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* NoKillLikeOverkill: Frank finally overcomes him by [[spoiler: working on him with a fire-axe, burying it in his chest, then unloading an AK-47 into his head, practically disintergrating it]].
-->'''Frank''': Barracuda was dead when you shot him to bits and shot the bits and burned them. Anything less just left that nagging doubt.
-->'''Frank''': Barracuda was dead when you shot him to bits and shot the bits and burned them. Anything less just left that nagging doubt.
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* AntiVillain / VillainProtagonistAntiVillain: Type III
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* AntiHero: Varies between type IV and Type V in the MarvelUniverse, Type IV V in MAX.
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* AntiHero: Varies between type IV and type V.in the MarvelUniverse, Type IV in MAX.
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* UngratefulBastard: Rare 'heroic' version. If you aid the Punisher, even save his life repeatedly, don't expect him to show the tiniest amount of gratitude if you're on his 'bad' list. Or his 'good' list either, as Yorkie has found out.
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* UngratefulBastard: Rare 'heroic' version. If you aid the Punisher, even save his life repeatedly, don't expect him to show the tiniest amount of much gratitude if you're on his 'bad' list. Or his 'good' list either, as Yorkie has found out.
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* AntiVillain / VillainProtagonist
* ByronicHero
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-->'''Polly''': Eamon, that guy is the ''fucking Punisher''. '''''We have got to go'''''.
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-->'''Polly''': Eamon, that guy "that guy" is the ''fucking ''the fucking Punisher''. '''''We have got to go'''''.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards
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* EvenEvilHasStandarts EvenEvilHasStandards
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-->'''Polly''': Eamon, that guy is the ''fucking Punisher''. '''''We have got to go'''''.
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-->'''Polly''': Eamon, that guy is the ''fucking Punisher''. '''''We have got to go'''''. go'''''.
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* EvenEvilHasStandarts
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* BadassLongcoat: He frequently dons a black trenchcoat.
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* BadassLongcoat: He frequently dons a black trenchcoat.
* BadassNormal: Castle has no superpowers of his own, and typically most of his foes are either just mooks or other badass normals. However, he has gone toe-to-toe with various superheroes and villains in the past.
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** BadassGrandpa: In MAX
* ** BadassLongcoat: He frequently dons a black trenchcoat.
* ** BadassNormal: Castle has no superpowers of his own, and typically most of his foes are either just mooks or other badass normals. However, he has gone toe-to-toe with various superheroes and villains in the past.
** BadassGrandpa: In MAX
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* LawfulEvil: When he worked for the C.I.A.
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** Still, he definitely qualifies as a CompleteMonster. After all, he wanted to [[spoiler:kill his own father]] out of pragmatic reasons, and he's a murderer, rapist and most likely a sociopath.
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** Still, he definitely qualifies as a CompleteMonster. After all, he wanted to [[spoiler:kill his own father]] out of pragmatic reasons, and he's a mass murderer, rapist possibly a rapist, and most likely a sociopath.
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* VillainousBreakdown: As the {{Hannibal Lecture}} and {{Freduian Excuse}} catch up to him at the worst possible moment, Barracuda completely loses his wits and sense of fear, turning into a blood-crazed lunatic.
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* VillainousBreakdown: As the {{Hannibal Lecture}} and {{Freduian {{Freudian Excuse}} catch up to him at the worst possible moment, Barracuda completely loses his wits and sense of fear, turning into a blood-crazed lunatic.
* ADisgraceToBlackbeard: Polly, Eamon, and the River Rats.
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* CompleteMonsterCompleteMonster: Accidentally averted. Like [[{{Eight Bit Theatre}} Black Mage]], even though Rawlins has participated in or facilitated the blackest villainy, he is not the least bit scary--he's just too simpering, horny, and full of himself to be taken seriously. Even by the other characters in the story.
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* PragmaticVillanry: When sent to whack the Punisher, he very sensibly tries to snipe him, rather than try and go one-on one; it would have worked but then his ex-wife (who's still understandably [[Understatement ''pissed'']] at him for kicking her out of a helicopter into the hands of the Taleban) shows up...
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* PragmaticVillanry: PragmaticVillainy: When sent to whack the Punisher, he very sensibly tries to snipe him, rather than try and go one-on one; it would have worked but then his ex-wife (who's still understandably [[Understatement [[{{Understatement}} ''pissed'']] at him for kicking her out of a helicopter into the hands of the Taleban) shows up...
