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* LousyLoversAreLosers: Benji is a reasonably terrible person and when he and Beck have sex, it ends in a SpeedSex and him leaving her shortly after. Beck is so unsatisfied that she has to [[ADateWithRosiePalms finish the job herself]].

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* LousyLoversAreLosers: Benji is a reasonably terrible person and when he and Beck have sex, it ends in a SpeedSex and him leaving her shortly after. Beck is so unsatisfied that she has to [[ADateWithRosiePalms finish the job herself]].herself.
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* ALighterShadeOfBlack: Compared with Joe. Peach does keep nude photos of Beck without her knowledge or consent, but as far as the show went, [[spoiler:didn't ever try to kidnap or kill her.]]
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Peach's manic and manipulative behavior puts her into this category. She exhibits traits of Cluster B personality disorders.

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* PoisonousFriend: Especially to Annika, whose life she more or less ruins, but also more subtly to Beck, trying to turn her against everybody close to her.


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* ToxicFriendInfluence: Especially to Annika, whose life she more or less ruins, but also more subtly to Beck, trying to turn her against everybody close to her.

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* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: The mirror image. Benji is a reasonably terrible person and when he and Beck have sex, the latter is so unsatisfied that she has to [[ADateWithRosiePalms finish the job herself]].


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* LousyLoversAreLosers: Benji is a reasonably terrible person and when he and Beck have sex, it ends in a SpeedSex and him leaving her shortly after. Beck is so unsatisfied that she has to [[ADateWithRosiePalms finish the job herself]].

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* BastardBoyfriend: Benji is emotionally manipulative of Beck, frequently putting her down as well as cheating.


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* DomesticAbuser: Benji is emotionally manipulative of Beck, frequently putting her down as well as cheating.
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* RaisedCatholic: Possibly. She crosses herself in Peach’s memory. Of course, this may just be a casual gesture.
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* HistoricalCharactersFictionalRelative: Peach Salinger is a relative of Creator/JDSalinger, which gives her a fabulous lifestyle, a house full of valuable books, and some publishing connections.
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* OnlyOneName: Even in news articles, his surname is never given or said.
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Again, obnoxious douchebag, but he's at least somewhat sympathetic even if he's an idiot and revealed to be a murderer. Only Ron and Ryan are pure scum.


* HateSink: Benji is as Joe describes: "Everything that is wrong with America". He's over-privileged, vain, pretentious and the way he talks about Beck sounds outright misogynistic. That's all before we find out he got away with manslaughter.
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Arguably a POS, yes, but didn't deserve to be framed, did provide some good therapy and is somewhat sympathetic.


* HateSink: It's revealed that he took advantage of Beck's emotional vulnerability and had an affair with her, abusing his position. Not only that, but he's shown to be an unprofessional therapist in other ways, like smoking weed during his session with Joe.
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[[folder:Peach Salinger]]
!!Peach Salinger
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/ShayMitchell

