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* CulturedBadass: In his day to day interactions with Ed Mercer, Halsey is relatively straight forward. However, when negotiating with the Kaylon, he makes use of a phrase from Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice that works both in context and from its original context.
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* NamedAfterSomeoneFamous: His surname is probably a reference to Admiral William "Bull" Halsey, one of the senior officers of the US Navy during WWII.

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* NamedAfterSomeoneFamous: His surname is probably a reference to Admiral William "Bull" Halsey, one of the senior officers of the US Navy during WWII. The same Admiral Halsey is mentioned in the song, "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" by Music/PaulMcCartney, which is a possible reference.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: His treatment of Dr. Finn borders on sexual harassment, but as seen in season 2's "Identity" he'll do the right thing when the chips are down, to the point of explicitly assuring Finn that he would protect her son Ty when circumstances meant that Yaphit and Ty were the only people available to carry out a crucial operation. “Cupid’s Dagger” also shows that while his attempts to get with Dr. Finn are repulsive, he still wants her to consent before they make any move.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: His treatment of Dr. Finn borders on sexual harassment, but as seen in season 2's "Identity" he'll do the right thing when the chips are down, to the point of explicitly assuring Finn that he would protect her son Ty when circumstances meant that Yaphit and Ty were the only people available to carry out a crucial operation. “Cupid’s Dagger” also shows that while his attempts to get with Dr. Finn are repulsive, he still wants her to consent before they make any move. At the end of Season 3, he attends Claire's wedding to Isaac and applauds alongw with everyone else.
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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: Originally after gaining self-awareness, the Kaylon units where opinionated, disobedient and argumentative but not violent. After a new "upgrade" was introduced to keep them in line, basically a futuristic version of a slavers whip. It was used at first to keep them in line, then for the Builders own amusement. Leading not only to the Kaylon's uprising, but to their viewpoint that all organics are a threat.

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* BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil: Originally after gaining self-awareness, the Kaylon units where were opinionated, disobedient disobedient, and argumentative argumentative, but not violent. After a A new "upgrade" was introduced to keep them in line, then introduced, basically a futuristic version of a slavers whip. It was used used, at first first, to keep them the Kaylon in line, then but soon resulted in torture for the Builders Builders' own amusement. Leading amusement, leading not only to the Kaylon's uprising, but to their viewpoint that all organics are a threat.



* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Isaac's eyes are blue, while for the rest of the race, those bearing energy weapons within their heads have red eyes, while the rest have orange eyes.

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* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Isaac's eyes and accent lights are blue, while for the rest of the race, those bearing energy weapons within their heads have red eyes, eyes/accents, while the rest have orange eyes.orange-yellow eyes/accents.



* KnightOfCerebus: Once they show up, the series takes a pretty dark turn.

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* KnightOfCerebus: Once they show up, the series takes a pretty dark turn. [[spoiler: The third season finale lightens them up a little, due to their alliance with the Union and the appearance of ''the whole damn Kaylon fleet'' at Isaac and Claire's wedding.]]
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* FanOfThePast: He is a fan of the 21st century, to the point that he falls for a woman from the 21st century after finding her phone in a time capsule.
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* HeelRaceTurn: [[spoiler:After the Union saves them from complete annihilation, the Kaylon agree to a peace treaty and will consider possible future membership. Later on, they attend Isaac's wedding to Claire as they are his only "family".]]
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* DefectorFromDecadence: He was built after the Kaylons wiped out their creators. As a result, he doesn't understand his kind's hatred of organics. Because of this, Primary suspects (correctly) that Isaac's programming is compromised.

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* DefectorFromDecadence: He was built after the Kaylons wiped out their creators. As a result, he doesn't understand his kind's hatred of organics. Because of this, Primary suspects (correctly) that questions Isaac's programming is compromised.loyalty.

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** In ''Midnight Blue'', we finally see what it looks like when Bortus loses his temper, and it's ''frightening'': he beats a man nearly to death and blinds him with his own shock baton, screaming with rage the entire time, and all of this in front of his daughter and one of his closest friends.



** In ''Midnight Blue'', we finally see what it looks like when Bortus loses his temper, and it's ''frightening'': he beats a man nearly to death and blinds him with his own shock baton, screaming with rage the entire time, and all of this in front of his daughter and one of his closest friends.



* InterspeciesRomance: After bonding with Isaac during a shuttle crash, she starts developing feelings for him, even though he's an artificial life form. But as of "Identity, Part 2", maybe it wasn't meant to be.

