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* FatalFlaw: Corruption and incompetence. They really do ([[TokenEvilTeammate mostly]]) mean well, but they have a tendency to put people in positions of power who are either [[SmallNameBigEgo grossly unqualified]], OnlyInItForTheMoney, or both. The result is that although the NCR could be a force for good, no one is willing to take any pros at face value - at best, they're just a better option compared to the legion - and they're tied up in so much red tape that if the Courier doesn't help them, their entire operation grinds to a halt.

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* FatalFlaw: Corruption and incompetence. They really do ([[TokenEvilTeammate mostly]]) mean well, but they have a tendency to put people in positions of power who are either [[SmallNameBigEgo grossly unqualified]], OnlyInItForTheMoney, or both. The result is that although the NCR could be a force for good, no one is willing to take any pros at face value - at best, they're just a better option compared to the legion Legion - and they're tied up in so much red tape that if the Courier doesn't help them, their entire operation grinds to a halt.
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* FatalFlaw: Corruption and incompetence. They really do ([[TokenEvilTeammate mostly]]) mean well, but they have a tendency to put people in positions of power who are either [[SmallNameBigEgo grossly unqualified]], OnlyInItForTheMoney, or both.

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* FatalFlaw: Corruption and incompetence. They really do ([[TokenEvilTeammate mostly]]) mean well, but they have a tendency to put people in positions of power who are either [[SmallNameBigEgo grossly unqualified]], OnlyInItForTheMoney, or both. The result is that although the NCR could be a force for good, no one is willing to take any pros at face value - at best, they're just a better option compared to the legion - and they're tied up in so much red tape that if the Courier doesn't help them, their entire operation grinds to a halt.

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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: He is obstensibly part of the NCR, but everyone who meets him considers him an idiot. If the Courier kills him, no matter from stealth or right before everyone's eyes, nobody will become hostile over it and there will even be no Infamy gain with the NCR.

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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: He is obstensibly part of the NCR, but everyone who meets him considers him an idiot. If the Courier kills him, no matter from stealth or right before everyone's eyes, nobody will become hostile over it and there will even be no Infamy gain with the NCR. [[spoiler:The Legion has no more love for him either, presumably because they can see he is an incredibly obvious coward.]]



* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: Downnplayed. The Legion won't kill him themselves, but he's so scummy that if he switches sides to the Legion, none of the Legionaries care about him being (violently) murdered by the Courier.

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* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: Downnplayed. The Downplayed. [[spoiler:The Legion won't kill him themselves, but he's so scummy that if he switches sides to the Legion, none of the Legionaries care about him being (violently) murdered by the Courier. Courier.]]



* TurnCoat: If the player [[spoiler:uses the KillSat to wipe out the NCR soldiers]] and Caeser's Legion takes over, he'll [[spoiler:''kill'' Ignacio Rivas]] and join the Legion, just to save himself.

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* TurnCoat: If the player [[spoiler:uses the KillSat [[KillSat ARCHIMEDES I]] to wipe out the NCR soldiers]] soldiers and Caeser's Legion takes over, he'll [[spoiler:''kill'' ''kill'' Ignacio Rivas]] Rivas and join the Legion, just to save himself.]]



* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Intentionally averted; he's significantly weaker than his own bodyguards. He ''does'' have {{Elite Mook|s}}-level health (more than any other NCR leader), but without any armor and only a mediocre pistol he goes down pretty easily.



* RankScalesWithAsskicking: Intentionally averted; To sell how rather unimpressive he is, he's significantly weaker than his own bodyguards. He ''does'' have {{Elite Mook|s}}-level health (more than any other NCR leader), but without any armor and only a mediocre pistol he goes down pretty easily, especially since he's only encountered in the endgame.



[[folder:Quartermaster Carl Mayes]]
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->''"Not good. If we don't get more supplies, we're going to have to start using dirt for food and sticks and rocks for weapons"''

Carl Mayes is the quartermaster at Camp Forlorn Hope in 2281, in charge of procurement and distribution of supplies. Or at least he would, if he had any, but by the time you find him, the camp's so strapped for supplies, he offers to pay you for anything you can spare and as revealed later on, he has had to send a few troops to other NCR bases, to see if they can spare anything. If you volunteer to help out around camp, you can help mend this problem a little. He'll also reward you with a small amount of caps for turning in any NCR dog tags you find.
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Friend Nobody Likes fits better.


* AssholeVictim: May be invoked during gameplay. If the Courier kills him, no matter from stealth or right before everyone's eyes, nobody will become hostile over it and there will even be no Infamy gain with the NCR.


