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** [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor Amane and Remiel]] genuinely do love humanity as a wholesale, and want nothing but the best of it - their emphasis on empathy is something even the other angels don't quite ''get,'' but siding with them builds a world where all humans are truly cared for as a wholesale and redeemed than outright purged.
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** [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor Amane and Remiel]] genuinely do love humanity as a wholesale, and want nothing but the best of it - their emphasis on empathy is something even the other angels don't quite ''get,'' ''[[BlueAndOrangeMorality get]],'' but siding with them builds a world where all humans are truly cared for as a wholesale and redeemed than outright purged.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
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* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
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* TheHeavy: Out of all the games that focus on the OrderVersusChaos conflict, Law very regularly ends up instigating much of said conflict through either orders on high from YHVH to obliterate human civilization or just generally destroying the world to birth something new. Frankly, it'd be easier to list the games where Law ''wasn't'' the source of the apocalypse.
* HypocrisyNod: ...while they are very much not above very aggressive means to ensure a stable world, they always hold themselves to their own word: they will say exactly what they say they believe, and if they aren't consistent, they will subject themselves to their own standards to correct on that.
* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
* IGaveMyWord: Arguably one of their most positive traits is that they always do exactly as they state themselves as; if they gave their word that they would let somebody go, they damn well uphold their word. Them [[ILied not doing this]] is a sign something is ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness very]]'' [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness wrong as a wholesale]].
* {{Irony}}: Despite being the faction of "law and order," they stand out by having some ''very'' odd quirks as a wholesale:
** They are actually the more inherently egalitarian between itself and Chaos. Chaos, despite being the "free" faction, merely means in extremes "freedom from accountability and the strong ruling as tyrants forever over the weak" - to the point that fascism is confirmed as a Dark-Chaos ideal as a wholesale from the first game. Law, meanwhile, only devolves to authoritarianism in Dark-aligned equivalents, while Light-Law seeks to abolish the structure between authority and subjects in an even socialist commune.
** Amusingly, despite being with the most trappings akin to Catholicism, Law is actually the most advocating for socialist thought as a wholesale - they believe in total equality and no discrimination, and any use of said socialist tenets from Chaos are [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV incidental at best]] and merely a means to an end to sow discord. Anyone at all familiar with how much real-life Catholics and socialists hated each other would likely find this fact hilarious.
** Again, in spite of being the faction of order, they are the most prone to outright rebelling against their faction head if they go a step too far for even them; after all, if they aren't going by their own standards, then they too need to fall. This reaches it's logical conclusion with Ronaldo in ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'', a Lawfully-minded protagonist who outright leads the ''LaResistance'' of that game. Meanwhile, Chaos never had anyone necessarily disobey Lucifer's way, though certainly most likely [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority not without trying]].
* HypocrisyNod: ...while they are very much not above very aggressive means to ensure a stable world, they always hold themselves to their own word: they will say exactly what they say they believe, and if they aren't consistent, they will subject themselves to their own standards to correct on that.
* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
* IGaveMyWord: Arguably one of their most positive traits is that they always do exactly as they state themselves as; if they gave their word that they would let somebody go, they damn well uphold their word. Them [[ILied not doing this]] is a sign something is ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness very]]'' [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness wrong as a wholesale]].
* {{Irony}}: Despite being the faction of "law and order," they stand out by having some ''very'' odd quirks as a wholesale:
** They are actually the more inherently egalitarian between itself and Chaos. Chaos, despite being the "free" faction, merely means in extremes "freedom from accountability and the strong ruling as tyrants forever over the weak" - to the point that fascism is confirmed as a Dark-Chaos ideal as a wholesale from the first game. Law, meanwhile, only devolves to authoritarianism in Dark-aligned equivalents, while Light-Law seeks to abolish the structure between authority and subjects in an even socialist commune.
** Amusingly, despite being with the most trappings akin to Catholicism, Law is actually the most advocating for socialist thought as a wholesale - they believe in total equality and no discrimination, and any use of said socialist tenets from Chaos are [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV incidental at best]] and merely a means to an end to sow discord. Anyone at all familiar with how much real-life Catholics and socialists hated each other would likely find this fact hilarious.
** Again, in spite of being the faction of order, they are the most prone to outright rebelling against their faction head if they go a step too far for even them; after all, if they aren't going by their own standards, then they too need to fall. This reaches it's logical conclusion with Ronaldo in ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'', a Lawfully-minded protagonist who outright leads the ''LaResistance'' of that game. Meanwhile, Chaos never had anyone necessarily disobey Lucifer's way, though certainly most likely [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority not without trying]].