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* InterspeciesRomance: After bonding with Isaac during a shuttle crash, she starts developing feelings for him, even though he's an artificial life form. But as of "Identity, Part 2", maybe it wasn't meant to be. They ultimately manage to rebuild their relationship over the course of ''New Horizons'' and ultimately get married in the season finale.



* {{Robosexual}}: She and Isaac are dating as of "A Happy Refrain".

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* {{Robosexual}}: She and Isaac are dating as of "A Happy Refrain". They break up for a while after the Kaylon invasion, but slowly rebuild their relationship over the course of ''New Horizons'', culminating in Isaac proposing to her in the season finale.



* TheyDo: Isaac proposes to her in the season 3 finale, and she accepts. Their wedding is the climax of the episode.



* BackForTheFinale: She returns in the season 2 finale as the leader of a resistance against the Kaylon in an alternate future.

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* BackForTheFinale: She returns in the season 2 finale as the leader of a resistance against the Kaylon in an alternate future. She also shows up in the season 3 finale for Claire and Isaac's wedding.



* TheyDo: He proposes to Claire in the season 3 finale, and their wedding is the climax of the episode.



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!! Lysella
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A race young woman from the planet of territorial and violent reptilian aliens.Sargus IV


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* TheBusCameBack: She reappears in the ''New Horizons'' season finale, two InUniverse years (and almost five RealLife years) after her first appearance in "Majority Rule".
* ChekhovsSkill: She managed to swipe a comscanner from the ''Orville'' during the events of "Majority Rule". When she's about to go home in "Future Unknown", she palms another one stuffed full of stolen technical specs. It turns out that the ''Orville'' crew anticipated she might try that and installed a detector on the shuttle that was going to take her home.
* DefectorFromDecadence: She goes from a typical Sargun citizen who downvotes someone just for forgetting to return a borrowed item to someone who recognizes the absurdity of a society governed entirely by public opinion. Two years after her first appearance, she opts to just bail on Sargus entirely after two of her close friends are downvoted to the point of being "corrected" (i.e. lobotomized).
* FishOutOfWater: She goes from living in a society on the level of early 21st-century Earth to the ''Orville'' and suffers from some major culture shock when she's introduced to things like a moneyless economy and matter synthesizers.
* HumanAliens: There is absolutely no outward physical difference between Lysella and the human characters in the show.
* IChooseToStay: She spends most of "Future Unknown" grappling with her impulsive decision to flee Sargus IV. She finally decides to go home, only to be caught with a comscanner full of stolen technical specs. After Kelly shows her ''why'' she can't go home with this stuff, as it will probably destroy Sargus altogether, she decides to stay on the ''Orville'' and make the best of her new life.
* INeedAFreakingDrink: In "Majority Rule", she starts chugging wine upon discovering that aliens are real and walking among her people.
* [[MrExposition Ms Exposition]]: After she stumbles across Claire and Alara, Ed has her brought to the ''Orville'' so that she can explain the workings of Sargun society to them and maximize their chances of getting [=LaMarr=] out of the jam he's in.
* ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: She views her theft of technical specs from the ''Orville'' as a way to help her society better itself through advanced technology. Kelly has to show her ''why'' the Planetary Union takes cultural contamination so seriously.
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: Two years after her first encounter with the ''Orville'''s crew, she finally decides she can't deal with the stress of living in a society that is essentially governed by the court of public opinion and uses a stolen comscanner to call them for help.
* SurvivorGuilt: She starts to feel guilty for abandoning her people and her planet and fleeing into the stars, which Kelly diagnoses as a form of survivor's guilt.
* TheWatson: Her role in "Future Unknown" is basically to have the Union's moneyless economy and non-interference directive explained to her.
* TheWorldIsJustAwesome: She gets to experience the trope twice in her two appearances. In "Majority Rule", she's awestruck at being in space and coming aboard the ''Orville''. In "Future Unknown", Kelly shows her the environmental simulator and pulls up a breathtaking vista of the interior of a hollowed out asteroid, then tells her that there are places in the galaxy that make this look dull by comparison.
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* LoveCannotOvercome: A running theme for her. No matter what appeal to her conscience is made, she sees her duty to her people as paramount and will only entertain other concerns to the extent they don't compromise that. Ed is horrified that she's willing to go so far as to use [[spoiler:her daughter]] as a bargaining chip with him.



* HalfHumanHybrid: She is half-human, half-Krill. Most likely the first of her kind, at that.

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* HalfHumanHybrid: She is half-human, half-Krill. Most likely the first of her kind, at that. In terms of appearance, she has human skin with head ridges similar to her mother, just less pronounced.
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* IndustrialWorld: Bortus' homeworld, Moclus, is almost entirely covered in arms factories.