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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: He is obstensibly part of the NCR, but everyone who meets him considers him an idiot. If the Courier kills him, no matter from stealth or right before everyone's eyes, nobody will become hostile over it and there will even be no Infamy gain with the NCR.
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* StealthPun[=/=]PunnyName: ''Very'' subtly done, especially given the spelling of his name (as opposed to the more phonetic Shu). He is referred to in dialogue simply as Colonel Hsu and the HUD gives his full name, Col. James Hsu; only through the Power of FridgeBrilliance does one notice that in a casual setting his name could be ''Jim'' Hsu...

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* StealthPun[=/=]PunnyName: StealthPun: ''Very'' subtly done, especially given the spelling of his name (as opposed to the more phonetic Shu). He is referred to in dialogue simply as Colonel Hsu and the HUD gives his full name, Col. James Hsu; only through the Power of FridgeBrilliance some thinking does one notice that in a casual setting his name could be ''Jim'' Hsu...
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Spelling/grammar fix(es). 'Alumni' is the plural, not the singular; also, 'former alumnus' would be a tautology — an alumnus, by definition, is a graduate, a former member.


* BadassCreed: ''The last thing you never see.'' Boone himself (a former alumni) comments [[{{Understatement}} "It's pretty accurate, and so were we."]]

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* BadassCreed: ''The last thing you never see.'' Boone himself (a former alumni) (an alumnus) comments [[{{Understatement}} "It's pretty accurate, and so were we."]]
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: In the case of the Great Khans. A perfect example is asking a Great Khan-turned-NCR sniper what he thinks of Bitter Springs. [[spoiler:Apparently, they deserved it.]]



* KickTheSonOfABitch: Still, some of her targets really deserved what they get.

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* TheExtremistWasRight: Compared to back when Tandi was president, the NCR is much more militaristic and aggressive. But that is the reason why they are able to have the upper hand against the Brotherhood and the Legion. Also, some of their actions such as heavy taxation and militaristic culture might not be nice, but they do have good reasons for them. [[spoiler:And they do have one of the best endings for a good karma character.]]

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Compared to back when Tandi was president, the NCR is much more militaristic and aggressive. But that is the reason why they are able to have the upper hand against the Brotherhood and the Legion. Also, some of their actions such as heavy taxation and militaristic culture might not be nice, but they do have good reasons for them. [[spoiler:And they do have one of the best endings for a good karma character.]]



* [[spoiler:HiredToHuntYourself: He's put in charge of the investigation into the Legion spy at Camp [=McCarran=], who is Curtis himself]].

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* [[spoiler:HiredToHuntYourself: He's HiredToHuntYourself: [[spoiler:He's put in charge of the investigation into the Legion spy at Camp [=McCarran=], who is Curtis himself]].



* [[spoiler:TheMole: Sent to New Vegas four years before the start of the NCR-Legion War as a spy for Caesar's Legion, Curtis used his post and a manufactured sense of trust from Colonel Hsu to sabotage NCR operations and orchestrate many casualties by reporting plans and troop movements to the Legion over radio, all without any suspicion to his position to the point Hsu unknowingly tasked him with investigating his own espionage.]]

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* [[spoiler:TheMole: Sent TheMole: [[spoiler:Sent to New Vegas four years before the start of the NCR-Legion War as a spy for Caesar's Legion, Curtis used his post and a manufactured sense of trust from Colonel Hsu to sabotage NCR operations and orchestrate many casualties by reporting plans and troop movements to the Legion over radio, all without any suspicion to his position to the point Hsu unknowingly tasked him with investigating his own espionage.]]

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* BeingGoodSucks: Some DummiedOut post-game content reveals that Col. Moore is picked over him for a promotion in the NCR ending due to, depending on how one interprets what would have been said, her aggressive kill-'em-all tactics or Hsu being far less willing to take credit for things being better than what the brass thought it would be. Of course, it is DummiedOut, so the canonicity of this remains uncertain.
-->'''Moore''': The brass was particularly surprised by the lack of domestic threats in the area. They were prepared to spend months pacifying known troublemakers. When they found those threats absent, they turned to the man in charge of the area, but Hsu being Hsu, he denied having anything to do with it. So now the men have to answer to Brigadier General Moore, and both they and I have you to thank for it.
** During the game you hear opinions that he would likely be the best person to be leading the NCR military in the region over General Oliver, but he is an honorable and professional military man to the point where he does not engage in playing politics behind the scenes that would help get him to that position.

