the jacket Faith wear look like it belongs to someone else? [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 Commander Shepard perhaps?]] Looks like our GamerChick had upgraded from the UsefulNotes/PlayStation the Mayor gave her to an {{XBOX}}.UsefulNotes/{{XBOX}}.
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** Faith says there ain't no saints in this room. Funny she should mention that: that's exactly who her actress Creator/ElizaDushku played in SaintsRow2.

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** Faith says there ain't no saints in this room. Funny she should mention that: that's exactly who her actress Creator/ElizaDushku played in SaintsRow2.''VideoGame/SaintsRow2''.
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* NoExceptYes:
--> '''Sophie:''' "We certainly don't associate with ''anyone'' who'd do something like ''that''. Wait. Yes we ''do'', don't we?"
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'''''Angel & Faith''''' is a comic book continuation of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' that has been running since 2011 (concurrently with the Buffy comics) and follows ensouled vampire Angel and rebel Slayer with a cause Faith as [[TheAtoner they look to not only redeem themselves for past actions]], but also to keep others from making the same mistakes. Much of the series takes place in London at Faith's estate, formerly the home of Rupert Giles, which Faith inherited following the events of Season Eight.

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'''''Angel ''Angel & Faith''''' Faith'' is a comic book continuation of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' that has been running since 2011 (concurrently with the Buffy comics) and follows ensouled vampire Angel and rebel Slayer with a cause Faith as [[TheAtoner they look to not only redeem themselves for past actions]], but also to keep others from making the same mistakes. Much of the series takes place in London at Faith's estate, formerly the home of Rupert Giles, which Faith inherited following the events of Season Eight.
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* BadassTeacher: What could possibly be a more BadAss gym coach than a Slayer? Faith likely took what she saw in school as lessons of what not to do, as well as her previous training and teaching experience, to avert SadistTeacher.

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* BadassTeacher: What could possibly be a more BadAss badass gym coach than a Slayer? Faith likely took what she saw in school as lessons of what not to do, as well as her previous training and teaching experience, to avert SadistTeacher.

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* OddFriendship: Faith and Fred are on their way to becoming good friends, despite being total opposites. Their relationship even parallels that of Buffy and Willow.

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* OddFriendship: Faith and Fred are on their way to end up becoming good friends, friends despite being total opposites. Their relationship even parallels that of Buffy and Willow.



* ShipTease: As of "Those Who Can't Teach, Teach Gym", Detective Brandt is clearly being set up as a love interest for Faith (which is fair, considering Faith's last known hookup was with Wood some twelve years prior, and it's mentioned [[NoodleIncident she dated a cop]]).
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** In ''Death & Consequences'' does the jacket Faith wear look like it belongs to someone else? [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 Commander Shepard perhaps?]] Looks like our GamerChick had upgraded from the PlayStation the Mayor gave her to an {{XBOX}}.

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** In ''Death & Consequences'' does the jacket Faith wear look like it belongs to someone else? [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 Commander Shepard perhaps?]] Looks like our GamerChick had upgraded from the PlayStation UsefulNotes/PlayStation the Mayor gave her to an {{XBOX}}.
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* SurprisinglyHappyEnding: You can almost hear Joss on the phone asking why the May 2015 issue ended on such a happy note. [[spoiler: Fred recovered and subdued Illyria, Angel and Faith are back together, Zaynetech had recovered their investigations and are set to rebuild, Nadira had comforted Koh and talked him out of revenge before resuming watch over a peaceful Magic Town...[[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and no Kennedy in sight.]]]]
** The season finale shows just what the team is capable of. [[spoiler: Magic Town rallies to Angel's aid resulting in a CurbStompBattle, the only casualty being a very minor comic character and Drusilla fleeing for her life. Archeus alone tries to fight but Nadira shows she's some magic goddess and seals him in the statue for a thousand years. The team celebrate with a barbecue and beer bash and everyone gets along really well with no last second twist or tragedy. [[TheStinger And the next issue of Buffy has...ah, Buffy choking a demon to death while crushing it's head against a wall]].]]