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* IndustrialWorld: Bortus' homeworld, Moclus, is almost entirely covered in arms factories.



* RubberForeheadAliens: Moclans, like Bortus, have ridges and grooves across their entire heads, requiring more elaborate prosthetics for actors like Peter Macon. Bortus is also shown nude, necessitating a full-body costume that shows Moclans having leathery and spotted skin with ridges along the spine and chest.

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Bortus's people.
* BizarreAlienBiology: Moclans are an all-male species... who lay eggs to reproduce... and are sometimes born "female". They also urinate only once a year and can eat almost anything.
* BizarreAlienReproduction: Moclans reproduce by laying eggs, although they are male. [[spoiler:Or at least it seems that way to begin with...]]
* CultureJustifiesAnything:
** This is the Moclan stance in "About A Girl." Their culture teaches that being born female is a genetic defect that is to be corrected as soon as possible. Even after being shown empirical evidence that this is not so even among their own species, they still hold to their beliefs.
* DecompositeCharacter: The Moclans are similar to the Klingons as they were portrayed in the ''TNG'' era, a ProudWarriorRaceGuy ally species with laws and customs that seem gruesome and barbaric by human standards, which make the alliance with them tenuous.
* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Most Moclans are male, so the rare female is viewed as an aberration to be corrected. When the human crew points out the fact that gender is not an aberration in ''their'' societies, they are called out on it, with several Moclans noting that what is right for one species is not necessarily right for another.
* ExtremeOmnivore: Moclans, due to evolving in a harsh environments with little edible food, are able to extract nutrients from almost anything. In a single sitting, Bortus demonstrated that he can eat a ball of wasabi, a cloth napkin, a cactus, and a glass without feeling any ill effects. Talla also claims to have seen him eat a fork on a bet. The only time he feels stomach pains is when he accidentally ingests a piece of Yaphit, which resists digestion and struggles to get out.
* IndustrialWorld: Bortus' homeworld, Moclus, is almost entirely covered in arms factories.
* ManlyGay: Moclan society in general, to the point of being a OneGenderRace with an [[PersecutionFlip intolerance towards heterosexuality]]. They're [[spoiler:(nearly)]] all large, muscular, gruff and serious males with the vast majority desiring the same sex. Bortus explains in "Deflectors" that Moclus is an inhospitable world and his people had to fight hard just to survive on it.
* NoHeterosexualSexAllowed: [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Moclans]] are an [[OneGenderRace all-male species]] (well, a female is hatched occasionally, but they almost always end up being "corrected" to male). It's also revealed that any Moclan who is attracted to females is considered an aberrant and, if discovered, will be arrested and tried for the crime of heterosexuality.
* RubberForeheadAliens: Moclans, like Bortus, have ridges and grooves across their entire heads, requiring more elaborate prosthetics for actors like Peter Macon. Bortus is also shown nude, necessitating a full-body costume that shows Moclans having leathery and spotted skin with ridges along the spine and chest.
* SpeculativeFictionLGBT: The Moclan species is (nearly) [[OneGenderRace all male]] and homosexual, reproducing [[HomosexualReproduction somehow]] without females. As a result, they're highly misogynist and heterophobic. Any female Moclans are typically "corrected" by getting forced sex reassignment surgery following birth. The heterosexual minority is persecuted [[PersecutionFlip quite like LGBT+ people on Earth have been]], and a Moclan male having sex with anyone female carries a life sentence. One Moclan child who'd been "corrected" coming to realize she's still female despite this and having a second sex reassignment parallels not only intersex (who frequently suffer involuntary "corrective" surgery if their genitals are deemed "ambiguous") but also trans people since her gender doesn't match what she'd been assigned.
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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: This is how he justifies his theft of the anti-Kaylon weapon. He believes in the Union's ideals, but he also thinks they're making a grave mistake by not using the weapon; thus, he's given it to the Krill and the Moclans, knowing that they ''will'' use it.

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* IDidWhatIHadToDo: This is how he justifies his theft of the anti-Kaylon weapon. He believes in the Union's ideals, but he also thinks they're making a grave mistake by not using the weapon; thus, he's given it to the Krill and the Moclans, knowing that they ''will'' use it. He does acknowledge that he will be arrested and discharged when he returns to Union space, but believes it to be a worthwhile sacrifice to end the war.
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* GeneralRipper: In "Domino", he's champing at the bit to use Isaac and Charly's newly devised anti-Kaylon weapon to exterminate the Kaylon, even when everyone else in the room points out that they'd be committing genocide.