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* {{Irony}}: Despite being the faction of "law and order," they stand out by having some ''very'' odd quirks as a wholesale:
** They are actually the more inherently egalitarian between itself and Chaos. Chaos, despite being the "free" faction, merely means in extremes "freedom from accountability and the strong ruling as tyrants forever over the weak" - to the point that fascism is confirmed as a Dark-Chaos ideal as a wholesale from the first game. Law, meanwhile, only devolves to authoritarianism in Dark-aligned equivalents, while Light-Law seeks to abolish the structure between authority and subjects in an even socialist commune.
** Amusingly, despite being with the most trappings akin to Catholicism, Law is actually the most advocating for socialist thought as a wholesale - they believe in total equality and no discrimination, and any use of said socialist tenets from Chaos are [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV incidental at best]] and merely a means to an end to sow discord. Anyone at all familiar with how much real-life Catholics and socialists hated each other would likely find this fact hilarious.
** Again, in spite of being the faction of order, they are the most prone to outright rebelling against their faction head if they go a step too far for even them; after all, if they aren't going by their own standards, then they too need to fall. This reaches it's logical conclusion with Ronaldo in ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'', a Lawfully-minded protagonist who outright leads the ''LaResistance'' of that game. Meanwhile, Chaos never had anyone necessarily disobey Lucifer's way, though certainly most likely [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority not without trying]].
* IGaveMyWord: Arguably one of their most positive traits is that they always do exactly as they state themselves as; if they gave their word that they would let somebody go, they damn well uphold their word. Them [[ILied not doing this]] is a sign something is ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness very]]'' [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness wrong as a wholesale]].
* TheHeavy: Out of all the games that focus on the OrderVersusChaos conflict, Law very regularly ends up instigating much of said conflict through either orders on high from YHVH to obliterate human civilization or just generally destroying the world to birth something new. Frankly, it'd be easier to list the games where Law ''wasn't'' the source of the apocalypse.
* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
* HypocrisyNod: ...while they are very much not above very aggressive means to ensure a stable world, they always hold themselves to their own word: they will say exactly what they say they believe, and if they aren't consistent, they will subject themselves to their own standards to correct on that.
** They are actually the more inherently egalitarian between itself and Chaos. Chaos, despite being the "free" faction, merely means in extremes "freedom from accountability and the strong ruling as tyrants forever over the weak" - to the point that fascism is confirmed as a Dark-Chaos ideal as a wholesale from the first game. Law, meanwhile, only devolves to authoritarianism in Dark-aligned equivalents, while Light-Law seeks to abolish the structure between authority and subjects in an even socialist commune.
** Amusingly, despite being with the most trappings akin to Catholicism, Law is actually the most advocating for socialist thought as a wholesale - they believe in total equality and no discrimination, and any use of said socialist tenets from Chaos are [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV incidental at best]] and merely a means to an end to sow discord. Anyone at all familiar with how much real-life Catholics and socialists hated each other would likely find this fact hilarious.
** Again, in spite of being the faction of order, they are the most prone to outright rebelling against their faction head if they go a step too far for even them; after all, if they aren't going by their own standards, then they too need to fall. This reaches it's logical conclusion with Ronaldo in ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'', a Lawfully-minded protagonist who outright leads the ''LaResistance'' of that game. Meanwhile, Chaos never had anyone necessarily disobey Lucifer's way, though certainly most likely [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority not without trying]].
* IGaveMyWord: Arguably one of their most positive traits is that they always do exactly as they state themselves as; if they gave their word that they would let somebody go, they damn well uphold their word. Them [[ILied not doing this]] is a sign something is ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness very]]'' [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness wrong as a wholesale]].
* TheHeavy: Out of all the games that focus on the OrderVersusChaos conflict, Law very regularly ends up instigating much of said conflict through either orders on high from YHVH to obliterate human civilization or just generally destroying the world to birth something new. Frankly, it'd be easier to list the games where Law ''wasn't'' the source of the apocalypse.
* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
* HypocrisyNod: ...while they are very much not above very aggressive means to ensure a stable world, they always hold themselves to their own word: they will say exactly what they say they believe, and if they aren't consistent, they will subject themselves to their own standards to correct on that.
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* {{Irony}}: Despite being the faction of "law and order," they stand out by having some ''very'' odd quirks as a wholesale:
** They are actually the more inherently egalitarian between itself and Chaos. Chaos, despite being the "free" faction, merely means in extremes "freedom from accountability and the strong ruling as tyrants forever over the weak" -MoralSociopathy: Their [[PlanetOfHats big hat]]. Law paradoxically is both highly empathetic to the point that fascism weak and helpless and seek to give aid to those in need... but is confirmed as a Dark-Chaos ideal as a wholesale from more than willing to commit horrible atrocities in the first game. Law, meanwhile, only devolves to authoritarianism in Dark-aligned equivalents, while Light-Law seeks to abolish the structure between authority and subjects in an even socialist commune.