A wealthy and influential socialite and Beck's best friend. Joe quickly comes to pick up on the fact that she has some psychotic traits of her own, such as her extreme possessiveness towards Beck.
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Maybe. Joe described Peach as being unnatural, harsh-looking, anorexic, and quite ugly. However, it's possible that she was always intended to be as beautiful as Shay Mitchell, and this was always meant to be a sign of Joe's UnreliableNarrator.
* AdaptationalSexuality: Possibly. In the book, Peach was unambiguously a lesbian and in fact seemed to lie about dating men rather than go on dates. Peach has sex with a guy, even though it's pretty clear she'd rather have Beck. It's possible that she is gay or bi.
* AloofDarkHairedGirl: With everyone; she can even be pretty aloof and snobby to Beck, she's very rude to Annika, and she ''hates'' Joe.
* AlphaBitch: Despite being in her mid-twenties, she still acts like one for their group of friend.
* AmbiguouslyBi: Peach has noisy sex with a guy, though the real object of her affections is Beck. It's left unclear if Peach likes men too, is lesbian though still pretending otherwise, or [[SingleTargetSexuality just likes Beck specifically]].
* AmbiguousDisorder: Peach's manic and manipulative behavior puts her into this category. She exhibits traits of Cluster B personality disorders.
* AssholeVictim: She -- like Joe -- wants to own and control Beck completely out of a twisted "love".
* AttentionWhore: Blows up Beck's phone, and even fakes a suicide attempt to keep Beck near.
* TheBeautifulElite: She's beautiful, rich and fashionable and looks down on Joe for being a poor bookstore clerk.
* BerserkButton: When Joe tells her that Beck will never return her romantic feelings, she absolutely loses it and tries to shoot him.
* ControlFreak: From her fitness regimen to her need to dominate her social circle, Peach needs to be alpha.
* CryingWolf: Peach is such an AttentionWhore that nobody believes her when she actually has a point, like with Joe being a stalker.
* DepravedBisexual: Peach may be bi, since she's quite obsessed with Beck and stalks her often (having taken a huge amount of photos she keeps archived) while also sleeping with a guy.
* DrivenToSuicide: Averted, but invoked. Joe fakes a suicide note to cover up his murder of her. The Salinger family ends up hiring a private investigator, believing Peach wasn't suicidal.
* EvenEvilCanBeLoved: Despite her horrible behavior, her friend group is genuinely saddened at her passing, with Beck in particular being noticeably depressed afterwards.
* FreudianExcuse: Curiously, she never provides one for her behavior, but ''Joe'' does, guessing that her conservative parents and their controlling parenting probably made her feel ashamed of her sexuality, and her crush on Beck. Said crush, which probably started off as perfectly healthy and normal, gradually grew to an obsession and a need to possess the object of her affection.
* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Peach's attitude makes her ''very'' hard to get along with. Even after her death, Annika acknowledges this, though they all do genuinely mourn her.
-->'''Joe:''' You didn't even like Peach.\\
'''Annika:''' None of us liked Peach. But we ''loved'' her.
* {{Gayngst}}: Implied she can't come out due to a rough relationship with her parents and her social status.
* IncompatibleOrientation: With Beck, which borders on SingleTargetSexuality because there's no reason why she couldn't hook up with another woman. She just loves Beck.
* ItsAllAboutMe: She cares about herself and Beck. Everyone else is expendable. And it still doesn't stop her from hurting Beck in an attempt to make her more dependent on Peach.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Her own ulterior motives aside, she is entirely correct in being suspicious of Joe and his interest in Beck, and also correct to suspect that he was the one stole her book and laptop.
* MaliciousMisnaming: Repeatedly calls Joe, whom she looks down on and comes to despise, "Joseph," despite him clarifying that it's just Joe.
* ManipulativeBitch: Peach will backstab, manipulate, and gaslight just about everyone, even her close friend and hopeless crush Beck, just so she can control them and feel superior to them.
* {{Narcissist}}: Oh, Hell yeah. She's self-absorbed, controlling, has an extremely high view of herself and low view of everyone else and has an insatiable desire for adoration and feels entitled to love from others despite her own poor treatment of them and she has no empathy even for the people she claims to care about.
* NonIndicativeName: She's named Peach but she definitely isn't one in terms of personality.
* OldMoney: She comes from an old-moneyed family.
* PoisonousFriend: Especially to Annika, whose life she more or less ruins, but also more subtly to Beck, trying to turn her against everybody close to her.
* OneHourWorkWeek: Unlike her friends who are students or freelance, Peach works a conventional 9-5 job. Like her friends, she seemingly has endless time and money for random cocktail parties and shopping trips.
* RichBitch: Most definitely. A snooty, Upper East Side princess.
* RightForTheWrongReasons: She's quite right to be suspicious of Joe but it's mostly because she's worried he'll take Beck away from her and interfere with her own desire to control Beck.
* SacrificialLion: Joe's main "obstacle" to win Beck's love, and is killed off by him halfway through the first season.
* StalkerWithACrush: Revealed to be one to Beck, even keeping an archive of photos of her on her computer.
* WithFriendsLikeThese: Frequently makes catty comments towards her friends, and sabotages their attempts at success for petty reasons.
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!!Paco
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/LucaPadovan

