History Characters / MarvelComicsXMan

* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: To [[Characters/NewMutants Legion]]] as shown in the 2018 ''Uncanny X-Men'' run - while both aren't entirely sane and are immensely powerful {{Reality Warper}}s with a basis in PsychicPowers, Nate is implied to be the stronger. Not only that, but he has far better control of his powers and since he's CrazySane, is a far more coherent schemer, meaning that Legion's best efforts to thwart him tend to repeatedly backfire. This is ultimately demonstrated when Legion overcomes his fear of Nate and faces him head on. He successfully traps Nate in his for about five minutes (though to him, it feels like months). Given that it's in a construct of the ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse, Nate is [[{{Understatement}} not pleased]] when he notices AGlitchInTheMatrix and promptly curbstomps Legion in five seconds flat, effortlessly [[GrandTheftMe bodyjacking]] him.

* ''VideoGame/XMenLegendsII'', voiced by Creator/QuintonFlynn (unlockable [[UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable PSP]] exclusive)

* GuestStarPartyMember: Nate's only video game appearance (as of 2020) in ''VideoGame/XMenLegends II'' sees him play this role. Unfortunately, he ''only'' appears in the [[UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable PSP]] version of the game.

* SuperWeight: Early on, mostly operates at a Type 3 level at first, owing to a lack of experience/PowerIncontinence/genetic degeneration causing his powers to switch off, spiking to Type 4 more and more as he gets better control of his powers. Grows into a Type 5 following the Shaman Reboot, then drops down to borderline Type 2 following his DePower. Following his FaceHeelTurn in 2018, he seems to have finally embraced his full potential as a Type 6, worfing the likes of Apocalypse and terrifying even Legion (for good reason, as he crushes the latter in about five seconds when they finally fight).

* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: To ComicBook/{{Legion||MarvelComics}}, as shown in the 2018 ''Uncanny X-Men'' run - while both aren't entirely sane and are immensely powerful {{Reality Warper}}s with a basis in PsychicPowers, Nate is implied to be the stronger. Not only that, but he has far better control of his powers and is a far more coherent schemer, meaning that Legion's best efforts to thwart him tend to repeatedly backfire. This is ultimately demonstrated when Legion overcomes his fear of Nate and faces him head on. He successfully traps Nate in his for about five minutes (though to him, it feels like months). Given that it's in a construct of the ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse, Nate is not pleased when he notices AGlitchInTheMatrix and promptly curbstomps Legion in five seconds flat, effortlessly bodyjacking him.

* ArchEnemy: Apocalypse by design. Thereafter, a case could be made for either Sugar Man or Holocaust, with Dark Beast being a close runner up. His return in 2018 pits him against Legion, the two being portrayed as different sides of the same coin, and in broadly the same situation, a comparison that Nate makes himself (they're both "grandchildren of the atom" with vast RealityWarper powers).

* CrazySane: By the time of his Shaman period, when a character [[YoureInsane told him that he was insane]], his [[InsultBackfire matter-of-fact response]] is "quite possibly."

* DespairEventHorizon: ''X-Men: Disassembled'' is all about the results of Nate finally crossing this, plunging into despair—typified by a conversation he has with Jean in the form of an old woman, where both agree that the world's messed up, but Jean retains optimism. Thus, he decides that he has to remake the world by force. Arguably, though, he doesn't tip over the edge until a minutes-that-feel-like-months stint in [[spoiler: Legion's mental construct of]] the Age of Apocalypse without his powers, where he sadly reflects that while he originally thought that 616 was heaven to the AOA's hell, he's come to believe that it's just a more subtle form of hell. This ultimately leads him to TakeAThirdOption and create the ''ComicBook/AgeOfXMan''.

** As of 2018, even ''ComicBook/{{Legion|MarvelComics}}'', one of the most powerful mutants ever, is scared of him. As it turns out, there is a ''very'' good reason for this: when the two finally go toe to toe in issue 8, [[spoiler: Nate wipes him out in five seconds flat]].
* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Possibly. It's notable that he's usually much more human when he's stripped of his powers for one reason or another, and generally kinder. Also, as Armour puts it in ''Uncanny X-Men'', deeply traumatised.