** Amusingly, despite being withname of said utopia. They both advocate for the most trappings akin to Catholicism, Law is actually the most advocating for socialist thought moral option as a wholesale - wholesale, but have [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no qualms with discarding those they believe in total equality and see have no discrimination, and any further use of said socialist tenets from Chaos are [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV incidental at best]] and merely a means to an end to sow discord. Anyone at all familiar with how much real-life Catholics and socialists hated each other would likely find this fact hilarious.
** Again, in spite of being the faction of order, they are the most prone to outright rebelling againsttheir faction head if they go a step too far for plans]]. This is frequently called out even them; after all, if they aren't going by their own standards, then they too need to fall. This reaches it's logical conclusion with Ronaldo in ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'', a Lawfully-minded protagonist who outright leads the ''LaResistance'' of that game. Meanwhile, Chaos never had anyone necessarily disobey Lucifer's way, though certainly most likely [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority not without trying]].
* IGaveMyWord: Arguably one of their most positive traits is that they always do exactly as they state themselves as; if they gave their word that they would let somebody go, they damn well uphold their word. Them [[ILied not doing this]] is a sign something is ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness very]]'' [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness wrong as a wholesale]].
* TheHeavy: Out of all the games that focus on the OrderVersusChaos conflict, Law very regularly ends up instigating much of said conflict through either orders on high from YHVH to obliterate human civilization or justLaw-aligned route, and generally destroying the world to birth something new. Frankly, it'd be easier to list the games where Law ''wasn't'' the source speaking, many of the apocalypse.
* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
* HypocrisyNod: ...while they are very much not above very aggressive means to ensure a stable world, they always hold themselves to their own word: they will say exactly what they say they believe, and if they aren't consistent, they will subject themselves to their own standards to correct on that.more sympathetic portrayals of the alignment play up the 'moral' part than the 'sociopath' part.
** They are actually the more inherently egalitarian between itself and Chaos. Chaos, despite being the "free" faction, merely means in extremes "freedom from accountability and the strong ruling as tyrants forever over the weak" -
** Amusingly, despite being with
** Again, in spite of being the faction of order, they are the most prone to outright rebelling against
* IGaveMyWord: Arguably one of their most positive traits is that they always do exactly as they state themselves as; if they gave their word that they would let somebody go, they damn well uphold their word. Them [[ILied not doing this]] is a sign something is ''[[OOCIsSeriousBusiness very]]'' [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness wrong as a wholesale]].
* TheHeavy: Out of all the games that focus on the OrderVersusChaos conflict, Law very regularly ends up instigating much of said conflict through either orders on high from YHVH to obliterate human civilization or just
* {{Hypocrite}}: They believe in stopping violence wherever possible. Their answer? [[StartXToStopX More violence to stop said violence]]. [[ZigZaggedTrope However]]...
* HypocrisyNod: ...while they are very much not above very aggressive means to ensure a stable world, they always hold themselves to their own word: they will say exactly what they say they believe, and if they aren't consistent, they will subject themselves to their own standards to correct on that.
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* MoralSociopathy: Their [[PlanetOfHats big hat]]. Law paradoxically is both highly empathetic to the weak and helpless and seek to give aid to those in need... but is more than willing to commit horrible atrocities in the name of said utopia. They both advocate for the most moral option as a wholesale, but have [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no qualms with discarding those they see have no further use to their plans]]. This is frequently called out even in a Law-aligned route, and generally speaking, many of the more sympathetic portrayals of the alignment play up the 'moral' part than the 'sociopath' part.
* OrderVersusChaos: On the lawful side, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin natch]].
* OrderVersusChaos: On the lawful side, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin natch]].
* OrderVersusChaos: On the lawful side, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin natch]].
* TheSpock: Tends towards ideals of stoicism, logic and overcoming instinctual desires of the three alignments. Lawfully-aligned protagonists are often noted as nice and polite, but tend to become increasingly more emotionless the further they get into the alignment. Contrast this with Neutral as TheKirk and Chaos as TheMcCoy.
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* TheSpock: Tends towards ideals of stoicism, logic and overcoming instinctual desires of the three alignments. Lawfully-aligned protagonists are often noted as nice and polite, but tend to become increasingly more emotionless the further they get into the alignment. Contrast this with Neutral as TheKirk and Chaos as TheMcCoy.
* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: They are willing to do anything for their ideal Millennium Kingdom, no matter how many atrocities they have to commit.
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* UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans: They are willing to do anything for their ideal Millennium Kingdom, no matter how many atrocities they have to commit.
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* ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve: YHVH claims in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' about how the Great Will will keep bringing him back as long as humanity continues to believe in his salvation.