Joe's somewhat troubled young neighbor, whom he strikes up an IntergenerationalFriendship with.
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* BreakTheCutie: Ron beats up his mother, and Paco is powerless against this. He gets mad at Joe because Joe couldn't help him and in the end, he tries to get back at Ron and is nearly killed for his troubles.
* CorruptTheCutie: Joe is one of the few people who genuinely cares for Paco, but Paco lets Joe kill Beck due to his divided loyalties.
* HarmfulToMinors: Paco witnesses the murder of Ron, and leaves Beck screaming in the basement of Mooney's bookstore.
* MoralityPet: Paco is the only indication that there is at least a sliver of good in Joe's heart.
* PutOnABus: Although Joe also later moves to California, we don't see Paco and Claudia again after they leave in the final episode of Season 1.
* SecretKeeper: At the end of the first season, he protects Joe's secret that Joe captured and killed Beck.
* TroublingUnchildLikeBehaviour: Later on in the series, he attempts to steal a gun and kill Ron with it.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: He inadvertently reveals to Beck that Joe told him that the best place to hide things is in the tiles above the toilet, due to how the building is laid out. This ignites Beck's curiosity, which leads to her finding the evidence of Joe's murders and obsessive behavior while Joe is ''in the apartment with her''. Ultimately, this leads to her imprisonment and murder.
* YouRemindMeOfX: It's clear that he reminds Joe of himself, as both have abusive pasts.
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!!Annika Attwater
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/KathrynGallagher

One of Beck's friends, a social media influencer.
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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: Especially because she's an original character in the TV series.
* BadInfluencer: Downplayed and played with. She's a plus-size influencer and a genuinely sweet person, but she made some drunken comments about how [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt only black men are attracted to her curvy figure]], which Peach leaks in a deliberate attempt to make her look like this trope and causes her to get a lot of online hate.
* BigBeautifulWoman: A body-positive social media influencer.
* BigOlEyebrows: Has noticeably thick eyebrows. Her actress being Creator/PeterGallagher's daughter kind of makes this inevitable.
* ChildhoodFriends: With Peach.
* FallenPrincess: After a questionable video from college is leaked, her reputation is in shambles and her business partners want nothing to do with her.
* FatBestFriend: Was Peach's "fat friend from prep school", and is dying to shed that reputation.
* HollywoodPudgy: Peach and some other characters consider her overweight, despite her just being slightly more curvaceous than the other girls in her friend group. Subverted in that the show portrays this attitude as being absurd.
* NeverMyFault: While whether she deserved to have her career ruined over something she said while drunk several years ago is up for debate, she never actually acknowledges that what she said was racist or apologizes for it.
* PutOnABus: Doesn't appear after Season 1.
* ShipperOnDeck: A downplayed version to Joe and Beck, generally involving Joe in Beck's struggles with her group of friends, another way in which she is a foil to Peach.
* ThoseTwoGirls: With Lynn.
* WhereDaWhiteWomenAt?: Gender and race flipped. Peach leaks a video of her at college where Annika complains that only black men are into her body. It goes down ''extremely'' badly and she's humiliated across the Internet.
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!!Ethan
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/ZachCherry

Joe's employee at the bookstore.
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* BetaCouple: With Blythe.
* CommonalityConnection: He and Blythe both appreciate good writing.
* FatBestFriend: Best friend may be a stretch, but it's clear that Joe at least tolerates him. He even helps him move.
* NiceGuy: Despite his attitude occasionally getting on Joe's nerves, Ethan turns out to be a pretty supportive friend (for instance, being greatly supportive of Joe and Beck because of how happy she seems to make Joe and warning Beck not to bring up Candace because he believes Joe was heartbroken by her leaving) as well as a responsible coworker (gently taking Joe aside to tell him how Beck isn't working out as an employee.) He's also a doting boyfriend to Blythe, showing how excited he becomes to move in together with her.
* ShipperOnDeck: For Joe and Beck.
* WhatDoesHeSeeInHer: Less so than in the book, where Blythe is a rude, aggressive ControlFreak, while Ethan is the nicest guy in the world, but they are still an odd couple.
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!!Lynn Lieser
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/NicoleKang

Another one of Beck's friends.
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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: Like Annika.
* HardDrinkingPartyGirl: A more Downplayed example, and something of an InformedFlaw considering the show's narrator.
* NiceGirl: Probably the nicest of Beck's friends.
* RaisedCatholic: Possibly. She crosses herself in Peach’s memory. Of course, this may just be a casual gesture.
* SatelliteCharacter: Gets the least characterization out of Beck's friends. Lampshaded by Joe, who points out her lack of complexity and claims she only grows a personality when inebriated.
* ThoseTwoGirls: With Annika.
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!!Claudia
->'''Played by:''' Creator/VictoriaCartagena