** As of his return in ''Uncanny X-Men'', he seems to be even stronger. He can communicate with everyone in the world without much discernible effort, and when Kitty questions the plausibility of this, Apocalypse flatly points out that he's got Magneto on a leash, turned off Kitty's powers with a word, and has Apocalypse himself in chains (who he's apparently just keeping around as a reminder of what he's working to prevent—though he does listen to him later on when he thinks he's got an interesting idea). It later turns out that, for whatever reason, his powers don't work in the Age of Apocalypse... then it's revealed that it's actually inside Legion's head, and once he figures that out, he effortlessly flattens Legion and body-jacks him. After that, it takes Jean, Psylocke, the Stepford Sisters, and Sage, along with a whopping great lightning bolt from Storm, to separate him from Legion—and even after ''that'', he calmly carries on a conversation inside his head with Jean while all those psychics, Storm, the rest of the X-Men, and Magneto hammer away at his defences to absolutely zero real effect. The final issue reveals that his powers are back and boosted because of a Life Seed, which gave him his powers back but left him still dying, leaving him confused as to what he was meant to do, and inspiring his actions throughout the arc. Then he created the ''ComicBook/AgeOfXMan''.

* LaserGuidedTykebomb: Nate was created by the Sinister of the Age of Apocalypse timeline, for the express purpose of killing Apocalypse, who Sinister currently served as a Horseman.

* PutOnABus: His greatest nemesis isn't Holocaust or Apocalypse, but Marvel's terminal inability to integrate high-powered characters into the setting on a regular basis. After his title's end (in which he was frequently depowered for the sake of drama), he was put on his first bus, one which he rode through most of the 2000s until 2009's ''ComicBook/DarkReign''. Following that title's end he found himself ComicBook/NormanOsborn's prisoner, and remained in custody for a few years until Cyclops finally got it in his head to rescue him. He then appeared in the then-latest incarnation of the ComicBook/NewMutants, but following that title's cancellation he found himself on his third bus. He was brought back after another few years to be the titular villain of the ''Age of X-Man'', but afterward got placed on Bus #4, which he is still on as of 2021 - though he's regularly mentioned in relation to the ''Age of X-Man'', which had rather extended consequences.

* RoguesGalleryTransplant: Aside from Morbius above, Purple Man (still a member of ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}'s rogues gallery at this point), Flag-Smasher (a ComicBook/CaptainAmerica villain who would later transplant to ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}), and Mysterio (like Morbius, also from ComicBook/SpiderMan's rogues) all make appearances to menace Nate. And while he didn't appear in Nate's title, perennial ''Spidey'' BigBad Norman Osborn also became a pivotal villain to Nate during the ''Dark Reign'' event (and would have gotten squashed like a bug by Nate had [[LuckyBastard luck not been on his side]] that day).

* TykeBomb: Was created with one purpose and one purpose only: to kill Apocalypse. He did his best to fulfill it too, with the end result being a barely breathing Apocalypse whom Magneto promptly ripped in half.

* CloningBlues: Played with.

** Amusingly, Nate is the ''source'' of this trope for another Summers family clone, [[EvilTwin Stryfe]]. Essentially a flawed clone of Cable (who is himself flawed compared to Nate due to Cable's techno-organic infection limiting his powers), Stryfe regards Nate's existence as the ideal form as something of a personal affront, and wastes no time capturing him and hooking him up to one of ComicBook/DoctorDoom's power siphons upon his return in order to steal Nate's power, which he believes to be rightfully his. To further heighten the irony, Stryfe's scheme is largely derailed by Madelyne Pryor, who is ''herself'' a clone and frequent sufferer of CloningBlues.

* FreudianExcuse: Not a villain (most of the time), but between [[CloningBlues Madelyne Pryor]], AOA!Jean, [[TeamMom 616!Jean]] and [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Queen Jean]], he could quite easily be the poster child for this trope. It would go a long way to explaining why the ''ComicBook/AgeOfXMan'' reality has a stern prohibition on interpersonal relationships.

* ParentalIncest: Although combined with FridgeLogic. Nate had a relationship with Madelyne Pryor who is a [[CloningBlues clone of Jean Grey]], an alternate version of the woman whose DNA he was created from, making her essentially his genetic mother. The relationship mercifully lost its romantic overtones once Nate found out who she was, at least on Nate's part... And it got worse when she was killed and impersonated by an evil megalomaniac Jean Grey from yet another alternate universe for months. She later brought Nate to her reality, where she became the evil queen of Earth, and introduced him to that reality's version of Nate Grey, and it is all but openly stated that she made him—her own biological son for all intents and purposes—be her slave, which, yes, includes ''sex slave''. Nate was later forced to kill her in self-defense.