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* GodsNeedPrayerBadly: YHVH claims in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' about how the Great Will will keep bringing him back as long as humanity continues to believe in his salvation.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} (here, [[Characters/ShinMegamiTenseiLucifer Lucifer]]) as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons Divinely Appearing Demon]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations of false salvation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} (here, [[Characters/ShinMegamiTenseiLucifer Lucifer]]) as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons Divinely Appearing Demon]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations of false salvation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} (here, [[ShinMegamiTenseiLucifer Lucifer]]) as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons Divinely Appearing Demon]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations of false salvation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} (here, [[ShinMegamiTenseiLucifer [[Characters/ShinMegamiTenseiLucifer Lucifer]]) as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons Divinely Appearing Demon]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations of false salvation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} is a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons Divinely Appearing Demon]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations of false salvation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} is (here, [[ShinMegamiTenseiLucifer Lucifer]]) as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons Divinely Appearing Demon]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations of false salvation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' lengths needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} as is a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] Divinely Appearing Demon]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].temptations of false salvation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], needed, ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention [[TheSocialDarwinist to their ethics, ethics]], as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} was a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], given how the Bible's depiction of {{Satan}} was as a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[FridgeBrilliance Which only makes sense]], [[ShownTheirWork given how the Bible's depiction]] of {{Satan}} was a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptation]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[FridgeBrilliance [[ShownTheirWork Which only makes sense]], [[ShownTheirWork given how the Bible's depiction]] depiction of {{Satan}} was a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptation]].temptations]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' lengths needed. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. Which only makes sense.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood ''[[KnightTemplar Any]]'' [[KnightTemplar lengths needed.needed]], ranging from [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashing]], to [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill totalitarianism]], to [[FinalSolution outright genocide]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[FridgeBrilliance Which only makes sense.sense]], [[ShownTheirWork given how the Bible's depiction]] of {{Satan}} was a BitchInSheepsClothing [[DivinelyAppearingDemons demon of light]] [[LightIsNotGood who would lead humanity astray with his temptation]].
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Chained Sinkholes.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill lengths]] [[FinalSolution needed]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only]] [[{{Satan}} makes sense]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill lengths]] [[FinalSolution needed]].lengths needed. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only]] [[{{Satan}} only makes sense]].sense.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' lengths needed. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only]] [[{{Satan}} makes sense]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' lengths needed.[[TheEvilsOfFreeWill lengths]] [[FinalSolution needed]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only]] [[{{Satan}} makes sense]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' lengths needed. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. Which only makes sense.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' lengths needed. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only only]] [[{{Satan}} makes sense.sense]].
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Chained Sinkholes.
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** They do something none of the other alignments do: hold themselves to their own standards in the event of something going wrong. While Chaos pretty regularly has outright MoralMyopia relative to Lucifer's defeat in the past to YHVH and outright hypocrisy regarding its definitions of freedom, and Neutral never tends to being a permanent solution ([[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse most of the time]]), YHVH on no less than ''[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII three]]'' [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiNINE separate]] [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney occassions]] is gutted by Lawful forces for going a branch [[EvenEvilHasStandards even they would consider monstrous and unnecessary on the wholesale]]. One of the best endings in Law's history happens because an agent of God, Zelenin, is persuaded to turn back on His vision once she learns of the ruin it would cause, and follow a path closer to that of a Light-Law vision as a wholesale. Even in instances where God's vision is fulfilled, those who set their own rules are expected to follow it to the letter: Merkabah and Flynn let themselves be consumed by the Tokyo Perpetual Reactor in ''IV'' because of being tainted by the "Unclean Ones".
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** They do something none of the other alignments do: hold themselves to their own standards in the event of something going wrong. While Chaos pretty regularly has outright MoralMyopia relative to Lucifer's defeat in the past to YHVH and outright hypocrisy regarding its definitions of freedom, and Neutral never tends to being a permanent solution ([[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse most of the time]]), YHVH on no less than ''[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII three]]'' [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiNINE separate]] [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney occassions]] three separate occassions (VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII, VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiNINE, and VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney) is gutted by Lawful forces for going a branch [[EvenEvilHasStandards even they would consider monstrous and unnecessary on the wholesale]]. One of the best endings in Law's history happens because an agent of God, Zelenin, is persuaded to turn back on His vision once she learns of the ruin it would cause, and follow a path closer to that of a Light-Law vision as a wholesale. Even in instances where God's vision is fulfilled, those who set their own rules are expected to follow it to the letter: Merkabah and Flynn let themselves be consumed by the Tokyo Perpetual Reactor in ''IV'' because of being tainted by the "Unclean Ones".