Paco's mother.
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* ExtremeDoormat: She allows Ron back into her and Paco's lives, despite the fact that he's an alcoholic and an abuser. After he hospitalizes her, she tells them it was an accident despite it clearly not being one. Subverted in that she knows that his connections will probably mean she'll lose custody of Paco, so she chooses to continue letting him beat her.
* TheJunkie: One of the reasons Karen stays with her is to get her clean.
* ParentsAsPeople: Dealing with an abusive boyfriend, a son and what's implied to be low-income have left her an emotional wreck, reliant on drugs to cope with her lot in life.
* UselessBystanderParent: Justified by her drug use, but Claudia is incapable of looking after or protecting Paco due to her addiction and Ron's abuse.
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!!Ron
->'''Played by:''' Creator/DanielCosgrove

Claudia's abusive boyfriend.
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* AssholeVictim: Joe kills Ron in episode 10, right before the man can assault Paco for standing up to him. Absolutely nobody notices he's gone, and nobody cares.
* DirtyCop: A parole officer who abuses Claudia and threatens to use his connections to take her son away from her if she stands up to him.
* DomesticAbuse: He beats his wife, and later in the season even sends Claudia to the hospital in an ambulance with a neckbrace.
* HateSink: Unlike Joe, who is given a modicum of audience sympathy by the virtue of being the POV character, Ron has zero redeeming qualities.
* HeyYouHaymaker: Falls victim to a lethal version of this trope.
* GutFeeling[=/=]JerkassHasAPoint: About Joe
-->'''Ron:''' I'm a parole officer, ok? We see guys like this all the time. He's a sicko. I feel it in my gut.
* UngratefulBastard: Attacks Joe after the latter saves his life in episode 5 of season 1.
* WickedStepfather: He beats Claudia and Paco.
* WouldHurtAChild: It's implied that he beats Paco as well and even threatens to kill Paco after the latter attacks him with a baseball bat.
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!!Benjamin "Benji" Ashby Jr.
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/LouTaylorPucci

Beck's occasional hookup.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Benji is an unbearable, manipulative jerk in the book who has clearly made everyone's lives much worse, but this version of Benji, on top of all that, also killed a pledge during a botched fraternity ritual, and ''videotaped'' it.
* AssholeVictim: He's coldly killed by Joe. But given how much of an pretentious, slimy jerk he is, it's hard to really care.
* BastardBoyfriend: Benji is emotionally manipulative of Beck, frequently putting her down as well as cheating.
* BitchInSheepsClothing: Benji ''thinks'' he's a caring, good-hearted guy, and presents himself on social media as an upright, progressive thinker... he's really not.
* {{Blackmail}}: An unusual example, in that he essentially offers to blackmail himself. He offers Joe a video recording of his involvement in a frat brother's death in college, in exchange for his freedom.
* HateSink: Benji is as Joe describes: "Everything that is wrong with America". He's over-privileged, vain, pretentious and the way he talks about Beck sounds outright misogynistic. That's all before we find out he got away with manslaughter.
* {{Hipster}}: From his fashion choices, SoapboxSadie tendencies, and interest in being cool he's a typical New York hipster.
* ImaginaryLoveTriangle: Is shocked that Joe considers him a romantic rival, considering he sees Beck as a hookup at most.
* ItsAllAboutMe: Joe's plan to kidnap Benji hinged entirely on Benji being a glory hound and not letting his partner accompany him to make a huge business deal that Joe fabricated.
* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: The mirror image. Benji is a reasonably terrible person and when he and Beck have sex, the latter is so unsatisfied that she has to [[ADateWithRosiePalms finish the job herself]].
* TheJunkie: Uses heroin and a number of other drugs, and goes through an uwilling detox while kidnapped by Joe.
* MillionairePlayboy: Beck isn't the only girl on his radar.
* SacrificialLamb: Joe's first onscreen kill, demonstrating how far he'll go for Beck.
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: A go-to strategy for him.
* SnakeOilSalesman: That brand of soda he's been pitching as superior to all other sodas is revealed to be nothing new.
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!!Karen Minty
->'''Played by:''' Creator/NataliePaul

