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* SanitySlippage: Drunk on Chaos, Horus becomes more and more insane as time goes on. During ''The End and the Death'', Horus even begins to hallucinate that he's still fighting the Crusade and believes that he's speaking to Mersadie Oliton, Maloghurst, Tarik Torgaddon, Luc Sedirae, and Nero Vipus, all of whom are long dead. [[spoiler: The end of the first volume suggests that it was all an act. The second part adds fresh ambiguity with Horus continuing to believe Maloghurst and Mersadie are alive, as well as the disconnect between his assumption of transcendence (which turns out to not be happening to him at all) and the divergence between his perspective on fighting Sanguinius and what actually occurs.]]
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* SanitySlippage: SanitySlippage:
** Drunk on Chaos, Horus becomes more and more insane as time goes on. During ''The End and the Death'', Horus even begins to hallucinate that he's still fighting the Crusade and believes that he's speaking to Mersadie Oliton, Maloghurst, Tarik Torgaddon, Luc Sedirae, and Nero Vipus, all of whom are long dead. [[spoiler: The end of the first volume suggests that it was all an act. The second part adds fresh ambiguity with Horus continuing to believe Maloghurst and Mersadie are alive, as well as the disconnect between his assumption of transcendence (which turns out to not be happening to him at all) and the divergence between his perspective on fighting Sanguinius and what actually occurs.]]
** Drunk on Chaos, Horus becomes more and more insane as time goes on. During ''The End and the Death'', Horus even begins to hallucinate that he's still fighting the Crusade and believes that he's speaking to Mersadie Oliton, Maloghurst, Tarik Torgaddon, Luc Sedirae, and Nero Vipus, all of whom are long dead. [[spoiler: The end of the first volume suggests that it was all an act. The second part adds fresh ambiguity with Horus continuing to believe Maloghurst and Mersadie are alive, as well as the disconnect between his assumption of transcendence (which turns out to not be happening to him at all) and the divergence between his perspective on fighting Sanguinius and what actually occurs.]]
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** FauxAffablyEvil: ...And yet not so much when written by other authors. For example, in Dan Abnett's ''Know No Fear'', Lorgar has a much harder time when it comes to staying pleasant with Guilliman, and eventually turns out to be a much more enthusiastic villain when it came time to collect for his humiliation so long ago. Then again, it's ambiguous as to whether the Lorgar that appeared in the novel was actually him at all.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: He seems to genuinely care for Angron, and is probably the only Primarch that Angron considers to be anything resembling a friend. He is also, like most of his Space Marines, quite respectful and even affectionate towards Cyrene.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: EvenEvilHasLovedOnes:
** He seems to genuinely care for Angron, and is probably the only Primarch that Angron considers to be anything resembling a friend. He is also, like most of his Space Marines, quite respectful and even affectionate towards Cyrene.
** He seems to genuinely care for Angron, and is probably the only Primarch that Angron considers to be anything resembling a friend. He is also, like most of his Space Marines, quite respectful and even affectionate towards Cyrene.
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Lorgar considers himself a priest and intellectual more than a warrior, and the other Primarchs agree and considered him unworthy of being one of them. The only real friend he had among the Primarchs before the Heresy was Magnus, who shared his intellectual and philosophical pursuits. There was a lot of talk behind Lorgar's back of having him and his legion censured, and possibly even removed.
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: TheFriendNobodyLikes:
** Lorgar considers himself a priest and intellectual more than a warrior, and the other Primarchs agree and considered him unworthy of being one of them. The only real friend he had among the Primarchs before the Heresy was Magnus, who shared his intellectual and philosophical pursuits. There was a lot of talk behind Lorgar's back of having him and his legion censured, and possibly even removed.
** Lorgar considers himself a priest and intellectual more than a warrior, and the other Primarchs agree and considered him unworthy of being one of them. The only real friend he had among the Primarchs before the Heresy was Magnus, who shared his intellectual and philosophical pursuits. There was a lot of talk behind Lorgar's back of having him and his legion censured, and possibly even removed.