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* AllsWellThatEndsWell: You can almost hear Joss on the phone asking why the May 2015 issue ended on such a happy note. [[spoiler: Fred recovered and subdued Illyria, Angel and Faith are back together, Zaynetech had recovered their investigations and are set to rebuild, Nadira had comforted Koh and talked him out of revenge before resuming watch over a peaceful Magic Town...[[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and no Kennedy in sight.]]]]
** The season finale shows just what the team is capable of. [[spoiler: Magic Town rallies to Angel's aid resulting in a CurbStompBattle, the only casualty being a very minor comic character and Drusilla fleeing for her life. Archeus alone tries to fight but Nadira shows she's some magic goddess and seals him in the statue for a thousand years. The team celebrate with a barbecue and beer bash and everyone gets along really well with no last second twist or tragedy. [[TheStinger And the next issue of Buffy has...ah, Buffy choking a demon to death while crushing it's head against a wall]].]]
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** The season finale shows just what the team is capable of. [[spoiler: Magic Town rallies to Angel's aid resulting 8 a CurbStombBattle, the only casualty being a very minor comic character and Drusilla fleeing for her life. Archeus alone tries to fight but Nadira shows she's some magic goddess and seals him in the statue for a thousand years. The team celebrate with a barbecue and beer bash and everyone gets along really well with no last second twist or tragedy. [[TheStinger And the next issue of Buffy has...ah, Buffy choking a demon to death while crushing it's head against a wall]].]]

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** The season finale shows just what the team is capable of. [[spoiler: Magic Town rallies to Angel's aid resulting 8 in a CurbStombBattle, CurbStompBattle, the only casualty being a very minor comic character and Drusilla fleeing for her life. Archeus alone tries to fight but Nadira shows she's some magic goddess and seals him in the statue for a thousand years. The team celebrate with a barbecue and beer bash and everyone gets along really well with no last second twist or tragedy. [[TheStinger And the next issue of Buffy has...ah, Buffy choking a demon to death while crushing it's head against a wall]].]]
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** The season finale shows just what the team is capable of. [[spoiler: Magic Town rallies to Angel's aid resulting 8 a CurbStombBattle, the only casualty being a very minor comic character and Drusilla fleeing for her life. Archeus alone tries to fight but Nadira shows she's some magic goddess and seals him in the statue for a thousand years. The team celebrate with a barbecue and beer bash and everyone gets along really well with no last second twist or tragedy. [[TheStinger And the next issue of Buffy has...ah, Buffy choking a demon to death while crushing it's head against a wall]].]]
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** Take a look at the other main character. He's closer to [[Series/{{Bones}} Booth]] to brooding these days, with his kind of childish traits such as setting up a mano a mano vampire fight or confrontation simply to be dramatic even getting a little LampshadeHanging pasting.
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** ''VideoGame/BuffyTheVampireSlayerChaosBleeds'' has Faith allude to using stakes as dildos. Giles' aunts bust her on this.
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'''''Angel & Faith''''' is a comic book continuation of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' that has been running since 2011 (concurrently with the Buffy comics) and follows ensouled vampire Angel and rebel Slayer with a cause Faith as [[TheAtoner they look to not only redeem themselves for past actions]], but also to keep others from making the same mistakes. Much of the series takes place in London at Faith's estate, formerly the home of Rupert Giles, which Faith inherited [[spoiler:following his death at the hands of a possessed Angel]].

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'''''Angel & Faith''''' is a comic book continuation of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' that has been running since 2011 (concurrently with the Buffy comics) and follows ensouled vampire Angel and rebel Slayer with a cause Faith as [[TheAtoner they look to not only redeem themselves for past actions]], but also to keep others from making the same mistakes. Much of the series takes place in London at Faith's estate, formerly the home of Rupert Giles, which Faith inherited [[spoiler:following his death at following the hands events of a possessed Angel]].
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