A friend of Claudia's, and a babysitter for Paco.
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* NeatFreak: Joe notes that she's at least equal parts neat and freak.
* NiceGirl: Snark aside, she's an even-tempered, friendly woman and kind babysitter to Paco.
* SatelliteLoveInterest: Although she and Joe date for at least a while, we learn very little about her as a person.
* TemporaryLoveInterest: Dates Joe while he and Beck temporarily break up.
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!!Dr. Nicky
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/JohnStamos

Beck ''and'' Joe's therapist, not that he realizes that.
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* BrokenBird: By the time he reappears in Season 2, he's completely cracked from being framed for the death of his mistress, having his marriage destroyed and being stuck in prison.
* ExhaustedEyeBags: Sports these in Season 2 due to having his life ruined.
* HateSink: It's revealed that he took advantage of Beck's emotional vulnerability and had an affair with her, abusing his position. Not only that, but he's shown to be an unprofessional therapist in other ways, like smoking weed during his session with Joe.
* HeelFaithTurn: When Forty visits him in prison, he reveals he's a born-again christian and not interested in life outside.
* LaserGuidedKarma: When Joe frames him for Beck's murder, he leaves clues that Nicky had been seducing her, upending his marriage.
* PutOnABusToHell: To prison, after being framed for killing Beck.
* TheShrink: Is Beck's AND Joe's therapist.
* TheStoner: Even lights up joints in front of his clients.
* TotallyRadical: Uses an insufferable amount of slang in an attempt to connect with his patients.
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!!Blythe
->'''Played by:''' Creator/HariNef

A classmate of Beck's.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Beck considers her to be her rival in graduate school.
* BetaCouple: With Ethan.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: She's snobby and sometimes downright rude, but she always means well, and she's a surprisingly sweet girlfriend to Ethan. She also compliments Beck on her submission once she finally gets to read it, whereas before her behavior had led the viewer to believe she was going to be unfairly critical, and she does genuinely try to help Beck's writing career in contrast to how Peach constantly stifled it.
* MeaningfulName: She is, indeed, very much a BlitheSpirit, especially when comparing her relatively untroubled life to what Beck has going on.
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Her success as a creative writer at a very young age and the tell-all nature of her writing -- particularly about her eating disorders -- makes it seem like she's named after RealLife teen poet [[https://blythebaird.com/ Blythe Baird.]]
* StatuesqueStunner: She's tall and attractive.
* WeightWoe: The fact that she won an award for an essay about her mom and herself developing bulimia at the same time is played for BlackComedy.
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[[folder:Sandy]]
!!Sandy
->'''Played by:''' Magda Apanowicz

Joe's mom.
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* GoldDigger: It's strongly implied that her plan for getting away from Joe's dad involves sleeping with wealthy men she meets for their money -- and that she's neglecting Joe and teaching him to lie to his dad in the process. All of this plays into present-day Joe's paranoia about infidelity and his madonna-whore complex about women.
* MommyIssues: All of her appearances have her dealing with difficulties that affect Joe to some degree. Telling is that all of Joe's love interest have gone through similar problems with him.
* ParentsAsPeople: She loved Joe very much, but she wasn't always the most present or competent parent. Still a damn sight better than [[AbusiveParents his father]], though.
* SingleMomStripper: She was sleeping with men because they had money, though it's ambiguous if she was literally a sex worker or not.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: [[spoiler:After Joe killed a man that was attacking her, she covered up everything and told Joe he did nothing wrong.]] This event is implied to be the start of Joe's issues, from his lack of remorse when he kills and maims people who wrong him to his deluded sense of gallantry towards women.
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[[folder:Mr. Mooney]]
!!Ivan Mooney
->'''Played by:''' Creator/MarkBlum

The owner of Joe's bookstore and Joe's father figure.
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* AbusiveParents: He disciplined a teenage Joe by locking him in the glass cage, imparting his twisted sense of love onto him. It's even implied that he sexually abused Joe.
* EvilCripple: When we see him in the present day, he is barely functional due to a debilitating stroke--and let's be honest, Joe probably had something to do with that too.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: A very dark example: he does love Joe and protects him after [[spoiler:his first murder]] but has a very harsh and twisted sense of ToughLove.
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