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* PermaStubble: Quite regularly.
* PerpetualFrowner: Frank's default expression
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* UsedToBeASweetKid: As seen in the one-shot ''The Tyger'' Frank was a tough but quiet, thoughtful kid who liked poetry, stood up to bullies who picked on weaker kids, and was friends with an older girl whom he had a crush on, and her older brother, a Marine. [[spoiler: Then this girl was raped by the jackass son of the local mafia don and killed herself. Frank then takes his father's gun and tails the don's son, intending to kill him, only to witness the girl's brother brutally murder the guy himself.]]
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* KickTheDog
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* SmugSnake
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* Jerkass: Loud, obnoxious, and rude to everyone he meets, even if they're his bosses.
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* Jerkass: JerkAss: Loud, obnoxious, and rude insulting to everyone he meets, even if they're his bosses.bosses.
* LawfulEvil: When he worked for the C.I.A.
* LawfulEvil: When he worked for the C.I.A.
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* PragmaticVillany: When sent to whack the Punisher, he very sensibly tries to snipe him, rather than try and go one-on one; it would have worked but then his ex-wife (who's still understandably [[Understatement ''pissed'']] at him for kicking her out of a helicopter into the hands of the Taleban) shows up...
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* PragmaticVillany: PragmaticVillanry: When sent to whack the Punisher, he very sensibly tries to snipe him, rather than try and go one-on one; it would have worked but then his ex-wife (who's still understandably [[Understatement ''pissed'']] at him for kicking her out of a helicopter into the hands of the Taleban) shows up...up...
* ReliableTraitor
* ReliableTraitor
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* WideEyedIdealist: Cooley's nephew really believes in the IRA, to an almost pitiful extent. Of course any sympathy you may have had for him evaporates after his (probably unintentional) crossing of the {{Moral Event Horizon}} early on.
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* WideEyedIdealist: Cooley's nephew really believes in the IRA, to an almost pitiful extent. Of course any sympathy you may have had for him evaporates after his (probably unintentional) crossing of the {{Moral Event Horizon}} early on.on.
'''William Rawlins'''
* BeardOfEvil
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: He has this ''bad''. He'll fuck over anyone he's working with (or sleeping with) to get ahead or save his own ass.
* CompleteMonster
* DepravedBisexual
* DirtyCoward
* ItsAllAboutMe: And ''how''!!
* Jerkass: Loud, obnoxious, and rude to everyone he meets, even if they're his bosses.
* ManipulativeBastard
* PragmaticVillany: When sent to whack the Punisher, he very sensibly tries to snipe him, rather than try and go one-on one; it would have worked but then his ex-wife (who's still understandably [[Understatement ''pissed'']] at him for kicking her out of a helicopter into the hands of the Taleban) shows up...
'''William Rawlins'''
* BeardOfEvil
* ChronicBackstabbingDisorder: He has this ''bad''. He'll fuck over anyone he's working with (or sleeping with) to get ahead or save his own ass.
* CompleteMonster
* DepravedBisexual
* DirtyCoward
* ItsAllAboutMe: And ''how''!!
* Jerkass: Loud, obnoxious, and rude to everyone he meets, even if they're his bosses.
* ManipulativeBastard
* PragmaticVillany: When sent to whack the Punisher, he very sensibly tries to snipe him, rather than try and go one-on one; it would have worked but then his ex-wife (who's still understandably [[Understatement ''pissed'']] at him for kicking her out of a helicopter into the hands of the Taleban) shows up...
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* PetTheDog/PragmaticVillainy: Cristu at least has the paper-thin excuse of genuinely not getting any pleasure out of torturing or killing people, seeing it as just the cost of business--for instance, he tries to spare the lives of some rival gang members, figuring that it's only necessary to kill one to get the rest of them to back off and even wanted to kill the one who had to die quickly and painlessly. Still, a {{Moral Event Horizon}} crossed is a {{Moral Event Horizon}} crossed, guy; no getting off that crazy train.
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* PetTheDog/PragmaticVillainy: PragmaticVillainy: Cristu at least has the paper-thin excuse of genuinely not getting any pleasure out of torturing or killing people, seeing it as just the cost of business--for instance, he tries to spare the lives of some rival gang members, figuring that it's only necessary to kill one to get the rest of them to back off and even wanted to kill the one who had to die quickly and painlessly. Still, a {{Moral Event Horizon}} crossed is a {{Moral Event Horizon}} crossed, guy; no getting off that crazy train.train.