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill lengths]] [[KillEmAll needed]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which]] [[{{Satan}} only]] [[AWolfInSheepsClothing makes]] [[DivinelyAppearingDemons sense]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill lengths]] [[KillEmAll needed]].lengths needed. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which]] [[{{Satan}} only]] [[AWolfInSheepsClothing makes]] [[DivinelyAppearingDemons sense]].Which only makes sense.
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill lengths]] [[KillEmAll needed]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only]] [[{{Satan}} makes sense]].
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: They firmly believe in equality, helping the weak and a society where suffering is given meaning, but are willing to go to any lengths needed to achieve such a world. ''[[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood Any]]'' [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill lengths]] [[KillEmAll needed]]. Ironically, this helps to make Chaos look like the more appealing option to those who don't pay attention to their ethics, as Law so forcibly delivers its message with the force of a sledgehammer that it almost makes Lucifer look more tempting by comparison. [[ShownTheirWork Which only]] Which]] [[{{Satan}} makes only]] [[AWolfInSheepsClothing makes]] [[DivinelyAppearingDemons sense]].
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* DarkIsEvil: [[spoiler:Both in ''Strange Journey'', where his appearance is darker than most Angels and even has black wings, while he is still a Herald and is Light-aligned.]]
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* DarkIsEvil: [[spoiler:Both in [In ''Strange Journey'', where his appearance is darker than most Angels and even has black wings, while he is still a Herald and is Light-aligned.]]
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* HateSink: In ''Strange Journey''. While he may be a typical Law representative at first, [[spoiler:once you get to his Villainous Breakdown, it's clear that he's supposed to be hated.]]
* ItAmusedMe: The reason why he started a [[spoiler: fake fight in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' against the Samurai in Midtown, while talking about cooking them.]]
* ItsAllAboutMe: ''Strange Journey'' has the Chaos route reveal that [[spoiler:he only cares about advancing his own personal power/status, and doesn't give a damn about humanity or the Wise Men's desire for a "Kingdom of Heaven".]]
* ItAmusedMe: The reason why he started a [[spoiler: fake fight in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' against the Samurai in Midtown, while talking about cooking them.]]
* ItsAllAboutMe: ''Strange Journey'' has the Chaos route reveal that [[spoiler:he only cares about advancing his own personal power/status, and doesn't give a damn about humanity or the Wise Men's desire for a "Kingdom of Heaven".]]
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* HateSink: In ''Strange Journey''. While he may be a typical Law representative at first, [[spoiler:once you get to his Villainous Breakdown, it's clear that he's supposed to be hated.]]
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* ItAmusedMe: The reason why he started a [[spoiler: fake fight in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' against the Samurai in Midtown, while talking about cookingthem.]]
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* ItsAllAboutMe: ''Strange Journey'' has the Chaos route reveal that [[spoiler:he only cares about advancing his own personal power/status, and doesn't give a damn about humanity or the Wise Men's desire for a "Kingdom ofHeaven".]]Heaven"]].
* ItAmusedMe: The reason why he started a [[spoiler: fake fight in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' against the Samurai in Midtown, while talking about cooking
* ItsAllAboutMe: ''Strange Journey'' has the Chaos route reveal that [[spoiler:he only cares about advancing his own personal power/status, and doesn't give a damn about humanity or the Wise Men's desire for a "Kingdom of
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%%* KnightTemplar: He ''is'' on the side of Law, after all. [[spoiler:Though he's no longer this in ''IV''.]] (No longer what?)
* ManipulativeBastard: Considering he's named after [[spoiler: the angel of HOSTILITY,]] consider this a non-surprise for people who looked up the name on Website/ThatOtherWiki.
* ManipulativeBastard: Considering he's named after [[spoiler: the angel of HOSTILITY,]] consider this a non-surprise for people who looked up the name on Website/ThatOtherWiki.
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%%* PaperThinDisguise: His identity as [[spoiler:M]] is one. (How is it paper-thin?)
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: In ''Strange Journey's'' [[spoiler: Neutral route he decides to cut his losses and make a break for it, instead of fighting you.]]
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: In ''Strange Journey's'' [[spoiler: Neutral route he decides to cut his losses and make a break for it, instead of fighting you.]]
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* VillainousBreakdown: In ''Strange Journey'' Chaos route [[spoiler:he completely loses it and tries to kill the protagonist himself, ranting about how humans live only to be pawns and cursing the protagonist for his actions.]]
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* VillainousBreakdown: In ''Strange Journey'' Chaos route [[spoiler:he completely loses it and tries to kill the protagonist himself, ranting about how humans live only to be pawns and cursing the protagonist for his actions.]]actions]].
