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removing arranged marriage as it's speculative. removing all for nothing because Edgar did get what he wanted, just not in a way that was happy for anyone else. Changing Could Have Avoided This Plot to irony (there's no guarantee Fay would have willingly left Sillof for him at that point) | removing ambiguously bi and it's not ambiguous hat Byron is homosexual according to the notes on the character.
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* ActOfTrueLove: She proves she really loved Jasper when she destroyed the doll his soul was bonded to, no matter how much it hurted her losing him again.
* ArrangedMarriage: The narrator says she married, but considering her self seclusion after destroying Jasper and her father's helicopter tendencies, it's possible he married her up.
* ArrangedMarriage: The narrator says she married, but considering her self seclusion after destroying Jasper and her father's helicopter tendencies, it's possible he married her up.
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* ActOfTrueLove: She proves she really loved Jasper when she destroyed the doll his soul was bonded to, no matter how much it hurted hurt her losing him again.
* ArrangedMarriage: The narrator says she married, but considering her self seclusion after destroying Jasper and her father's helicopter tendencies, it's possible he married her up.again.
* ArrangedMarriage: The narrator says she married, but considering her self seclusion after destroying Jasper and her father's helicopter tendencies, it's possible he married her up.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Her attempt to resurrect Jasper results in a century or so of horror for New Albion.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Her attempt to resurrect Jasper results in a century or so of horror for New Albion.
Albion after Edgar finds her formula and puts it to entrepreneurial use.
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* CameBackWrong: Pretty much his entire story arc as all dolls find their return to life excruciating.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: Much of his existence is suffering due to the fact he is unable to do much of anything as a doll.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: Much of his existence is suffering due to the fact he is unable to do much of anything as a doll.
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* RadioVoice: Unlike the other characters, his voice has some distortion to it. This is because in-universe he's "speaking" by stringing together sounds from radio broadcasts.
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* AllForNothing: Becomes the richest man in New Albion and gets nothing he actually wants,
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: WordOfGod is the fact that Fay turned down his marriage proposal just because he didn't seem to have any ambition or drive.
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* LoveMakesYouEvil: His obsession with Fay causes him to become a monster.
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* {{Irony}}: WordOfGod is the fact that Fay turned down his marriage proposal just because he didn't seem to have any ambition or drive. It's only once she's dumped him and moved on with someone else that he becomes an ambitious businessman.
* LoveMakesYouEvil: His obsession with Fay causes him to become amonster.
monster, blackmailing her into marrying him and making a living disturbing the eternal rest of people's dead loved ones.
* {{Necromancy}}:To an He discovered his mother's formula for raising the dead into mechanical dolls and he industrialized much nastier level than his mother.the process.
* LoveMakesYouEvil: His obsession with Fay causes him to become a
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* AmbiguouslyBi: Eventually marries and has children, though this is just what's expected of him.
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* ActOfTrueLove: She proves she really loved Jasper when she destroyed the doll his soul was bonded to, no matter how much it hurted her losing him again.
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* GenerationXerox: He fell in love with the daughter of his mother's unrequited love, and like Annabelle before, his use of necromancy ends up hurting the one he claims to love. Unfortunately, he doesn't have an epiphany about it like his mom.
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* UncannyFamilyResemblance: Jasper loves her not only because she's the only one who treats him well, but also because she looks like her grandmother Fay, Jasper's own daughter.
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* AllForNothing: Becomes the richest man in New Albion and gets nothing he actually wants,
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* PyrrhicVictory: Achieves all he could ever want and yet gains nothing.
-->"When you win you sometimes lose and all you love does not love you."
-->"When you win you sometimes lose and all you love does not love you."
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: WordOfGod is the fact that Fay turned down his marriage proposal just because he didn't seem to have any ambition or drive.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Her attempt to resurrect Jasper results in a century or so of horror for New Albion.
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* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Becomes one of these once his necromancy business takes off.
* DisproportionateRetribution: Destroys Sillof utterly once he's rich.
-->"There's a man they call Sillof and he once stole my girl. I want him destroyed, all he has in this world. His business his home and his carriage all crushed. I want him left penniless, face down in the dust."