** Still, he definitely qualifies as a CompleteMonster. After all, he wanted to [[spoiler:kill his own father]] out of pragmatic reasons, and he's a murderer, rapist and most likely a sociopath.
** Still, he definitely qualifies as a CompleteMonster. After all, he wanted to [[spoiler:kill his own father]] out of pragmatic reasons, and he's a murderer, rapist and most likely a sociopath.
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* MoralDissonance: Some of Frank's more spectacular rampages fall into this category, as there's no way everyone who died deserved it or even did anything bad in the first place. Probably the most notable example was that of the '''Barracuda''' arc, where he blows up an entire press conference on a boat--even though the author tried to {{Hand Wave}} it with a very contrived mass {{Kick the Dog}} moment among the corporate suits, he still ended up (offscreenedly) killing the caterers, reporters, and innocent boat campaign.
* UngratefulBastard: Rare 'heroic' version. If you aid the Punisher, even save his life repeatedly, don't expect him to show the tiniest amount of gratitude if you're on his 'bad' list. Or his 'good' list either, as Yorkie has found out.
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** Then subverted almost immediately as the Punisher just gives him a mean look in the middle of his attempted arrest and Soap breaks down whimpering.
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* ImAHumanitarianImAHumanitarian: Though really it was to show what a badass he was by eating said {{Masochists Meal}} rather than a regular thing.
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'''Nicky Cavella and Crew'''
* AbhorrentAdmirer: Theresa. While she isn't ''that'' bad looking, what really qualifies her for this trope is her attitude. Casually threatening to close peoples' penises shut, dropping {{Cluster F Bomb}}s at the drop of the hat, generally being a scary {{Jerkass}}. Like brother like sister. Nicky is very in denial when Rawlins points out Theresa has a crush on him, to boot.
* ArmoredClosetGay: Nicky with Rawlins.
* BrokenPedestal: While Tony was very supportive of Nicky's ascension at first, when he discovered just how badly he and his crew were screwed over by Nicky's carelessness he lets him have it.
* CompleteMonster: Ranking somewhere in vileness between MAX Kingpin and Tiberiu, though his carnage is considerably subdued compared to those guys. His flashbacks remove any lingering doubt over how evil he really is.
* GroinAttack: Pittsy and Theresa seem to have a thing for these.
* TooDumbToLive: Theresa, after feeling jilted by Nicky's rejections, goes into the Punisher's place without a gun in order to kill him in a blind rage. Even when she gets the drop on him, she doesn't even stab him correctly, instead nonfatally stabbing him so she can rant about how no one wants to touch her. All of this started because she thought that the best time to screw her boss was during a stake-out of the wounded Castle.
* VillainousBreakdown: After losing the respect of his {{Mooks}} and sight of Theresa, Nicky becomes a whimpering coward begging for mercy.
'''Kitchen Irish'''
* DangerouslyGenreSavvy / TooDumbToLive: Maginty is a rare case of being BOTH. He's very cunning and begins a campaign of psychological warfare and biting around the edges, looking to strike when the other players are weak (must've played a lot of {{Risk}} as a kid) and even correctly spots a hole in the Punisher's defenses and comes really close to killing him--too bad a mook screwed it up. Even so, he blindly walked into a trap a five-year old would've seen coming TWICE. First time he got lucky, second not so much.
* InformedAbility: Finn Cooley, both now and in later comics, constantly gets his {{Ax Crazy}} reputation hyped by other characters. But he's really one of the more level-headed and thoughtful villains of this {{Thirty Xanatos Pileup}}, at no point acting even a little bit unbalanced.
* KnightTemplarBigBrother: Eamon fancies himself as this, going so far as to kill a crewmate who made a tasteless incest joke about him and Polly--but Polly figuratively spits in his face when he tries to present himself as one of these to her, backhandedly calling him a failure.
* RetiredCompleteMonster: The takeaway this arc: do ''not'' mess with these people, no matter how nice or harmless they seem. Also, most of the named baddies in this arc were trying to become this.