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* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: Really, really loves Daddy Emperor (as described in ''The First Heretic''), so much so that he worshipped him as a deity, convinced entire populations to accept the Emperor as a god, ignored the taunts of his brothers, tried to be as diplomatic as possible during disputes and wanted nothing more but to be a priest. Sadly, Daddy was an [[HollywoodAtheist atheist]] and didn't approve, sensibly telling Lorgar that he was a disappointment and everything he did (including destroying the Chaos cults in his home planet) was all for naught. It took the goading of his evil stepdad and mentor during his [[TragicVillain darkest hour]] to sucker him into worshipping the Chaos gods.
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* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: Really, really loves Daddy Emperor (as described in ''The First Heretic''), so much so that he worshipped him as a deity, convinced entire populations to accept the Emperor as a god, ignored the taunts of his brothers, tried to be as diplomatic as possible during disputes and wanted nothing more but to be a priest. Sadly, Daddy was an [[HollywoodAtheist atheist]] and didn't approve, sensibly telling Lorgar that he was a disappointment and everything he did (including destroying the Chaos cults in his home planet) was all for naught.naught despite telling him several times not to do so. It took the goading of his evil stepdad and mentor during his [[TragicVillain darkest hour]] to sucker him into worshipping the Chaos gods.
* NeverMyFault: Lorgar refuses to consider the idea that he did anything wrong worshipping the Emperor as a god, despite the Emperor telling him not to. When the Emperor eventually has enough and takes very extreme steps to reprimand him and his Legion for this and the poor performance during the crusade, Lorgar takes it as a betrayal instead of considering he was making a mistake.
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* TookALevelInBadass: Lorgar really comes into his own after turning to Chaos, much to the dismay of his fellow Primarchs who realise they no longer have him as their whipping boy.
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* TookALevelInBadass: TookALevelInBadass:
** Lorgar really comes into his own after turning to Chaos, much to the dismay of his fellow Primarchs who realise they no longer have him as their whippingboy.boy. Prior to joining Chaos, Lorgar was pretty much the weakest Primarch in combat, both battle skills and mindset. By the time it ends, he's a dangerous fighter who can fight stronger foes.
** Lorgar really comes into his own after turning to Chaos, much to the dismay of his fellow Primarchs who realise they no longer have him as their whipping
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* CantCatchUp: Found almost 200 years after the start of the Great Crusade, Alpharius soon found that he could never hope to match the victory tally of some of his more accomplished brothers like Horus, Guilliman, or the Lion. Given that the Great Crusade was running out of planets to conquer, it seemed unlikely the Alpha Legion would ever match the accomplishments of the other legions.
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* CantCatchUp: CantCatchUp:
** Found almost 200 years after the start of the Great Crusade, Alpharius soon found that he could never hope to match the victory tally of some of his more accomplished brothers like Horus, Guilliman, or the Lion. Given that the Great Crusade was running out of planets to conquer, it seemed unlikely the Alpha Legion would ever match the accomplishments of the other legions.
** Found almost 200 years after the start of the Great Crusade, Alpharius soon found that he could never hope to match the victory tally of some of his more accomplished brothers like Horus, Guilliman, or the Lion. Given that the Great Crusade was running out of planets to conquer, it seemed unlikely the Alpha Legion would ever match the accomplishments of the other legions.
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[[caption-width-right:350:I'm Fulgrim and I'm fabulous. [[labelnote:Click to see his Daemon Prince form]][[quoteright:250:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/deathdefiance.jpg]][[/labelnote]]]]
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[[caption-width-right:250:[[PerpetualFrowner Perturabo's default expression]]. [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Can't imagine why.]]]]
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[[caption-width-right:250:[[PerpetualFrowner Perturabo's default expression]]. [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Can't imagine why.expression.]]]]
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[[caption-width-right:274:[[Series/Batman1966 Nananananananana-nananananananana, KONRAAAD!]]]]
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