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* ManipulativeBastard: Considering he's named after [[spoiler: the angel of HOSTILITY,]] consider this a non-surprise for people who looked up the name on Wiki/ThatOtherWiki.
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* ManipulativeBastard: Considering he's named after [[spoiler: the angel of HOSTILITY,]] consider this a non-surprise for people who looked up the name on Wiki/ThatOtherWiki.Website/ThatOtherWiki.
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%% As agreed on in the discussion, do not add tropes relating to the Axiom until it is explictly stated to be the same being as The Great Will. The SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute entry is meant to emphasize the fact it's currently impossible to determine their connection or lack thereof.
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%% As agreed on in the discussion, do not add tropes relating to the Axiom until it is explictly stated to be the same being as The the Great Will. The SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute entry is meant to emphasize the fact it's currently impossible to determine their connection or lack thereof.
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The most recurring entity among agents of The Great Will, YHVH is [[{{God}} the Abrahamic God]]. However, he is far from the kindly god you'd expect; instead, most incarnations of this being tend to be selfish, totalitarian tyrant obsessed with forcing warped standards upon the world; often by brutally slaughtering those who oppose him or those he deems unclean and unworthy of his salvation, and/or forcibly converting all mortal life into worshiping him. In extreme cases, the lives of his followers - even his angels - are no more than means to keep himself in power; caring for nothing but himself.
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The most recurring entity among agents of The the Great Will, YHVH is [[{{God}} the Abrahamic God]]. However, he is far from the kindly god you'd expect; instead, most incarnations of this being tend to be selfish, totalitarian tyrant obsessed with forcing warped standards upon the world; often by brutally slaughtering those who oppose him or those he deems unclean and unworthy of his salvation, and/or forcibly converting all mortal life into worshiping him. In extreme cases, the lives of his followers - even his angels - are no more than means to keep himself in power; caring for nothing but himself.
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* GodInHumanForm: He was one of YHVH's Godlys' in ''Shin Megami Tensei IV''.
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* GodInHumanForm: He was one of YHVH's Godlys' Godly Spirits in ''Shin Megami Tensei IV''.
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* TheGhost: A core being in the whole SMT multiverse, yet it never makes direct appearances and is instead generally described through second-hand information from various sources [[UnreliableExpositor with various levels of bias]]. The closest it has been to making an appearance are a few lines spoken at the end of ''Nocturne'' which are implied to come from the Great Will. Whether it even ''has'' a physical appearance is dubious; if it's like the Abrahamic God it's based on, it's more like an [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm incomprehensible omnipresent force]] without a form which can be perceived by mortals and thus only appears through avatars and manifestations (in this case, YHVH is the most prominent one).
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* TheGhost: A core being in the whole SMT multiverse, yet it never makes direct appearances and is instead generally described through second-hand information from various sources [[UnreliableExpositor with various levels of bias]]. The closest it has been to making an appearance are a is the few lines spoken at in the end True Demon ending of ''Nocturne'' which are implied to come might be from the Great Will. Whether it even ''has'' a physical appearance is dubious; if it's like the Abrahamic God it's based on, it's more like an [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm incomprehensible omnipresent force]] without a form which can be perceived by mortals and thus only appears through avatars and manifestations comparatively lesser agents (in this case, YHVH is the most prominent one).
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* GreaterScopeVillain: The Great Will is [[TheGhost never encountered in person]], being closer to a disembodied will of reality itself. That said, it is still ultimately responsible for the systems leading to suffering in story after story, such as human thought and belief giving birth to gods and demons that then seek to oppress or compete with them; or the existence of "thrones" which allow imperfect beings to shape and rule over universes in almost any way they see fit.
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* GreaterScopeVillain: The Great Will is [[TheGhost never encountered in person]], being closer to a disembodied will of reality itself. That said, it is still ultimately responsible for the systems leading to suffering in story after story, such as human thought and belief giving birth to gods and demons that who then seek to oppress or compete with them; or the existence of "thrones" which allow imperfect beings to shape and rule over universes in almost any way they see fit.
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* PowersThatBe: According to its avatars in ''Megami Tensei II'' and ''Last Bible'', the Great Will is what forms TheMultiverse itself and its design. Any form with which it manifests is merely [[FightingAShadow an avatar]] born from its systems, which can be reborn from those same systems. The UpdatedRerelease of ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' further claims literally ''everything'' is an extension of Great Will. In at least ''Last Bible'' and ''Nocturne'' continuities, even destroying and recreating universes are part of its systems while it is implied the smaller scale EternalRecurrence occuring in worlds such as ''Strange Journey'' is also part of an even grander system. To hope to even subvert Great Will's systems is to change how reality itself operates, and even then, it will still be that reality.