* WideEyedIdealist: Cooley's nephew really believes in the IRA, to an almost pitiful extent. Of course any sympathy you may have had for him evaporates after his (probably unintentional) crossing of the {{Moral Event Horizon}} early on.
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-->'''[[ADisgraceToBlackbeard Polly]]''': ''[during a firefight as Frank is cornered behind a bar]'' We've gotta go!
-->'''[[TheDragon Eamon]]''': We've got this guy Polly! We've go-
-->'''Polly''': Eamon, that guy is the ''fucking Punisher''. '''''We have got to go'''''.
-->'''[[TheDragon Eamon]]''': We've got this guy Polly! We've go-
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* TheDreaded: ''Every'' crook and mobster (and most "street" level supervillains) brown their trousers at the mere mention of Frank. In the MAX continuity, the smarter crooks are shown to be the ones who know to run like hell when they see him.
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* BloodKnight: Tiberiu, again.
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* BloodKnight: Tiberiu, again. Almost considers Frank a WorthyOpponent ("this will be an interesting man to kill...") when he hears about the events of "Up is Down, Black is White," and claims that had [[spoiler:someone desecrated the body of his son Cristu's mother]], he would have killed ''thousands''.
** Turns out to be the downfall of the Bulats, as Tiberiu was interested in standing and fighting, and felt that Cristu was cowardly and womanly for wanting to avoid the Punisher... as Frank admitted near the end of the story arc, Cristu was right. The family tension over this led to [[spoiler:a failed attempt by Cristu to have Tiberiu killed]] and probably distracted Cristu enough [[spoiler:to make vulnerable by not paying his usual attention to personal security]].
** Turns out to be the downfall of the Bulats, as Tiberiu was interested in standing and fighting, and felt that Cristu was cowardly and womanly for wanting to avoid the Punisher... as Frank admitted near the end of the story arc, Cristu was right. The family tension over this led to [[spoiler:a failed attempt by Cristu to have Tiberiu killed]] and probably distracted Cristu enough [[spoiler:to make vulnerable by not paying his usual attention to personal security]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: They were veterans of Eastern Europe’s ethnic genocide, responsible for slaughtering the inhabitants of a ''dozen villages'', numbering in the thousands, during which Cristu had the idea of going into business using the women and girls from the last four villages. And it went even more downhill from there, as they kidnapped even more women, and began gang-raping them to break their spirits. As if all that wasn’t enough, when one of their prisoners escaped with her baby daughter, they re-kidnapped the baby and killed her, then sent the mother a [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel photograph]]. ]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: They were veterans of Eastern Europe’s ethnic genocide, responsible for slaughtering the inhabitants of a ''dozen villages'', numbering in the thousands, during which Cristu had the idea of going into business using the women and girls from the last four villages. And it went even more downhill from there, as they kidnapped even more women, and began gang-raping them to break their spirits. As if all that wasn’t enough, when one of their prisoners escaped with her baby daughter, they re-kidnapped the baby and killed her, then sent the mother a [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel photograph]]. ]]]]
* WouldHitAGirl: [[spoiler:When Frank finds out about what Vera's role was in the operation, he repeatedly throws her against a shatter-resistant window pane face-first. [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean The frame gives out before the pane does]]]].
* WouldHitAGirl: [[spoiler:When Frank finds out about what Vera's role was in the operation, he repeatedly throws her against a shatter-resistant window pane face-first. [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean The frame gives out before the pane does]]]].
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* KarmicDeath: What Frank does to Vera and the Bulats is pure {{High Octane Nightmare Fuel}}, but is it truly deserved? {{Understatement Absolutely}}.[[{{Understatement}} Absolutely]].
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* CelibateHero: Frank doesn't seem to have much interest in the ladies, but this is most likely justified by the fact that he still thinks about his family and/or he's too busy killing scum. He isn't opposed to sleeping with O'Brien in the MAX series though, but on the other hand he doesn't seem particularly enthusiastic about it either.
-->'''O'Brien:''' "I've been in jail around eighteen months. When we get through here, wanna jump in the sack?"
-->'''Castle:''' "Sure."
-->'''O'Brien:''' "I've been in jail around eighteen months. When we get through here, wanna jump in the sack?"
-->'''Castle:''' "Sure."
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* KarmicDeath: What Frank does to Vera and the Bulats is pure {{High Octane Nightmare Fuel}}, but is it truly deserved? [[Understatement Absolutely.]]Absolutely]].