* DisproportionateRetribution: Destroys Sillof utterly once he's rich.
-->"There's a man they call Sillof and he once stole my girl. I want him destroyed, all he has in this world. His business his home and his carriage all crushed. I want him left penniless, face down in the dust."
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Dewicking Badass Gay per the badass cleanup thread decisions
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* BadassGay: He's confirmed to like men by WordOfGod, and also risks the rioting in the streets (including nearly jumping onto a bonfire) to rescue Jasper.
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* ArrangedMarriage: The narrator says she married, but considering her self seclusion after destroying Jasper and her father's helicopter tendencies, it's possible he married her up.
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* GenerationXerox: Like his grandmother Anabelle, Byron is a lonely individual thanks to daddy issues and seeks solace in the one-sided devotion to the very same doll.
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* MissingMom: The narrator reveals Annabelle died when Edgar was ten.
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Byron's character info on the author's blog confirms he projects on Jasper more as a father figure
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* IncestIsRelative: Byron loves Jasper in a sexual manner. Byron seems to neither know or not care that Jasper is his grandfather's spirit.
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* InspirationalMartyr: [[spoiler:Her willingness to die alongside Jasper has such a profound impact on Soldier 7285 that he not only can't bring himself to shoot, he vows to bring an end to the police state he had been a part of.]]
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* BlackSheep: She is the only [=McAlistair=] to not treat Jasper like a thing to be used for their own emotional needs, instead treating him like a human being with his own desires.
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* Reincarnation: [[spoiler:The New Albion atompunk opera reveals that, after her death, she reincarnates into main characters from each of the sequels.]]
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* Reincarnation: {{Reincarnation}}: [[spoiler:The New Albion atompunk opera reveals that, after her death, she reincarnates into main characters from each of the sequels.]]
* WhiteSheep: She is the only [=McAlistair=] to not treat Jasper like a thing to be used for their own emotional needs, instead treating him like a human being with his own desires.
* WhiteSheep: She is the only [=McAlistair=] to not treat Jasper like a thing to be used for their own emotional needs, instead treating him like a human being with his own desires.
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* BlackSheep: She is the only McAlistair [=McAlistair=] to not treat Jasper like a thing to be used for their own emotional needs, instead treating him like a human being with his own desires.
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* FaceHeelTurn: He starts wanting to impress his ex and eventually blackmails her with her dead father.
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* FaceHeelTurn: He starts wanting to impress his ex and eventually blackmails her with her dead father.father after destroying Sillof financially.
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* IHaveYourWife: Or your father in this case.case; he resurrects Jasper from the dead again and tells Fay she will only be able to speak with him if she marries him.
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* AndNowYouMustMarryMe: A pretty classic example of such.
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A Voodoopunk philosopher and nobleman of New Albion.
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* AndNowYouMustMarryMe: A pretty classic example of such.
He forces Fay to marry him by destroying her actual love interest financially and then promising her she could speak to her dead father if she married him.
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McAlistair
A Voodoopunk philosopher and nobleman of New Albion. He hates his father due to his father forcing his mother to marry him, and so he projects a "safer" father figure onto the clockwork Jasper, becoming obsessed with him. He becomes enamored with the idea of installing Jasper into public office as a means of facilitating anarchy.
! Byron
A Voodoopunk philosopher and nobleman of New Albion. He hates his father due to his father forcing his mother to marry him, and so he projects a "safer" father figure onto the clockwork Jasper, becoming obsessed with him. He becomes enamored with the idea of installing Jasper into public office as a means of facilitating anarchy.
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* BadassGay: Searches the rioting streets for his dear Jasper and rescues him. Also likes men.
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* BadassGay: Searches He's confirmed to like men by WordOfGod, and also risks the rioting in the streets for his dear Jasper and rescues him. Also likes men.(including nearly jumping onto a bonfire) to rescue Jasper.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: His obsession with Jasper and the voodoopunks' political movement renders him oblivious to Amelia's desperate need for emotional support.
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The final McAlistair child. She takes care of Jasper while they play cards, in hiding from the oppressive anti-doll regime instituted in New Albion. She is the only McAlistair to communicate with Jasper and connect to him as a person.