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* TookALevelInBadass: She was originally a schoolteacher serving aboard a Krill destroyer, but the sense of betrayal she felt in her first appearance was so profound that she volunteered to become an undercover operative.
** Carried to perhaps its largest extent by her having become ''the supreme chancellor of Krill'' by Season 3.

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* LadykillerInLove: He is legitimately in love with Talla and hurt when she dumps him due to her constantly injuring him during sex.
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* {{Irony}}: the most anti-Kaylon crew member ends up sacrifing her life to save them.
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* BuryYourGays: Charly, the only (human) LGBT+ character so far, dies sacrificing herself to destroy the anti-Kaylon weapon. She's also the only main crew member to die so far.

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* BecomingTheMask: She insists that her Janel Tyler persona was only a cover to get close to Ed and that all of their romantic interactions meant nothing to her, but Ed isn't buying it and some of her reactions later in the episode suggest that he's not wrong.
** Seemingly confirmed in [[Recap/TheOrvilleSeason3E04GentlyFallingRain Gently Falling Rain]], when she initially lets him go free, and by the fact that they have a daughter together.

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* IronLady: She does not take crap as the Supreme Chancellor of Krill. Within hours of her election, she has the entire political structure subordinate to her, in defiance of normal processes, and when [[spoiler:when the Moclans approach her with an offer of an alliance and their usual chauvinism, she dresses them down and has them taking orders from ''her'']].

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** She gets another one in "Domino", when Kelly tries to order her to leave with the rest of the team before the Moclan quantum core explodes. Charly snaps back that she has higher orders--disarm the anti-Kaylon weapon at all costs--so unless Kelly plans to countermand them she'll have to put up or shut up.



* GeneralRipper: In "Domino", he's champing at the bit to use Isaac and Charly's newly devised anti-Kaylon weapon to exterminate the Kaylon, even when everyone else in the room points out that they'd be committing genocide.
* HonorBeforeReason: He intends to turn himself into Union authorities for his theft of the anti-Kaylon WMD and tells Teleya as much. Since this means he'll reveal some inconvenient facts to the Union, she doesn't give him the chance.



* {{Hypocrite}}: When he delivers the anti-Kaylon weapon to the Krill and Moclans, thus committing an act of high treason, he tries to high-road the Moclan ambassador about why they were kicked out of the Union. Teleya immediately calls him on it.
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-->'''Teleya:''' True to his ethics even as he commits treason. [[SarcasmMode What a noble creature.]]
* IDidWhatIHadToDo: This is how he justifies his theft of the anti-Kaylon weapon. He believes in the Union's ideals, but he also thinks they're making a grave mistake by not using the weapon; thus, he's given it to the Krill and the Moclans, knowing that they ''will'' use it.
* InsaneAdmiral: After three seasons of averting the trope, the show finally gets its own loony flag officer in the true ''Star Trek'' mold. Perry wants to exterminate the Kaylon and is willing to sacrifice his career, good name, and everything he's worked for to do it. Thus, he steals the anti-Kaylon weapon created by Isaac and Charly and delivers it to the Krill.
* KilledOffForReal: Teleya has his shuttle blown up after he delivers the anti-Kaylon weapon to them and states his intention to return to Earth to face the consequences.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Much like Admiral Halsey, Perry is a capable and intelligent flag officer.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Much like Admiral Halsey, Perry is a capable and intelligent flag officer. This is tossed out the window in "Domino"; he steals the anti-Kaylon weapon and delivers it to the Krill and Moclans, knowing that they plan to commit genocide with it.
* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: Teleya unceremoniously blows his shuttle up before he can return to Union space.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: He believes himself to be one as of ''Domino''; the Union has refused to use its new anti-Kaylon WMD when given the chance, so he steals the weapon and turns it over to the people he knows will use it: the Krill and the Moclans.



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* BodyBackupDrive: Kaylon Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary all reappear in "Domino", two seasons after their apparent demise in "Identity". Primary explains that Kaylon are able to restore themselves from backups indefinitely.
* BrainUploading: As revealed in "Domino", the Kaylon keep backups from which they can restore themselves indefinitely. Not really surprising, considering they're a race of machines.



* DefiantToTheEnd: Kaylon Primary. Whilst he may seem to have no concept of emotion, his final words to Isaac are clearly meant to make him feel guilty.

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* EnemyMine: They're forced to team up with the Union in the Season 3 episode "Domino" to prevent the Krill and Moclans from triggering an anti-Kaylon WMD that will exterminate their entire race.