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* BeingGoodSucks: Some DummiedOut post-game content reveals that Col. Moore is picked over him for a promotion in the NCR ending due to, depending on how one interprets what would have been said, her aggressive kill-'em-all tactics or Hsu being far less willing to take credit for things being better than what the brass thought it would be. Of course, it is DummiedOut, so the canonicity of this remains uncertain.
-->'''Moore''': The brass was particularly surprised by the lack of domestic threats in the area. They were prepared to spend months pacifying known troublemakers. When they found those threats absent, they turned to the man in charge of the area, but Hsu being Hsu, he denied having anything to do with it. So now the men have to answer to Brigadier General Moore, and both they and I have you to thank for it.
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During the game you hear opinions that he would likely be the best person to be leading the NCR military in the region over General Oliver, but he is an honorable and professional military man to the point where he does not engage in playing politics behind the scenes that would help get him to that position.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Unlike other NCR authority figures.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Unlike other NCR authority figures.figures, he tries to lead well and without dealing in the back end politics that are causing problems for the NCR. He's extremely well liked by most troopers in the NCR because of that.

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* ImprobableAimingSkills: A bullet through the eye from 800 yards, indeed. What makes it more amazing is the fact that only Boone and Sterling have a scope on their rifles.
** A case of TruthInTelevision and RealityIsUnrealistic if ever there were one. Some of the highest-rated snipers in history have used non-scoped rifles because the glint of light off the scope can reveal their location. If a rifle's barrel is in perfect condition, it's long enough, and the shooter is firing from a decent elevation with good stability on the weapon, though, a scope isn't really necessary.

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* ImprobableAimingSkills: A bullet through the eye from 800 yards, indeed. What makes it more amazing is the fact that only Boone and Sterling have a scope on their rifles.
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rifles. Also a case of TruthInTelevision and RealityIsUnrealistic if ever there were one. Some TruthInTelevision; some of the highest-rated snipers in history have used non-scoped rifles because the glint of light off the scope can reveal their location. If a rifle's barrel is in perfect condition, it's long enough, and the shooter is firing from a decent elevation with good stability on the weapon, though, a scope isn't really necessary.
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** His photo is seen on an altar celebrating the NCR in the TV series, suggesting that at least to some he remains an icon of the Republic.
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* GuideDangIt: Due to being in a very sectioned place, which you only arrive if you decorate to the last place of the Mojave, most likely that you only find his existence by a guide.

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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:Considering that the TV series states that the capital of Shady Sands was nuked at some point after 2277, assuming he survived the events of New Vegas Kimball was likely one of the casualties considering that Moldaver was able to rally the remnants of the NCR under her banner]].

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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:Considering that the TV series states that the capital of Shady Sands was nuked at some point after 2277, assuming [[spoiler:Assuming he survived the events of New Vegas Kimball was likely one of Vegas, it's unclear if he survived the casualties considering that Moldaver was able to rally nuking of Shady Sands in the remnants of the NCR under her banner]].TV series]].

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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:Considering that the TV series states that the capital of Shady Sands was nuked at some point after 2277, it's implied that Kimball was among the casualties]].

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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:Considering that the TV series states that the capital of Shady Sands was nuked at some point after 2277, it's implied that assuming he survived the events of New Vegas Kimball was among likely one of the casualties]].casualties considering that Moldaver was able to rally the remnants of the NCR under her banner]].
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->See [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCompanions Companions]].

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->See [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCompanions [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCourierAndCompanions Courier and Companions]].
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[[Characters/FalloutNewVegasTheCourier The Courier]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCompanions Companions]] | '''New California Republic''' | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCaesarsLegion Caesar's Legion]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasTheStrip The Strip]] ([[Characters/FalloutNewVegasRobertEdwinHouse Robert Edwin House]]) | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasSettlements Settlements]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasOtherFactions Other Factions]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasOtherCharacters Other Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasDeadMoney Dead Money Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasHonestHearts Honest Hearts Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasOldWorldBlues Old World Blues Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasLonesomeRoad Lonesome Road Characters]]-]]]]]

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[[Characters/FalloutNewVegasTheCourier The Courier]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCompanions [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCourierAndCompanions Courier and Companions]] | '''New California Republic''' | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasCaesarsLegion Caesar's Legion]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasTheStrip The Strip]] ([[Characters/FalloutNewVegasRobertEdwinHouse Robert Edwin House]]) | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasSettlements Settlements]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasOtherFactions Other Factions]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasOtherCharacters Other Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasDeadMoney Dead Money Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasHonestHearts Honest Hearts Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasOldWorldBlues Old World Blues Characters]] | [[Characters/FalloutNewVegasLonesomeRoad Lonesome Road Characters]]-]]]]]
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: In-Universe. People are split on whether he is a good president, or whether his campaign in the Mojave and the way he leads the Republic is corrupt and self-serving.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: In-Universe. People are split on whether he is a good president, or whether his campaign in the Mojave and the way he leads the Republic is corrupt and self-serving. One of the reasons Mr House tries to ensure his assassination fails is because him dying would make him a martyr and rally the NCR to focus more on the Mojave, while letting him live will make him unpopular should the NCR lose the Hoover Dam.
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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:Considering that the TV series states that the capital of Shady Sands was nuked at some point after 2277, it's implied that Kimball was among the casualties]].

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