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* PowersThatBe: According to its avatars in ''Megami Tensei II'' and ''Last Bible'', the Great Will is what forms TheMultiverse itself and its design. Any form with which it manifests is merely [[FightingAShadow an avatar]] a living manifestation]] born from its systems, which can be reborn from those same systems. The UpdatedRerelease of ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' further claims literally ''everything'' is an extension of Great Will. In at least ''Last Bible'' and ''Nocturne'' continuities, even destroying and recreating universes are part of its systems while it is implied the smaller scale EternalRecurrence occuring in worlds such as ''Strange Journey'' is also part of an even grander system. To hope to even subvert Great Will's systems is to change how reality itself operates, and even then, it will still be that reality.
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* WideEyedIdealist: It's implied in ''Nocturne'' that it used to be one. If no Reasons are chosen, Kagutsuchi will admonish the Demi-Fiend for choosing to create a "world of freedom"; in which people can make their own choices and choose their own fates... a world which, according to Kagutsuchi, ''the Great Will apparently chose before''.
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* ArchangelGabriel: As the most prominent angel in the Bible (unless you count Satan), Gabriel often has a prominent role whenever plot-relevant, and accordingly has a fairly [[DependingOnTheWriter fluctuative characterization]]. Gabriel is initially depicted as a masculine angel in the earlier games (notably as late as ''Shin Megami Tensei I'') but from ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' onward Gabriel is depicted as a [[{{GenderFlip}} woman]] instead, referencing some of Gabriel's real life art works.
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* ArchangelGabriel: As the most prominent angel in the Bible (unless you count Satan), Gabriel often has a prominent role whenever plot-relevant, and accordingly has a fairly [[DependingOnTheWriter fluctuative characterization]]. Gabriel is initially depicted as a masculine angel in the earlier games (notably as late as ''Shin Megami Tensei I'') but from ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' onward Gabriel is depicted as a [[{{GenderFlip}} [[GenderFlip woman]] instead, referencing some of Gabriel's real life art works.
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* GenderFlip: Gabriel used to be a man like her real life counterpart but from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' onwards she has been represented as a woman.
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* GenderFlip: Gabriel used to be a man like her real life Biblical counterpart but from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' onwards she has been represented as a woman.
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** In ''VideoGame/DigitalDevilSaga 2'', after the events of Sera's awakening, [[SummonBiggerFish a Karma Facility scientist released four Seraph based Atma demons, hoping to stop the turmoil and chaos]]. Should Gale be able to successfully interrogate the scientist, he will reveal the presence of the Seraphs, unlocking the option to challenge Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel at different locations. Once the party have defeated all three, Michael joins them and they will await the party in the ground area of the Occupied Sector, where the Sun shines down. The player must then defeat the first three Seraphs again ([[BossRush in a row this time]]). Upon their defeat, Michael fights the party; he calls them 'fools' for ignoring the Great Will, and asks God to give him power to destroy the party's ignorance and sins.
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** In ''VideoGame/DigitalDevilSaga 2'', after the events of Sera's awakening, [[SummonBiggerFish a Karma Facility scientist released four Seraph based Atma demons, hoping to stop the turmoil and chaos]]. Should Gale be able to successfully interrogate the scientist, he will reveal the presence of the Seraphs, unlocking the option to challenge Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel at different locations. Once the party have defeated all three, Michael joins them and they will await the party in the ground area of the Occupied Sector, where the Sun shines down. The player must then defeat the first three Seraphs again ([[BossRush in a row this time]]). Upon their defeat, Michael fights the party; he calls them 'fools' for ignoring the Great Will, and asks God to give him power to destroy the party's ignorance and sins.party.
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* AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: Satan is usually rendered as larger than many other demons in the same game, notably in ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' and in ''Digital Devil Saga''. Taken UpToEleven in ''Shin Megami Tensei IMAGINE'' where he is ''absolutely colossal'' in 3D. After defeating this body he does transport you to a new dimension where he is much smaller.
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* AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: Satan is usually rendered as larger than many other demons in the same game, notably in ''Shin Megami Tensei II'' and in ''Digital Devil Saga''. Taken UpToEleven in In ''Shin Megami Tensei IMAGINE'' where IMAGINE'', he is ''absolutely colossal'' in 3D. After defeating this body he does transport you to a new dimension where he is much smaller.