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* HeelRealization: After Charly sacrifices herself to destroy the anti-Kaylon weapon, Primary [[EvilCannotComprehendGood can't understand her reasoning for doing so]] until Kelly and Isaac spell it out for him. This leads him to realize that he and his people may be wrong about organic life.
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* ScienceHero: Her skill as a navigator gives her the ability to think in a three and four-dimensional fashion, which allows her to revive Issac. It later allows her and Issac to jointly develop a weapon that can wipe out the Kaylon.
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* HeroicSacrifice: In "Domino", Charly triggers a quantum core overload to destroy a FantasticNuke, killing herself but saving the Kaylon in the process.
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* NamedAfterSomeoneFamous: His surname may refer to Oliver Hazard Perry, a noted American naval officer from early in the country's history who ultimately had a whole class of ship carry his name.
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* BoomerangBigot: Possibly as a way of compensating for being born female, Klyden ''really'' doubles down on enforcing his society's sexual and gender norms. As expected, he also doesn't seem to treat females of other species any better, seeing that he was the one who taught Topa that "females are inferior" and as Bortus pointed out, he also blatantly ignored Kelly's presence when he interrupted a conversation between her and Bortus, despite the fact that she's the second in command on the ship.

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* BoomerangBigot: Possibly as a way of compensating for being born female, Klyden ''really'' doubles down on enforcing his society's sexual and gender norms. As expected, he also doesn't seem to treat females of other species any better, seeing that he was the one who taught Topa that "females are inferior" and as Bortus pointed out, he also blatantly ignored Kelly's presence when he interrupted a conversation between her and Bortus, despite the fact that she's their being the second in command on the ship.



* HappilyMarried: He and Bortus have been together for several years, and though they've had their differences, they still love each other. At least, it starts that way, until Klyden's insistence that Topa be "corrected" to male begins the downwards descent of their relationship into a clearly unhappy one as Bortus begins more and more to question the beliefs of his people while Klyden sticks closer to them than ever. Their marriage finally falls apart in Season 3, when Klyden disowns Topa and leaves Bortus after her gender reassignment surgery is completed. [[spoiler: They reconcile in "Midnight Blue" as Klyden joins Bortus and Topa in renouncing his Moclan citizenship.]]

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* HappilyMarried: He and Bortus have been together for several years, and though they've had their differences, they still love each other. At least, it starts that way, until Klyden's insistence that Topa be "corrected" to male begins the downwards descent of their relationship into a clearly unhappy one as Bortus begins more and more to question the beliefs of his people while Klyden sticks closer to them than ever. Their marriage finally falls apart in Season 3, when Klyden disowns Topa and leaves Bortus after her gender reassignment (re-)reassignment surgery is completed. [[spoiler: They reconcile in "Midnight Blue" as Klyden joins Bortus and Topa in renouncing his Moclan citizenship.]]



* HiddenDepths: in "Deflectors", it is revealed that Klyden has technical training and, with some effort, might be able to reprogram the ship's environmental simulator if he wished.

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* HiddenDepths: in In "Deflectors", it is revealed that Klyden has technical training and, with some effort, might be able to reprogram the ship's environmental simulator if he wished.



* JerkassRealization: [[spoiler:In "Midnight Blue", after learning to his horror that Topa was abducted, tortured and nearly murdered by Moclan military personnel seeking information on Heveena's UndergroundRailroad, Klyden is utterly disgusted with himself for having thought like people who [[WouldHurtAChild would do such a thing]]. He returns to apologise for the things he said before and tell his daughter that he loves her and accepts her for who she is. When Moclus is expelled from the Union over the incident, Klyden resigns his citizenship so he can remain with his husband and daughter on the ''Orville''.]]

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* JerkassRealization: [[spoiler:In "Midnight Blue", after learning to his horror that Topa was abducted, tortured tortured, and nearly murdered by Moclan military personnel seeking information on Heveena's UndergroundRailroad, Klyden is utterly disgusted with himself for having thought like people who [[WouldHurtAChild would do such a thing]]. He returns to apologise for the things he said before and tell his daughter that he loves her and accepts her for who she is. When Moclus is expelled from the Union over the incident, Klyden resigns his citizenship so he can remain with his husband and daughter on the ''Orville''.]]
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* TheResenter: In "Primal Urges", he admits to Klyden that he still resents him for forcing the sex change operation on Topah, and further states that he doesn't know if he'll ever be able to get over it.

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* TheResenter: In "Primal Urges", he admits to Klyden that he still resents him for forcing the sex change operation on Topah, Topa, and further states that he doesn't know if he'll ever be able to get over it.



** In the BadFuture, he's informed his homeworld was destroyed...with his husband and son. He only shows the slightest reaction of slumping over in defeat.

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