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* BlackSheep: She is the only McAlistair to not treat Jasper like a thing to be used for their own emotional needs, instead treating him like a human being with his own desires.
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:She doesn't have the means to grant Jasper's wish for death herself, so she calls the police on them--leading to her getting killed along with Jasper.]]
* Reincarnation: [[spoiler:The New Albion atompunk opera reveals that, after her death, she reincarnates into main characters from each of the sequels.]]
The final McAlistair child. She takes care of Jasper while they play cards, in hiding from the oppressive anti-doll regime instituted in New Albion. She is the only McAlistair to communicate with Jasper and connect to him as a person.
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* BlackSheep: She is the only McAlistair to not treat Jasper like a thing to be used for their own emotional needs, instead treating him like a human being with his own desires.
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:She doesn't have the means to grant Jasper's wish for death herself, so she calls the police on them--leading to her getting killed along with Jasper.]]
* Reincarnation: [[spoiler:The New Albion atompunk opera reveals that, after her death, she reincarnates into main characters from each of the sequels.]]
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** StalkerWithoutACrush: Averted with his daughter and great-granddaughter, who just love him as you'd expect family to.
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* BadassGay: Searches the rioting streets for his deer Jasper and rescues him. Also likes men.
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* InnocentlyInsensitive: His obsession with Jasper and the voodoopunks' political movement renders him oblivious to Amelia's desperate need for emotional support.
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* {{Necromancy}}: A mad science variant that binds spirits to dolls.
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* FaceHeelTurn: He starts wanting to impress his ex and eventually blackmails her with her dead father.
* GreenEyedMonster: Determined to get Fay back from Sillof.
* IHaveYourWife: Or your father in this case.
* LoveMakesYouEvil: His obsession with Fay causes him to become a monster.
* {{Necromancy}}: To an industrialized much nastier level than his mother.
* AndNowYouMustMarryMe: A pretty classic example of such.
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A Voodoopunk philosopher and nobleman of New Albion.
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* GreenEyedMonster: Determined to get Fay back from Sillof.
* IHaveYourWife: Or your father in this case.
* LoveMakesYouEvil: His obsession with Fay causes him to become a monster.
* {{Necromancy}}: To an industrialized much nastier level than his mother.
* AndNowYouMustMarryMe: A pretty classic example of such.
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A Voodoopunk philosopher and nobleman of New Albion.
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* GoneHorriblyWrong: His attempts to get social acceptance for Dolls only adds fuel to the resentment the public is already feeling for them.
* {{Goth}}: The 19th century romantic poet equivalent.
* {{Goth}}: The 19th century romantic poet equivalent.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Triggers the riot that kills all the Dolls in New Albion but Jasper.
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A Voodoopunk philosopher and nobleman of New Albion.
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* BadassGay: Searches the rioting streets for his deer Jasper and rescues him. Also likes men.
* HollywoodVoodoo: Voodoopunks attempt to humanize and communicate with the Dolls.
A Voodoopunk philosopher and nobleman of New Albion.
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* BadassGay: Searches the rioting streets for his deer Jasper and rescues him. Also likes men.
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A young MadScientist who wants to bring back her UnrequitedLove.
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* IJustWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Annabelle allows Jasper to go because she realizes he's miserable.
* MadScientist: She is able to bring back the dead with her science.
* StalkerWithACrush: She and Jasper went on one date where she fell hopelessly, madly, in love with him while he was apparently bored.
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A young man brought back from the dead twice to a cursed half-life.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Jasper's wish to finally die is granted [[spoiler: at the cost of his great granddaughter's life.]]
* CameBackWrong: Pretty much his entire story arc as all dolls find their return to life excruciating.
* IncestIsRelative: Byron loves Jasper in a sexual manner. Byron seems to neither know or not care that Jasper is his grandfather's spirit.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: Much of his existence is suffering due to the fact he is unable to do much of anything as a doll.
* StalkerWithACrush: Attracts these like flies to a pig. Annabelle and Byron all have strong feelings for his undead half-life.
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am I supposed to make a meme to see the characters?? I'm so confused wot in tarnation is happenin