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%%* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: In ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor: Overclocked'' he flees [[spoiler:when the Overlord awakens to his power as King of Bel and freely summons minor demons and resurrects two ''Bels'' to attack him; he wisely chooses to flee for the moment. Like the rest of the Angels he also abandons humanity in Yuzu's 8th Day as well]]. (Move this to his section in ''Characters/DevilSurvivor'')
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* LightIsNotGood: Metatron rarely ever appears in a non-villainous capacity, except in arguably ''Nocturne'' where he serves the Great Will this time around and doesn't want the Demi-Fiend to lose his humanity, and in most of ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'' where Metatron is the lone high ranking Herald that isn't in it for Law's goals and just serves his master no matter what he does at the time [[spoiler:though even then, he leaves you with a warning not to deliberately cross the heavens or they will kill you for your betrayal]]. [[spoiler:Naoya's 8th Day]] from ''[[UpdatedRerelease Devil Surivor: Overclocked]]'' [[spoiler:has him snap back to his normal actions, ordering humanity to hunt you down and kill you. Those that don't agree to do this are killed by the Angels. Depending on your choices, this could backfire on him]].
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* LightIsNotGood: Metatron rarely ever appears in a non-villainous capacity, except in arguably ''Nocturne'' where he serves claims to serve the Great Will this time around and doesn't want warn the Demi-Fiend to lose against meeting Lucifer and shedding his humanity, and in most of ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'' where Metatron is the lone high ranking Herald that isn't in it for Law's goals and just serves his master no matter what he does at the time [[spoiler:though even then, he leaves you with a warning not to deliberately cross the heavens or they will kill you for your betrayal]]. [[spoiler:Naoya's 8th Day]] from ''[[UpdatedRerelease Devil Surivor: Overclocked]]'' [[spoiler:has him snap back to his normal actions, ordering humanity to hunt you down and kill you. Those that don't agree to do this are killed by the Angels. Depending on your choices, this could backfire on him]].
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%%* MythologyGag: In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', the door leading to his sidequest in Grus in the first playthrough is blocked by a Power, who says the voice of God commanded him to stand guard before the door. In NewGamePlus, it's Metatron himself in his guise as a Strike Team member who's at the door. (Move this to his section in ''Characters/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney''
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* SelfDuplication: Proves capable of this in a few of his appearances, most notably in [[spoiler:in ''Apocalypse'' in which a horde of him appears as soon as the first singular Metatron is defeated as the third to lass boss]].
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* SelfDuplication: Proves capable of this in a few of his appearances, most notably in [[spoiler:in ''Apocalypse'' in which [[spoiler:''Apocalypse'' where a horde of him appears as soon as the first singular Metatron is defeated as the third to lass last boss]].
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The Great Will is mentioned by Shekinah, and it uses the same kanji as in Nocturne.
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First mentioned in ''VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII'', when the TrueFinalBoss YHVH claims he is only a small part of a great will said to have created and rules over infinite universes. Known as 大いなる意志 (in ''Megami Tensei II'', ''VideoGame/LastBible'', ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' and ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV'') and 大いなる意思 (in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''), the name is localized as "Great Will" in ''Nocturne'' and ''V''.
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First mentioned in ''VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII'', when the TrueFinalBoss YHVH claims he is only a small part of a great will said to have created and rules over infinite universes. Known as 大いなる意志 (in ''Megami Tensei II'', ''VideoGame/LastBible'', ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' and ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV'') and 大いなる意思 (in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''), ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'' and ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney Redux''), the name is localized as "Great Will" in ''Nocturne'' ''Nocturne'', ''Strange Journey Redux'' and ''V''.
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Moving this trope to the SJ's new entry on the YHVH page due to it being unique to SJ's plot as the God of Light is actually shattered into peices instead of the normal link via avatars
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* PiecesOfGod: He represents Lesser YHVH, who is as much a part of YHVH as much as he is his own entity. Particularly emphasized in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', where the weakest piece takes Metatron's form after Alilat is defeated by absorbing the piece guarded by her.
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* PiecesOfGod: In many games he appears in, he acts as a part of YHVH, such as in ''Strange Journey'' where he was the most powerful piece of YHVH.
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Deleting redundancy.
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The most recurring entity among agents of The Great Will, YHVH is [[{{God}} the Abrahamic God]]. However, he is far from the kindly god you'd expect; instead, most incarnations of this being tend to be selfish, totalitarian tyrant obsessed with forcing warped standards upon the world; often by brutally slaughtering those who oppose him or those he deems unclean and unworthy of his salvation, and/or forcibly converting all mortal life into worshiping him. In extreme cases, the lives of his followers - even his angels - are no more than means to keep himself in power; caring for nothing but himself and his power.
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The most recurring entity among agents of The Great Will, YHVH is [[{{God}} the Abrahamic God]]. However, he is far from the kindly god you'd expect; instead, most incarnations of this being tend to be selfish, totalitarian tyrant obsessed with forcing warped standards upon the world; often by brutally slaughtering those who oppose him or those he deems unclean and unworthy of his salvation, and/or forcibly converting all mortal life into worshiping him. In extreme cases, the lives of his followers - even his angels - are no more than means to keep himself in power; caring for nothing but himself and his power.himself.
