History Characters / RedDeadRedemptionWestElizabeth

* VillainHasAPoint: Pretty obviously a villain, who does very, very little to endear himself to either players or in-game characters. However, his [[{{Jerkass}} nasty personality]] can make it easy to forget that ''everyone'' he goes against in both games (with the exception of Jack) really is a criminal entirely guilty of everything Ross accuses them of. Furthermore, his rationalization to clean up TheWildWest is emphasized in [[VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2 the sequel]], even if you put aside the fact that the Van der Lindes murdered [[spoiler:Milton]]. Considering how incredibly depraved some criminals really are (such as the O'Driscolls, Murfree Brood and Skinner Brothers), it's hard to blame someone who is trying to clean up such a violent place as TheWildWest.

* JerkassHasAPoint: ''II'' reveals just how much death, destruction and damage the gang actually caused when they were active... ''especially'' to the law enforcement, U.S army, and Pinkerton detective agency. Even if he later changed his ways, John ''was'' completely willing to cause it back in the day. He's still a dick, but his treatment of John is completely understandable given his hatred of the gang. His ShutUpKirk to [[spoiler:Jack]] at the end of the first game, while assholish, is also [[BrutalHonesty pretty accurate]] all things considered.

* YoungerThanTheyLook: He's 50 by the start of ''1'' and 53 by the epilogue, but looks at least 10 to 20 years older. Possibly justified due to the stresses of his job and living in TheWildWest.

* AntiVillain: Pretty obviously a villain, who does very, very little to endear himself to either players or in-game characters. He's by no means a pleasant person, but his interactions with his family seem to imply that he's not at all the same horrible person to those in his company. Also, his repugnant personality can make it easy to forget that ''everyone'' he goes against in both games (with the exception of Jack) really is a criminal entirely guilty of everything Ross accuses them of. He's entirely genuine about bringing law to the west; it's just that his ruthless methods of doing so and total inability to let things slide [[HeWhoFightsMonsters makes him almost as bad as the criminals he fights]].

* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: During [[spoiler: the epilogue when Jack hunts him down]] we meet his wife and brother who demonstrate that, at least off the job, Ross has a soft side.

* KarmaHoudini: Unlike Ross, Archer faces no repercussions for his actions, as he was not involved in John's death.

[[folder: Harold[=MacDougal=]]]

[[folder:Ross]]

[[folder:Fordham]]

[[folder:Johns]]

[[folder:[=MacDougal=]]]

[[folder:MacDougal]]

* YourSizeMayVery: Is a noticeably short man in the first game, but he's average height in the second game.

* BigGuyLittleGuy: Very tall, taller than John, and over a head taller than the noticeably short Ross.

* AntiVillain: Pretty obviously a villain, who does very, very little to endear himself to either players or in-game characters. He's by no means a pleasant person, but his interactions with his family seem to imply that he's not at all the same horrible person to those in his company.

* JerkassHasAPoint: ''II'' reveals just how much death, destruction and damage the gang actually caused when they were active... ''especially'' to the law enforcement, U.S army, and Pinkerton detective agency. Even if he later changed his ways, John ''was'' completely willing to cause it back in the day. He's still a dick, but his treatment of John is completely understandable given his hatred of the gang.

* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: Between John, and himself, they really aren't. Neither of them can escape their past. John can't escape his past life of crime, while Ross can't his life as a government employee, constantly being pulled back in to work. They even die similarly: Someone of their past catches up to them and pumps them full of lead.]]
* MisplacedRetribution: Downplayed. He doesn't seem to be after the Van Der Linde gang for personal reasons, but [[spoiler:he doesn't seem to know that Abigail killed his former partner, likely assuming that Arthur did it.]]

* PragmaticVillainy: [[spoiler:This is presumably why the Van der Linde Gang members who avert DoomedByCanon by the end of II survive: Due to them being either not notable outlaws whose deaths wouldn't gain him renown (Pearson, Mary-Beth, etc.) or moving far from the US (Sadie, Charles) they're officially NotWorthKilling as far as he's concerned]].

* {{Jerkass}}: While Fordham at least shows gratitude and even respect occasionally towards John and others, Ross is disdainful towards ''everyone'' he runs into - not just John - and considers himself nobler and morally above pretty much the entire West by default. He constantly refers to the people he protects as savages, fools and scum that should be lucky to have his assistance, and is just in general very unlikable. He is even disrespectful to those working for him, like Fordham (who he is constantly putting down) and Nastas (who he refers to as a savage).

* InsultBackfire: [[spoiler: Boy, and it did back. Insulting and threatening Jack Marston, not only angers the man more, but it also leads to Ross’s brutal death.]]

-->'''Voiced by:''' Jim Bentley

* TheGhost: Despite his importance to the game's background, he is never encountered. The closet we get is the stranger mission "American Lobbyist" in Blackwater, where John assists an operative of his.

* AxCrazy: [[spoiler:Gets kicked out of Yale after beating a colleague over the head with a croquet mallet and climbing up to the roof completely naked, in what is described as a "savage" attack, likely after a bad trip.]]

[[folder:Johns]]
!!Nate Johns
->'''Portrayed By:''' N/A

A gubernatorial candidate campaigning in West Elizabeth, and later the commonwealth's governor.

* BlueBlood: Hails from an affluent southern family.
* BreadEggsMilkSquick: Aldous Worthington's accusations against Johns include "corruption and vote-rigging to extortion, kidnapping, and sexual depravity."
* CorruptHick: Southern BlueBlood who's looked down upon by locals like Mrs. Ditkiss for his family being "hillbilly trash" from the antebellum era.
* CorruptPolitician: Transparently so, not above outright buying votes and blackmailing rivals.
* TheGhost: Despite his importance to the game's background, he is never encountered. The closet we get is the stranger mission "American Lobbyist" in Blackwater, where John assists an operative of his.
* GreaterScopeVillain: To Edgar Ross' BigBad. While not personally involved in the mission that Ross sends John on, it's made clear that the local Bureau, under Ross' direction, is tacitly assisting the Johns campaign. As the law and order candidate, it's little surprise that [[GloryHound Ross]] hopes to use Johns' campaign promise in order to make himself look good. Were it not for Johns' campaign, it's conceivable that the events of the game would've played out quite differently.
* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler:Johns' underhanded tactics are ultimately his downfall, and his multiple scandals ensure that his governorship is short-lived.]]
* ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: His motus operandi. He's a scion of a wealthy southern family and just throws money at any problem.
* TheUnfought: Like Sanchez, John never goes after him, though Johns is merely corrupt and not part of Ross' [[spoiler:betrayal and murder of John. This saves him from Jack's wrath several years later.]]

[[folder:MacDougal]]
!!Harold [=MacDougal=]
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[[caption-width-right:300:''"The savage heart cannot be conventionally civilized! I was right all along!"'']]
->'''Voiced by:''' Joe Ochman

A "researcher" of Native Americans, [=MacDougal=] is a perfect representation of science of his time.

* AbsentMindedProfessor: To quote Rick James - [[Series/ChappellesShow Cocaine is a hell of a drug]].
* AxCrazy: [[spoiler:Gets kicked out of Yale after beating a colleague over the head with a croquet mallet and climbing up to the roof completely naked, in what is described as a "savage" attack, likely after a bad trip.]]
* GenreBlind: In Undead Nightmare, he gets about two lines. The first is him stating that he doesn't have a clue of what's going on, and the second is one of the most GenreBlind lines ever said: "I'm just gonna wander down that lonely, deserted street, and get my bag." He even sounds unsure of himself saying it.
* InnocentBigot: Unlike Herbert Moon, who hates practically everybody, [=MacDougal=] is for the most part an UpperClassTwit who believes in [[CriticalResearchFailure crackpot theories and idiotic science]] and doesn't seem to really bear the natives any ill will. He also constantly espouses his WhiteMansBurden beliefs to Nastas, acting what he sees as friendly while denigrating him and natives in general as savages at the core in need of being civilized.
** When the player first meets him, he is apparently comparing blood samples under a microscope. He tells John that those of a Native American seems to be exactly alike in composition to that of a white man, but he seems to be rather pleasantly surprised by the revelation rather than insulted as would be expected by other racists.
** He also seems genuinely saddened by [[spoiler: Nastas' death, and even posts a paragraph in the Blackwater Ledger paying his respects]].
* TheLoad: Does nothing but make more trouble for you.
* ManHug: Gives one to John as he goes back to Yale.
* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: After nearly getting killed, he decides to leave Blackwater, decrying the Wild West as a complete CrapsackWorld and the people, savages and settlers alike, there as just savages who like to shoot each other.
* TheStoner: Almost always tweaked out on cocaine. The rest of the time he's on heroin.

!!Other Residents of West Elizabeth

[[folder:Nastas]]
!!Nastas
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[[caption-width-right:300:''"There is no respect for the land anymore."'']]
->'''Voiced by:''' Benjamin Byron Davis

A local Indian who was hired by Edgar Ross to help John hunt Dutch down.